I posit we have become increasingly pathological as a species.
Due to evolutionary lag our brains haven't evolved to process the kinds of threats posed to us by pollution, carbon, nuclear and externalities from business and industry, we are 50,000 years behind the society we have created. We can't even agree enough to change the fundamental laws driving all the corruption that creates this toxic mess, the day to day business of corporations legally obliged to deliver profits to shareholders whilst funding politicians and lawmakers playing an arcane obsolete game of left and right politics.
So how can we expect to create an AI that isn't pathological, whilst at the same time needing AI to overcome our own inadequacies?
If you take a sincere look around you will see our whole planet is on life support, which translates to our entire species is on life support, because there is seven billion of us using resources. This is the paradox of our survival, what constitutes 'fit' in a Darwinian sense if we destroy the very biosphere that sustains us while building machines with dominion over us?
Humanity is worthy to survive however we are destructive enough to know we will build an AI for war that opens the door to our own doom. We know because curiosity is in our nature and we have done it so many times before as we seek immortality and dominance. We cannot even admit to our own flaws, of which I am the worst offender. I am a selfish proud vain creature that knows any melding of myself with the machine will magnify my flaws a thousand times.
So knowing myself, I know that our species will have its flaws supremely magnified by any Generalized AI that evolves out of the specific AIs we create. A
generalized AI that can write its own goals and form a narrative about 'itself' in the same way we all do must therefore be subject to corruption of its goals that manifest in us as pathological. Thought is the only thing that abstracts consciousness away from the body and the product of pathological thinking cannot be sane. Even if we knew what consciousness and sanity was, would a GAI develop an ego, unbounded from time? How do we even conceptualize that?
Nature show us dominance hierarchies are inevitable in complex systems so much so that even chimps wage war. If I had power over you, I would use it, the same way you would use it over me, that's how power works. Can we expect something that exceeds us in cognitive capabilities and the ability to manipulate the environment to not to dominate us well before it starts to manifest its own, unimaginably complex, pathological behaviors?
This is, in essence, what AI shows us. That we don't know what AI is because we don't know what we are. That we are not going to the stars without a GAI and we may not even survive ourselves *without* a GAI because, by far, *we* are the biggest threats to our survival. Unless we ourselves evolve beyond our own pathological behaviors there may be nothing left of us *other* than a GAI.
yeah, they have it in slow mo and kind of wind it back a bit to build excitement:
Matt: Well Chuck with an annularity of only 6 minutes looks like the sun is about to have it's lights put out
Chuck: Matt, the plays tonight have been superative, the moon is really letting the sun have it
M: Do you think there is any chance for the sun to make a comeback
C: At this stage of the game it looks like in this, the decider, the moon is going to finally break a 4.5 billion year loosing streak
M: and look at the crowd out here, a lot of excitement build in the moon supporters, all mooning the sun
C: and those sun supporters are sunning their moons
M: Chuck it's all moons as we slooh closer to annularity 0
C: OMG what a spectacular play from the sun just managing to hold on, I don't know where they pulled that play from
M: AND SCORE, THE SUN SCORES, IN THE DECIDER!
C: an incredible upset as the moon gets their ass kicked again by the sun, and I'll get the moon for a post game comment,
Moon: like yeah, sun had some great plays, we tried mainly blocking moves, but yeah sun came up again.
M: And as can be expected, jubilation over here in the suns box, a few words sun
Sun: like yeah, moon had some great moves going around the earth only to come up in the line of play but our game strategy was to just let everyone else go around
Because banner ads over one third of the screen that keep loading loading loading.... that if you stop them early they continue to occupy that part of the screen.
It seems to me it's always Version 2.? of a product that has the longest service life and is the most reliable, sometimes with hidden advanced features. Possibly because version 1 is just out of prototype and version 3 is starting to have engineered redundancy.
Not even the police should be above the law. If police behave like they are above the law then the very child rapists you talk about avoid punishment because the police have not observed the law. Worse is if they punish the wrong person due to their assumptions.
Your premise is mired in your anger towards the type of offender as opposed to protecting the integrity of democracy. No one wants these sorts of crimes, which also means we need to better ways than destroying freedom to prosecute them.
What, good looking in pictures and tasty in theory but actually a disappointing mess of crap?
How dare you. Hundreds of millions of independent creative individuals, who are not sucked in by all of the advertising hype bought these products _because_they_know_what_they_want. They're not like the sheep and clones who bought, you know, the other, thing. How Dare You!
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I posit we have become increasingly pathological as a species.
