;) I do for some , but as who under what name , who knows
Indeed i thank you for clarifying my points as i have been extrodenerly vauge today (long story) And a derived work in my mind , is not a direct clone . I am extremly liberal , all i do ask is that people credit me however i think to be fair a derived work must apear difrent to the origional , it must seem to be a difrent work or even a remix, You can quote me , you can clip me , you can take a photo and plaster me on your wall , but please dont rip my work and shove an extra drum track on it or take a close up photo of the art and sell it as a print
Parent is obviously not Flamebait , And i will take the karma hit for being offtopic here, All he is stating is the fact that apple didnt rip off xerox and that the grandparent is obviously a bad troll if you want to read about the Xerox GUI and the money apple paid to study it and improvments that were made by apple enginers to the design then a quick google search on the topic will help enlighten
I would agree copyright laws are bad , however the spirit of copyright i see as good , as i really dont want people claim my work as their property , copyright gives me in my guise as an artist the right to share my work with people and keep it known that it is my work.also keeping the work free. If i spend a long time working on something i want peple to enjoy it , and maybe i have a slight ego , but i want people to know it was my work and i want them to look to me in the future if they need more of the same , not someone rebranding it and claming it as their work
Perhaps i should of made myself more clear as you really are allowed to take someones work under the gpl and use it with your own name , however you must abide by the copyleft , and not claim it all as your own code and keep your changes free If i wished to sell a version of Bash on cd called FISH (fidel shell) or something I could , but if i were to not make the source avaliable and totaly hide any referce to the GPL claming it was all my doing , then i would be breaking the terms . I do appoligise that my lack of clarity has caused you to go off on a rant about the GPL
you should take a long read through it someday , its good to know your rights
OK first off IP is broken down into three main areas comenly on slashdot
1:Patents - Mainly refering to software patents , or the ownership of an idea , most slashdoters are against this and rightly so , as it stiffels freedom
2: Trademarks - Can be both very usefull on one hand to stop cheap rip offs but also gets abused alot by companys (IE: why pentium is called pentium as intel tried to trademark a number )
3: copywright : also a two sided blade , abused alot in the DMCA which companys use to stop us enacting our rights to fair use , and used properly in the GNU GPL and Creative commens license which i hope i dont need to explain to people here
Ok i do dice over the issues , but IP is not just one thing , and in this case its totaly right to complain about people violating IP , its the copyright equivelent of identity theft( well close enough)
Yes Emulation is fine , Although Stealing someones work and claming it as your own work is unethical and illegal in the way that it violates PearPCs license . This is not a DMCA type nonsence Copyright issue , This is blatently rebranding someones work without permission and selling it as yourown. No matter how you feel about Intelectual property , This is immoral , unethical and illegal and rightly so
Longhorn is late, again / well it is.NET is bloated, confusing, and increases total cost of ownership./ I do not know about the TCO , but hell it is bloated
Internet Explorer is a collection of security holes waiting to be exploited. / yes it very much is a large mess
With Windows Update, Microsoft can alter your machines and do anything they want. Do you trust them with your corporate information? / Well any system could do the sameDebian for example , however Debian is not an organisation convicted of such anti competitive tactics and MS are , however i really doubt they would
Microsoft's licensing and DRM schemes become more of a headache with each new release./crippling migranes dont get much worse
Microsoft's obstacles to Java add costs for corporate customers. / I trust sun slightly more than microsoft as they have far far better support;) , FUD is by nature untrue
I know its bad form replying to my own post , however too late did i notice my keyboard was set to QWERTY as opposed to QWERTZ so the site i used was www.dictionary.com
journalism Audio pronunciation of "journalism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jûrn-lzm) n.
1. The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in newspapers and magazines and in radio and television broadcasts.
2. Material written for publication in a newspaper or magazine or for broadcast.
3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.
4. Newspapers and magazines.
5. An academic course training students in journalism.
6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal.
well acording to this , it both is and is not "6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal." under that deffinition it most certainlz would be , however i reallz disagree with that one , and im not sure but i belive it isnt in the cambridge or oxford dictionarys.
3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation...... That would rule out 99.9% of blogs and i feel it is how i see journalism as compared to editorialism "which most blogs seem to be"
However since the deffinition apears to be rather confused I do not know if this can be awnserd.
