Should parent be marked informative , or grandparent be marked Sleep deprived. Seriously though , that gave me the best laugh ive had in long time,.
I used to have a clip on camera for my old Ibook , and i know they still exist . so it would be fairly easy to turn it the other way and angle it down to get the perspective correct. One thing that did strike me as odd,Most of these people really need to calibrate their monitors (or dont buy a camera of that brand again) , The ones with the correct calibration look wonderfull
ah thats ok then,You completly did lose me on the American football stuff Though i did used to play rugby in school so its probably similar. I suppose people cant be expected to do it right , when 99% of those who do it for a living dont know how to do it properly. I am in germany right now in a village , so i dont even get cable here , even if i wanted to have it , I can see some use to this internet personal broadcasting(i dont like the sudo-word podcasting , so im calling it Iperbocasting or iperbo for short , itjust as silly and dosn'T sound like a plants mating ritual),I would be intrested in having this here perhaps get some information on local herritage in a live action form , as restoration work does intrested me , and there is plenty to do around these parts .
Most of europe has this crap on cable TV . we have generaly one chan relegated for local intrest storys by members of the community , there is hardly ever anything on them and when there is , it is ussualy utter tripe,Though i admit i havn't owned a TV cappable of reciving Broadcasts for 2 years now , i doubt its changed much. Ok perhaps im generalisng saying all of europe , but ive seen this in a fair few places and several difrent countrys here,but i can not say every country and every place therein. It does exist here though and it has done for a fair few years. I dont know how bad it is over in the USA , but i know for a fact that its really quite a load of rubbish o'er here
I met an austrian who was obsesed with Australia last year "Hallo , wie gehts MATE. Sollen wir zu haus gehen und eine COPPERS haben,,, BONZA(which he said as in , Bont'ts'h'aa" The fully capitalised words represent when he would put on an awfull Aussie accent. well atleast he got the Aussie beer right.
No no not we are too helpless , its the we are yet unable to grasp , read The up on the word yet , so far we do not have the background to understand it.The goal to this,is to question everthing , i have always belived that . Our minds are yet to linear to understand this does not mean we wont , it means our combined knowlidge is lacking which will not always be the case and the only way we will expand our knowlidge is constant inquisition of our belifes and formation of new theorum,we argue the same point you see but on difrent levels;) I constantly question how the universe may have come to existence and have so far come to the conclusion that our terms of thinking so far are severely limited and we stand no chance of explaining this till we understand the nature of energy to a far greater degree , this after all is meta-phyiscs so its less scientific than most areas.
tis one large paradox really considering our current mental aparel,( i come across better in spoken word i assure you)This uncertantiy as to the nature of things is argument enough to hold most things to question. The only thing we can be certain of is our uncertainty
OK heres a small argument for the soul , Energy can never be destroyed only change form , our thoughts exist as electrical impulses.this is the best i can currently do , i will try contacting a freind who has studyed the paranormaln for many years he may have a few better examples though i doubt i can get a hold of him(he is a dire synic so no worrys about a kook) The fact we exist is enough , the fact i feel , see , know , have compasion for living things, all may be an illusion of grandure,a slight of our feeble minds to stop us going loco.though with all of the evidence i cant help feeling there is more to our existence , that we are more than some divine comedy. The evidence for a soul we can present is the consiousenes , right now we can not explain it scientificly we can theorise as to how it came about , but the moment we understand it will be the moment we hit a new golden age of science.
I can not argue for a god or creator , I'm frankly a taoist philisohpicaly so i see no reason for that,However since i see you obviously have a strong scientific grounding i would pose you this question which i am yet to get a good awnser about. Is there any theory as to where the energy in the universe came from in the first place . We are fairly sure that the best explination for the universe is the big bang , So I must ask where did the energy here origionate from , this is possibly an argument that we will never awnser (well not for a very long time). I have swayed as to why , perhaps time is syclical perhaps a god of some form , which with both would still raise the question , where in the hell did they origionaly come from , alas i imagine our minds still see in far to linear terms to grasp this concept
on the other issue i thank you and conced the debate ,;) though i still contest i have a sick mind (*inset smutty joke*) .
