Remember that? Bit Boys Glaze3D was promised to be the Voodoo2 killer, then TNT2 killer. They released outrageous benchmarks and cool screenshots, photos of the chip, specs etc. In the end they had NOTHING at all.
Yeah thats what this is. BS
It pretty much the same thing "It's comming!" "It's better!" "It's faster" "It's revolutionary!" "It'll change the world!" "It's ALMOST DONE!"
I really do not think that the increased realism/graphics in games have any effect on distinction between reality/fantasy.
When I played Doom I thought it was as close to reality as it gets. I never thought that games could look better. I thought that Duke Nukem 3d looked far better than Quake and that 3D would never have the same detail as sprites do. (Come on, laugh at me). If I played for an extended period I'd have dreams about the game. But I never thought of reenacting the game or had any delusions about the game being "real"
What I'm trying to say is that a book can influence someone as strongly as a movie or a game despite the lack of fancy graphics or realistic sound. I do not think that the level of realism has anything to do with the effect. It's the theme that matters, a game dealing with killign people is just as effective if it uses cartoon characters (XIII) or real photo based bodies (MaxPayne) or has very detailed gore (SFII).
The only reason we are seeing increases in kids claiming or parents believing that they are influenced by games is the fact that games are becoming main stream.
8 years ago few kids played Wolfenstien, most played Nintendo/Sega games. Back then the "evil influence" was movies, music the evil comic books and *gasp* dungeons & dragons!
Thanks to Columbine and Mr Thomphson games are now seen as "murder simulators" used by "the army to train troops for lethal combat". So is it really surprising that people blame games for any problems?
As far as the kids who said that "GTA made them do it" well...really now.
Lets all be honest for a second. How many times in your childhood did you make stupid lies in order to blame something else for what you did?
When I was 6 years old I was trying to open a window in the kitchen and no matter how I pulled it wouldn't open...then it did but because I was pulling so hard it slamed open and shattered. Guess what "It was the wind!". It comes almost naturaly, I fucked up, I'm in trouble, I need an excuse.
If parents can blame GTA for their kids poor behaviour, is it a shock that the kids do the same thing?
Well it would be a great idea, but shouldn't be needed.
I mean yeah it's a nice feature in case the kid borrows the game from an older friend etc.
The point is that the kids should not have had access to that game.
Personaly I think this whole thing is BS. I played Wolfenstein when I was 9 or so, then moved up to Doom and Doom 2 when I was 13ish, Duke Nukem at 14, Quake at 15, I was in tournaments at 16 in Sin (won some nice money too..). At 21 now I still play FPS, although they're somewhat dull these days.
To date I have NOT had ANY desire to go out and kill random people. Sure there are some people that I would absolutley love to ventilate, but I always wanted to kill the few people that I passionatly hated, long before I touched a computer game.
My parents NEVER monitored which games I played, my parents NEVER monitored which movies I watched. Yet I have NEVER had ANY problems with the law.
Seriously I think the ONLY influence that computer games had on me is that I drive faster than the vast majority of people due to years of addiction to Need For Speed and Motorhead(Play it! Best racing game ever.). I suppose this is a "bad" thing, but plenty of non gamers drive fast, and do it drunk or show off or do stupid shit.
The fact is that games alone don't make kids want to pick up a gun and kill people. Kids at 14 and 16 KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. It's preposterous to suggest that they do not. I knew the difference between a game and RL at 7 when I played DukeNukem (the 2D version). And yeah sure I thought it would be cool to be a super tough guy and go and save the world. But I certainly did not think that I "was" the super tough guy. But then again I thought it was kind of cool to be Superman also but I never made any attempts to fly.
In the end I don't think the censoring will help. Why? Well it's like the gun locks. There are plenty availalbe, but parents still don't bother with them. The.22 rifle the kids used could have had a gun lock and none of this would have happened. What makes you think that the parents who let kids stockpile guns in the garage or make.22 rifles easily accessable would bother locking out the M rated games on their PS2?