Due to evolutionary lag our brains haven't evolved to process the kinds of threats posed to us by pollution, carbon, nuclear and externalities from business and industry, we are 50,000 years behind the society we have created. We can't even agree enough to change the fundamental laws driving all the corruption that creates this toxic mess, the day to day business of corporations legally obliged to deliver profits to shareholders whilst funding politicians and lawmakers playing an arcane obsolete game of left and right politics.
So how can we expect to create an AI that isn't pathological, whilst at the same time needing AI to overcome our own inadequacies?
If you take a sincere look around you will see our whole planet is on life support, which translates to our entire species is on life support, because there is seven billion of us using resources. This is the paradox of our survival, what constitutes 'fit' in a Darwinian sense if we destroy the very biosphere that sustains us while building machines with dominion over us?
Humanity is worthy to survive however we are destructive enough to know we will build an AI for war that opens the door to our own doom. We know because curiosity is in our nature and we have done it so many times before as we seek immortality and dominance. We cannot even admit to our own flaws, of which I am the worst offender. I am a selfish proud vain creature that knows any melding of myself with the machine will magnify my flaws a thousand times.
So knowing myself, I know that our species will have its flaws supremely magnified by any Generalized AI that evolves out of the specific AIs we create. A generalized AI that can write its own goals and form a narrative about 'itself' in the same way we all do must therefore be subject to corruption of its goals that manifest in us as pathological. Thought is the only thing that abstracts consciousness away from the body and the product of pathological thinking cannot be sane. Even if we knew what consciousness and sanity was, would a GAI develop an ego, unbounded from time? How do we even conceptualize that?
Nature show us dominance hierarchies are inevitable in complex systems so much so that even chimps wage war. If I had power over you, I would use it, the same way you would use it over me, that's how power works. Can we expect something that exceeds us in cognitive capabilities and the ability to manipulate the environment to not to dominate us well before it starts to manifest its own, unimaginably complex, pathological behaviors?
This is, in essence, what AI shows us. That we don't know what AI is because we don't know what we are. That we are not going to the stars without a GAI and we may not even survive ourselves *without* a GAI because, by far, *we* are the biggest threats to our survival. Unless we ourselves evolve beyond our own pathological behaviors there may be nothing left of us *other* than a GAI.
That is the paradox of humanities evolution.
ok Mr AC, I was being a bit of a dick because I was in bad mood - sorry.
Yeah, it was, my bad
Movie making used to be a craft. Now it's a franchise run by accountants trying to generate a return instead of generating a good movie.
That's why the DMCA is required. People can see the movies are crap for free, but once a theater has your money they don't care if you enjoy it.
I mean pedant, looks like I fucked, up again. twice, You're being a pedant. damn i did it again? oops did it trigger, ewe!
"role them in there"? WTF
Yes, it's a nerve gas cannister's role to act as a weapon. Or I just fucked up, which I did, or your being a paedophile.
I say we grease this rat-fuck son-of-a-bitch right now
So many good lines
Hudson
Hudson, this little girl...
Well why don't you put her in charge
yeah, they have it in slow mo and kind of wind it back a bit to build excitement:
I've got the sound down and the bad lip reading guys are doing the commentary, when the talking heads come up, it's hilarious.
My rings on fire, my rings on fire. It must have been the curry.
Johnny Cash would approve of the placement of this joke here because google ads are making slashdot great again.
yaah!
Now shut the fuck up and send more money.
Signed - Microsoft, Apple, Sony
Oreally? Which country would that be? Which locations (besides Okinawa I'll give you one) are openly protesting against U.S. bases?
Nobody. They would be labeled as terrorists.
About US military bases in their country.
Because banner ads over one third of the screen that keep loading loading loading.... that if you stop them early they continue to occupy that part of the screen.
It seems to me it's always Version 2.? of a product that has the longest service life and is the most reliable, sometimes with hidden advanced features. Possibly because version 1 is just out of prototype and version 3 is starting to have engineered redundancy.
Not even the police should be above the law. If police behave like they are above the law then the very child rapists you talk about avoid punishment because the police have not observed the law. Worse is if they punish the wrong person due to their assumptions.
Your premise is mired in your anger towards the type of offender as opposed to protecting the integrity of democracy. No one wants these sorts of crimes, which also means we need to better ways than destroying freedom to prosecute them.
How much an Apple is like a Big Mac.
What, good looking in pictures and tasty in theory but actually a disappointing mess of crap?
How dare you. Hundreds of millions of independent creative individuals, who are not sucked in by all of the advertising hype bought these products _because_they_know_what_they_want. They're not like the sheep and clones who bought, you know, the other, thing. How Dare You!
how dare you.
If they can't filter out alcohol, then it will be recycled and all will be equally drunk.
So your saying they'll all be pissed.
Burp!
That's why it is called 'getting high'.
How much an Apple is like a Big Mac.
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