Re:AMD to hold and possibly take back ground in '0
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That sounds like an extremely BAD thing to me, ESPECIALLY for big business. Now, instead of being able to hot swap out your dedicated SSL accelerator, you suddenly have to replace an entire CPU?
Same goes for home users. Instead of being able to replace that 50$ soundcard, now you have to buy a new 800$ cpu or go without sound... Integration isn't always a good thing.
Re:AMD to hold and possibly take back ground in '0
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IBM Opts for AMD
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You're forgetting two very important factors:
1. More cores does not necessarily a faster CPU make. Simply adding more cores isn't going to be enough for AMD. Every core you add tags on overhead... in many cases I would venture to guess 8 cores would be SLOWER than 1.
2. Exactly how many applications out there right now are able to take advantage of 8 cpu's? Most everyday business applications people use aren't even SMP aware.
Uhh... this isn't new and it's FUD
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IBM already has bladecenters with opterons... why is this news? How is this a defeat for Intel? IBM is basically announcing a refresh of their current lineup... you can bet your ass they'll be doing the same thing when intel rolls out the new Xeon in full force as well.
Remember kids, just because you like to pull for the underdog, doesn't mean it's OK to make false statements about the king.
Clarion: their configuration utility is point and click.
HBA's: installation of drivers takes about 3 seconds, it should've been fun. Buy qlogic, it's./qlinstall on linux, pkg_add on solaris, or a standard hardware install on windows. All of the above OS's also have built-in drivers if you're just too hard up to do the install.
Fence off? It's called zoning, and again is point and click. It takes about 5 minutes.
Please, do go on. AoE is a far bigger pain in the ass than FC, I work with both on a daily basis.
I'm sorry, but there's no way this should be insightful. Which part of implementing a fibre channel network did you have troubles with? Plugging it in? Or pressing the "scan fibre devices" button in your management app of choice? I don't believe for a second, after reading through all this, that AoE is any easier than FC or iSCSI.
So does this mean instead of "grow your manhood in just 2 weeks with these pillZ" they're going to get "get your eyesight back in just two weeks with these sweet pillZ"?
Am I the only one who remembers when they tried this with DiVX? It didn't work then, it's not going to work this time either. Not to mention, for the majority of this country, I bet those movies will take a day to download... that sounds like fun!
You're assuming that specialized ISA/PCI card doesn't have a Linux driver written for it, if it does, you should have no issues porting it into VMWare. If it doesn't, in most cases you should be able to find someone willing and able to write a driver for you for the right price.
This is exactly why we have VMware. Need to run an app for 98? Put it in a virtual session. Get all your *real work* done on the external OS, whether that be Windows/Linux/whatever. You turn on your network connection to the virtual machine only when you need to transfer files on and off of it. IIRC, you can also setup a firewall to block what can and can't get to that virtual machine... need ftp out? Only allow ftp. Most of this can be setup so even the most illiterate user can figure it out.
I think you're missing the point... this company won't just make another Skype client, they'll make their own "skype" network. Skype won't get anything because this will be a completely different service. The reason this is of concern is because it is well known in the Chinese market, if there's a Chinese alternative, the people will use it (notice Google losing out to the Chinese duplicate).
Automobiles they have "chery" whose entire line-up are shoddy copies of cars already produced by other manufacturers.
We have Huawei, who has literally stolen Cisco's router code to make a "competing product".
And then we have their military who happened to... yes steal their designs as well (at least the stuff they didn't just purchase from Russia and reverse engineer).
So exactly what are these innovations taking place in China you wanted to defend?
BTW, there's PLENTY more examples to prove how they don't innovate at all, just steal/reverse engineer/copy others if you need them.
They just released ZFS in the Solaris10 06/06 update 2. Funny how this gets released at the same time:) Guess they're trying to pimp that new filesystem with some massive storage to boot.
I agree with you, but just wanted to point out, I have had to support customers who have gotten kernel panics with a Solaris shipped FC driver. Unfortunately I can't tell you what the end cause was as it got bumped all the way to our in-house engineering.
Hardly the case. In my experience Redhat has always been OUTSTANDING about responding to bugs we find. You do actually get something out of their support if you need it.
yes but I'm talking about raw performance and being able to run it on older hardware. Gnome 2.12 crawls on my laptop basically making it unusable. 2.14 flies and makes the experience a dream. I can't imagine corporate users wouldn't be interested in speeding up their desktop on older hardware. Not every corporation is willing to get you a new desktop every 2 years:)
uhhh... they are refining those everyday apps and polishing current versions. SLES9 is already on update3. What exactly did you think the "update" part of update3 meant?
I can't believe they aren't going to use gnome 2.14 and xorg 7.x. In my experience, both have made linux incredibly MORE responsive. I haven't used SLED10 yet so I can't compare to gentoo with the above, but I know moving from 2.12 and xorg 6.x it was 100% different as far as responsiveness on my *older* laptop (PIII 850/192MB/ram).
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That sounds like an extremely BAD thing to me, ESPECIALLY for big business. Now, instead of being able to hot swap out your dedicated SSL accelerator, you suddenly have to replace an entire CPU?
Same goes for home users. Instead of being able to replace that 50$ soundcard, now you have to buy a new 800$ cpu or go without sound... Integration isn't always a good thing.