In the end though, it's really the kid who is in control. I watched all the porn I wanted at 8, played all the violent games I wanted, there was always some alcohol in the house and never monitored, I had my first beer at 8 or so also, and I hated it. Still I never had any problems. I knew when I did "right" things and "wrong" things and I could tell the different levels of how "wrong" something. Plus I certainly had no trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality.
As I said, I have in the past bought CDs even when I had the mp3s.
Who said anything about charity, there you are strawmaning again. Great.
CDs are still sold, concerts still paid for, Merallica still makes money from their official merchandising etc...
Oh and even if Metallica showed up on my doorstep and kissed my toes I'd not give them a penny...
If CDs are $5 it's not worth my time to download them. There is NO reason that they can't cost that. CD -.05c CD Case -.10c CD Booklet -.20c Delivery etc -.50c.
As far as speeding laws, way to strawman the argument. But if you must know, yes speeding laws are absurd.
I bought plenty of CDs at Half.com EVEN when I had the mp3s, why? Because having the official CD was worth the $7-12 to me. I even bought new CDs for $20ish when I had mp3s of it, but I did so feeling ripped off.
There is NO reason that CDs couldn't sell for $5. If they did I swear I'd buy one a day.
Nobody said anything "has to be free". You're just strawmaning and screaming unemployment and whatever other BS you can come up with.
I dare say that if CDs were $5 that the industry would grow and would create jobs. Don't try to tell me that RIAA is doing sales analysis and that $18 is the best cost/demand ratio. If they did such great market research then people wouldn't be trying to boycott them.
Well nothing built in, but I'm fairly sure that PatchLink can update linux. But then it's for corporations etc. Unless you're ok with having a seperate server to do your patching for you...
It drives VERY well, and believe it or not, but despite the crapy 155hp (2000 model) it's great in the city/suburbs. AWD helps the amazing 0-40 pick up and grip on snow/rain whatever. (You WILL waste Audi TTs, BMW 300s in a 0-40 drag, they'll waste you at 40+ and highways)
It kinda sucks on the highways, it has a very tough time going 80+ and will cap at about 115 or so. So accelerating from 60 on and passing cars can be tough, still it's not bad.
I love it just because there is so much I can do with it, I used to pick up my friends to lan parties, try stuffing 3 21" monitors into any other car, CR-V - no problem.
Still the best part is AWD, it really helps in bad weather, plus being a fairly light car the breaking distance is great.
I can't say much about the gas milage, I drive cars fairly hard so I hardly ever have good results on anything.
Nevermind the whole honda reliability thing. 30k miles and NOTHING. I mean nothing. Everything works like if it were a brand new car.
The difference is that the other hand is available when you "need" it.
For example, you are driving and holding the phone in the left hand; your right hand is on the wheel at about 4 oclock. In that position you can make a left turn moving your hand as high as 11 oclock before it is no longer confortable. This degree on my chrysler concorde is about enough to turn the car 40 degrees or so, for a 90 turn you would need to move your hand all the way to 9 oclock from the 4 oclock position, impossible to do one handed without letting go of the wheel or doing some other 'odd' way, like hooking it etc.
I used to drive a Nissan Maxima and on that car I stuck a steering knob on the wheel. Some thought it was idiotic, "only trucks need those", but seriously, that thing was awesome. I love how it let me spin the wheel 360* one way than the other with one hand and NO delay. I could park that car in seconds.
I still have the knob but I don't want to put it on my leather wraped wheel, I'm afraid it'll leave nasty holes or something (it has "teeth like things).
You know people only tailgate because the guy in front is doing 35 in a 45 zone nevermind that normaly cars do 60 in that zone.
I once had a guy get out and bitch at me for tailgating. I was dumbfounded, not only did I not think I was tailgating him but he was doing 30ish in a 40 zone and slowed down to a CRAWL regularly. He made some idiotic threats "If you ever tailgate me again you won't like what happens!" Still pisses me off...yeah I'd like to know what'd happen...he's 5' round like a ball and I'm 6'6".
