I can get that on my 1.1 Ghz celeron with 14" screen, 20GB HD, and 256MB ram if I use it to browse the web while watching tv. Browsing the web doesn't access the harddrive too much and occationally I find something interesting on the tube and let the screen blank out for a few minutes. But what surprised me about this toshiba laptop was the cyberblade XP chipset. I guess this chipset is extremely low power. Though it barely has any linux support at all, Trident didn't want to release info to the X guys. But its supposed to have a GPU and be a good cheap gaming system, if they ever get DRI to work under Linux.
I'll deal with this laptop until they come out with a webpad that can last at least 8 hours normal-heavy use.
I wonder if the thief thought it was worth it. Personally I would rather take a baseball bat to the thief or something that would rough them up pretty bad, but avoid killing them over property or money. But we kill terrorists. So I can see how thieves or software pirates can be stereotyped into that category.
Icecast allows you to stream a high quality ogg compressed stereo feed anywhere, limitted to your bandwidth. If both ends setup icecast servers and started talking to eachother, there may be a slight delay, but I bet you'd be able to communicate clearly. However this technology hasn't been brought to the home user yet. There are apis to ogg libraries for encoding/decoding stuff. It hasn't been done because there isn't much need for it today. The bandwidth is still lacking on the other end of the connection. Geeks can generally obtain broadband, but most home users wouldn't even know where to look for it.
A ubiqutious free wireless WAN is nothing more than a pipe dream...A ubiquitous free wireless LAN in a year or two is a crack induced hallucination.
802.11b ranges up to 30 or 50 meters, I think, using off the shelf hardware. 802.11a is supposed to be able to connect line of sight up to 4 or 5 miles(correction, 802.11b can range up to at least 10 miles with the proper potatoe chip can antenna), possibly farther with the right antenna. Bandwidth ranges from ~4Mbps for b to ~40Mbps for a, on average. This technology is available this year. Next year we'll probably break the 100Mbps mark and if UWB gets approved we could be looking at gigabit speeds in the next few years.
Still don't believe me?
In the summer of 2001, Rob Flickenger, a network administrator, published plans for converting a used Pringles container into a directional antenna costing $5 a piece with a 10 mile range. From there, free 802.11 networks shared plans for broadcasting with coffee, soup, pasta -- even 40-ounce beef stew 'cantennas.'
Interesting. You think they still use analog lines? Last I heard everything was digital except maybe the last mile. But at any rate you can't get better than 56k over your analog line because its not true analog. True analog has infinite resolution and can transmit infinite amounts of data, limitted by your hardware. Phone line can not. Though I believe Cisco has developed the ability to run ~10Mbps over standard lines. But anyway my point is your phone line is not secure. Its tapped by the government ALL the time without warrants. Read the PATRIOT act, I'm sure they expanded their ability to spy on you with the legislation they passed this year to fight terrorists. You're not a terrorist are you? Good. Then if you want even a remotely secure connection you should use the net. You probably will have more bandwidth available over the net than your phone line in a year or two anyway. Imagine talking to 10 or 20 people at once in a group conversation or video conferencing these people. This technology and bandwidth will be here in less than 5 years. Will you be ready? I will.
This brings a certain moto to mind: "First they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win." I think we're in the third phase now, getting close to starting phase 4. Total Global Domination. Muahahahahaha!!!
As long as something is free, people won't pay for it.
And that's the problem. Most Americans are criminals. Instead of treating geeks like criminals the RIAA needs to treat dumb Americans like criminals, too. They're no excuse for ignorance of the law. Anyone caught with illegally copied mp3s should be punished to the maximum extent of the law. They're costing our precious music and movie industries billions of hard earned dollars. I say throw these criminals in prison for a year or two and see how they feel about their crimes against humanity.