That is very true *hee* , Not to mention the fact that Firefox is quite poor on OS X , I still use it as my main browser though it has a great deal of room for improvment on the platform..I would use safari perminantly on OS X, but im very attached to adblock , mouse gestures and my tab options
Indeed , My old mac is a 400mhz Imac g3 DV se+, IIRC the first Imac with firewire I used to do alot of vidio editing on it , certainly not to profesional standerds , and it did take a while , Though the fact remains that it was more than what was needed to get the job done . Basicaly i am doing the same stuff i did on that 400mhz g3 that im now doing a 1.25ghz G4 based system with faster ram on a faster OS (I have 10.2 on the old machine) (Also on a side note Tiger will have 64bit code optimisations for the g5 chips and is due out soon as i saw you mention that earlyer)
you could digitally create more Chaplin films , but we really really shouldnt. Chaplins films were classics and should remain as such. If the studio redigitised them and shoved them on DVD,I would buy them without pause (infact i better check on amazon to see this has not already been done)
Also the marks brothers films were great The comedy stylings of Groucho , Teito and karl(sorry couldnt resist that joke) are also amongst my all time faviourits.
Some of the modern Slapstick couldnt even compare to the classics
Although , ? by now , wouldnt most of the chaplin films be beyond copywright at this point , so couldnt anyone do it.
Ill second that , due to the fact im sitting on my mac mini , editing a bit of vidio right now . It isnt perfect and i could probably have a faster enviroment for doing it , however the fact remains i can do it and is not painfull. fair enough i do have 512MB of RAM in the machine now , but it was fine with 256MB(well it worked) The speed is comparable , or quicker to my athlon xp-m 2400 barton based laptop if that makes for an easier comparison to you
Im sorry i must dispell this myth , The mac mini is fine with 256MB of ram,I just upgraded my mini to 512 as i like to do some design work on it and Adobe CS realy munches ram , however for Web browsing and email and some types of Development (i use nano and vi so that is perhaps a little cheat as anything could run those) 256MB is fine , so long as you dont have loads of programs running at once , but with a messenger program , a browser , an email client and text editor open then 256MB is fine , if you close a couple of things then image editing on a light scale is fine or even whatching a vidio while you do that . expose` also runs perfectly well so long as you dont flood your desktop with open windows.
with 512 everything is smoth as a button , and i can really start to keep things running , but the 256MB comment is nothing more than a myth
also not to mention the mini is near totaly silent , The design matches functionality with Build,(However opening it could have been easier with some minor adjustments).Anyone who says the machine is underpowerd is totaly missing the point of the computer. The only two areas i find it to be slightly lacking are , Games(although it plays halo rather well) and sound(due to a lack of an audio in , which could be sorted with some extra equipment). If you want to run a high powered server pushing more flops than the Grammys , then this isnt for you. If you want to be running your games at 1600*1280 with FFAA and anisotropic filtering , then this is not for you. If you want to be compressing GBs of vidio then you can find a better machine for that. However If you want a computer to work on , that is totaly silent , Comes with alot of good software,has OS X,Comes with great Dev tools, has the ability to run X apps along with native OS X and older Mac programs , you can if you wish run linux on it with a duel boot or so And finaly to have a Form factor which makes it wonderfully portable and easy to handle and gorgeous to look at , then this is the machine for you.
If intel pull off a simmilar machine , i will be impresed , say well done and see how it compares . right now though a plastic box is not impressing me,I no idea how much a machine like this from an intel partner company would cost, no clue if it will come with any software or if said machine will realy be as silent or powerfull.
So untill this is a real product and not a plastic case model i will reserve judgment on it
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I think this falls under the catogry of " fool for beliving it" And honestly i dont think i would shed a tear for a member of the KKK if they did that. This is one of these things , which is hard to word properly I have always belived that someone should stand up for what they belive in , but alot of people belive alot of silly things. However I feel more admiration for someone who will "Practice what they preach" or "Eat their own dog food" as the american saying goes i belive.
