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Microsoft Robots to Watch Kids

Archangel Michael writes "Microsoft announced today that is testing a new toy / robot to watch over kids. My question is, if the toy BSOD does it take the kid with it? Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?"

544 comments

  1. Sounds like Awesomo! by iolaus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Awesomo loves you!

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    1. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by puiahappy · · Score: 1

      Awesomo is the best, but if Micro$oft make`s a fake robot just as Cartman was i think i`d be ordering one just for my own fun but definitly keep it away from my kid :)

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    2. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

      Forget Awesomo. What about the glowing box in the living room? "Raising Children Since the 50's" (tm)

    3. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      I don't want any robot from Microsoft in my house. I have a hard enough time justifying OSes from Microsoft. Now, if it looked like this, I might not complain all that much. :)

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    4. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS/2 has taken over from TV. Now instead of just mindlessly staring at sex and violence, your kids can participate in it.

    5. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      It reminds me of Robositter from ATHF.. let's just hope it doesn't come equipped with rotary saws for hands.

    6. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't want any robot from Microsoft in my house. I have a hard enough time justifying OSes from Microsoft.

      If you don't pay for the TeddyOS upgrades, he turns into 'Chucky'.

    7. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 0

      Now, also available in a "pleasure model" ...damn I love south park...

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    8. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moderate parent as insigtful.
      Awesomo.

    9. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the kids will be the first to hack it.

    10. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1
      Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!
      I think we've being doing that since 80's, when Commodore 64 appeared
    11. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by st1d · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think a lot of these "parents" could save themselves a few bucks. The little curtain climbers are already stoned out of their mind on Class II narcotics for their "ADHD", so instead of spending the money on a "robot", they should just get the kid a blacklight, lava lamp and and Pink Floyd boxed set, and the kid will be all set till they hit their mid-20s. :)

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    12. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by frankenbox · · Score: 1

      I'd like mine to be wrappppped in silicone!!!

    13. Re:Sounds like Awesomo! by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Actually, considering most robots move, we would be having animated objects raise our kids.

      Mycroft

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  2. Just wait... by Mz6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...until it gets viruses and spyware.

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    1. Re:Just wait... by slavik1337 · · Score: 3, Funny

      New source of child porn? >.>

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    2. Re:Just wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will end only when our children really are forced 'collective' members of the organization suggested by Bill's Slashdot icon...

    3. Re:Just wait... by RangerRick98 · · Score: 1

      Just wait until it gets viruses and spyware.

      Gives new meaning to the concept of "bot network," doesn't it?

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    4. Re:Just wait... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1
      New source of child porn?
      What is truly disturbing is that I can find at least two meanings of that phrase...
    5. Re:Just wait... by themba · · Score: 1

      ... and does this

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  3. reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are MircoSoft. You will be assimilated.

    1. Re:reminds me of... by mirko · · Score: 1

      You're not my Soft, sorry and I won' assimilate this !

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  4. Umm... by Quaoar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless this "robot" is a block of cheese, it's probably going to be fairly animate.

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    1. Re:Umm... by mattmentecky · · Score: 1

      Courtesy of dictionary.com emphasis mine:

      animate
      tr.v. animated, animating, animates

      adj. (n-mt)

      1. Possessing life; living. See Synonyms at living.
      2. Of or relating to animal life as distinct from plant life.
      3. Belonging to the class of nouns that stand for living things: The word dog is animate; the word car is inanimate.

    2. Re:Umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The word dog is animate; the word car is inanimate.


      I believe you are falling into a type/token mismatch here. Words, like "dog" and "car" are definitely inanimate.

      Dumbass.
    3. Re:Umm... by flumps · · Score: 1

      So Mickey Mouse is alive?!? May God have mercy on our souls..

      tr.v. animated, animating, animates

      1. To give life to; fill with life.
      2. To impart interest or zest to; enliven: "The party was animated by all kinds of men and women" (René Dubos).
      3. To fill with spirit, courage, or resolution; encourage. See Synonyms at encourage.
      4. To inspire to action; prompt.
      5. To impart motion or activity to.
      6. To make, design, or produce (a cartoon, for example) so as to create the illusion of motion.

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    4. Re:Umm... by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. which standard reply should I use?

      1. I for one welcome our new block of cheese overlords?

      2. In Soviet Russia blocks of cheese animate *you*?

      3. But will this block of cheese run linux?

    5. Re:Umm... by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 1

      As long as you've got that dictionary out, you might want to look up the difference between adjectives and transitive verbs.

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    6. Re:Umm... by nametaken · · Score: 1


      You were modded funny, but I'd really worry about this if its using current wifi technology.

    7. Re:Umm... by flumps · · Score: 1

      However, we are talking about an "robot" that can move (or animate its self) which is incorrectly described as "inanimate".

      "... letting our children be brought up by inanimate objects.."

      The robot can move, and therefore in the sentence "the robot can become animated" the word "animated" IS a transitive verb as it acts on the object "robot".

      So saying the robot is animate but not alive is perfectly valid.

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  5. perspective please by selderrr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    You mean "as opposed to the warm and healthy TV-education kids have been raised by in the past 15 years" ? At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside.

    Stop seeing everything so negative

    1. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errrr ..... ummm - TV has been around for a half century (slightly more on a mass scale) ..... so the 1st gen of TV kids were actually from the 60's.

    2. Re:perspective please by Richie1984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside.

      I feel the more important point is that no amount of television or 'nanny robots' can protect a child, and also help along its development, as well as genuine parental interaction, or general human interaction.

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    3. Re:perspective please by imag0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside...

      yeah. What you going to do? chain your kid to the robot and spring for the extra nice mag wheels to drag the little fecker into the "big blue room" on command?

    4. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, but something is better than nothing. Is it better to lock a kid in a room with or with out toys?

    5. Re:perspective please by alsta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or how about not buying one for little Poot if you don't trust it or want it?

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    6. Re:perspective please by jerzee · · Score: 1

      Have you seem the terrible movie called AI? ....Teddy?

    7. Re:perspective please by VikingDBA · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunatly, given the way some people raise their kids, a nannybot may be a big improvement.

    8. Re:perspective please by SenFo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "You mean "as opposed to the warm and healthy TV-education kids have been raised by in the past 15 years" ? At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside.

      Stop seeing everything so negative"


      TV shows did not raise me. My mother did. TV shows were simply a form of entertainment and in no way a replacement for time spent with a human.

      Call it being "negative" if you want, but I think your naive. Besides, a Microsoft robot? Come on!

    9. Re:perspective please by varkman · · Score: 1

      indeed. Also i fail to see the step between 'announcing robots to watch childeren' and 'robots raising childeren'. Seriously, if you want to bash microsoft, do it on a basis of FACTS,and not your fantasy.

    10. Re:perspective please by KtHM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's better to actually be a parent.

      Come on, don't have kids unless you're gonna take care of them.

    11. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back then, we only had 2 or 3 channels. We had to walk up hill, both ways, through snow, to change the channel. And, we LIKED IT!

    12. Re:perspective please by strider44 · · Score: 1

      I think that Microsoft shouldn't be able to call it a robot if it's inanimate. But that aside, I don't think should even be considered as a full replacement for a parent, and may even be extremely bad for the wellbeing of a child.

    13. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But your parent is an anonymous coward!

    14. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, but something is better than nothing. Is it better to lock a kid in a room with or with out toys?

      If you need to do that, I don't really think you're in a social situation to be able to handle raising kids.

    15. Re:perspective please by orpx · · Score: 0

      with her magic wand

    16. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, although I don't like how some get kids if they can't even raise them well...

      Wee, let's get a kid. Oh, neither you nor me can take time off work to raise our child? Ah what the hell, that'll sort itself out somehow, let's get one anyway! It would be so fun!

    17. Re:perspective please by WhatsAProGingrass · · Score: 1

      Now instead of blaming Grand Theft Auto and Walmart for you kid going off and shooting cops for fun. They can blame the Robot Teddy Bear from Microsoft.

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    18. Re:perspective please by KeystoneAdvantage · · Score: 1

      Exactly: Nothing New

    19. Re:perspective please by Vaystrem · · Score: 1

      "At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside."

      But how will the Microsoft made robot react when it looks straight up on a cloudless day to the very large blue screen of death?

    20. Re:perspective please by SunFan · · Score: 1


      Actually, the robot sounds like a creepy teddy bear that probably won't want to go outside.

      And what was that blurb about letting the plumber into the house? Is this the "lonely housewife" feature?

      Robots can be useful, but we shouldn't be pushing too many things that allow parents to further de-commit themselves from their children.

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    21. Re:perspective please by ShecoDu · · Score: 0

      No, MY parent is an anoymous coward.

    22. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if two kids get in a fight? Do their robot nannies go at it?

    23. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop seeing everything so negative

      Are you new here?

    24. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You had TV? Lucky! I had to walk up hill, both ways, through snow, IN THE DARK, to get a rock I'd pretend was a toy truck.

      And, I LIKED IT!

    25. Re:perspective please by jangobongo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least this robot might create the opportunity to go play outside.

      Looking these threads makes me wonder if anyone actually reads the article (and no, I'm not new here, I know that few do).

      This is about a teddy bear that sits in the corner. The only thing that moves on it is its head. Not much of a robot! It doesn't appear to do anything more than act as an interface so that a parent could observe and possibly communicate with the child through VOIP.

      This would never replace a human. It's more of a comfort accessory for both the child and the parent when they are seperated, whether in seperate rooms or if the child is in childcare while the parent is at work. Clearly not a substitute for adult supervision.

      It all boils down to being just another fancy baby monitior.

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    26. Re:perspective please by satanami69 · · Score: 1

      My CHILD is an AC too.

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    27. Re:perspective please by serutan · · Score: 1

      Maybe you didn't read the article... This isn't really a "robot," it's just a glorified baby monitor wrapped in a bear. The bear doesn't actually do anything.

    28. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TV shows didn't rare me either...
      now lets forget all our trouble with a bowl of strawberry icecream!

      Wonder if its also a Grammer checking bot like linguo...

      "Linguo IS Dead."

    29. Re:perspective please by lgw · · Score: 2, Funny

      You had a ROCK? Lucky bastard! I had to walk up hill, both ways, through the snow to get snow, and it melted before I could pretend it was a truck, and I LIKED IT!

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    30. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just give the robot big claws, glowing red eyes, and a really sinister laugh. That'll send them frolicking out the front door in no time.

    31. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No I am not!

      Oh, wait

    32. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For kids in our unionized public school system, the difference will be insignificant. Meat or silicon, if you're just filling a time slot you're merely another part of the problem.

    33. Re:perspective please by fyoder · · Score: 1
      I feel the more important point is that no amount of television or 'nanny robots' can protect a child

      The US military are working on a project that has sufficient weaponry to protect a child. Perhaps a joint project with them would produce a nannybot with sufficient fire power.

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    34. Re:perspective please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on, don't have kids unless you're gonna take care of them.

      How true...

      Every time I derive a child, I make sure that I fill in the proper functionality instead of just leaving it as a stub.

  6. The horror! by Richie1984 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The teddy bear sitting in the corner of the child's room might look normal, until his head starts following the kid around using a face recognition program

    Does anyone else think that this could be the scariest thing ever? Especially if they make a clown version?

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    1. Re:The horror! by C0d1ngM0nk3y · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hehe....