;) first off , i would say debate is one of the best ways to formulate ideas, This is why i continue conversations such as these useually my opinion will change towards the end and more often than not so will the other persons to some extent.
Over the issue of a soul , I have read many books on the issue and neither has persuaded me 100% either way.Though saying it is astronomically unlikely is a bit far from it,The contrary has just as little basis for scientific opinion and thus is a religious belife untill we can garner some way of testing it either way , although if you care to enlighten me on any evidence against it i will be more than happy to hear it , likewise if anyone has any evidence for it (pure science not religious mumbo jumbo).
The sun revolving around the earth was held as scientific fact for a good long while because it seemed more likely , so for now im Making a schrödingers cat out of the issue.
Small scale testing may be ok , highly controled situations for about 10 years would be prudent i belive.
I do and have thought seriously over the issue for the last couple of days, and i am split on the issue . I think im changing why im against it though.
Here is a thought , take for example a condition that causes a serious birth defect in males , but these males are imune to a certain disease which arises some time after the introduction of said discriminatory birth methods(simmiler to sycle cell animea and maleria) or even just the cariers,switch genders around if you must , now we all know our current state of medical progresion is grand , but is yet to compare to the natural immune system . I could invision a slightly unlikly if terrible plauge(long incubation of say 6 months so it would not be noticed) , akin to the black death sweaping across the world (air passengers) leaving but a few people who suffer this disease and the carriers in a small country alive , whilst the rest of the world who sucesfully wiped both the good and bads parts of the condition from the face of the country and end up all being wiped out thanks to it (ok now im off to write a book). Silly example i know and far fetched,but untill we can fully understand the function of certain key genes i would say its a slim risk but one to consider, could be conter acted with a cataloug of genes from the said people and hormone or imuno therapy i would belive , but do these programs exist yet
anyway im no so against it as i was yesterday , i was in a rather bad mood;)
First off , i am not in any way religious,;) perhaps a bit of a bleading heart liberal though. I would never deny anyone the right to abortion , i may disagree with it but i would never stop it (this is how it should be , never force your belifes on other s)a foetus is a parasite , it definantly is alive the question is,does it poses consciousness,The moment i consider a Termination wrong is the moment it would develop its sence of self , When that is will require much more research but its safe to assume 3-4 months as a safty margin I would say. I dont think we are here to debate the exitence of a soul , there is currently no real evidence either way , so untill i see some good research i will not comment on this . So right now it is possible that i may have been or may not have existed before birth and this is scientificaly a non debatble point. I have no problem with natural selection , it has worked suprisingly well for a great length of time millions of years infact, and we have study genetics for neigh on 100 years , All i am thinking is we currently dont have the experiance in the field to start experimentation on this scale and need far more research. Illogic ? perhaps not , We do not know what impact this could have , sure if all people could be trusted to make wise logical decisions then yes wonderfull , but can they , it would be incredibly naive to think we could and wouldnt just make a larger mess of the whole situation. Right now if we can cure these conditions we will learn far more than if we were to wipe them out through selective impregnation. I may be a bit soft sometimes(I dont have it in me to kill insects even) Though on this i do feel we do not have the experiance to know what may hapen (i know i know selective breading of animals ) I am however quite up for alot more small scale research and alot more research into cloning,human cloning even . I just have grave doubts over this situation
Time for my cats to download this to read, i belive;).What a load higerypogery MS spouts , i had yet to fully read over the said license fully when i posted that. The format is now in the wild though , and people in the USA can not legaly do bugger all with it , however people in russian could easily look at the code and some of that in a highly modified form may well slip into some projects. This is the exact same dangling carrot as with the MS source leaks , except this time it's not a conspiracy if they did it to try and entrap OSS (conspiracy theorys are fun). No this time they did it to try and get around an issue (same tactic they took with the EU , lets hope this backfires as badly) as it also seems like a nice way of screwing Open office over (or one of the many other projects which have the ability to read the format) if the code in any way resembles the MS code
This definantly needs submited to slashdot as a story. Please do so i would feel awfull stealing your thunder and submiting it myself but this is rather hilarious hipocracy of the same ilk of "thou shalt not kill" and the crusades.