Well, if voice quality is what concerns you I'm amazed you weren't looking into VoIP solutions a long time ago. Regular phone lines use like 16kbps connections, possibly up to 64kbps for a digital line designed for ISDN. They're limited to half duplex and crappy mics and speakers. For quality you would want a full duplex sound card, quality mic/headset and/or speakers. You would want to find a solution that utilized something like ogg or mp3 and probably encrypt your communications. You'll only find something like that for free on Linux. Anything else will want to charge you for bandwidth that isn't theirs or monthly fees for use, etc. All because they're replacing the phone. How dumb. They should be selling their software for $50 like everybody else. But don't worry, GNU will replace all of them in a couple years.
The truth is Voice over IP isn't hard as long as both ends are using IP. You only have a problem when one end is using a phone line and the other is using IP. Making VoIP connect to the phone system like trying to make your pci cards fit into an old isa bus. It just isn't worth the effort. Let's just replace the phone system. Why? Because in a year or two we'll have wireless lans much faster than our dial-up net connections for free, without wires! I think its time we cut off the legacy BS and fat.
3 appeals courts upheld it? That's like saying guns kill people. Its not the courts that uphold it, its the judges or juries. I think it would be important for us to know who was on the jury or who was the judge that upheld these types of laws and what their reasoning was. We need to watch out for these guys because they have an amazing amount of power attached to every decision they make.
This is known as Capitalism, my friend. It's a beautiful thing.
Unless you wake to get ready for work and look in the mirror to find a 60 year old slave staring back at you. You do your daily routine yet again, thinking about the next paycheck and your possible retirement, if you live that long. It can all be automated folks, but captialism will never pay for your share when it finally is automated, it'll just replace you. Money doesn't grow on trees. My main problems with capitalism is the greed and lack of love, compassion, caring, whatever. If capitalism could ever provide free food, shelter and education for everyone I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as I see it right now I'm paying for a lot for education I'm not getting. The fast food is aweful, and housing isn't much better. It certainly isn't paradise, even for the rich.
However, you're right, in this case it could work marvelously.:)
I say let the free market stand. If people prefer to buy used books, or buy a book, read it once and resell it. Then they should be allowed to do that as efficiently as possible. Fuck the authors and publishers. They're asking for us to support them then going behind our backs to remove services that help us, the consumer. If you want to treat me like a consumer then deal with the consequences. If you want to be my friend and give me your content I'll think about being your friend and helping you out where I can. Eventually enough people will get a clue and form a group to take care of eachother and let the rest fend for themselves in this cold loveless capitalism... oh wait, they already did.
Standard APM on Linux on my toshiba laptop (designed for Windows XP and ACPI) works in less than 12 seconds. Its probably more like 5, even with 8 workspaces running galeon, openoffice, the gimp, anjuta, and various terms and gnome apps. I have to shutdown gkrellm, xmms, gmix and rmmod trident because APM kills the sound card. And at first I couldn't find an accelerated video driver, because Trident never made one for Linux and never gave the XF86 guys documentation on their Cyberblade XP chipset. But they got that worked out now, about a month after I bought it I found an accelerated driver online (even without acceleration it was usable, portable 20GB / 1.1Ghz server w/ simple VESA frame buffer). Now it works great! And I bet when I get around to compiling a kernel of my own I'll get ACPI to work and suspend and resume maybe as fast as OSX on a G4. Now that's fast! Before you open the G4 completely its already reloaded, ready and waiting for you. But I'll stick with Linux.:)
I'm a pro sys admin. I have a usb device. Its a camera. I plug it in, download images and unplug it. It works great. What do I need 10 usb ports for again? What great usb hardware exists? I don't even like using my wireless keyboards on usb, they just work better on PS/2. And if USB 2.0 is so great why didn't Abit include 10 USB 2.0 ports? Isn't it backward compatible with USB 1.x?