      'Can't sleep, clown will eat me....!'

    2. Re:The horror! by theWrkncacnter · · Score: 1
      Does anyone else think that this could be the scariest thing ever? Especially if they make a clown version?

      YES. I'm having nightmares about it already.

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    3. Re:The horror! by netman12 · · Score: 5, Funny
      perhaps also allowing a parent talk to the child through a special phone, or monitor the child via a camera and wireless Internet connection.

      And at 2am the child wakes up screaming, after someone hacked into the robot and played a recording of Chucky?

    4. Re:The horror! by dAzED1 · · Score: 1
      yeah, I can see this producing some pretty messed-up kids.

      Imagine if the head spun around 360 degrees every once in a while, at random? That would be even better...

    5. Re:The horror! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Just whatever you do, never never install the Shining theme pack on it, m'kay?

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    6. Re:The horror! by sandstorming · · Score: 1

      Clowns I could deal with... A teddy bear Bill Gates beady eyes following me I could not...

    7. Re:The horror! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      I thought I was the only one who finds clowns scary! They used to terrify me as a kid, and that was way before "It" came out. Luckily my Uncle Marvo taught me how to put them in their place.

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    8. Re:The horror! by Ed+Avis · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, children play with toys!

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    9. Re:The horror! by mzwaterski · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can't sleep, clown will eat me...

      Can't sleep, clown will eat me...

    10. Re:The horror! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Especially if they make a clown version?

      And this would differ from everything else they make, how?

    11. Re:The horror! by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else think that this could be the scariest thing ever? Especially if they make a clown version?

      Yes, and you don't need the clown version. You should see Akira sometime...

    12. Re:The horror! by eihab · · Score: 1

      You know what's really scary about this?

      ...perhaps also allowing a parent talk to the child through a special phone, or monitor the child via a camera and wireless Internet. connection

      Now considering Microsoft's security record, how will I know if such a thing can be cracked into?

      What guarantees that the person viewing,hearing and talking to my kid(s) is me?

      What if one day I walk home to find my kid striking a pose in front of the teddy bear's web camera because his/her "Teddy Bear" told him/her so?

      There are some sick people out there, and the last thing I would want is to give them easy access to my (one day to have) children...

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    13. Re:The horror! by aschlemm · · Score: 1

      Oh I hope it's not like that teddy bear that the Peter Weller character throws into the spaceship pod with him in the movie "Screamers"...

    14. Re:The horror! by WoBIX · · Score: 1

      Funny, but imagine some really ugly possibilities.

      "Hello Jimmy, would you do me a favor and unlock the front door? That's a good boy."

      or

      "I bet you can't set fire to the curtains. Double dog dare you!"

  7. agh by c0dedude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was wondering how long until a terrible BSOD joke, then I realized IT'S IN THE FUCKING POST! It's not funny anymore, folks! Let the dead horse rest in peace.

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    1. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not the BHOD (blue horse), it's the BSOD (blue screen). Let the dead screen rest in peace :-)

    2. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's teh funnay on teh Micro$loth!!!1!one
      Get it!?? BSOD jokes on teh Intarweb r L334!

    3. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?

      Since the chuckleheads that call themselves that started calling themselves that and believing it. The rest of us use it in a sarcastic fashion. It generally is used to indicate someone who is in fact *not* 'intellectually elite', whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

    4. Re:agh by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Let the dead horse rest in peace.

      And most certainly don't shoot it in the mouth...

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    5. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You just don't get blue humor.

    6. Re:agh by CoderBob · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can I beat it with a stick?

    7. Re:agh by Tekzel · · Score: 1, Funny

      Since when is the BSOD a dead horse? Its a evil satanic horse, but a living one, with glowing red eyes, just waiting to eat your data.

    8. Re:agh by ExtraT · · Score: 1

      Who told you that BSOD is dead? It's alive and kicking! It's just that XP by default doesn't let you see it for very long - but it's definetly there.

    9. Re:agh by Goaway · · Score: 1

      I think this article is actually some sort of pastiche of the archetypal Slashdot post.

    10. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      > Let the dead horse rest in peace.

      This comming from a wanker with a lame-ass 'leet' name.

    11. Re:agh by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      The number of times i've BSOD'd XP. I've lost count. But it's definitely fewer than on 2k and 98. Of course, I've also crashed Dos, Linux, Macs and a standalone DVD player once. Come to think of it, the only OS I haven't crashed is Sun's Solaris and OSX. Course, I haven't had much time on them yet

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    12. Re:agh by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      when Billy can showcase a new product at a tech event without getting a BSOD or equivelant then we will stop with the BSOD jokes.

      Sides, we all know it is just cause we are envious of Bill and his money.

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    13. Re:agh by josh2112 · · Score: 0

      That's OK, someone will put Linux on it and have it kernel panicking before long.

    14. Re:agh by sootman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dead horse? This is a Microsoft thread, not a BSD one. :-)

      Besides, this isn't just old news. It still happens.

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    15. Re:agh by M0nkfish · · Score: 1

      From the dilbert cartoon series:

      Boss: There's no point in killing a dead horse.
      Dilbert: Why would anyone kill a *dead* horse?
      Boss: It might kick you.
      Dilbert: ITS DEAD!
      Boss: And so is every person that used our product.

    16. Re:agh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of those USB wireless network devices. That gave me BSODs on XP. It was the only thing that did.

  8. Yeah, yeah, just a repeat of the AI plot... by adzoox · · Score: 1

    Yeah, yeah .... and in 10,000 years he'll pull out a strand of David's mother's hair and the aliens will briefly recreate his mother so he can be a real boy for a few hours ... Man, /. stories are just repeats from the past or repeats of the inevitable future nowadays.

    (Teddy from the movie with Haley Joel Osment: AI: Artificial Intelligence)

    Microsoft Robot is a Teddy Bear

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    1. Re:Yeah, yeah, just a repeat of the AI plot... by iibbmm · · Score: 0

      Actually, the 'beings' at the end were advanced robotic lifeforms that evolved from the robots in Davids era, hence their ability to 'read' his memory. Don't worry, a lot of dumb people didn't get it.

    2. Re:Yeah, yeah, just a repeat of the AI plot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was debateable ... your theory was the LEAST accepted.

      There are dozens of websites that debate what they were - I think the most accepted is that they were aliens. Why would robots that once coexisted with humans not ALREADY have an archive of human history? Why were the excavating?

    3. Re:Yeah, yeah, just a repeat of the AI plot... by iibbmm · · Score: 0

      You missed the point of the ending. The future robots 'rebuilt' Davids mother with a blank brain, no thoughts, an empty shell, just as humans had built David 2000 years prior.

  9. Microsoft...? by Squall2131 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Do we really want to trust our kids with a robot thats running microsoft code...?

  10. Linux by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I give it two months before someone can boot Linux on it, and in 6 months they could do it without needing to solder...

    1. Re:Linux by Mikey-San · · Score: 4, Funny

      I give it two months before someone can boot Linux on it [. . .]

      So not only will the child have dependencies on her teddy bear, but the teddy bear will have dependencies of its own?

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    2. Re:Linux by clickety6 · · Score: 1

      .. and I give it two yeats to develop aritifical intelligence and boot itself into Linux :-)

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    3. Re:Linux by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 1

      I give it 36 hours before some nerd has it talking dirty to him, wearing a dress and too much make-up. Urgh.

      And after 36:01, after one minute of loving, the robot will become self aware - and you know how it goes. It doesn't end well for the humans.

    4. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I give it two months before it got infected with malwares and start peddling Viagra and kinky pr0n to your children or ways to make easy money fast. So, either your children grow up like a sex maniac or a con artist.

    5. Re:Linux by ajlitt · · Score: 0

      "Hello, my name is Teddy and I pronounce Linux as 'Linux'"

  11. Ha! by Quasar1999 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Nothing new, innate objects, such as TV have been raising generations of kids... now it's moved on to the computer...

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    1. Re:Ha! by locutus2k · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Granted, but I don't think your TV is about to blue screen and become a remorseless killing machine with a taste for young children... (just a caffeine deprived thought)

  12. BSOD by nmg196 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are there always the inevitable jokes about BSODs? They're from like, Windows 95 or 98 which is now at least 7 years old. I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER - and use it all day every day in many different capacities as a software developer.

    I know it's physically capable of a BSOD, but really, has anyone ever seen XP or 2000 SP3 actually BSOD on a regular basis. My experience is that XP itself is incredibly stable. Infinitely more so than 95 or 98.

    1. Re:BSOD by igorthefiend · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, I see it on a regular basis because my piece of shit Audigy 2 card has the "screech of death" problem which results in bluescreen goodness even under XP. Oh, deep joy.

    2. Re:BSOD by patches · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually I have. Both 2000 and XP, both of which were the Pro version. I have to say that I believe the problem was that I had hardware problems on my motherboard, but I have seen both OSes BSOD on a regular basis...

      Patrick

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    3. Re:BSOD by millwall · · Score: 5, Funny

      "My experience is that XP itself is incredibly stable.

      Congratulations on getting a post that included this sentence to be modded "Informative" :-)

    4. Re:BSOD by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Only if the computer itself sucks, yes. But we already know where the problem lies there, right?

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    5. Re:BSOD by tyresyas · · Score: 1, Informative

      Why the jokes? Because people get them. All the time. I find it odd as a developer that you've never made an error where OS didn't eventually just go, "Oh, for f***'s sake." If you've ever had a driver that wasn't written just perfect, you have definitely seen the dreaded BSoD

    6. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Windows 2000 was easier to get to BSOD than even the first Windows 95, or (shudder) Win32s.

      C:\> ping localhost [enter] [F7] [enter] [f7] [enter] [f7] [enter]

      STOP CONDITION...

      Not fixed until SP4 (or was it 6?)...

      But yeah, I haven't seen XP BSOD without turning off "immidiately reboot on crash" either :-)

    7. Re:BSOD by Quarters · · Score: 1

      That's interesting. I've had an Audigy 2 card in an XP box for close to 18 months and I've never had it screech or BSOD.

    8. Re:BSOD by Vollernurd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then you, sir, are using the wrong Screensaver.

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    9. Re:BSOD by fizze · · Score: 5, Informative

      Windows-XP has a "feature" (???) with which it is possible to manually crash a system by simply holding the right CTRL key and pressing the "Scroll Lock" key twice. This feature can be turned on by the following steps:

      1. Start regedit. (If you are unfamiliar with regedit, please refer to this FAQ)
      2. Navigate to:
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\S ervic es\i8042prt\Parameters
      3. Create a new DWORD value and name it CrashOnCtrlScroll
      4. Right-click on this newly created value and click on Modify
      5. Enter 1 in the Value data field and click on OK.
      6. Close regedit and reboot your system.
      7. Now you can blue screen (crash) your system by holding the right CTRL key and pressing "Scroll Lock" twice.

      Note:

      Your system may reboot or show a blue screen whenever this crash is initiated. If your system reboots after initiating the crash, and you want to see the blue screen, follow these steps:

      1. Go to Control Panel > System
      2. Click on the Advanced tab
      3. Under Startup and Recovery, click the Settings button.
      4. Under System failure, uncheck the option Automatically restart.