I should of made myself more clear,I do not feel the ends justify the means. Microsoft holds no moral highground here , and own far sillyer patents which they have held due to being able to keep the lawyers funded. I hate the idea of software patents , what i hate more is the fact that a corperation can buy justice , In this case i can see no good comming from either side achiving Victory also i do not see Microsoft changing their view on patents because of this , perhaps purchasing even more patents to assure this never hapens again. I will say one thing though,if software patents ever do come to europe i will be glad to do some jail time in protest of them. Also when i said i was aware they had said they wouldnt use it against OSS i did mean to add something along the lines of "till they are low on funds"
I am very conflicted here , I feel M$ are buying justice , however on the EOLAS issue i feel slightly conflicted . I am aware that they have said they wouldnt use the patent on any open source project , however i feel this patent is just as wrong as the other software patents. The position i see EOLAS in is of a lose/lose for the OSS world , if they win it stands to support the idea software patents are a good thing , if they lose then well its another bouht victory for microsoft
I should appoligise for the grammer/spelling.just got in from a dinner party and have had a little too much to drink,so my typing is worse than normal. However i feel so stronly about this issue i really felt like screaming hearing that yet again the powers that be,want to make part of my industry a scapegoat.
This has gotten out of hand , the scape goating and Buck passing mentality of these people is truely juvinile. First off , if you want to blame anyone for your children commiting crime , i would take a long hard look at yourself. Sure they may immitate a game , but if it had not of been the game it would of been a movie , a cartoon or even a book. I have played games like Grand theft auto , Counter strike, Manhunt , Eternal darkness and DOOM , I dont worship satan , i have a clean criminal record and have no urges to go out and car jack someone , paint Pentegrams on my forehead or blow people to bits(although if i had a rocket launcher and a clean sight at the RIAA offices...). Infact non of my freinds have , Im well beyond that age range now , but even when i was 12 or so , i used to play games that were just as violent , they were fun and still are. Children still play cops and robbers , or cowboys and indians,Run around shooting each other and playing dead,they have played these types of games in the plagrounds for years and will continue to , and these games simulat just as violent situations , yet we view them as more holesome. nothing new here , just some politians trying to ride there way to greater office on the back of a whitch hunt
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;) I do for some , but as who under what name , who knows
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Indeed i thank you for clarifying my points as i have been extrodenerly vauge today (long story)
And a derived work in my mind , is not a direct clone . I am extremly liberal , all i do ask is that people credit me
however i think to be fair a derived work must apear difrent to the origional , it must seem to be a difrent work or even a remix
You can quote me , you can clip me , you can take a photo and plaster me on your wall , but please dont rip my work and shove an extra drum track on it
or take a close up photo of the art and sell it as a print
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Parent is obviously not Flamebait , And i will take the karma hit for being offtopic here ,
All he is stating is the fact that apple didnt rip off xerox and that the grandparent is obviously a bad troll
if you want to read about the Xerox GUI and the money apple paid to study it and improvments that were made by apple enginers to the design then a quick google search on the topic will help enlighten
I would agree copyright laws are bad , however the spirit of copyright i see as good , as i really dont want people claim my work as their property , copyright gives me in my guise as an artist the right to share my work with people and keep it known that it is my work .also keeping the work free .
If i spend a long time working on something i want peple to enjoy it , and maybe i have a slight ego , but i want people to know it was my work and i want them to look to me in the future if they need more of the same , not someone rebranding it
and claming it as their work
Perhaps i should of made myself more clear
as you really are allowed to take someones work under the gpl and use it with your own name , however you must abide by the copyleft , and not claim it all as your own code and keep your changes free
If i wished to sell a version of Bash on cd called FISH (fidel shell) or something I could , but if i were to not make the source avaliable and totaly hide any referce to the GPL claming it was all my doing , then i would be breaking the terms . I do appoligise that my lack of clarity has caused you to go off on a rant about the GPL
you should take a long read through it someday , its good to know your rights
OK first off
IP is broken down into three main areas comenly on slashdot
1:Patents - Mainly refering to software patents , or the ownership of an idea , most slashdoters are against this and rightly so , as it stiffels freedom
2: Trademarks - Can be both very usefull on one hand to stop cheap rip offs but also gets abused alot by companys (IE: why pentium is called pentium as intel tried to trademark a number )
3: copywright : also a two sided blade , abused alot in the DMCA which companys use to stop us enacting our rights to fair use , and used properly in the GNU GPL and Creative commens license which i hope i dont need to explain to people here
Ok i do dice over the issues , but IP is not just one thing , and in this case its totaly right to complain about people violating IP , its the copyright equivelent of identity theft( well close enough)
Yes Emulation is fine , Although Stealing someones work and claming it as your own work is unethical and illegal in the way that it violates PearPCs license . This is not a DMCA type nonsence Copyright issue , This is blatently rebranding someones work without permission and selling it as yourown .