If they open up the format just enough so we can read it , it will be a nice enough start so we can officaly open the documents then save them as a fully open format. As much as i would love them to be made to play fair and open the format fully, Opening it enough to make it easy to parse gives us all we need incase of the disapearence of word , or MS trying to force an upgrade by breaking compatability in some way.
First off i will apoligise as i have been on edge today , but starting your post by saying i have a sick mind is a good way for me to label you a troll.
I strongly belive that the personality has a hell of alot to do with how your raised so yes , if i were to have been adopted i would be quite difrent to how i am today. I did used to study genetics before i decided to change my focus in life so my genetics is slightly limited. What you decide to do with it is largely based on the way your raised and the influences you have. I would love for no other Disabled children to ever suffer again , but not by selectivly enginering them out of society,but by curing them.
"Where did you hear me advocate "artificially removing the people"? Sheesh, you really are obsessed with the idea! Not that I blame you, but please try to avoid jumping to unwarranted conclusion that everyone wants to kill you, ok?"" What else would you call selecting the birth to avoid a disability. I am well aware you probably dont want to kill me and i dont think everyone wants to kill me (just the american gouvernment ((joke))) However i naturaly take it personaly when you call me mentaly disturbed (effectivly) then suggest i may have been hapier not being born Be carefull how you word things (i mess up on that front alot;) ).
After rereading it perhaps you are right,i was perhaps reading too much into it , though the suggestion of "Like a game" got me on edge. I think im just in a rather bad mood today so i apoligise if i am jumping down this doctors throat without cause
Excuse me ? Just one frigging moment Just as i have a disability,you think im suffering in some way , or that my life has been a missery. Yeah i would of been hapier without a disability,but i would not be me. I would like a cure not extermination,thank you very much. Dr Hawkins does have a disability and selective breading would have ment he was not born , this is not an IF.Im sure he would love a healthy body , but he does not have one and having him not be born is not going to help him any is it , perhaps finding a cure to it. as im very sure if you have a brother or sister that they are not exactly like you , Even if the genetic change they are doing is in changing the DNA of a specific cell thus a genetic sex change (its far more likely they are switching in another sperm) Girls and boys will have difrent lives you change due to your enviroments and experiance , inteligence is not pure genetics I see no problem with genetic engenering to remove the problem gene and repairing it , though artificaly removing the people is sick .
What a total load of *explitive deleted* First up it does not matter one bit if the shooter immitated a game , if it had not of been a game it would of beena TV show , a relative , a historic event. These people obviously sufferd from some serious problems , and if i were to take a few hours to research i could site many many cases of imitation of historical masacres , or copycat killers etc. People will find someone to hold on to and they will use that. All this Doctorb(The b is for bar-stard)is doing is ridding to fame on a fad , a whitch hunt of media morality. I doubt this is the last time ill state this on slashdot , there are always more of these idiots out in the wild
Ok first off this is just my opinion. Even if it is for medical reasons , if you for some reason decide that you wish or need to ahve a child of sex A or B to avoid an illness,then where does it end, what disability is an unaceptable condition. As a person who has a Form of disability myself I find this highly unnerving. if you so badly fear a child with a disability then please dont have children or adopt , there are plenty of children who are suffering in underfunded, understaffed orphanages.
Take pick up a cleche here , Do you think Steven Hawkins parents,given this option would have taken it and deprived the world of such a brilliant mind.