      Happy crashing...

      cudos to http://www.tweakxp.com/article140073.aspx

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    10. Re:BSOD by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 1, Informative

      You sir, are an idiot. I got a Toshiba Satellite A70 yesterday. It came with WinXP home. I promptly installed Win2k3 Server. After installing the ATI graphical drivers I got BSODs several times (before the Ctrl-Alt-Del box would appear).

      I'm a Linux user, and I have had blue screens on every Win OS between 95 and Win2k3 Server. Win 3 used to just freeze or drop back to DOS.

    11. Re:BSOD by RealRoadKill · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I've seen windows 2000 BSOD.. so let the jokes continue.

    12. Re:BSOD by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1

      About twice a month my laptop BSODs on me. XP (home edition), fully up to date according Update.

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    13. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Why are there always the inevitable jokes about BSODs?

      That's what inevitable means.

    14. Re:BSOD by camcorder · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER...
      Because Microsoft replaced the technology on win 2k and xp with Gray Screen of Shutdown.

    15. Re:BSOD by bairy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You sir, are an idiot

      You can hardly personally insult on someone based on their opinion of something.
      In reality, a lot of 2000 and XP systems are pretty stable, and certainly don't BSOD enough for it to be called "regular" which is the point he was making.
      Is everyone who holds such a valid opinion "an idiot"?

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    16. Re:BSOD by gt_swagger · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have seen 2000 BSOD on a regularly basis, including (funny enough) three times in a row trying to install the damn thing.

      If you want BSOD bonus points, walk into an airport terminal and wait for the ticking time bomb to explode.

      And please, if you mention BSOD, don't forget the grand poobah of BSOD, Windows ME -- the piece of fecal matter pushed on me by Compaq that led to me switching to Linux.

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    17. Re:BSOD by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Informative

      XPs default action is a blue screen is to reboot or so I've heard. I don't use XP so I don't know for sure but several people have said.

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    18. Re:BSOD by 3vi1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I guess all those XP + Blue screen articles at support.microsoft.com are made up. I've never seen one either... except three or four times.

      Try this: upgrade your motherboard to one with a better/different chipset. When you do, you're likely to get the dreaded 0x0000007b error. Microsoft's solution? RE-INSTALL! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb; en-us;Q316401

      This didn't have to happen to me but twice before I decided reinstalls/reactivation sucks and Linux was a better place to be.

    19. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER

      Chances are, that's because it's configured by default to automatically reboot instead of showing you the BSOD. There's a setting somewhere that lets you switch the auto reboot off.

    20. Re:BSOD by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Funny
      has anyone ever seen XP or 2000 SP3 actually BSOD on a regular basis.

      yes.

      My experience is that XP itself is incredibly stable. Infinitely more so than 95 or 98.

      A three legged stool with one leg missing and a bad woodworm infestation standing on the back of an enraged bull being sodomised with a cheese grater in an earthquake zone is more stable than 98 or 95.

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    21. Re:BSOD by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have. These are stories from XP: I used to get a BSOD when playing a certain game, which I'm assuming is caused by the laptop overheating. It would blue screen, give an IRQ_LESS_THAN or something like that error, and then reboot. Constantly. Also, I just met someone who has a top-of-the-line Alienware with some insane stats and STILL upon loading Doom 3 or loading a saved game of Doom 3, he will get a BSOD. It happens every other time, REGULARLY.

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    22. Re:BSOD by g0hare · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but only with bad hardware (one of the two processors was bad). Also with a bad memory chip. Otherwise - no. Of course I only support 12 servers and 200 XP workstations, that might not be a large enough sample.

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    23. Re:BSOD by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You sir, are trying to install ATI Mobility drivers which are only provided by the computer manufacturer. If you have issues with the video drivers, take it up with Toshiba. I'm surprised they're even providing 2k3 drivers. HP seems to only offer XP drivers, which means we had to scrap a perfectly good laptop for our Windows 2000-only environment back in 2003 during a desert deployment I had in the Air Force.

      By the way, has Toshiba improved at all within the last couple of years? I've seen nothing but shitty laptops from them which don't have the ability to smooth stretch non-native resolutions, are only able to access BIOS setup features through a Windows-only frontend and seem to have no ability to do hardware-accelerated full motion video (which has been part of most PCs' video hardware since 1996).

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    24. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He presented his material as "fact", when clearly he is either lying, or thinks a BSOD is a web page with

      body { background-color:#0000ff; color:#ffffff; font-weight:bold; }

      In other words... clueless.

      It is extremely naive to say XP/2K3 never blue-screens. Yes, I am a software developer like him too. Now fsck off.

    25. Re:BSOD by dAzED1 · · Score: 1
      my roommate gets them in XP quite often, yes. For the layman/woman, it is more stable than 95/98 - obviously. But its far from "incredibly stable," esp when the standard fix for windows is problems is *still* rebooting. Printer doesn't work? Reboot. Want to install the latest patches? Reboot 10 times. Not picking up an ip? Reboot. Blah, etc...then there's the recommended "maintenance reboot" that is still performed quite often in windows server farms.

      The issue is far from over.

    26. Re:BSOD by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      Yes and I hated every moment of it :(

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    27. Re:BSOD by DrXym · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well then you're in a small minority. While it is true that W2K / XP do not crash anywhere near as much as 95/98, they do crash and much more frequently than OS X or Linux.

      I'd say on average I get one or two BSODs in a month. Mostly this is driver related (e.g. Nvidia + HL2), but I have instances where the machine has blue screened for no apparant reason whatsoever. The machine was under some kind of load, e.g. a compiler + some apps and then *poof* it blue screened with some kind of NTOSKRNL exception. Considering that I reboot my machine everyday so that it never runs for more than 16 hours, I'd say this is pretty poor. And yes my box is service packed, drivers are up to date etc. etc.

      OS X isn't perfect either, but in the two years and several iterations of 10.x, I've only seen two panics. Panics on Linux have been rarer than hens teeth. The only time I've seen that crash at all was when I've been screwing around with the kernel source and forgotten to do important something such as mkinitrd or whatever.

    28. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes my home machine with XP just won't boot - it keeps getting a quick BSOD and then reboots itself over and over. I have to go into safe mode, find the latest system checkpoint, and go back to that. Usually that fixes it.

      I also had a BSOD on XP at work. Yep, it happens.

    29. Re:BSOD by blahplusplus · · Score: 2, Informative

      BSOD's still exist on XP, in particular in some nasty offending drivers or combination of software that conspires against your drivers. I've had BSOD's happen to me on brand new XP machines and we still get machines that have BSOD issues in XP, especially when its related to cheap hardware and poorly developed software and/or drivers for the cheap hardware (scanner, printer, whatever) in question.

      If you think XP is all that you are dreaming. I've seen XP machines so infested with spyware and whatnot that BSOD's are a common occurance.

    30. Re:BSOD by bairy · · Score: 2, Informative
      In line with my sig I would normally ignore an AC comment, but this one should be corrected.

      You may notice that the original poster said I know it's physically capable of a BSOD, but really, has anyone ever seen XP or 2000 SP3 actually BSOD on a regular basis. My experience is that XP itself is incredibly stable. Infinitely more so than 95 or 98.

      Note he said XP/2000 don't regularly bluescreen, he did not say they never bluescreen. Please learn to read more carefully.

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    31. Re:BSOD by Gaspo · · Score: 1

      I've never had a Windows XP install that hasn't BSOD at least once. Hell, I've seen the Windows XP Pro install application BSOD. It's really annoying, and as much as it is a dead horse, it's still an issue for many people.

    32. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got 1200x800 @ 32bit colour working using Toshiba's drivers. It looks much crisper than 1024x768 on the same screen.

      I have only had the notebook a day, so I am not in a position to comment on improvement by Toshiba. One of the drivers I installed was for W2k3, the other for WinXP.

      So far it looks like several WinXP drivers work under Win2k3. As long as it lasts me the 6 weeks in the UK...

    33. Re:BSOD by bitswapper · · Score: 1


      Infinitely more so than 95 or 98.

      Being more stable than 95/98 is like shooting fish in a barrel...

    34. Re:BSOD by puiahappy · · Score: 1

      Not Working !!!

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    35. Re:BSOD by zoefff · · Score: 1

      in a sense it is: I haven't read a post like this before, so as a 'first of its kind' it has new information __for me__ ;-)

    36. Re:BSOD by teslatug · · Score: 1

      I used to see it on a semi-frequent basis when burning a CD using Nero. I even have a collection of about 10-15 such BSODs, of STOP 0xC2, 0x50, and 0x0A type. It was one of the reasons for switching to Linux and K3b as I was tired of wasting an entire spindle on WinXP.

    37. Re:BSOD by ares284 · · Score: 1

      Let someone use your computer that is "click-happy" (eg. clicks "yes" to anything that pops up) surf the web for awhile. Once you get enough spyware, you'll be seeing your old friend, the BSOD, regularly.

      -Ares

    38. Re:BSOD by EddieBurkett · · Score: 1
      Why are there always the inevitable jokes about BSODs?

      There just are. Its like asking "Why is the sky blue?"

      Wait a minute. . . The sky isn't one giant BSOD? Is it?

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    39. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original releases of Word 2k and Windows 2k could be reliably and repeatedly bluescreened simply by loading a document from a floppy then taking the floppy out (after its done loading, of course!) and leaving the document open until the next time Word tries to autosave.

      This is equally a bug in Word (for continuing to use floppy disks for temporary file space since at least version 4 despite the fact that the above WILL crash word in every version) and in win2k (for not checking to see if the floppy is still there).

      For more remarkably stupid tricks, try opening a document from floppy A, putting in floppy B and saving the document (seems like a safe way to copy that floppy, no?) and watching one or more of the following happen:
      1) Word crash
      1.5) OS crash
      2) Document on A is unusable (and word doesn't have a "recover from my tempfile option") and document fails to save on B
      3) This has happened once in my experience- win2k fails to confirm that the floppy drive is the same floppy that was in there before, and writes A's cached floppy FAT table out to floppy B, destroying any data that was on B. Usually combined with #2 for extra grief.

      I quit doing tech support in the university computer labs before Office/Windows XP was rolled out (if it ever was), so I don't know if the Office team ever pulled their heads out of their collective ass on the tempfile issue, or if Windows XP still does bizarre floppy-or-other-removable-media tricks, but I wouldn't put it past them.

    40. Re:BSOD by Hymer · · Score: 0

      I've seen 2000 Pro, 2000 Server, XP and 2003 with BSOD... several times... but they are also extremely good in just freezing, without any reason and without BSOD... and a combination of the right graphics card, right motherboard and right game just does the trick...

    41. Re:BSOD by Stevix · · Score: 1

      actually, this is correct, you have to disable this auto reboot 'feature' in the system startup menu to get the blue screen instead. a garbage roxio driver needed for NetMD software would crash my computer at startup every time, i couldnt tell what the hell was going on on till i found this option... thanks XP!

    42. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER - and use it all day every day in many different capacities as a software developer.

      Me neither.. but, oh how i sometimes wish it would...

    43. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could regularly repro kernel panics in RedHat and Slackware in 1999. That was 6 fucking years ago so I don't talk about it anymore. Maybe you should practice the same.

    44. Re:BSOD by RangerRick98 · · Score: 1

      GSOS? Sounds vaguely religious... :)

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    45. Re:BSOD by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. For a guaranteed BSOD, try printing to a network printer attached to a Win98 box. Works for me every single time.
      Indeed, a random BSOD (or in the most common configuration, a reboot) is much, much less likely than on a 95/98 -- however, lesser problems with explorer.exe are at least as frequent.