Seriously though, nothing pisses me off as much as people who don't free up the left lane on high ways "because they're doing the speed limit" and that makes it "ok". There are such things as Lane Courtesy (aka Lane Discipline) but it seems that only the "good" drivers know about it and those are not the ones that crawl along the left at a steady 55...
I don't think it's really the "conversation" on the phone that distracts people while driving.
I think it's people who try to dial a number while driving, and I don't mean quick dial. I mean people pounding in 6...1...0...3...3..4.'oops'..-...8..0..3...8.."is that right?" "Ooops" -...9...5..."connect"
I mean sure you only have one hand to drive with, but it only limits your ability to make turns greater than 45 degrees. So unless you're trying to park a car, you're not at all limited.
I don't make a habit of using the phone while driving, but at time I 'need' to call, quick dial is your friend.
Use your imagination and try to think for a second. I assure you it's refreshing.
If you can answer the "Why?" then it's not the dumbest thing I've ever seen. But I don't think you can.
So far nobody has. Total focus on the phone call? Who needs a swimming pool and that hidous helmet for that? If you can't focus as is, you got real problems.
Oh god..that'd sell like crazy. All these sim crazed teenage girls. Don't ever talk about this again. The last thing I want to see in people on the train talking about their "hygene levels" and their "body ratings"
"no, people buy cell phones to follow the crowd. When the rest of the crowd has a cell phone that plays games, the rest of the people in the world will want one that does the same thing."
The crowd does "cool" things. Playing games has never been "cool" its' been maybe fun. But never cool. It's one of those "geeky" things that "normal" people do sometimes because it's fun. The N-Cage will be one of those geeky odd things that has no real market.
This is pure opinion, but I am certain that the Ncage will fail.
Thing is, most people buy cellphones for the purpose of staying in touch. The games are just a feature. It's much easier to justify $300-400 for a great phone which will provide crystal clear sound etc than for a very expesnive gameboy.
I just don't see myself or any 'adult' wanting an ncage. Sure the "adults" may play games on their PDAs and cellphones, but they didn't buy them for that purpose. The people who buy ncage will be doing so purley to play games, I don't see the gamer market being crazed about cellphones. The kids on the other hand would proably rather have a GBA nor would they have the money for an ncage.
Personal opinion here, but I think that counting ROI based on such tiny savings in time doesnt' work.
For example, say that the designer has a slow as hell computer and waits 5 minutes per render. He uses that time to take a smoke/get a drink/bathroom break/cube chat/whatever. Now imagine that the render is instant.
The designer still takes the same ammount of breaks just without the excuse. Maybe a few less, but the result is hardly the exact ammount of time saved.
It's often ok for home users to pay $400 for a card that's only marginaly faster than a $150 card because they want "The fastest card in the world" in their PC.
This is not the case in the business world. Nobody cares if your employees have "the fasterst card in the world" in their PCs. They care if you have "the best ROI in the world!"
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Remember that? Bit Boys Glaze3D was promised to be the Voodoo2 killer, then TNT2 killer. They released outrageous benchmarks and cool screenshots, photos of the chip, specs etc. In the end they had NOTHING at all.
Yeah thats what this is. BS
It pretty much the same thing "It's comming!" "It's better!" "It's faster" "It's revolutionary!" "It'll change the world!" "It's ALMOST DONE!"
In the end it's all BS.
I really do not think that the increased realism/graphics in games have any effect on distinction between reality/fantasy.
When I played Doom I thought it was as close to reality as it gets. I never thought that games could look better. I thought that Duke Nukem 3d looked far better than Quake and that 3D would never have the same detail as sprites do. (Come on, laugh at me). If I played for an extended period I'd have dreams about the game. But I never thought of reenacting the game or had any delusions about the game being "real"
What I'm trying to say is that a book can influence someone as strongly as a movie or a game despite the lack of fancy graphics or realistic sound. I do not think that the level of realism has anything to do with the effect. It's the theme that matters, a game dealing with killign people is just as effective if it uses cartoon characters (XIII) or real photo based bodies (MaxPayne) or has very detailed gore (SFII).