Alas i belive in peoples right and freedom to decide and i dont want to be a hipocrit, so if it was to come up in a ballet i would allow it , But i would certainly avoid it like the plauge and tell anyone who asks what i thought of it (self censorship that is , take note Politicians , we dont need views forced upon us)
Possibly , but that does leave yourself open to problems with the current license and no possible get out claus , As i understand it the GPL can only be replaced with a license in the same vent as the origional , the only aditions allowed are to clear legal issues up such as the current international law issues. This leaves the kernel vunerable to these problems , However i can see why it was done as the GNU FSF needs to clear this point far more and perhaps give stronger legal asurances that the license will and must remain in its current spirit
What is perhaps needed , is a GPL license license , Something to insure that the GPL must assure some basic freedoms and restrictions with the code (IE: copyleft). This is perhaps needed to stop the GNU licenses ever going sour with these clauses Infact i would hope that this already exists
Too true,The reason it was licensed as GPL 2 explicitly is something i think that requires some investigation , as it may shed some light if this will be a major pain or not. If anyone has any background please don't keep it to yourself I would fathom a guess that it may have had to do witha flaw in GPL vs1 or fears about the changing nature of the GPL license but those are just guess
Correct me if im wrong , but is there not a list of kernel developers with contact info.It is good honest Office administration work;) it would bore the hell out of me but it may be needed. Lets just hope we learn from this atleast,as i would hate to see the same hapen with GPL 4. Though the point being , GPL3 only needs to work with GPL 2 , GPL 2 does not have to work with GPL 3 as such , the kernel and other projects could continue on with GPL 2 and new projects could stay with GPL3 and keep the GPL 2 licensed code GPL 2 licensed
Would this be so much of a problem , if so then i see that as a major flaw in the GPL v2 , if they are not avaliable to contact then i would move ahead witht he change and if they later contacted me and disagreed it could be removed , if they are dead then IANAL but would the copywright not either drop or pass to a family member
Hm i had not though of that , However will the vs 3 add restrictions as such or will they be safegaurds,or explicit wording to ensure compatibility with international laws as i understand it well it would be odd if they made it incompatible ((Joke)) unless ofcourse they are trying to crush linux for the glorius rise of HURD((/joke))
True enough , and witht he kernel that is alot of people,However I think there will be little problem here. As i understand it , the GPL v3 address major issues with international laws which is a benifit to us all , and im sure the kernel developers will see it this way (anyone out there who is a kernel dev please correct me if im wrong) The license is problemeatic if people in say Belarus dont have to abide by it and can just take the code for their own.The only problem will be caused if someone is trying to cause trouble , and if its just one person there code can be removed and replaced
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Should parent be marked informative , or grandparent be marked Sleep deprived . ,.
,Most of these people really need to calibrate their monitors (or dont buy a camera of that brand again) , The ones with the correct calibration look wonderfull
Seriously though , that gave me the best laugh ive had in long time
I used to have a clip on camera for my old Ibook , and i know they still exist . so it would be fairly easy to turn it the other way and angle it down to get the perspective correct.
One thing that did strike me as odd
ah thats ok then ,You completly did lose me on the American football stuff Though i did used to play rugby in school so its probably similar . . ,I would be intrested in having this here perhaps get some information on local herritage in a live action form , as restoration work does intrested me , and there is plenty to do around these parts .
I suppose people cant be expected to do it right , when 99% of those who do it for a living dont know how to do it properly
I am in germany right now in a village , so i dont even get cable here , even if i wanted to have it , I can see some use to this internet personal broadcasting(i dont like the sudo-word podcasting , so im calling it Iperbocasting or iperbo for short , itjust as silly and dosn'T sound like a plants mating ritual)
Most of europe has this crap on cable TV . we have generaly one chan relegated for local intrest storys by members of the community , there is hardly ever anything on them and when there is , it is ussualy utter tripe ,Though i admit i havn't owned a TV cappable of reciving Broadcasts for 2 years now , i doubt its changed much . ,but i can not say every country and every place therein . .
Ok perhaps im generalisng saying all of europe , but ive seen this in a fair few places and several difrent countrys here
It does exist here though and it has done for a fair few years
I dont know how bad it is over in the USA , but i know for a fact that its really quite a load of rubbish o'er here
I met an austrian who was obsesed with Australia last year .
"Hallo , wie gehts MATE. Sollen wir zu haus gehen und eine COPPERS haben,,, BONZA(which he said as in , Bont'ts'h'aa"
The fully capitalised words represent when he would put on an awfull Aussie accent. well atleast he got the Aussie beer right
No no not we are too helpless , its the we are yet unable to grasp , read The up on the word yet , so far we do not have the background to understand it .The goal to this ,is to question everthing , i have always belived that . Our minds are yet to linear to understand this does not mean we wont , it means our combined knowlidge is lacking which will not always be the case and the only way we will expand our knowlidge is constant inquisition of our belifes and formation of new theorum ,we argue the same point you see but on difrent levels ;) .