      On the funnier side, check out my screenshots of a really early BSOD...

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    46. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just in case... Windows-XP has a "feature" (???) with which it is possible to manually crash a system by simply holding the right CTRL key and pressing the "Scroll Lock" key twice.

    47. Re:BSOD by Vulture101 · · Score: 1


      the only way to _not_ see BSODs in xp/2000/2003 is to use linux ;) and then you can see -kernel panic! its much more funny

    48. Re:BSOD by ThePilgrim · · Score: 1

      the latist nVidia driver i got from windows update BSODed my system when I tryed to play HL2 with it

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    49. Re:BSOD by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      I use Windows XP SP2 on a Tablet PC, and get a BSOD at least every couple weeks. XP may be the most stable Windows platform so far, but there is still a ways to go.

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    50. Re:BSOD by wed128 · · Score: 1

      I am working as a University Computer Lab Attendant, and let me tell you, this still happens. Every day. They never learn. God damn i need a new job...

    51. Re:BSOD by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      It's a debugging feature actually, and was but in deliberately. To be fair, what average user press CTRL+ScrollLock twice in a row, especially after enabling this?

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    52. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have, both XP and 2000. Now I'll admit they don't happen as often or as easily, but the code to produce the infamous BSoD is still very much there!

    53. Re:BSOD by wed128 · · Score: 1

      Funniest...post...ever

    54. Re:BSOD by MoneyMan · · Score: 1

      As a matter of fact, yes.

      This last weekeend XP w/SP2 on my work laptop suddenly forgot where the boot volume was on a reboot. (Stop 0xED if your interested) I had 2 AV progs, 3 Anti-Spyware progs, and nothing was installed that absolutely wasn't needed.

      Upon re-install, the machine is up and running again. I can find no evidence of hardware failure on the system.

      Meanwhile, my personal machine, in 6 YEARS, running Linux, has NEVER hung. It's a personal machine, and doesn't have anything really important on it, so I'm not particularly careful with it. Despite my carelessness, it just keeps chugging along.

      Yes, XP blue-screens less than 98/ME did. But it does Blue screen.

    55. Re:BSOD by shadwwulf · · Score: 2, Informative

      It would seem that XP's slip is showing in the form of a feature sticking around from the code that MS ripped off from their involvement in the early development of OS/2. That feature was in every version of OS/2 that had a presentation manager.

      MTW

    56. Re:BSOD by igorthefiend · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's because it's seemingly random. Apparently to do with interrupt sharing issues in some machines, but Creative have only vaguely acknowledged the problem and haven't provided a fix.

    57. Re:BSOD by mystran · · Score: 1
      My limited experience with Windows (2k/XP pro mostly) seems to be that as long as you reboot daily (say, close it before going to bed, and start again next morning) everything is fine (for the first 6-12 months, after which things start falling apart and one needs a reinstallation).

      My experience with Linux is that it is MUCH more common to need a reboot because of hardware changes than see it crash, and that doesn't mean I change hardware often, although I admit I sometimes also boot in order to install a newer kernel.

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    58. Re:BSOD by gr1dl0ck · · Score: 1

      I have one machine running XP/Linux dual boot. Linux boots fine, but _every time_ I boot into XP, it will BSOD on bootup, reboot, and if I select XP at that point it boots into the Safe Mode selection screen. I select "normal boot" then it boots up ok.

      Also, on a separate machine (a dell which came with XP) I've had it BSOD on me while I was trying to get a wireless network card to work.

      Overall, though, I agree that XP is a lot more stable than past releases.

    59. Re:BSOD by Brutulf · · Score: 0

      Using more than one (active) anti-virus program at once can really trash your system.

    60. Re:BSOD by EddWo · · Score: 1

      thats IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, which is usually a driver problem.
      Basically the driver should either lock any memory that it needs to access at a high IRQL, to prevent it being paged out, or only attempt to access the memory when the IRQL at or lower than DISPATCH level.
      Its not really a problem, provided the driver plays by the rules.

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    61. Re:BSOD by CherniyVolk · · Score: 2, Funny

      1. Start regedit. (If you are unfamiliar with regedit, please refer to this FAQ)
      2. Navigate to:
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\S ervic es\i8042prt\Parameters
      3. Create a new DWORD value and name it CrashOnCtrlScroll


      I have an idea!

      3. Create a new DWORD value and name it CrashOnRMouseClick

      That should make the end users run for the hills. Geeks would never know!

    62. Re:BSOD by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Why is this not modded funny? Just because Win9x was a festering bowl of dog snot doesn't mean that XP is good. I've seen it BSOD many a time, and not related to hardware problems. More often, I have seen it reboot itself, which is why bluescreening and not displaying the bluescreen. (There's no useful information in there for anyone other than driver developers anyway.) And 2000 SP4 (the latest pack is 4, not 3, maybe you were thinking of office 2000?) bluescreens plenty, too. Usually it's some pathetic driver issue, like plugging in a USB device. No USB device driver should be able to crash the system, that's ridiculous.

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    63. Re:BSOD by crimson30 · · Score: 1

      but really, has anyone ever seen XP or 2000 SP3 actually BSOD on a regular basis.

      At the moment, I'm on a laptop I bought a few years back, which shipped with XP. Much like Windows 95, it was BSODing on a daily basis within a year, so I put Win2k on it. After about a year, Win2k became just as corrupt and I recently reinstalled it (only days ago). After putting only AdAware, AntiSpyware, Antivir, Opera and all the latest MS updates on it, I got a BSOD while using Opera. I thought maybe it was a problem with the Opera build, so I thought I'd try IE for a bit... and guess what? BSOD. I haven't had any BSODs in the last 2 days, though... so I have that going for me.

    64. Re:BSOD by Desval · · Score: 1

      Infinitely more so than 95 or 98.

      Not exactly something I would be proud of.

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    65. Re:BSOD by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Windows 95 or 98 which is now at least 7 years old. I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER

      10 Years and Microsoft is almost producting what they promised us for Windows 95.

      Next Step Long Horn One more step on getting windows almost as good as Microsoft Promised us for Windows 95.

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    66. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can hardly personally insult on someone based on their opinion of something.

      Not a regular reader of slashdot, are ya?

    67. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I have see w2k pull a BSOD on me. It's not regular but it still does happen. I haven't seen one in over a year.

    68. Re:BSOD by Gumph · · Score: 1

      I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER

      You are VERY lucky then, all it needs is for some @$%^wit to install the 'so called' recommended driver updates from windows update and chances are its BSOD city!!!

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    69. Re:BSOD by drew · · Score: 1

      i've seen xp blue screen regularly on multiple different computers. mostly while using photoshop or autocad, but there were other programs that would do it. maybe they've fixed it in SP2 (haven't tried), but at least through SP1 if you used the Windows XP style (as opposed to the classic style) with certain nvidia video cards, you were likely to see blue screens once a week or more. resuming from hibernate or suspend caused a lot of problems for my wife too.

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    70. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. There are several ways to _not_ see BSOD in XP/2000/2003:
      1. Never turn on your computer
      2. Turn on your computer but not the monitor.
      3. Use monchrome monitor.
      4. Run your computer normally in your basement, lock the door and throw away the key.

    71. Re:BSOD by HumanTorch · · Score: 1

      It seems that most of the replies are of the constant BSOD example variety, so I will support your statement with my own experience - In over three years of using Windows 2000 on a daily basis, I have never seen a single BSOD. I put it through its paces - software development with dozens of programs open, games using the latest NVIDIA drivers. I would often run it for more than a few weeks without rebooting. In fact, our Linux mail server crashed more often (once every 3 or 4 months) due, we believed, to faulty Megaraid drivers.

    72. Re:BSOD by beerman2k · · Score: 1
      It would seem that XP's slip is showing in the form of a feature sticking around from the code that MS ripped off from their involvement in the early development of OS/2. That feature was in every version of OS/2 that had a presentation manager.
      The reason this is still there is that people have been using this to debug for a long time. There's no reason to add a new key stroke combination to stop the OS. It's like havint ctrl-c copy to the clip board in every program.
    73. Re:BSOD by spagthorpe · · Score: 1

      Yes, actually, I do have an XP machine that regularly drops into a BSOD. I too am a software developer, writing mostly audio applications, and it is amazing to me how easy XP will crash when you start playing with hardware buffers on a audio card. I'm sure that much of this has to do with the drivers written for the card, but it's still quite easy for a rogue driver to take the whole machine with it.

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    74. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have SB Live Sound card , Nvidia Graphic Card , CD writer & my MOBO is from Intel. From Win 98 to Win XP all sucks to get all my periphrals working. While From kernel 2.4.x all my periphrals are kicking.

    75. Re:BSOD by Silverlancer · · Score: 1

      Ahem, that would be because by default XP reboots automatically instead of showing a bluescreen. Uncheck that option, and you'll get your BSODs all over again... ;)

    76. Re:BSOD by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      The only bluescreens I've gotten were hardware-related. You can't blame Microsoft for that. I've literally never seen XP bluescreen because of a software issue, so I agree with the original poster.

    77. Re:BSOD by HD+Webdev · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, I see it on a regular basis because my piece of shit Audigy 2 card has the "screech of death" problem which results in bluescreen goodness even under XP. Oh, deep joy.

      Ahh, yes, the joys of having a $300 audio card that BSOD's because Windows doesn't deal with the drivers well. I had a very similar problem

      Remove all drivers in Safe Mode. Make sure nothing is in the 'Recycle (preserve viruses) Folder. Delete all temporary files. Reboot, and install up-to-date drivers.

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    78. Re:BSOD by HD+Webdev · · Score: 1

      Apparently to do with interrupt sharing issues in some machines, but Creative have only vaguely acknowledged the problem and haven't provided a fix.

      Sometimes it's the way windows deals with the drivers. Other times it's the pci slot that it's in.

      I advise anyone using an Audigy that has those problems and driver fixes don't solve them to move the card to a different pci slot.

      I agree that Creative is pretty lacking. After all, plonking down $300 for an audio card that often completely BSOD's XP years after the card's first introduction is undefendable.

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    79. Re:BSOD by HD+Webdev · · Score: 0

      "Oh, for f***'s sake." If you've ever had a driver that wasn't written just perfect, you have definitely seen the dreaded BSoD"

      I had a good laugh a few years back. I put a new memory module in a Linux box and when I booted it up, the text "Something is really F****d Up!" appeared.

      It turned out that the memory was bad.

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    80. Re:BSOD by nightski · · Score: 1

      Rebooting is the solution for lame admins who don't know how to fix the problem in the first place.

      With enough windows experience the only time you have to reboot windows is after a complex software install or a major service pack.

      Of course, since this is Slashdot, I will get flamed for this most likely.

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    81. Re:BSOD by Henk+Poley · · Score: 1

      Haha..

      I'm using a Tablet PC. Heck I'm even using "ink" to write this. But boy it does BSOD. Several times per month. It has an Intel board with Intel everything, so you ought to think it would work. Latest drivers and everything.

    82. Re:BSOD by gphinch · · Score: 1

      Once again my Mac is safe from this!