I agree. Being one of those people that needs a serial port to communicate to routers and switches and servers and stuff I like my systems complete. If anything they should be expanding the number of serial ports and offering a custom connection similar to USB that splits into 4 or 8 or 16 ports. You can never have enough serial ports, even if you don't use them someone else can. But what really gets me is how they preach about cutting out the old legacy stuff and then offer both USB 1.x and 2.0. Why not just offer me 8 USB 2.0 ports? Who needs 1.x? And isn't 2.x backward compatible? This looks like its all marketting hype with no real technical thought being put behind it. I hope Abit can stick around a little while longer. I loved their overclockability and I have an older athlon motherboard that's excellent! But this new stuff makes me worry about that company. Heh, integrated a/v, when will they ever learn?
At SGI there were several internal streaming radio stations run by employees playing eveyone's favorite music plus requests. Many many years before I even knew about the RIAA or copyright law. That was back when mp3s were new and cool, now they just suck, like everything else.
But you can display any copyrighted movie to a class of kids without owning a license. Its legal even if you just rent the movie. How is this different?
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That's all good and dandy, but what happens when Tivo goes bankrupt?
Try RedHat 7.2 or 7.3. Yes they were insecure in the past, but so was my commodore 64. In my opinion if your systems aren't secure there isn't anything wrong with your systems, there's something wrong with you.
I disagree, Linux's cleaverness is in the license. Without the GPL Linux would be nowhere today, and the Hurd would be where Linux is currently. The license allows everyone around the world to collaborate on a project without fear that some corp is going to steal their work. I'm just affraid that when the FUD doesn't hold back the onslaught of GPLed code and commercial companies can no longer compete or turn a profit that governments will step in to make the world safe for children, and make Linux or GPLed software illegal. Imagine what the effect of years of developement on Linux and open media will do to the IP holders. I'd guess that they'd lose a lot of cash, and they probably wouldn't like that very much. Do you think they'll let that happen?
I believe you can find the way out of most unix systems by running the 'exit' command. But if that doesn't work you may also try 'shutdown', 'init 0', or 'halt'.
Okay, so maybe you weren't talking about me. I am part of the FSF/GNU/Linux movement by supporting and recommending business solutions (not a developer). But you're right, I pay for software, so I must not be in the subculture you mentioned. I'd guess that just about everyone older than 20 who uses linux has paid for at least one piece of software in their life. Now I'm confused, too. Can you tell me more about this subculture you were talking about? I would have been offended if someone said that people like me think all software must be free and refuse to ever pay for it, because that simply isn't true. Perhaps there are other Linux advocates that are more extreme?
By that logic Microsoft should be going out of business soon. Why would anyone pay for commercial software if a free alternative exists? People will pay for free software, just not the geeks who work on it all the time. And people will continue to pay for commercial software because it looks easy on TV. Most people don't go out of their way to save money anymore, or at least that's my opinion.
There is an entire subculture that finds the notion of paying for software offensive
No, but I find your comments offensive. I am part of that subculture. And I would guess you are, too, posting on this site. I pay for a lot of software. Mostly games, but I've also paid for transgaming's winex, codeweavers wine, GNU, Redhat, Slackware, Mandrake, SuSE, and all of Loki's software. And that doesn't even include the proprietary software that I'm required by law to pay for, if I want to use it. I pay for a TON of software, well over $2000 a year. How much would you have me pay to get developement tools to write my own code?
I'm offended by people like you who think that software inherently has value. Software has as much value as music or your favorite movie. The value in software is its functionality and its source code, not the binary data stored on the small reflected plastic disc in the box on the store shelf. In the future I would appreciate it if you didn't stereotype people me anymore.
Oh, and if I did write sofware I wouldn't expect to get paid for it. I'd write it because I wanted to write it, not for money. Why do you write code or play music or dance? Its all the same thing, its all a very personal part of you, your creativity, worth a lot more than money. You'd probably let the record company keep the copyright to your song and expect me to pay for it, reguardless of how it sounds. I'd just give it away. And it makes me feel happy when I find other people like myself who share their music and software with me in the same way. It really doesn't cost that much, you're just short sited.
It is also hard to try and convince someone to go with something new, when "everyone else" uses mp3s!
That statement is wonderful. That is exactly why I use ogg. I rarely follow the trends anymore. I listen to my music on studio monitors and in my opinion ogg is far superior.