,( i come across better in spoken word i assure you)This uncertantiy as to the nature of things is argument enough to hold most things to question .
I constantly question how the universe may have come to existence and have so far come to the conclusion that our terms of thinking so far are severely limited and we stand no chance of explaining this till we understand the nature of energy to a far greater degree , this after all is meta-phyiscs so its less scientific than most areas
tis one large paradox really considering our current mental aparel
The only thing we can be certain of is our uncertainty
OK heres a small argument for the soul , Energy can never be destroyed only change form , our thoughts exist as electrical impulses.this is the best i can currently do , i will try contacting a freind who has studyed the paranormaln for many years he may have a few better examples though i doubt i can get a hold of him(he is a dire synic so no worrys about a kook) ,a slight of our feeble minds to stop us going loco .though with all of the evidence i cant help feeling there is more to our existence , that we are more than some divine comedy . .
,However since i see you obviously have a strong scientific grounding i would pose you this question which i am yet to get a good awnser about. .
;) though i still contest i have a sick mind (*inset smutty joke*) .
The fact we exist is enough , the fact i feel , see , know , have compasion for living things, all may be an illusion of grandure
The evidence for a soul we can present is the consiousenes , right now we can not explain it scientificly we can theorise as to how it came about , but the moment we understand it will be the moment we hit a new golden age of science
I can not argue for a god or creator , I'm frankly a taoist philisohpicaly so i see no reason for that
Is there any theory as to where the energy in the universe came from in the first place . We are fairly sure that the best explination for the universe is the big bang , So I must ask where did the energy here origionate from , this is possibly an argument that we will never awnser (well not for a very long time)
I have swayed as to why , perhaps time is syclical perhaps a god of some form , which with both would still raise the question , where in the hell did they origionaly come from , alas i imagine our minds still see in far to linear terms to grasp this concept
on the other issue i thank you and conced the debate ,
;) first off , i would say debate is one of the best ways to formulate ideas, This is why i continue conversations such as these useually my opinion will change towards the end and more often than not so will the other persons to some extent .
.Though saying it is astronomically unlikely is a bit far from it ,The contrary has just as little basis for scientific opinion and thus is a religious belife untill we can garner some way of testing it either way , although if you care to enlighten me on any evidence against it i will be more than happy to hear it , likewise if anyone has any evidence for it (pure science not religious mumbo jumbo).
,
,switch genders around if you must , now we all know our current state of medical progresion is grand , but is yet to compare to the natural immune system . I could invision a slightly unlikly if terrible plauge(long incubation of say 6 months so it would not be noticed) , akin to the black death sweaping across the world (air passengers) leaving but a few people who suffer this disease and the carriers in a small country alive , whilst the rest of the world who sucesfully wiped both the good and bads parts of the condition from the face of the country and end up all being wiped out thanks to it (ok now im off to write a book). ,but untill we can fully understand the function of certain key genes i would say its a slim risk but one to consider, could be conter acted with a cataloug of genes from the said people and hormone or imuno therapy i would belive , but do these programs exist yet
;)
Over the issue of a soul , I have read many books on the issue and neither has persuaded me 100% either way
The sun revolving around the earth was held as scientific fact for a good long while because it seemed more likely , so for now im Making a schrödingers cat out of the issue.
Small scale testing may be ok , highly controled situations for about 10 years would be prudent i belive.
I do and have thought seriously over the issue for the last couple of days
and i am split on the issue . I think im changing why im against it though.
Here is a thought , take for example a condition that causes a serious birth defect in males , but these males are imune to a certain disease which arises some time after the introduction of said discriminatory birth methods(simmiler to sycle cell animea and maleria) or even just the cariers
Silly example i know and far fetched
anyway im no so against it as i was yesterday , i was in a rather bad mood
Yes , Did you not know that my lack of a criminal record and lack of police intrest means i am the most devious criminal mind to have ever been born
First off , i am not in any way religious ,;) perhaps a bit of a bleading heart liberal though . ,does it poses consciousness ,The moment i consider a Termination wrong is the moment it would develop its sence of self , When that is will require much more research but its safe to assume 3-4 months as a safty margin I would say. . . ,human cloning even . I just have grave doubts over this situation
I would never deny anyone the right to abortion , i may disagree with it but i would never stop it (this is how it should be , never force your belifes on other s)a foetus is a parasite , it definantly is alive the question is
I dont think we are here to debate the exitence of a soul , there is currently no real evidence either way , so untill i see some good research i will not comment on this . So right now it is possible that i may have been or may not have existed before birth and this is scientificaly a non debatble point.