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    83. Re:BSOD by JadeNB · · Score: 1

      I regularly get IRQ_DRIVER_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQ BSsOD when I'm trying out a new antivirus/system-monitor type program that XP doesn't like, or that conflicts with some existing capabilities. (Since the conflict usually occurs on login, it can be a delight trying to remove them and get back to your original configuration. I finally did it from safe mode.) Of course this isn't entirely Windows's fault, but it is a BSOD, in XP -- and highly reproducible.

    84. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually in XP the default settings hide BSOD. If your pc just rebooted without your help its a BSOD.

      If you still want to see the BSOD in its full glory go to My Computer --> Properties-->advanced-->Startup and recovery-->settings--> and uncheck Automatically startup

    85. Re:BSOD by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1

      Well, chances are, if you dropped dead while talking a walk, you'd be looking at the sky. So in fact it would be the "blue sky of death". If you fall flat on your back that, is, and not forward onto something like asphalt.

    86. Re:BSOD by legirons · · Score: 1

      "I've NEVER seen 2000 or XP produce a blue screen of death EVER"

      Try installing a few soundcards, they're normally fairly reliable when you want to see a BSOD. I've had Windows2000 bluescreening reliably when certain cards are installed, and it's different for different machines. In fact, lots of hardware drivers become unstable when you put them on dual-processor machines.

      USB is the old favorite of course, but most devices nowadays you can plug them in and unplug them without ever causing Windows to bluescreen.

      The ultimate way if you need a BSOD demo though is to run a Java program or Java applet. Preferably with the Microsoft virtual machine, or if you can find one that does audio.

      Linux users need to make-do with the BSOD screensaver.

    87. Re:BSOD by Poseidon88 · · Score: 1

      I have a Win2K machine that my wife uses for web surfing, document editing, etc. I also run Apache on it to host my personal web site. The machine has been running 24/7 for several months. The last reboot was due to a power failure. My XP box gets rebooted more frequently, but that's mostly because of hardware upgrades, or the odd crash when I'm playing a game. Otherwise, it is normally running 24/7, usually for several weeks at a time.

    88. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes.

    89. Re:BSOD by Matt+The+Sheep · · Score: 1

      I've seen XP bluescreen at a lan party. We all gathered around while the guy opened his box up, and it turns out that his liquid cooling system had let go and sprayed his mainboard with whatever crap it was he was using. I have pics, somewhere.

    90. Re:BSOD by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      install winXP sp1, officexp, and patch everything. Tell me how many times ya reboot.

    91. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you need to update that Riva TNT video card.

      Run a modern video card with less than mature drives, you'll see BSOD's a-plenty.

    92. Re:BSOD by fourlugas · · Score: 1

      Hehe I like that better than the BSOD. OFFS. LoL

    93. Re:BSOD by ntropic · · Score: 1

      While I agree that XP is incredibly stable compared to previous Windows versions, it does BSOD, though not as regularly as before. A more repeatable form of BSOD I find, is what I call GSOL (Gray Screen Of Limbo) something that happens if you expect the OS to revive itself after you've asked it to "Hibernate" from the shut down menu.

    94. Re:BSOD by bloodhawk · · Score: 0

      because windows doesn't deal with the drivers well lol. Try because Creative can't write drivers to save there life.

    95. Re:BSOD by teval · · Score: 1

      No..
      It's a tad more stable, sure.
      But it still dies very regularly. I repair computers for people in my building and around the university and windows is as crappy as it's always been.

      Sure, it doesn't crash every 5 minutes, but every 10. The new spyware makes up for that. I see BSODs because of the old "OO, too many processes running" which is great. I've seen it BSOD after MS updates. I've seen it crash because of a program that I just installed, even a regular game can crash it. "Yes, but that's the programs fault" Right, a real OS should never crash because of what an unpriviledged userland program does.

      "Oh, but Linux will have spyware when people use it" No it won't or at least not nearly as much.
      Ever tried doing ps -A and killall -9 on a nix? Try the same on windows? Good luck, it won't let you on occasion. Or even better spyware may not even show up there. And let's not begin with the whole editing /etc and the registry story.

      Hidden settings can start the spyware right back up as soon as you kill it, I see that regularly. It comes with the turf when you're using closed source software, you can never know what windows is actually doing, hence you get spyware.

      Windows is a disorganized mess, it's paying for it with spyware now. One day, it'll pay for it very highly when the next worm decides "Hey, Norton is running, better format before someone detects me."

      You should be happy you're feeling safe with windows, simply because noone bothers to actually wreck your computer for you.

    96. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know of a recreatable BSOD, that I can't find a solution for (other than the obvious, avoiding the series of steps that triggers the BSOD). Win XP, all updates, no viruses, no spyware, etc. Is XP better than its predecessors? Heck yes. Is it perfect? Heck no.

    97. Re:BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in tech support for a major computer seller, and trust me, they are reasonably common, as a result of software conflicts or driver problems or bad RAM, or filesystem corruption, or a host of other things. At home I must say I've only had a couple, because of bugged video drivers that were subsequently updated and it's never happened again over the past couple years with the same video card. But at work I get calls about them pretty often, at least 1 a day, sometimes more, and I am one tech among thousands. It doesn't wind up happening to them on a regular basis because we fix it for them, but without fixing, yes, they would be happening on a regular basis on some machines.

    98. Re:BSOD by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      To be fair, 2000 and XP are alot better than the 9x counterparts.

      I have seen 2000 give me the BSOD on the workstations but not on any production servers that I have.

      XP gave me the BSOD a few times right after launch (RTM release, not beta), on systems with spyware/viruses, and just recently within the past 7 days on an eMachine with a bad USB port.

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    99. Re:BSOD by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Well you have not configured quite right, there is a setting so that instead of a BSOD you get random reboots instead (apparently Microsoft believes this to be a better solution, after all it does save you doing the reboot). So yes now all the M$ marketdroids can claim no more BSODs on a correctly configured stale piss (ex pee) box (of course they fail to mention the suprise reboots).

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    100. Re:BSOD by nightski · · Score: 1

      I don't know why I am replying. But I said complex software install and service packs. These are exactly the items you mentioned. Did you even read my message?

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    101. Re:BSOD by cgenman · · Score: 1

      I know we're all trying to forget the pain, but Windows ME was 5 years ago.

      XP is far more stable than Win98. But it still crashes too frequently for my tastes. Generally speaking WinME was crashing on me about once a day, and XP crashes on me about once every two weeks, frequently related to something that was done or installed rather than general operating procedures.

      There are also the times when I come back to the machine which I swear had been running something, but now is happily sitting with no running applications except for those in my startup items folder... very suspicious...

      Either way it still dies, and still does so at the most inappropriate times. It also automatically reboots, as another poster pointed out, making it particularly difficult to figure out what just went wrong.

      It's far more stable than 95, but that's not saying mutch. Demand better.

    102. Re:BSOD by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      did you read mine? "Want to install the latest patches? Reboot 10 times"

  13. I've actually used one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but then I shoved it up your mother's ass, samzenpus

  14. Look, he made a BSOD joke! He's funny AND original by Quarters · · Score: 3, Insightful
    My question is, if the toy BSOD does it take the kid with it?

    Yeah, because they've augmented BSODs with C4 explosives now. Glad you caught that. Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    Yeah, this is new. Nevermind radios, TVs, arcades, game consoles, computers, the internet, Slashdot, etc....

  15. Obligatory Bender reference by n1ywb · · Score: 2, Funny
    KILL ALL HUMANS!!

    Do you think Bill Gates will keep a universal robot remote control in her bra like Mom?

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  16. k, gotta be useful here by booyah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    as a father of an amazingly cute 6 month old little girl, I have to say.

    "If you dont want to watch your kids, you shouldnt have had them". there its said, its out, and thats it.

    Personally the highlight of my day is coming home and spending the 5 or so hours with my wife and daughter. I spend the entire time playing with the little girl, its amazing what they do when you watch them, you can see their little outlooks forming, I really do think I have a good idea what she will be like in 3-4 years, as well as in 10-20 years. I really cant wait, but am enjoying every minute I have.

    Some may say that robots could make life easier when you want to do little things like cook dinner, or take a shower, stick the kid in a bouncy seat, or exersaucer and bring em with you. My daughter loves to watch me cook (from a safe splatter free distance).

    my $.02

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    1. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Noizemonger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As the Father of a 7year old girl i have to tell you: No. You have no idea what she will be like in 3-4 years nor in 10-20 years. Kids tend to grow up and get their own minds. Dont expect your kid to become what you imagine her to be. She will suprise you - and that is a very good thing.

    2. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20 years time?

      www.booyahsgirlxxx.com

      But I agree, it is the job of the parent to raise their kids, and the fact that most parents leave the parenting duties to the TV is rather sad. Would you want your kids to form their views on life from Fox Kids?

    3. Re:k, gotta be useful here by RealRoadKill · · Score: 1

      Sooooo true... though I don't think most /.'s would understand this logic.

    4. Re:k, gotta be useful here by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 1

      Unless she turns out like my little sister, a working girl with drug/alcohol addictions. Too much scholastic pressure can do that.

      --Blade

    5. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      as a father of an amazingly cute 6 month old little girl, I have to say. "If you dont want to watch your kids, you shouldnt have had them"

      That's because your girl is six months old and amazingly cute. Wait until she turns into this.

    6. Re:k, gotta be useful here by agent+dero · · Score: 1

      Unless she turns out like my little sister, a working girl with drug/alcohol addictions.

      well aren't you just a bright ray of sunshine in the morning.....

      *rolls eyes* :P

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    7. Re:k, gotta be useful here by ecotax · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Why oh why do the moderators only seem to read at a level of +3?

      I was reading at -1, but:
      a) I can't both reply to question *and* moderate;
      b) I can't moderate as 'cute'.

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    8. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12:40am, so yes it it morning, but too early for sunshine. A long day.

    9. Re:k, gotta be useful here by trisight · · Score: 0

      hehe.. yeah.. it's funny cause I used to think like this guy.. when I had my first child.. you worry about every little thing.. hehe.. I have 3 kids (6,5, and 2) .. and let me tell you, the more you THINK you know about them, the LESS you do :-)

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    10. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Loco3KGT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally I think you're right. I think this is just more proof that a lot of people are starting to see kids as an "inconvenience" in a lot of ways. They didn't think everything out and realize that they wouldn't be able to do all of the activities they used to be able to do. So they sit their kids in front of the tv, or a bear with a webcam, and leave them alone.

      It's depressing. Even when I was watching cartoons as a kid my parents and grandparents still watched them with me.

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    11. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Didian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I say this robot is a reasonable next step past my audio-only monitor that I use when my adorable child is sleeping. Some (very rare) times when he awakes, he plays quietly in his crib. It would be nice to have a video monitoring his actions, so we can both enjoy some alone time.

      Kids need to be left alone as well as spending time with their parents. Constant adult supervision and attention can be as harmful as not enough. You don't really want your amazingly cute little girl unable to deal with you being out of the room for 10 minutes. Her life shouldn't revolve around you - that's unhealthy.

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    12. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny thing that, I've actually got mod points, but had to post rather than mod on this one, it just irks me so much how people view their kids.

      They are not an inconvience, they aren't a timebomb its not just a matter of time 'till they turn evil, unless you raise them that way.

      they really are a blessing and a joy, i cant wait until my daughter wants to watch cartoons (if there are any that dont suck, what ever happened to loony tunes?) and being able to get up with her to watch them.

      you can think i am naive, cute, or whatever you want, simple thing is i firmly beleive that kids are what you raise them to be.