No matter how you feel about Intelectual property , This is immoral , unethical and illegal and rightly so
Longhorn is late, again / well it is .NET is bloated, confusing, and increases total cost of ownership./ I do not know about the TCO , but hell it is bloated
/crippling migranes dont get much worse
;) , FUD is by nature untrue
Internet Explorer is a collection of security holes waiting to be exploited. / yes
it very much is a large mess
With Windows Update, Microsoft can alter your machines and do anything they want. Do you trust them with your corporate information? / Well any system could do the sameDebian for example , however Debian is not an organisation convicted of such anti competitive tactics and MS are , however i really doubt they would
Microsoft's licensing and DRM schemes become more of a headache with each new release.
Microsoft's obstacles to Java add costs for corporate customers. / I trust sun slightly more than microsoft as they have far far better support
I know its bad form replying to my own post , however too late did i notice my keyboard was set to QWERTY as opposed to QWERTZ
so the site i used was www.dictionary.com
journalism Audio pronunciation of "journalism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jûrn-lzm)
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n.
1. The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in newspapers and magazines and in radio and television broadcasts.
2. Material written for publication in a newspaper or magazine or for broadcast.
3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.
4. Newspapers and magazines.
5. An academic course training students in journalism.
6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal.
well acording to this , it both is and is not "6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal." under that deffinition it most certainlz would be , however i reallz disagree with that one , and im not sure but i belive it isnt in the cambridge or oxford dictionarys
3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation...... That would rule out 99.9% of blogs and i feel it is how i see journalism as compared to editorialism "which most blogs seem to be"
However since the deffinition apears to be rather confused
I do not know if this can be awnserd
That is very true *hee* , Not to mention the fact that Firefox is quite poor on OS X , I still use it as my main browser though it has a great deal of room for improvment on the platform. .I would use safari perminantly on OS X, but im very attached to adblock , mouse gestures and my tab options
Indeed , My old mac is a 400mhz Imac g3 DV se+, IIRC the first Imac with firewire
I used to do alot of vidio editing on it , certainly not to profesional standerds , and it did take a while , Though the fact remains that it was more than what was needed to get the job done . Basicaly i am doing the same stuff i did on that 400mhz g3 that im now doing a 1.25ghz G4 based system with faster ram on a faster OS (I have 10.2 on the old machine)
(Also on a side note Tiger will have 64bit code optimisations for the g5 chips and is due out soon as i saw you mention that earlyer)
you could digitally create more Chaplin films , but we really really shouldnt. . ,I would buy them without pause (infact i better check on amazon to see this has not already been done)
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Chaplins films were classics and should remain as such
If the studio redigitised them and shoved them on DVD
Also the marks brothers films were great
The comedy stylings of Groucho , Teito and karl(sorry couldnt resist that joke) are also amongst my all time faviourits.
Some of the modern Slapstick couldnt even compare to the classics
Although , ? by now , wouldnt most of the chaplin films be beyond copywright at this point , so couldnt anyone do it
Ill second that , due to the fact im sitting on my mac mini , editing a bit of vidio right now . It isnt perfect and i could probably have a faster enviroment for doing it , however the fact remains i can do it and is not painfull .
fair enough i do have 512MB of RAM in the machine now , but it was fine with 256MB(well it worked)
The speed is comparable , or quicker to my athlon xp-m 2400 barton based laptop
if that makes for an easier comparison to you
Im sorry i must dispell this myth , The mac mini is fine with 256MB of ram ,I just upgraded my mini to 512 as i like to do some design work on it and Adobe CS realy munches ram , however for Web browsing and email and some types of Development (i use nano and vi so that is perhaps a little cheat as anything could run those) 256MB is fine , so long as you dont have loads of programs running at once , but with a messenger program , a browser , an email client and text editor open then 256MB is fine , if you close a couple of things then image editing on a light scale is fine or even whatching a vidio while you do that . expose` also runs perfectly well so long as you dont flood your desktop with open windows .
with 512 everything is smoth as a button , and i can really start to keep things running , but the 256MB comment is nothing more than a myth
also not to mention the mini is near totaly silent , The design matches functionality with Build ,(However opening it could have been easier with some minor adjustments) .Anyone who says the machine is underpowerd is totaly missing the point of the computer. ,has OS X,Comes with great Dev tools, has the ability to run X apps along with native OS X and older Mac programs , you can if you wish run linux on it with a duel boot or so And finaly to have a Form factor which makes it wonderfully portable and easy to handle and gorgeous to look at , then this is the machine for you .