I have no problem with natural selection , it has worked suprisingly well for a great length of time millions of years infact, and we have study genetics for neigh on 100 years , All i am thinking is we currently dont have the experiance in the field to start experimentation on this scale and need far more research
Illogic ? perhaps not , We do not know what impact this could have , sure if all people could be trusted to make wise logical decisions then yes wonderfull , but can they , it would be incredibly naive to think we could and wouldnt just make a larger mess of the whole situation
Right now if we can cure these conditions we will learn far more than if we were to wipe them out through selective impregnation.
I may be a bit soft sometimes(I dont have it in me to kill insects even) Though on this i do feel we do not have the experiance to know what may hapen (i know i know selective breading of animals )
I am however quite up for alot more small scale research and alot more research into cloning
Brilliant , im sure this will bring a smile to a fair few peoples faces
Time for my cats to download this to read, i belive ;) .What a load higerypogery MS spouts , i had yet to fully read over the said license fully when i posted that . .
The format is now in the wild though , and people in the USA can not legaly do bugger all with it , however people in russian could easily look at the code and some of that in a highly modified form may well slip into some projects
This is the exact same dangling carrot as with the MS source leaks , except this time it's not a conspiracy if they did it to try and entrap OSS (conspiracy theorys are fun). No this time they did it to try and get around an issue (same tactic they took with the EU , lets hope this backfires as badly) as it also seems like a nice way of screwing Open office over (or one of the many other projects which have the ability to read the format) if the code in any way resembles the MS code
This definantly needs submited to slashdot as a story.
Please do so i would feel awfull stealing your thunder and submiting it myself but this is rather hilarious hipocracy of the same ilk of "thou shalt not kill" and the crusades.
If they open up the format just enough so we can read it , it will be a nice enough start so we can officaly open the documents then save them as a fully open format. ,
As much as i would love them to be made to play fair and open the format fully
Opening it enough to make it easy to parse gives us all we need incase of the disapearence of word , or MS trying to force an upgrade by breaking compatability in some way.
First off i will apoligise as i have been on edge today , but starting your post by saying i have a sick mind is a good way for me to label you a troll.
. . . ,but by curing them .
;) ).
I strongly belive that the personality has a hell of alot to do with how your raised so yes , if i were to have been adopted i would be quite difrent to how i am today
I did used to study genetics before i decided to change my focus in life so my genetics is slightly limited
What you decide to do with it is largely based on the way your raised and the influences you have
I would love for no other Disabled children to ever suffer again , but not by selectivly enginering them out of society
"Where did you hear me advocate "artificially removing the people"? Sheesh, you really are obsessed with the idea! Not that I blame you, but please try to avoid jumping to unwarranted conclusion that everyone wants to kill you, ok?""
What else would you call selecting the birth to avoid a disability.
I am well aware you probably dont want to kill me and i dont think everyone wants to kill me (just the american gouvernment ((joke)))
However i naturaly take it personaly when you call me mentaly disturbed (effectivly) then suggest i may have been hapier not being born
Be carefull how you word things (i mess up on that front alot
After rereading it perhaps you are right ,i was perhaps reading too much into it , though the suggestion of "Like a game" got me on edge.
I think im just in a rather bad mood today so i apoligise if i am jumping down this doctors throat without cause
Excuse me ? Just one frigging moment ,you think im suffering in some way , or that my life has been a missery . ,but i would not be me. ,thank you very much . .Im sure he would love a healthy body , but he does not have one and having him not be born is not going to help him any is it , perhaps finding a cure to it .