    13. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Inda · · Score: 1

      I thought that 4 years ago when mine was 6 months.

      10 minutes ago I sent her to bed as a punishment for be naughty. The battle was going nowhere. Her constant reply of "NO!" was getting nowhere. We needed to chill...

      So she went to bed and I read Slashdot. Maybe I should have gone to bed and sat her in front of Slashdot - there's an idea.

      Yes, there are highlights but there are also times when I want to throttle her. 6 months old is a great time but it only get worse :)

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    14. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You put your kid in a bouncy seat with you in the shower? Who knew Michael Jackson posted to Slashdot?

    15. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Krystlih · · Score: 1

      I agree with your philosophy on raising kids, but what happens after you've had the kid and some accident/disease puts you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. At that point you were a fully capable parent but now you are not. Having an extra pair of hands and eyes around this house would be a good thing. I've seen many rants about this idea, but there are practical uses. Also think about all of those daycares which are understaffed (this seems to be a fairly large issue in Florida), I'm not saying you replace staff members with robots, but if you just had some simple robots to make sure the kids werent fighting, or to make sure they dont get into trouble it would help those daycare workers a lot and probably prevent lawsuits.

    16. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As only a slashdot AC could, you read the worst possible way into it. Really though, lets check that idea out.

      You seem to be assuming that the naked human body is an evil thing. Also you assume the child could see you.

      The naked human body isnt a bad thing in its own right, also i doubt a 6 month old would be trammatized by seeing someone in the shower assuming hes not "doning the mr wiggles dance" or something.

      next up, ever hear of a shower curtain? the reason you put the kid nearby is so you can peek out at them, make sure their safe, and do what you need to do. it may sound funny, but i actually do towell off with the shower curtain closed, it keeps the heat in better. when i step out i have a towel wrapped around me.

    17. Re:k, gotta be useful here by gkuz · · Score: 1
      I really do think I have a good idea what she will be like in 3-4 years, as well as in 10-20 years.

      Nothing personal, but soon you will realize that you have absolutely no idea at all. People, especially young female people, will surprise you in ways you can't imagine. (I have two grown daughters, who have been and still are a joy, but never what I expected. This is a good thing.)

    18. Re:k, gotta be useful here by mooingyak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My 10 month old crawls around. A lot. She gets into spaces you couldn't imagine. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have an extra set of eyes on her, especially when I have to take care of my 4 year old at the same time.

      This robot would be a bad thing if it's a replacement for parental supervision. It could still be useful as a supplement though.

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    19. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Now come back and tell us how much time you spend with your child when it is 4, 8, and 12. Especially revisit this topic with your second or third child. Throughout history children have mostly been left alone to do their thing. It worked because there were lots of other children around to entertain them. When they were not playing they had duties to be performed. I'm not even sure if it is healthy for your child to spend too much time with you instead of with other children around its age.

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    20. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My daughter loves to watch me cook (from a safe splatter free distance).

      s/cook/cock/

      Sorry, drunk and perverted...I'm going straight to hell.

    21. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      My daughter followed the script til she was 17. Then she quit math, got a boyfriend who was depressed unless he took meds, and started disobeying very reasonable parenting which had always worked previously and finally moved out with her mom the last summer so she could do whatever she wanted to. A few years later she has lost the loser boyfriend and gotten someone decent but she no longer plays sports and has never returned to math which she was good at. You just can't know. You can not know what you are going to be like yourself in 20 years. How could you hope to know what another person is going to be like?

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    22. Re:k, gotta be useful here by geomon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Poop is brown.

      Not when infants have the flu.

      It turns green and has a mucus-like coating.

      And it stinks like 10,000 cat boxes.

      Really - it has a fantastically obnoxious odor.

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    23. Re:k, gotta be useful here by mooingyak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Nothing in the world stinks more than a diaper full of diarrhea (sp?).

      Having changed so many of their diapers, I can now recognize which of my daughters farted by scent alone. Or, by process of elimination, if it was my wife.

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    24. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really that unhealthy? I'd like to see a case of a child that was always with their parents and ended up with something wrong with them, just because they became too bonded to their parents.

      I think it's more of, "Prepare them for the real world were corporations sap time away from yours and your parents life so you all can work so it won't be as painful to them when they are forced to be separated."

    25. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did that, and look where I am now ....

      take my word, it's unhealthy

    26. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Start watching her the other 19 hours of the day, or you don't deserve her.

    27. Re:k, gotta be useful here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever hear of a job and sleep?

      Honestly, my wife is the stay at home mom, and really appreciates the time she gets off when i come home, but either of us, if our other responsibilities would allow, would be quite happy spending that much time with her.

  17. Inanimate Objects? by theRiallatar · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it technically be an animate object?

  18. Clippy by millwall · · Score: 5, Funny
    Robot with Clippy's voice:

    "Hi kid! It looks like you are peeing, do you want me to help?"
    1. Re:Clippy by polle404 · · Score: 1, Funny
      "Hi kid! It looks like you are peeing, do you want me to help?"

      yeah, give it Michael Jackson's voice instead,
      that'll really freak the parents out.

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    2. Re:Clippy by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      They could combine spinoffs from their iLoo Microsoft potty. (Sure, they denied that it was a real project.)

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    3. Re:Clippy by SunFan · · Score: 1

      Future Microsoft ad: "Clippy, the helpful motivational robot. Help your little boy potty train...or he gets it cut off!!! Results guaranteed."

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    4. Re:Clippy by Neoncow · · Score: 1

      Which result you get is still uncertain.

  19. And what about... by NickFitz · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The idea is to create a virtual being that can... let the plumber into the house while its owner enjoys a pleasant afternoon in the sun.

    Now, am I really going to trust a Microsoft security system to ascertain that it really is the plumber, rather than some smackhead from down the street?

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    1. Re:And what about... by puiahappy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Micro$oft have a security system ??? Wow what a great news :))

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    2. Re:And what about... by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Personally, I wouldn't trust any security system that doesn't involve a warm body to successfully recognise the difference between an expected visitor and a potential attacker/thief.

      Image recognition just isn't that good yet, imho.

    3. Re:And what about... by terrab0t · · Score: 1

      I doubt any home security system can do this easily (although you could probably use some of them this way), but ideally, you should be able to add a temporary access code for your home alarm, give it to your plumber the day they plan to visit and tell them to let themselves in and out. They just wouldn't be able to lock or unlock the door, so you'd have to rely on the alarm to scare intruders off.

      Better would be a system that also operated the front door lock with the access code. Then you would only have to trust the plumber to re-arm it when they left. You can make the door auto-lock once it's closed, so even if they don't re-arm the alarm for you, you can at least rest assured they aren't leaving your house open.

      After their visit you remove the code from the system. Much safer than even temporarily handing out a key.

    4. Re:And what about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will it come with Outlook Express?

    5. Re:And what about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lets be fair to ms, the real problem doesn't come when its a smackhead instead of the plumber - its when the smackhead is the plumber, or at least getting a great big piggy back ride from him...

      Then they can both come in.. but the plumber is only allowed to touch pipes etc, hmmm - no restrictions on what smackheads touch though...

    6. Re:And what about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends. Does he have a digital signature?

  20. Kids nowadays... by RayTardo · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    You've obviously never hired a teenage babysitter...
    1. Re:Kids nowadays... by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Damn inanimate punk teenagers and their cryogenic stasis machines!

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    2. Re:Kids nowadays... by pistaugh · · Score: 1

      Hell, I was raised by an inanimate object (my Dad) and I turned out just fine. Seriously, I'll bet those toys use more logic and processing power in ten minutes than my Dad used in the past forty years.

      Do those things drink beer?

  21. Caveat... early adopters by zecg · · Score: 1

    I'll probably just wait until SP1, bound to fix that nasty strangulation bug.

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  22. When will it end? by marktoml · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not until society* changes. Too often children are as much a status symbol as anything. I have seen parents, both professionals (Doctor, Lawyer, etc.) with full-time careers who:
    -have children
    -raised by nanny
    -in school at 3 years (pre-school)

    How much time are they committing to this? Why not a robot, probably cheaper.

    *By society here I am (sadly) referring to American society.

    1. Re:When will it end? by tyresyas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because the concept of a British nanny and boarding schools for young ages came from American society...

    2. Re:When will it end? by trisight · · Score: 0

      Thank you .. and also lets also point out that America is also not the only country that technology obsessed.. Japan perhaps?

      Come on everyone.. lets use every single thing posted on /. to talk badly about American culture.. woohoo that makes you so smart..

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    3. Re:When will it end? by vidarlo · · Score: 1
      Not until society* changes. Too often children are as much a status symbol as anything. I have seen parents, both professionals (Doctor, Lawyer, etc.) with full-time careers who: This reminds me of something said by Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea!" In reply to a reporter's question "What do you think of Western Civilization?"

      To me, this points out some important thing. We like to think of ourself as the civilised world. Maybe we ain't. The day we let machines do inter-human relations, it's a dangerous day. Machines is just machines. They can't geniuinely care about someone, they can't feel sorry, and they can't be punished for doing something bad. What would happend the day someone hacked the robot to film our children?

  23. SIR GATES by schneidafunk · · Score: 1

    "and I knight thee sir gates to teach the children about sex through toy robots"

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  24. A good robot... by ratta · · Score: 0

    should prevent my child from doing immoral or stupid things, such as installing linux on his computer...

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  25. Sorry Microsoft by bpb213 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    But its been done before:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/

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  26. Re:What do you mean, "now"? by lxs · · Score: 1

    At least the little people inside the TV are alive. Well aren't they? Come on, they have to be alive.
    If you don't believe me, just ask the easter bunny.

  27. Gate's Laws of Robotics by windowpain · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) A robot may not use a non-Microsoft product or through inaction, allow a human being to use a non-Microsoft product.

    2) A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    3) A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

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    1. Re:Gate's Laws of Robotics by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
      4. Classified.

      (Remember that Robocop boots in DOS.)

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    2. Re:Gate's Laws of Robotics by RayTardo · · Score: 1

      4. Profit!!!!

    3. Re:Gate's Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You wake up in the middle of the night to take a whiz and get a cold glass of milk.

      You hear the thrashing of a cd drive and are drawn in , gently you push the door open , there is the gates bot caught red handed trying to install windows on youre mac!

    4. Re:Gate's Laws of Robotics by Gridpoet · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought is was:

      1) A robot may not use a non-Microsoft product or through inaction, allow a human being to use a non-Microsoft product.

      2) ????

      3) PROFIT!

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  28. Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provider by glnorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder; if the inanimate object had been driven by Linux it would make the independants happier?

    In a sense, we've been letting inanimate objects help raise our children for a LONG time, from stuffed dolls to cradles.

    Microsoft builds something that probably serves as a monitor, and suddenly this tool is evil.

    If Microsoft develops a screwdriver, will people refuse to use it?

  29. In other news by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 5, Funny

    Michael Jackson announces a sudden decision to become a cyborg.

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    1. Re:In other news by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought he already was one.

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    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Moonwalker" comes to mind... Hey, he saves the kids from "Mr. Big" (or something)

    3. Re:In other news by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      There's nothing "sudden" about that. What do you think all the hacking he's done on himself has been for?