You're forgetting two very important factors:
1. More cores does not necessarily a faster CPU make. Simply adding more cores isn't going to be enough for AMD. Every core you add tags on overhead... in many cases I would venture to guess 8 cores would be SLOWER than 1.
2. Exactly how many applications out there right now are able to take advantage of 8 cpu's? Most everyday business applications people use aren't even SMP aware.
IBM already has bladecenters with opterons... why is this news? How is this a defeat for Intel? IBM is basically announcing a refresh of their current lineup... you can bet your ass they'll be doing the same thing when intel rolls out the new Xeon in full force as well.
Remember kids, just because you like to pull for the underdog, doesn't mean it's OK to make false statements about the king.
we did last week in their iSCSI software initiator.
Clarion: their configuration utility is point and click.
./qlinstall on linux, pkg_add on solaris, or a standard hardware install on windows. All of the above OS's also have built-in drivers if you're just too hard up to do the install.
HBA's: installation of drivers takes about 3 seconds, it should've been fun. Buy qlogic, it's
Fence off? It's called zoning, and again is point and click. It takes about 5 minutes.
Please, do go on. AoE is a far bigger pain in the ass than FC, I work with both on a daily basis.
I'm sorry, but there's no way this should be insightful. Which part of implementing a fibre channel network did you have troubles with? Plugging it in? Or pressing the "scan fibre devices" button in your management app of choice? I don't believe for a second, after reading through all this, that AoE is any easier than FC or iSCSI.
because lord knows those "enemies" didn't see all the press about this...
How long did it take for those items to come out of bell? Do you think it was 6 months of research? Give it time young padwan.
So does this mean instead of "grow your manhood in just 2 weeks with these pillZ" they're going to get "get your eyesight back in just two weeks with these sweet pillZ"?
Am I the only one who remembers when they tried this with DiVX? It didn't work then, it's not going to work this time either. Not to mention, for the majority of this country, I bet those movies will take a day to download... that sounds like fun!
You're assuming that specialized ISA/PCI card doesn't have a Linux driver written for it, if it does, you should have no issues porting it into VMWare. If it doesn't, in most cases you should be able to find someone willing and able to write a driver for you for the right price.
I assumed time frame was recognized as the last 10-20 years when they've started to become industrialized... My apologies for not specifying.
This is exactly why we have VMware. Need to run an app for 98? Put it in a virtual session. Get all your *real work* done on the external OS, whether that be Windows/Linux/whatever. You turn on your network connection to the virtual machine only when you need to transfer files on and off of it. IIRC, you can also setup a firewall to block what can and can't get to that virtual machine... need ftp out? Only allow ftp. Most of this can be setup so even the most illiterate user can figure it out.
I think you're missing the point... this company won't just make another Skype client, they'll make their own "skype" network. Skype won't get anything because this will be a completely different service. The reason this is of concern is because it is well known in the Chinese market, if there's a Chinese alternative, the people will use it (notice Google losing out to the Chinese duplicate).
So exactly where has China innovated?
Automobiles they have "chery" whose entire line-up are shoddy copies of cars already produced by other manufacturers.
We have Huawei, who has literally stolen Cisco's router code to make a "competing product".
And then we have their military who happened to... yes steal their designs as well (at least the stuff they didn't just purchase from Russia and reverse engineer).
So exactly what are these innovations taking place in China you wanted to defend?
BTW, there's PLENTY more examples to prove how they don't innovate at all, just steal/reverse engineer/copy others if you need them.
Why don't they just have the developers use ssh2 keys? I didn't know anyone actually used passwords on secure systems for authentication...
if windowsupdate.microsoft.com were hacked, you can bet your ass there'd be a nice big banner stating so because that is the "golden egg" of hacks.
Those poor mozilla servers! I think with the ~$72million they made last year, they can afford the bandwidth...
They just released ZFS in the Solaris10 06/06 update 2. Funny how this gets released at the same time :) Guess they're trying to pimp that new filesystem with some massive storage to boot.
I agree with you, but just wanted to point out, I have had to support customers who have gotten kernel panics with a Solaris shipped FC driver. Unfortunately I can't tell you what the end cause was as it got bumped all the way to our in-house engineering.
Part of being a good administrator is making the job easy for whoever gets called to fix a server when you're on vacation, or after you leave.
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Apparently your company hasn't started outsourcing
Hardly the case. In my experience Redhat has always been OUTSTANDING about responding to bugs we find. You do actually get something out of their support if you need it.
yes but I'm talking about raw performance and being able to run it on older hardware. Gnome 2.12 crawls on my laptop basically making it unusable. 2.14 flies and makes the experience a dream. I can't imagine corporate users wouldn't be interested in speeding up their desktop on older hardware. Not every corporation is willing to get you a new desktop every 2 years :)
uhhh... they are refining those everyday apps and polishing current versions. SLES9 is already on update3. What exactly did you think the "update" part of update3 meant?
I can't believe they aren't going to use gnome 2.14 and xorg 7.x. In my experience, both have made linux incredibly MORE responsive. I haven't used SLED10 yet so I can't compare to gentoo with the above, but I know moving from 2.12 and xorg 6.x it was 100% different as far as responsiveness on my *older* laptop (PIII 850/192MB/ram).