Just as i have a disability
Yeah i would of been hapier without a disability
I would like a cure not extermination
Dr Hawkins does have a disability and selective breading would have ment he was not born , this is not an IF
as im very sure if you have a brother or sister that they are not exactly like you , Even if the genetic change they are doing is in changing the DNA of a specific cell thus a genetic sex change (its far more likely they are switching in another sperm) Girls and boys will have difrent lives you change due to your enviroments and experiance , inteligence is not pure genetics
I see no problem with genetic engenering to remove the problem gene and repairing it , though artificaly removing the people is sick .
What a total load of *explitive deleted* .
First up it does not matter one bit if the shooter immitated a game , if it had not of been a game it would of beena TV show , a relative , a historic event.
These people obviously sufferd from some serious problems , and if i were to take a few hours to research i could site many many cases of imitation of historical masacres , or copycat killers etc.
People will find someone to hold on to and they will use that
All this Doctorb(The b is for bar-stard)is doing is ridding to fame on a fad , a whitch hunt of media morality.
I doubt this is the last time ill state this on slashdot , there are always more of these idiots out in the wild
Ok first off this is just my opinion. ,then where does it end, what disability is an unaceptable condition . .
,given this option would have taken it and deprived the world of such a brilliant mind.
Even if it is for medical reasons , if you for some reason decide that you wish or need to ahve a child of sex A or B to avoid an illness
As a person who has a Form of disability myself I find this highly unnerving.
if you so badly fear a child with a disability then please dont have children or adopt , there are plenty of children who are suffering in underfunded, understaffed orphanages
Take pick up a cleche here , Do you think Steven Hawkins parents
Alas i belive in peoples right and freedom to decide and i dont want to be a hipocrit, so if it was to come up in a ballet i would allow it , But i would certainly avoid it like the plauge and tell anyone who asks what i thought of it (self censorship that is , take note Politicians , we dont need views forced upon us)
Possibly , but that does leave yourself open to problems with the current license and no possible get out claus , As i understand it the GPL can only be replaced with a license in the same vent as the origional , the only aditions allowed are to clear legal issues up such as the current international law issues.
This leaves the kernel vunerable to these problems , However i can see why it was done as the GNU FSF needs to clear this point far more and perhaps give stronger legal asurances that the license will and must remain in its current spirit
What is perhaps needed , is a GPL license license , Something to insure that the GPL must assure some basic freedoms and restrictions with the code (IE: copyleft).
This is perhaps needed to stop the GNU licenses ever going sour with these clauses
Infact i would hope that this already exists
Too true ,The reason it was licensed as GPL 2 explicitly is something i think that requires some investigation , as it may shed some light if this will be a major pain or not.
If anyone has any background please don't keep it to yourself
I would fathom a guess that it may have had to do witha flaw in GPL vs1 or fears about the changing nature of the GPL license but those are just guess
Correct me if im wrong , but is there not a list of kernel developers with contact info .It is good honest Office administration work ;) it would bore the hell out of me but it may be needed. ,as i would hate to see the same hapen with GPL 4.
Lets just hope we learn from this atleast
Though the point being , GPL3 only needs to work with GPL 2 , GPL 2 does not have to work with GPL 3 as such , the kernel and other projects could continue on with GPL 2 and new projects could stay with GPL3 and keep the GPL 2 licensed code GPL 2 licensed
Would this be so much of a problem , if so then i see that as a major flaw in the GPL v2 , if they are not avaliable to contact then i would move ahead witht he change and if they later contacted me and disagreed it could be removed , if they are dead then IANAL but would the copywright not either drop or pass to a family member
Hm i had not though of that , However will the vs 3 add restrictions as such or will they be safegaurds ,or explicit wording to ensure compatibility with international laws as i understand it
well it would be odd if they made it incompatible
((Joke)) unless ofcourse they are trying to crush linux for the glorius rise of HURD((/joke))
True enough , and witht he kernel that is alot of people ,However I think there will be little problem here . .The only problem will be caused if someone is trying to cause trouble , and if its just one person there code can be removed and replaced
As i understand it , the GPL v3 address major issues with international laws which is a benifit to us all , and im sure the kernel developers will see it this way (anyone out there who is a kernel dev please correct me if im wrong)
The license is problemeatic if people in say Belarus dont have to abide by it and can just take the code for their own