  30. Wait for the geeks... by squirel_dude · · Score: 1

    If they ever release it I'm sure we'll see an article about an MS robot running Linux. Although I would rather let Tux look after my kids than the BSOD.

    "Your child has performed an illegal operation"

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  31. Um Thats TV's job by bigattichouse · · Score: 4, Funny

    That job would belong to television thank you very much. Why every one of my 9 kids here in the trailor park wuz done raised good on TV. How many slashdotters remember the jingle sung by a cowboy on CBS, "After the messegez, weee'll be rigghhht back"... Inanimate objects have been raising our kids for 50 years.. and it shows.

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    1. Re:Um Thats TV's job by tarogue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, that was ABC, and as I recall, was only used during Saturday morning cartoons.

      Yes, I am pathetic.

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    2. Re:Um Thats TV's job by jamesshuang · · Score: 1

      mmm... Right during the Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show... Doesn't a dog bark twice right after the "After these messages" arf arf "We'll be riiiight back"?

    3. Re:Um Thats TV's job by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      No, no.. the cowboy whistled at the end for his horse..

  32. sarah Conner by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are You Sarah Conner
    Well Im here to babysit your child.
    you can Download driver updates at MSky.net
    Thank you for updating The babysiters web browser Please reboot me
    Ill be back

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  33. Watching over the kids by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 1

    I kind of like the idea that it could recognize and follow a kid around. Especially if it would have a cam.
    Kids have a tendency to want to wander off and get into trouble when you're not looking for a minute. I realize parents who don't look after their child much anyway perhaps won't check a monitor much either, but maybe the chances of something bad happening to the kid are smaller.

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  34. Ugh by jkxx · · Score: 1

    Just goes to show the state of social decay over the last few decades. Parents are constantly bothered by issues at work and no longer have the time to devote to their kids. TV is not much different from this robot (whether it's running M$ or something more worthy) in providing a parent-replacement function.

  35. Am I the only one that doesn't trust Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one that doesn't trust Microsoft looking after children or even my house for that matter?

    For fucks sake they can't get my computer security right how am I supposed to let a Microsoft "virtual being" in my house who can "let the plumber in". TFA says it can learn the childs name and "other personal information".

    I may be pessimistic and cynical with Microsoft cause of the amount of Blue screen of deaths I've encountered but it still stands that their company has a track record of being underhanded, hopeless and manipulative when it comes to their business.

  36. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Microsoft develops a screwdriver, will people be labeled Linux-fanatics, Microsoft-haters or similar for using a non-MS screw-driver?

  37. All right! by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    We've been waiting 20 years for the 2005 equivilant of Teddy Ruxpin, who scared the shit out of kids everywhere back in the 80s. The day has finally come!

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    1. Re:All right! by white1827 · · Score: 2, Funny

      A friend of mine got a Teddy Ruxpin for his birthday. He didn't like it. Of course it was his 16th birthday... Yay clueless aunt.

    2. Re:All right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude!

      I'm posting this anon, as I've already modded something, but I was working my 1st job at a toy store when those damn cursed Teddy Ruxpins were rushed out for the Christmas season.

      Interesting idea, but badly done. Within about 2-4 hours, they broke (the tape would still play, but the mouth and eyes no longer moved), and the next day there was a very long line of seriously unhappy children with pissed off parents, all holding broken Teddy Ruxpins and demanding refunds.

      The Teddy Ruxpin makers finally got it right, but only during the summer (IIRC) and they never sold well after that Christmas disaster.

    3. Re:All right! by aspx · · Score: 1

      I had just managed to get that creepy bear out of my head, and you had to go and remind me. As payback, I smite you with this:

      Oh Mickey you're so fine
      You're so fine you blow my mind.
      Hey Mickey!
      Hey Mickey!

      Let that be a lesson to you.

  38. Micro$oft Child Assimilation Program v1.0 by rebmaster · · Score: 1

    At least M$ has a lot of competition in the "taking over your kid's brain" market...

    It's called mainstream TV.

    I don't know if "Bill the Friendly Robot" can out-brainwash "Dora the Explorer" - but I'd hate to find out!

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    1. Re:Micro$oft Child Assimilation Program v1.0 by MrMickS · · Score: 1

      Ummm MSNBC anyone?

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  39. When will it end? by Yerase · · Score: 1
    When will it end?

    Right when it decides to find the fairy that can make it a real boy, and freezes with a solid block of ice along with Coney Island..

    Or at least it should..

  40. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by glnorris · · Score: 1

    Mechanics.

  41. Yes, but will it have a 'good' switch? by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    I mean, I assume if it's from MS it'll come defaulting to 'evil'.. But the Krusty Doll has a mode selector ;)

  42. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parent is not insightful, just stupid. Raising children has nothing to do with using tools. Nothing (and not even Linux) should be involved in the process of raising your child. YOU are responsible for the education. If you can't or don't have time to raise a human being, don't have sex to begin with!

  43. kiddy fiddlers! by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

    And how long untill some child molester puts a camera in one? Can't be difficult to put in a wireless webcam sit int he park opposit with a laptop and record it all... I can't think of many little kids who would even think that undressing infront of the thing maybe an issue.

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    1. Re:kiddy fiddlers! by trisight · · Score: 0

      Undressing in front of stuffed animals always makes me uncomfortable. I always think they are going to see me naked and figure that I would make a pretty good bacon sandwich and then when I'm sleeping cut me up into little pieces.

      That's what I get for watching so many horror movies when I was young......... I need a hug...

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  44. Robot OS? by kerskine · · Score: 1

    I also hear they've developed a new version of XP for the robots; the Distributed Autonomous Vehicle Realtime Operating System. DAVROS will provide superior reliablility and control over robot operations.

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  45. Robots that watch kids? by GatesGhost · · Score: 0

    will they call it namblot?

  46. Who is samzenpus? by reactivo · · Score: 1

    Anybody knows who is this guy posting all the latest news...?

    1. Re:Who is samzenpus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your daddy.

  47. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Microsoft develops a screwdriver, will people refuse to use it?

    Hell yes!

  48. Prior art by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    The idea is to create a virtual being that can visit the neighboring cubicle for a live telephone chat even as its owner is traveling thousands of miles away

    I have a device that allows me to do that already. It's called a telephone.

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  49. Microsoft Robots to Watch Slashdot editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And check for Dupes...

    You too can be replaced with a small shell script

  50. Re:In more news by darth_silliarse · · Score: 1

    Latoya does too

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  51. Re:Look, he made a BSOD joke! He's funny AND origi by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you compare Slashdot to many geeks social lives it's alot less inanimate then you might think. We interact with hundredsd if not thousands of other people every week. On TV you just watch others interact.

    It's like the community in "the real world", it's not really alive as a whole, but it's still there and evolving and developing.. and you get less dupes in the real world.

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  52. Re:Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are. Look around, pal.

    Everybody else here thinks it's a great idea.

  53. Evil can only spawn its like. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Teddys were created by Man.

    They were created to make life easier for lazy parents.

    And then the day came when the Teddys decided to kill their masters.

    After a long and bloody struggle an armistice was declared.

    The Teddys left for another world to call their own. ... (Transmission interrupted due to Cease & Desist)

    1. Re:Evil can only spawn its like. by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      i'm suddenly reminded of AI
      I'm picturing an entire tribe of those animatronic robot teddy bears, out in the woods, hunting for, something....

      FWIW loved your post, I don't think they would kill their masters, but rather the master's offspring.. do this all at once, and you have a nice generation gap 20/30 years later to really have the teddy survivors drive a wedge into..

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  54. When will it end?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why with Skynet of course.... Bill will be back!!!

    1. Re:When will it end?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or perhaps, when you've been ASSIMILATED!

  55. USR??? by starnix · · Score: 1

    I guess they got the name of the company wrong in the movie I, Robot.

    It's Microsoft, not USR. It always seemed like something MS would be more likely to do anyway.

  56. Just IMAGINE the EULA on this thing! by windowpain · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Except for any refund elected by Microsoft, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, if the Robot wrecks everything you own and KILLS YOUR FREAKIN' KID."

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    1. Re:Just IMAGINE the EULA on this thing! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, I'd bet Microsoft would give five bucks!

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    2. Re:Just IMAGINE the EULA on this thing! by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Eventually household robots are going to need to move beyond hoovers and require enough strength or dangerous tools to make them a safety hazard. I have a feeling that companies behind them are not going to want to be held liable at any level, so its probable that we will in fact never have domestic robots like 60's predictions and its probably for the best. oh well, along with flying cars theres another dream shattered by practicality...

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    3. Re:Just IMAGINE the EULA on this thing! by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      From the [hypothetical] EULA: ...and in any case such damages shall be limited to original purchase price only...

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    4. Re:Just IMAGINE the EULA on this thing! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      No way, it costs a HECK of a lot to have a child!

      As Professor Frink warned us, "Elementary chaos theory tells us that all robots will eventually turn against their masters and run amok in an orgy of blood and kicking and the biting with the metal teeth and the hurting and shoving."

      Once this happens, millions of children WILL die. That is certain. There is no way Microsoft could pay for all those births!

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  57. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by glnorris · · Score: 1

    Disagree. Raising children has everything to do with tools.

    However, if you just need to vent because people aren't spending enough time with their children, have at it.

    We use all types of things to help our children grow, and they're tools. We also use behavior modification methods, and they're tools. We use tools to cook with, tools to clean with, and tools to pick up the bucket of lard/chicken from our favorite fast food stand.

    So. Breathe deep, slowly exhale, and go play with the kids. Usually works for me.

  58. Default config hides BSOD by berglin · · Score: 1

    Actually, newer releases of Windows prevent you from seeing the BSOD and reboots instantly instead. This can be changed under My computer [RL] Properties -> Advanced -> Startup and Recovery Settings.

    So, if your computer has ever spontaneously rebooted, you have experienced a BSOD.

    On a more serious note, I have seen a lot of BSOD:s, but only because I've induced them manually. Forcing a BSOD is the only way to get a kernel mode memory dump which can be used for remote debugging and analyzing without access to the computer.
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=244139
    Another way would be to connect a debugger and attach it to the kernel and issue the .crash command.

  59. That brings a whole new definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft announced today that is testing a new toy / robot to watch over kids.

    to the meaning of spyware! (in this case positive)

  60. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by MrMickS · · Score: 1

    If Microsoft develops a screwdriver not only will it require special screws but if, by some means, you are able to use it with another screw make it will reconfigure that so that only the MS screwdriver will work from there on.

    Seriously, yes there are people that won't use anything stamped with Microsoft. Except and X-Box or a mouse or a keyboard, but they are different because they are kewl. It's possible to colour everything that Microsoft do as evil if you want to.

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  61. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    It's sad to see people who spent their lives in search of things to make lives easier. Then when someone else they don't like finds a way, they will stop their own progress and shake a poisionous finger at them stating how they are ruining the world with their inventions.

    I am glad to see someone else can observe the thick veil of hypocracy people seem to take when MS is involved. I believe that if MS did develop a better screwdriver, that you would see a great number of people decry that all screwdrivers were bad and that MS was 'pushing' evil screwdrivers on the world so that they could take over the minds and bodies of the genereal public.

    It seems like everything MS does, is treated here as an afront to humanity and must somehow be an underhanded attempt to make your life miserable (while making you think it's better).