The only reason we are seeing increases in kids claiming or parents believing that they are influenced by games is the fact that games are becoming main stream.
8 years ago few kids played Wolfenstien, most played Nintendo/Sega games. Back then the "evil influence" was movies, music the evil comic books and *gasp* dungeons & dragons!
Thanks to Columbine and Mr Thomphson games are now seen as "murder simulators" used by "the army to train troops for lethal combat". So is it really surprising that people blame games for any problems?
As far as the kids who said that "GTA made them do it" well...really now.
Lets all be honest for a second. How many times in your childhood did you make stupid lies in order to blame something else for what you did?
When I was 6 years old I was trying to open a window in the kitchen and no matter how I pulled it wouldn't open...then it did but because I was pulling so hard it slamed open and shattered. Guess what "It was the wind!". It comes almost naturaly, I fucked up, I'm in trouble, I need an excuse.
If parents can blame GTA for their kids poor behaviour, is it a shock that the kids do the same thing?
Well it would be a great idea, but shouldn't be needed.
.22 rifle the kids used could have had a gun lock and none of this would have happened. What makes you think that the parents who let kids stockpile guns in the garage or make .22 rifles easily accessable would bother locking out the M rated games on their PS2?
I mean yeah it's a nice feature in case the kid borrows the game from an older friend etc.
The point is that the kids should not have had access to that game.
Personaly I think this whole thing is BS. I played Wolfenstein when I was 9 or so, then moved up to Doom and Doom 2 when I was 13ish, Duke Nukem at 14, Quake at 15, I was in tournaments at 16 in Sin (won some nice money too..). At 21 now I still play FPS, although they're somewhat dull these days.
To date I have NOT had ANY desire to go out and kill random people. Sure there are some people that I would absolutley love to ventilate, but I always wanted to kill the few people that I passionatly hated, long before I touched a computer game.
My parents NEVER monitored which games I played, my parents NEVER monitored which movies I watched.
Yet I have NEVER had ANY problems with the law.
Seriously I think the ONLY influence that computer games had on me is that I drive faster than the vast majority of people due to years of addiction to Need For Speed and Motorhead(Play it! Best racing game ever.). I suppose this is a "bad" thing, but plenty of non gamers drive fast, and do it drunk or show off or do stupid shit.
The fact is that games alone don't make kids want to pick up a gun and kill people. Kids at 14 and 16 KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. It's preposterous to suggest that they do not. I knew the difference between a game and RL at 7 when I played DukeNukem (the 2D version). And yeah sure I thought it would be cool to be a super tough guy and go and save the world. But I certainly did not think that I "was" the super tough guy. But then again I thought it was kind of cool to be Superman also but I never made any attempts to fly.
In the end I don't think the censoring will help. Why? Well it's like the gun locks. There are plenty availalbe, but parents still don't bother with them. The
In the end though, it's really the kid who is in control. I watched all the porn I wanted at 8, played all the violent games I wanted, there was always some alcohol in the house and never monitored, I had my first beer at 8 or so also, and I hated it. Still I never had any problems. I knew when I did "right" things and "wrong" things and I could tell the different levels of how "wrong" something. Plus I certainly had no trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality.
The whole point is:
STUPID KIDS DO STUPID SHIT
GTA is rated M. For 17 plus. Not ONE of those kids was 17 or older.
End of story. End of lawsuit.
Do you get a cookie for not reading my post?
.05c .10c .20c
As I said, I have in the past bought CDs even when I had the mp3s.
Who said anything about charity, there you are strawmaning again. Great.
CDs are still sold, concerts still paid for, Merallica still makes money from their official merchandising etc...
Oh and even if Metallica showed up on my doorstep and kissed my toes I'd not give them a penny...