,I no idea how much a machine like this from an intel partner company would cost, no clue if it will come with any software or if said machine will realy be as silent or powerfull .
The only two areas i find it to be slightly lacking are , Games(although it plays halo rather well) and sound(due to a lack of an audio in , which could be sorted with some extra equipment).
If you want to run a high powered server pushing more flops than the Grammys , then this isnt for you.
If you want to be running your games at 1600*1280 with FFAA and anisotropic filtering , then this is not for you.
If you want to be compressing GBs of vidio then you can find a better machine for that.
However If you want a computer to work on , that is totaly silent , Comes with alot of good software
If intel pull off a simmilar machine , i will be impresed , say well done and see how it compares . right now though a plastic box is not impressing me
So untill this is a real product and not a plastic case model i will reserve judgment on it
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I think this falls under the catogry of " fool for beliving it"
And honestly i dont think i would shed a tear for a member of the KKK if they did that.
This is one of these things , which is hard to word properly
I have always belived that someone should stand up for what they belive in , but alot of people belive alot of silly things
However I feel more admiration for someone who will "Practice what they preach" or "Eat their own dog food" as the american saying goes i belive.
I should of made myself more clear ,I do not feel the ends justify the means. . ,if software patents ever do come to europe i will be glad to do some jail time in protest of them.
Microsoft holds no moral highground here , and own far sillyer patents which they have held due to being able to keep the lawyers funded.
I hate the idea of software patents , what i hate more is the fact that a corperation can buy justice , In this case i can see no good comming from either side achiving Victory
also i do not see Microsoft changing their view on patents because of this , perhaps purchasing even more patents to assure this never hapens again
I will say one thing though
Also when i said i was aware they had said they wouldnt use it against OSS i did mean to add something along the lines of "till they are low on funds"
As i do not belive that MS are winning on the grounds that they are right to do so, i feel they are winning by throwing money at the case.
I am very conflicted here , I feel M$ are buying justice , however on the EOLAS issue i feel slightly conflicted . I am aware that they have said they wouldnt use the patent on any open source project , however i feel this patent is just as wrong as the other software patents. /lose for the OSS world , if they win it stands to support the idea software patents are a good thing , if they lose then well its another bouht victory for microsoft
The position i see EOLAS in is of a lose
You may be a fool for beliving it , but your not a fool for standing up for it .
I should appoligise for the grammer /spelling .just got in from a dinner party and have had a little too much to drink ,so my typing is worse than normal. ,want to make part of my industry a scapegoat.
However i feel so stronly about this issue i really felt like screaming hearing that yet again the powers that be
You are never a fool if you stand up for something you belive in .
This has gotten out of hand , the scape goating and Buck passing mentality of these people is truely juvinile . ...). . ,Run around shooting each other and playing dead ,they have played these types of games in the plagrounds for years and will continue to , and these games simulat just as violent situations , yet we view them as more holesome.
First off , if you want to blame anyone for your children commiting crime , i would take a long hard look at yourself.
Sure they may immitate a game , but if it had not of been the game it would of been a movie , a cartoon or even a book.
I have played games like Grand theft auto , Counter strike, Manhunt , Eternal darkness and DOOM , I dont worship satan , i have a clean criminal record and have no urges to go out and car jack someone , paint Pentegrams on my forehead or blow people to bits(although if i had a rocket launcher and a clean sight at the RIAA offices
Infact non of my freinds have , Im well beyond that age range now , but even when i was 12 or so , i used to play games that were just as violent , they were fun and still are
Children still play cops and robbers , or cowboys and indians
nothing new here , just some politians trying to ride there way to greater office on the back of a whitch hunt