hehe... that happened to me this morning. Did you know that javascript will go ahead and add a closing select tag for you when you use e.g. targetdiv.innerHTML += 'select name=whatev'
At least I think that's what was happening. Instead I did str += 'select name=whatev' then put all the options in, then did
innerHTML = str;
(If anyone can show me what I was doing wrong -- other than writing an AJAX app -- I'd appreciate it)
I'm saying that browsing an electronic catalog and being able to order things would've immediately occurred to me as I watched Englebart making his shopping lists, send email, etc. Again, though, I haven't read these patents and don't know how much detail they go into. But I think electronic catalogs predate the public Internet.
Would've made the concept of ordering from an online catalog pretty obvious to anyone in attendance, I think. I haven't read the patent details, though
I sort of agree. If these patents suck, then IBM sucks for doing this, squishing-of-SCO be damned.
One quote, though: "after nearly four years of attempts by IBM to resolve its concerns with Amazon.com over infringement of IBM's patents." So it's not quite like the submarine style surface-and-sue approach.
"You keep alluding to a "workable solution", but I don't really understand what the problem is"
I'm not the OP, but I'll clarify:
The problem is that rms is working very hard on a license that uses several ingenious devices to achieve its goals. You and everyone else in the world are, of course, free to go on about your entire lives as if neither this license nor rms himself ever existed, but...... wouldn't it be more fun to jump up at a podium and draw a lot of attention to yourself by pointing out how he's so "utopian" and "unrealistic" (like you are) and how he's got long, dirty hair (like you, presumably, don't) and how grownups who know better (you, I guess) long ago stopped trying to live, work, and act on *principle, and how the real mission of technology is just to produce efficient machines, user freedoms be damned etc. Wouldn't that be more fun?
*btw 'you' refers here to Lyons & the other rms-bashers, in a fictive hypothetical way.
that's the problem: letting rms & the FSF run their operations the way they want to does absolutely *nothing to demonstrate your (see above) superiority over their childish little communistic... uh, commune.
If you read TFA, you would know that rms is "a cantankerous and finger-wagging freewheeler" who has spent decades getting in the way of everyone doing their work, by forcing them (I forgot how) to GPL their output. And also you would know that he is now going to "slap the new restraints on the big tech vendors he so reviles" by making them use GPL 3. I forgot why the vendors he reviles are using the GPLv2...
You claim that he is an eminently practical man when TFA clearly states that he is "corpulent and slovenly, with long, scraggly hair, strands of which he has been known to pluck out and toss into a bowl of soup he is eating." Wouldn't an eminently practicaly man want to keep those strands of hair?...meh. I decided not to keep going with this. Friends, please express your displeasure to Forbes Magazine rather than slashdot
Is that necessary? Let it contact microsoft if it wants. The thing to exploit is what it says to microsoft when it calls. I don't know how it works, but it prolly takes a snapshot of a bunch of files & directories and sends that to MS. Sprinkle weird stuff in those places and you'll get false negatives aplenty.
I think the due diligence requirement you're speaking of only applies to trademark. With copyright, your awareness and failure-to-sue some other guilty party could conceivably be brough up in court as a defense.
But I don't think this defense works very often. The copyright holder could basically say "we have to use our resources sparingly; there's so much infringement out there that we can't bring cases except where there's a very good chance of winning"
Parent rules. I've said it before: the most disturbing thing about Ted "Series of Tubes to Nowhere" Stevens is not that he spouted a bunch of dumb nonsense, but that he spouted it after having sat through hours of hearings during which Vincent Cerf, Larry Lessig, and others explained the tech in pretty good detail.
The decline in total arable land is offset by a serious increase -- beginning in the early 19th century -- in the amount of food that can be grown on a given quantity of land?
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Thought I'd point that out
hehe... that happened to me this morning. Did you know that javascript will go ahead and add a closing select tag for you when you use e.g. targetdiv.innerHTML += 'select name=whatev'
At least I think that's what was happening. Instead I did
str += 'select name=whatev'
then put all the options in, then did
innerHTML = str;
(If anyone can show me what I was doing wrong -- other than writing an AJAX app -- I'd appreciate it)
I'm saying that browsing an electronic catalog and being able to order things would've immediately occurred to me as I watched Englebart making his shopping lists, send email, etc. Again, though, I haven't read these patents and don't know how much detail they go into. But I think electronic catalogs predate the public Internet.
heh.. a decent try but The Mother of all Demos
http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite/1968Demo.html
Would've made the concept of ordering from an online catalog pretty obvious to anyone in attendance, I think. I haven't read the patent details, though
I sort of agree. If these patents suck, then IBM sucks for doing this, squishing-of-SCO be damned.