If CDs are $5 it's not worth my time to download them. There is NO reason that they can't cost that.
CD -
CD Case -
CD Booklet -
Delivery etc -.50c.
Profit Per CD = $4.15
Are the /. mods smoking crack again?
What's with the recent mod nukes on anything that IS in fact informative and related to the article?
"Oh my god! He must be karma whoring! QUICK ARM THE GUNS!"
Thats just so retarded. Who cares what the "purpose" behind the post is as long as it IS informative?
NYT drives me nuts with the registartation and it's absurd that anyone mods a post that shows a way around that as "offtopic".
Oh and if you want to rank something "overated", you're just "warmodding". Idiots.
Trying to live up to your username?
As far as speeding laws, way to strawman the argument. But if you must know, yes speeding laws are absurd.
I bought plenty of CDs at Half.com EVEN when I had the mp3s, why? Because having the official CD was worth the $7-12 to me. I even bought new CDs for $20ish when I had mp3s of it, but I did so feeling ripped off.
There is NO reason that CDs couldn't sell for $5. If they did I swear I'd buy one a day.
Nobody said anything "has to be free". You're just strawmaning and screaming unemployment and whatever other BS you can come up with.
I dare say that if CDs were $5 that the industry would grow and would create jobs. Don't try to tell me that RIAA is doing sales analysis and that $18 is the best cost/demand ratio. If they did such great market research then people wouldn't be trying to boycott them.
I ought to REALLY preview my posts... :
What I meant is
Well it just so happens that speeding laws are unjust
As far as the assults, the percentage is tiny and NOBODY is out trying to lobby for a change in that area.
Well it just so happens that
As far as the assults, the percentage is tiny and NOBODY is out trying to lobby for a change in that area.
Your searching sucks.
Supports Windows, Unix, Linux and NetWare; - eWeek
Bah...typo in URL, PatchLink
Well nothing built in, but I'm fairly sure that PatchLink can update linux. But then it's for corporations etc.
Unless you're ok with having a seperate server to do your patching for you...
I love that car. No really. I do.
It drives VERY well, and believe it or not, but despite the crapy 155hp (2000 model) it's great in the city/suburbs. AWD helps the amazing 0-40 pick up and grip on snow/rain whatever. (You WILL waste Audi TTs, BMW 300s in a 0-40 drag, they'll waste you at 40+ and highways)
It kinda sucks on the highways, it has a very tough time going 80+ and will cap at about 115 or so. So accelerating from 60 on and passing cars can be tough, still it's not bad.
I love it just because there is so much I can do with it, I used to pick up my friends to lan parties, try stuffing 3 21" monitors into any other car, CR-V - no problem.
Still the best part is AWD, it really helps in bad weather, plus being a fairly light car the breaking distance is great.
I can't say much about the gas milage, I drive cars fairly hard so I hardly ever have good results on anything.
Nevermind the whole honda reliability thing. 30k miles and NOTHING. I mean nothing. Everything works like if it were a brand new car.
-1 Overrated? Why? Oh did I offend you? Do you do 50 on the highway and get tailgated so you mod me down?
What a pathetic loser..
-1 Flamebait for this I suppose... It's ok meta mod will smack your stupid ass back to where it belongs.
The difference is that the other hand is available when you "need" it.
For example, you are driving and holding the phone in the left hand; your right hand is on the wheel at about 4 oclock. In that position you can make a left turn moving your hand as high as 11 oclock before it is no longer confortable. This degree on my chrysler concorde is about enough to turn the car 40 degrees or so, for a 90 turn you would need to move your hand all the way to 9 oclock from the 4 oclock position, impossible to do one handed without letting go of the wheel or doing some other 'odd' way, like hooking it etc.
I used to drive a Nissan Maxima and on that car I stuck a steering knob on the wheel. Some thought it was idiotic, "only trucks need those", but seriously, that thing was awesome. I love how it let me spin the wheel 360* one way than the other with one hand and NO delay. I could park that car in seconds.