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I can get that on my 1.1 Ghz celeron with 14" screen, 20GB HD, and 256MB ram if I use it to browse the web while watching tv. Browsing the web doesn't access the harddrive too much and occationally I find something interesting on the tube and let the screen blank out for a few minutes. But what surprised me about this toshiba laptop was the cyberblade XP chipset. I guess this chipset is extremely low power. Though it barely has any linux support at all, Trident didn't want to release info to the X guys. But its supposed to have a GPU and be a good cheap gaming system, if they ever get DRI to work under Linux.
I'll deal with this laptop until they come out with a webpad that can last at least 8 hours normal-heavy use.
I wonder if the thief thought it was worth it. Personally I would rather take a baseball bat to the thief or something that would rough them up pretty bad, but avoid killing them over property or money. But we kill terrorists. So I can see how thieves or software pirates can be stereotyped into that category.
Icecast allows you to stream a high quality ogg compressed stereo feed anywhere, limitted to your bandwidth. If both ends setup icecast servers and started talking to eachother, there may be a slight delay, but I bet you'd be able to communicate clearly. However this technology hasn't been brought to the home user yet. There are apis to ogg libraries for encoding/decoding stuff. It hasn't been done because there isn't much need for it today. The bandwidth is still lacking on the other end of the connection. Geeks can generally obtain broadband, but most home users wouldn't even know where to look for it.
A ubiqutious free wireless WAN is nothing more than a pipe dream...A ubiquitous free wireless LAN in a year or two is a crack induced hallucination.
802.11b ranges up to 30 or 50 meters, I think, using off the shelf hardware. 802.11a is supposed to be able to connect line of sight up to 4 or 5 miles(correction, 802.11b can range up to at least 10 miles with the proper potatoe chip can antenna), possibly farther with the right antenna. Bandwidth ranges from ~4Mbps for b to ~40Mbps for a, on average. This technology is available this year. Next year we'll probably break the 100Mbps mark and if UWB gets approved we could be looking at gigabit speeds in the next few years.
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Still don't believe me? Good, I'm going to stop wasting my time with you. Go back to your dial-up.
Interesting. You think they still use analog lines? Last I heard everything was digital except maybe the last mile. But at any rate you can't get better than 56k over your analog line because its not true analog. True analog has infinite resolution and can transmit infinite amounts of data, limitted by your hardware. Phone line can not. Though I believe Cisco has developed the ability to run ~10Mbps over standard lines. But anyway my point is your phone line is not secure. Its tapped by the government ALL the time without warrants. Read the PATRIOT act, I'm sure they expanded their ability to spy on you with the legislation they passed this year to fight terrorists. You're not a terrorist are you? Good. Then if you want even a remotely secure connection you should use the net. You probably will have more bandwidth available over the net than your phone line in a year or two anyway. Imagine talking to 10 or 20 people at once in a group conversation or video conferencing these people. This technology and bandwidth will be here in less than 5 years. Will you be ready? I will.
That's easy, just burn your ogg files onto a data CD. ;)
This brings a certain moto to mind: "First they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win." I think we're in the third phase now, getting close to starting phase 4. Total Global Domination. Muahahahahaha!!!
Oh, wait, I'm not evil.
As long as something is free, people won't pay for it.
And that's the problem. Most Americans are criminals. Instead of treating geeks like criminals the RIAA needs to treat dumb Americans like criminals, too. They're no excuse for ignorance of the law. Anyone caught with illegally copied mp3s should be punished to the maximum extent of the law. They're costing our precious music and movie industries billions of hard earned dollars. I say throw these criminals in prison for a year or two and see how they feel about their crimes against humanity.