One quote, though: "after nearly four years of attempts by IBM to resolve its concerns with Amazon.com over infringement of IBM's patents." So it's not quite like the submarine style surface-and-sue approach.
"You keep alluding to a "workable solution", but I don't really understand what the problem is"
... ... wouldn't it be more fun to jump up at a podium and draw a lot of attention to yourself by pointing out how he's so "utopian" and "unrealistic" (like you are) and how he's got long, dirty hair (like you, presumably, don't) and how grownups who know better (you, I guess) long ago stopped trying to live, work, and act on *principle, and how the real mission of technology is just to produce efficient machines, user freedoms be damned etc. Wouldn't that be more fun?
... uh, commune.
I'm not the OP, but I'll clarify:
The problem is that rms is working very hard on a license that uses several ingenious devices to achieve its goals. You and everyone else in the world are, of course, free to go on about your entire lives as if neither this license nor rms himself ever existed, but
*btw 'you' refers here to Lyons & the other rms-bashers, in a fictive hypothetical way.
that's the problem: letting rms & the FSF run their operations the way they want to does absolutely *nothing to demonstrate your (see above) superiority over their childish little communistic
If you read TFA, you would know that rms is "a cantankerous and finger-wagging freewheeler" who has spent decades getting in the way of everyone doing their work, by forcing them (I forgot how) to GPL their output. And also you would know that he is now going to "slap the new restraints on the big tech vendors he so reviles" by making them use GPL 3. I forgot why the vendors he reviles are using the GPLv2...
...meh. I decided not to keep going with this. Friends, please express your displeasure to Forbes Magazine rather than slashdot
You claim that he is an eminently practical man when TFA clearly states that he is "corpulent and slovenly, with long, scraggly hair, strands of which he has been known to pluck out and toss into a bowl of soup he is eating." Wouldn't an eminently practicaly man want to keep those strands of hair?
"He sounds like the Linux version of Ballmer."
That is according to Lyons's plan, and the plan of the scores of other detractors.
Stop reading "of this RMS" and read something he actually wrote.
"Yeah, you don't own music, movie, art work."
No one does.
For anyone interested, on my blog: http://btetc.blogspot.com/2006/10/some-questions-o f-narrative.html
You think the US Patent Office is applying the "novelty" standard effectively?! That's so CUTE!!!
So do you think there should be a merit badge about not-breaking every law, or just the most important ones (murder/rape/filesharing)?
Ha! You just thought about the merit badge, and therefore do not get it! (btw you guys all just lost the game, too.
I'll put ten bucks on ROTK winning best picture
Is that necessary? Let it contact microsoft if it wants. The thing to exploit is what it says to microsoft when it calls. I don't know how it works, but it prolly takes a snapshot of a bunch of files & directories and sends that to MS. Sprinkle weird stuff in those places and you'll get false negatives aplenty.
It's free as in freedom. no it doesn't work perfectly yet, but Flash sites suck anyway
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
I think the due diligence requirement you're speaking of only applies to trademark. With copyright, your awareness and failure-to-sue some other guilty party could conceivably be brough up in court as a defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laches_(equity)
But I don't think this defense works very often. The copyright holder could basically say "we have to use our resources sparingly; there's so much infringement out there that we can't bring cases except where there's a very good chance of winning"
Maybe instead of banning tag, they should've just forced the kids to play it more slowly?
I did the same thing with my kids, but during a small earthquake they fell off and shattered. I'm suing someone over this, btw.
Consider brightly-colord safety chains for kids:
http://www.greatcompanions.com/images/GC1013_.JPG
Parent rules. I've said it before: the most disturbing thing about Ted "Series of Tubes to Nowhere" Stevens is not that he spouted a bunch of dumb nonsense, but that he spouted it after having sat through hours of hearings during which Vincent Cerf, Larry Lessig, and others explained the tech in pretty good detail.
Video here: http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cf m?id=1705
We do not need to educate our reps. They know pretty-much exactly what they're doing. We need to toss them out and get new ones.
i bet he can serve up a 28-47K archive pretty reliably
Fuckshoes!
(feeble coattail-ridiing attempt. Or is F word + footwear a patented method/concept/algorithm?
The decline in total arable land is offset by a serious increase -- beginning in the early 19th century -- in the amount of food that can be grown on a given quantity of land?
I guess I don't get it either 'cause jahuda and some of the other replies you got make sense to me.