I still have the knob but I don't want to put it on my leather wraped wheel, I'm afraid it'll leave nasty holes or something (it has "teeth like things).
You know people only tailgate because the guy in front is doing 35 in a 45 zone nevermind that normaly cars do 60 in that zone.
I once had a guy get out and bitch at me for tailgating. I was dumbfounded, not only did I not think I was tailgating him but he was doing 30ish in a 40 zone and slowed down to a CRAWL regularly. He made some idiotic threats "If you ever tailgate me again you won't like what happens!" Still pisses me off...yeah I'd like to know what'd happen...he's 5' round like a ball and I'm 6'6".
Seriously though, nothing pisses me off as much as people who don't free up the left lane on high ways "because they're doing the speed limit" and that makes it "ok". There are such things as Lane Courtesy (aka Lane Discipline) but it seems that only the "good" drivers know about it and those are not the ones that crawl along the left at a steady 55...
I don't think it's really the "conversation" on the phone that distracts people while driving.
I think it's people who try to dial a number while driving, and I don't mean quick dial. I mean people pounding in 6...1...0...3...3..4.'oops'..-...8..0..3...8.."is that right?" "Ooops" -...9...5..."connect"
I mean sure you only have one hand to drive with, but it only limits your ability to make turns greater than 45 degrees. So unless you're trying to park a car, you're not at all limited.
I don't make a habit of using the phone while driving, but at time I 'need' to call, quick dial is your friend.
Hmm...
I was wrong. There IS a use for these things.
We'll put GWBush and whatever other idiots we can find in these things, toss them in a pool... and NEVER EVER call them.
Use your imagination and try to think for a second. I assure you it's refreshing.
If you can answer the "Why?" then it's not the dumbest thing I've ever seen. But I don't think you can.
So far nobody has. Total focus on the phone call? Who needs a swimming pool and that hidous helmet for that? If you can't focus as is, you got real problems.
The subject says it all...
I'm sorry..but this is so retarded I don't know where to begin.
Why? Ugh..god...
I want what they're smoking...
The Sims on a Cellphone!
Oh god..that'd sell like crazy. All these sim crazed teenage girls. Don't ever talk about this again. The last thing I want to see in people on the train talking about their "hygene levels" and their "body ratings"
Ugh...
"no, people buy cell phones to follow the crowd. When the rest of the crowd has a cell phone that plays games, the rest of the people in the world will want one that does the same thing."
The crowd does "cool" things. Playing games has never been "cool" its' been maybe fun. But never cool. It's one of those "geeky" things that "normal" people do sometimes because it's fun. The N-Cage will be one of those geeky odd things that has no real market.
This is pure opinion, but I am certain that the Ncage will fail.
Thing is, most people buy cellphones for the purpose of staying in touch. The games are just a feature. It's much easier to justify $300-400 for a great phone which will provide crystal clear sound etc than for a very expesnive gameboy.
I just don't see myself or any 'adult' wanting an ncage. Sure the "adults" may play games on their PDAs and cellphones, but they didn't buy them for that purpose. The people who buy ncage will be doing so purley to play games, I don't see the gamer market being crazed about cellphones. The kids on the other hand would proably rather have a GBA nor would they have the money for an ncage.
Personal opinion here, but I think that counting ROI based on such tiny savings in time doesnt' work.
For example, say that the designer has a slow as hell computer and waits 5 minutes per render. He uses that time to take a smoke/get a drink/bathroom break/cube chat/whatever. Now imagine that the render is instant.
The designer still takes the same ammount of breaks just without the excuse. Maybe a few less, but the result is hardly the exact ammount of time saved.
Thing is, this is the business market.
It's often ok for home users to pay $400 for a card that's only marginaly faster than a $150 card because they want "The fastest card in the world" in their PC.
This is not the case in the business world. Nobody cares if your employees have "the fasterst card in the world" in their PCs. They care if you have "the best ROI in the world!"