Well, if voice quality is what concerns you I'm amazed you weren't looking into VoIP solutions a long time ago. Regular phone lines use like 16kbps connections, possibly up to 64kbps for a digital line designed for ISDN. They're limited to half duplex and crappy mics and speakers. For quality you would want a full duplex sound card, quality mic/headset and/or speakers. You would want to find a solution that utilized something like ogg or mp3 and probably encrypt your communications. You'll only find something like that for free on Linux. Anything else will want to charge you for bandwidth that isn't theirs or monthly fees for use, etc. All because they're replacing the phone. How dumb. They should be selling their software for $50 like everybody else. But don't worry, GNU will replace all of them in a couple years.
The truth is Voice over IP isn't hard as long as both ends are using IP. You only have a problem when one end is using a phone line and the other is using IP. Making VoIP connect to the phone system like trying to make your pci cards fit into an old isa bus. It just isn't worth the effort. Let's just replace the phone system. Why? Because in a year or two we'll have wireless lans much faster than our dial-up net connections for free, without wires! I think its time we cut off the legacy BS and fat.
3 appeals courts upheld it? That's like saying guns kill people. Its not the courts that uphold it, its the judges or juries. I think it would be important for us to know who was on the jury or who was the judge that upheld these types of laws and what their reasoning was. We need to watch out for these guys because they have an amazing amount of power attached to every decision they make.
This is known as Capitalism, my friend. It's a beautiful thing.
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Unless you wake to get ready for work and look in the mirror to find a 60 year old slave staring back at you. You do your daily routine yet again, thinking about the next paycheck and your possible retirement, if you live that long. It can all be automated folks, but captialism will never pay for your share when it finally is automated, it'll just replace you. Money doesn't grow on trees. My main problems with capitalism is the greed and lack of love, compassion, caring, whatever. If capitalism could ever provide free food, shelter and education for everyone I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as I see it right now I'm paying for a lot for education I'm not getting. The fast food is aweful, and housing isn't much better. It certainly isn't paradise, even for the rich.
However, you're right, in this case it could work marvelously.
I say let the free market stand. If people prefer to buy used books, or buy a book, read it once and resell it. Then they should be allowed to do that as efficiently as possible. Fuck the authors and publishers. They're asking for us to support them then going behind our backs to remove services that help us, the consumer. If you want to treat me like a consumer then deal with the consequences. If you want to be my friend and give me your content I'll think about being your friend and helping you out where I can. Eventually enough people will get a clue and form a group to take care of eachother and let the rest fend for themselves in this cold loveless capitalism... oh wait, they already did.
Standard APM on Linux on my toshiba laptop (designed for Windows XP and ACPI) works in less than 12 seconds. Its probably more like 5, even with 8 workspaces running galeon, openoffice, the gimp, anjuta, and various terms and gnome apps. I have to shutdown gkrellm, xmms, gmix and rmmod trident because APM kills the sound card. And at first I couldn't find an accelerated video driver, because Trident never made one for Linux and never gave the XF86 guys documentation on their Cyberblade XP chipset. But they got that worked out now, about a month after I bought it I found an accelerated driver online (even without acceleration it was usable, portable 20GB / 1.1Ghz server w/ simple VESA frame buffer). Now it works great! And I bet when I get around to compiling a kernel of my own I'll get ACPI to work and suspend and resume maybe as fast as OSX on a G4. Now that's fast! Before you open the G4 completely its already reloaded, ready and waiting for you. But I'll stick with Linux.
Exactly, they should just expand XEmacs into the window manager it was destined to be.
I'm a pro sys admin. I have a usb device. Its a camera. I plug it in, download images and unplug it. It works great. What do I need 10 usb ports for again? What great usb hardware exists? I don't even like using my wireless keyboards on usb, they just work better on PS/2. And if USB 2.0 is so great why didn't Abit include 10 USB 2.0 ports? Isn't it backward compatible with USB 1.x?
I agree. Being one of those people that needs a serial port to communicate to routers and switches and servers and stuff I like my systems complete. If anything they should be expanding the number of serial ports and offering a custom connection similar to USB that splits into 4 or 8 or 16 ports. You can never have enough serial ports, even if you don't use them someone else can. But what really gets me is how they preach about cutting out the old legacy stuff and then offer both USB 1.x and 2.0. Why not just offer me 8 USB 2.0 ports? Who needs 1.x? And isn't 2.x backward compatible? This looks like its all marketting hype with no real technical thought being put behind it. I hope Abit can stick around a little while longer. I loved their overclockability and I have an older athlon motherboard that's excellent! But this new stuff makes me worry about that company. Heh, integrated a/v, when will they ever learn?
At SGI there were several internal streaming radio stations run by employees playing eveyone's favorite music plus requests. Many many years before I even knew about the RIAA or copyright law. That was back when mp3s were new and cool, now they just suck, like everything else.
But you can display any copyrighted movie to a class of kids without owning a license. Its legal even if you just rent the movie. How is this different?
That's all good and dandy, but what happens when Tivo goes bankrupt?
Try RedHat 7.2 or 7.3. Yes they were insecure in the past, but so was my commodore 64. In my opinion if your systems aren't secure there isn't anything wrong with your systems, there's something wrong with you.
I disagree, Linux's cleaverness is in the license. Without the GPL Linux would be nowhere today, and the Hurd would be where Linux is currently. The license allows everyone around the world to collaborate on a project without fear that some corp is going to steal their work. I'm just affraid that when the FUD doesn't hold back the onslaught of GPLed code and commercial companies can no longer compete or turn a profit that governments will step in to make the world safe for children, and make Linux or GPLed software illegal. Imagine what the effect of years of developement on Linux and open media will do to the IP holders. I'd guess that they'd lose a lot of cash, and they probably wouldn't like that very much. Do you think they'll let that happen?
I believe you can find the way out of most unix systems by running the 'exit' command. But if that doesn't work you may also try 'shutdown', 'init 0', or 'halt'.
Okay, so maybe you weren't talking about me. I am part of the FSF/GNU/Linux movement by supporting and recommending business solutions (not a developer). But you're right, I pay for software, so I must not be in the subculture you mentioned. I'd guess that just about everyone older than 20 who uses linux has paid for at least one piece of software in their life. Now I'm confused, too. Can you tell me more about this subculture you were talking about? I would have been offended if someone said that people like me think all software must be free and refuse to ever pay for it, because that simply isn't true. Perhaps there are other Linux advocates that are more extreme?
By that logic Microsoft should be going out of business soon. Why would anyone pay for commercial software if a free alternative exists? People will pay for free software, just not the geeks who work on it all the time. And people will continue to pay for commercial software because it looks easy on TV. Most people don't go out of their way to save money anymore, or at least that's my opinion.
There is an entire subculture that finds the notion of paying for software offensive
No, but I find your comments offensive. I am part of that subculture. And I would guess you are, too, posting on this site. I pay for a lot of software. Mostly games, but I've also paid for transgaming's winex, codeweavers wine, GNU, Redhat, Slackware, Mandrake, SuSE, and all of Loki's software. And that doesn't even include the proprietary software that I'm required by law to pay for, if I want to use it. I pay for a TON of software, well over $2000 a year. How much would you have me pay to get developement tools to write my own code?
I'm offended by people like you who think that software inherently has value. Software has as much value as music or your favorite movie. The value in software is its functionality and its source code, not the binary data stored on the small reflected plastic disc in the box on the store shelf. In the future I would appreciate it if you didn't stereotype people me anymore.
Oh, and if I did write sofware I wouldn't expect to get paid for it. I'd write it because I wanted to write it, not for money. Why do you write code or play music or dance? Its all the same thing, its all a very personal part of you, your creativity, worth a lot more than money. You'd probably let the record company keep the copyright to your song and expect me to pay for it, reguardless of how it sounds. I'd just give it away. And it makes me feel happy when I find other people like myself who share their music and software with me in the same way. It really doesn't cost that much, you're just short sited.
It is also hard to try and convince someone to go with something new, when "everyone else" uses mp3s!
That statement is wonderful. That is exactly why I use ogg. I rarely follow the trends anymore. I listen to my music on studio monitors and in my opinion ogg is far superior.