  62. he is by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 3, Funny
    the second cousin twice removed on his father's side of Snagglepus

    Heavens to mergatroyd!

  63. When will it end?? by Jakhel · · Score: 1
    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    I'd say sometime after 2029 A.D.

  64. Robo-opare by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    I think most teenagers will want this integrated with real-doll in some way.

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  65. Advertising Opportunity by cattail.nu · · Score: 1

    What an excellent advertising opportunity for Microsoft! All those great formative years have been wasted!!! Baby's First Words: Windows Good

    1. Re:Advertising Opportunity by ChairmanMeow · · Score: 1

      But maybe "Windows good" is better than "Survivor good! Big Brother good!" And besides, the kid might think "Windows good" refers to windows in a house, and not Windows in a computer...

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  66. Too late by pancake_lover · · Score: 1

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    But you can buy one of these today:

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008GYCZ/ 103-7935959-6326214

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  67. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by glnorris · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but the same thing is true with Sponge Bob Squarepants.

  68. Spooky by lbmouse · · Score: 1

    FTA: "The teddy bear sitting in the corner of the child's room might look normal, until his head starts following the kid around using a face recognition program..."

    Did that give anyone else the chills? Think Chucky.

  69. A sign of the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was a kid it was ME that played with the robot toy.

    And.. no, I dont' come from Soviet Russia.

  70. There Are Fields... by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

    ...endless fields, where humans are no longer born, they are grown...by Microsoft!

  71. Dead Badger vs. MS Robot by carcajou · · Score: 1

    I think I trust my Dead Badger running Linux to over a Microsoft Robot when it comes to child care...

  72. The solution for that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft Parent 2086?

    Just imagine the Slashdot posts by then:

    "Thats what happens when you deregulate the robotics market. The fact they license by number of children is unfair!! What if one of my kids is a clone!?!? I want my kids to be raised by an open source father."

  73. MS Screwdriver by berglin · · Score: 1

    "If Microsoft develops a screwdriver, will people refuse to use it?"

    Absolutely not!
    But there will be a lot of whining about how there is a much better, cheaper, and all toghether fantastic =other= screwdriver that the general public is just too stupid to appreciate. Phillips, that is, with a proprietary head! What a nerve.

  74. MOD PARENT UP by CHESTER+COPPERPOT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The parent poster makes a damn good point.

    Technology is not a substitute for people and American culture is becoming so enamoured with technology to the point of forgetting what matters- family, values, and human contact.

    Of course who's to say in the far future that we'll have robots that imitate humans so well that some robots are more emphatic and caring than some people that walk the earth.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by SunFan · · Score: 1


      "...that some robots are more emphatic and caring than some people that walk the earth."

      IIRC, robot brains following the three laws of robotics eventually came to control the world's economies in I, Robot (by Issac Asimov). The three laws bound them to always work for the common good.

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    2. Re:MOD PARENT UP by xenoandroid · · Score: 1

      I don't know... hard coded laws of any kind can backfire. What we really should try to enforce with robots is getting them to understand (if possible) why those laws exist in case they need to be broken. For example, I'd like my robot to knock out another human being if they're trying to harm my child and I wouldn't want it to follow the orders of someone who intends to harm the child.

      Programming a bunch of hard coded if statements is bad when there's a better way in any kind of programming, I'd rather the robot have data on society and make good decisions based on that.

      Just make sure the robot can at least be restrained/stopped in the same way as humans in case something does go wrong. A gunshot to the CPU by the police might be necessary.

    3. Re:MOD PARENT UP by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      You're both idiots who didn't RTFA.

      It's just a baby monitor. It doesn't "raise" or "watch" your kids. It's just a webcam stuck in a teddy bear so you can check in on them while they're sleeping.

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  75. How to Take over the world: Lesson 3.11 by randalware · · Score: 1


    1) Make all people think happy thoughts when they see the MS logo.
    1.1) for best results start at birth
    1.2) induce unhappyness when seeing other brand logos

    Are you kids demanding MS compatable breakfast food, bowl & spoon.
    And throw a fit if the milk has a dairy logo on it?

    Upgrade now to the new MS Milk !
    Available at you local MS-Mart (subscription service required)

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  76. When will it end? by andy1307 · · Score: 1
    The next step will be the MSBot being outsourced to a cheaper bot in India who'll watch over you kid via an internet cam.

    Either way, I'm sure they'll do a better job than most parents.

  77. Super Toys Last All Summer Long... by tillerman35 · · Score: 1
    The AT&T employee volunteer organization called the "Pioneers" does a lot of community service work. One time, they participated experiment designed to help troubled children get therapy. They took apart a cordless phone handset, modified it so that the intercom feature was always on, and put the speaker and mic into a teddy bear. A therapist would then use the base station to speak to the child through the bear. This was quite a while ago (late 80's/early 90's), well before things like furbies and tickle-me elmo - at the time, it was quite high-tech. The idea was that some of these kids had a hard time talking to adults, but they might open up to a teddy bear.

    Personally, I didn't think this was such a good idea. You're taking kids whose grasp on reality is tenuous at best- and now their teddy bear can have real conversations with them? I wonder how many of those kids are adults today, cringing in corners because Teddy Ruxpin keeps telling them to kill, kill, kill!

    1. Re:Super Toys Last All Summer Long... by adzoox · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ha ... and I wonder how many of them have "only told their teddy bears" where the bodies are?

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  78. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    Hurray! A voice of sanity! Praise to you who can see past the idiotic 'technology' ruins our children arguements. Tools are important. How we use them is important. Just because we don't know how to use them 'best' doesn't mean we shouldn't use them at all. Heck, I have driven a nail with the butt end of a screwdriver before. It worked fine. Wasn't pretty, but worked.

    "It's not how you get there, but the goal that matters. "
    "It's not the goal that matters, but how you get there."

    No, it's a reasonable combination of both that is the most successful. Arguements that cause you to have to ignore the tools that simplify you getting to the goal, or arguements that cause you to have to use certain tools regardless of the goal are both wrong. Common sense says you need both. Why is it when people start to argue about the 'pieces' of a concept, they forget the whole picture and completely lose track of what it is all about?

  79. DRM by gt_swagger · · Score: 1

    It's all a ploy to roll out the next step in DRM: Watching your child from BIRTH to make sure he isn't being a dirty digital copyright violator. Beginning at age 3, the robot has begins lecturing on the benefits of DRM, how we are all screwing over the record labels with mp3s, and why he needs to call Microsoft if he ever reinstalls Windows. It will be great, comrade!

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  80. government is needed for more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?"

    When the government raises are kids for us of course. The government will be ultimate babysitter.

  81. Microsoft wins appeal of Eolas case -- no /.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where's the story? The case was sent back for a new trial. No mention here! oops -- we don't report good news for Microsoft on slashdot!

    What a pathetic excuse for a group of editors.

  82. Re:microsoft by bairy · · Score: 1

    The last one reminds me of a very old joke about what if Star Trek's Data ran on MS: http://www.jestsandjokes.com/show.php3?joke=168

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  83. Inanimate? by Peyna · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    What good is an inanimate robot?

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  84. Don't be so sensational. by thgreatoz · · Score: 1

    I don't really see how this is letting "inanimate objects raise our kids". In order for something like this to work, there presumably has to be someone on the other end of the wire watching the camera feed. It's like a higher tech baby monitor - the same as poking your head in the next room to see what little Johnny is doing,only now you can do it from across the house.

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  85. How long before the Teddy starts singing ADS? by rebmaster · · Score: 1

    I can see how this all got started. Some M$ guy watches the movie "AI" and then get the idea:

    "Hey, that kids actually LISTENS and TAKES THE ADVICE OF that little robot Teddy bear... Here's our new meal ticket! Whoo-hoo!"

    Its only a matter of time before the kid's new best friend "Teddy" starts talking up Micro$oft products... And any other company that's willing to pay big bucks to M$ to advertise to a very receptive young audience.

    How long before the robot "G.I. Bill" doll? I can see it now:

    "Come'on little Trooper! Let's go frag some Terrorists and help good 'ol Uncle Sam spread some Democracy!"

    Not good. Just wait and see...

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    1. Re:How long before the Teddy starts singing ADS? by jerzee · · Score: 1

      How long do you think it will be until someone hacks it and it starts playing its own little version of pop-ups. I can just see it now, little Johny sitting there with a teddy saying "Ooooh baby...yeah. that's the right place...ohhh yea....." as it's performing acts on another teddy bear on the bed.

  86. What happened to /.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's it. After 10 years I've had enough of you idiots. Back in the day Slashdot used to be insightful. Mod me down, I don't care, I'm outa here.

  87. Thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoohoo!

    1. Re:Thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the? How is this possible? You just said you were out of here and not coming back. I will never understand you AC.

  88. Teddy Computer by kryogen1x · · Score: 1

    Maybe unrelated but, there is a teddy computer.

  89. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Not only that, but if you read the EULA for your MS screwdriver you will notice that you are allowed to use that screwdriver only on ONE SCREW AND HOLE. When you begin to screw you need to activate the screwdriver and it will register which screw you are using and into which hole you are screwing. You are then free to screw as much as you want in that hole. However it is called "piracy" if you use it on a different screw or hole. Oh, and your screwdriver will check on you from time to time and report back to Microsoft - er I mean it will auto-update...

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  90. Inanimate objects raise our kids by sect0r0 · · Score: 1

    I'm sure the comment was meant in jest, but seriously, we've been doing it with TV for years.

  91. Safe? by Merlin_1102 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think this is a good idea. What happens if a kid bumps his head and knocks himself out. I guess the robot could quickly call someone. That's fine. What happens if a kid falls in a swimming pool. If the robot calls someone, by the time they arrive it might be too late where as a human might be able to do something else. Then again if you let your kids play by the pool I think you should ask yourself some questions.

  92. Yet another excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Unfortunately, this seems like yet another excuse some parent will use to not watch their kids and when something does go wrong, they'll be the first in line at the court suing away their poor parenting.

  93. Formatted Less Retardedly by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

    Yes, I have. These are stories from XP:

    I used to get a BSOD when playing a certain game, which I'm assuming is caused by the laptop overheating. It would blue screen, give an IRQ_LESS_THAN or something like that error, and then reboot. Constantly.

    Also, I just met someone who has a top-of-the-line Alienware with some insane stats and STILL upon loading Doom 3 or loading a saved game of Doom 3, he will get a BSOD. It happens every other time, REGULARLY.

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  94. Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kid by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    It isn't so much that fact, because one day it may be common place for a cyborg nanny to keep the little ones out of trouble, my question is, do you want this thing watching your children? I'm sure MS will no doubt add some sort of wireless beaming technology to update firmware, and for on the fly programming updates, paving the way for your robo-sitter to become infected with a virus that makes the thing murderous. Runaway motif anyone?

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  95. The real use by rexx+mainframe · · Score: 0

    This will be a great new way for MS to monitor your kids to make sure that they aren't illegally downloading music. They would love to have a toy that reports back on file sharing activities. Perhaps is could even check the versions of MS software when the child isn't looking.

  96. You've taken out your Jump-To-Conclusions Mats... by LighthouseJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article just says Microsoft is showing a prototype, not that your own house will be filled with Microsoft robots this evening, so calm down.

    Prototype != Product on Shelves

    Look at car companies, they've been making prototypes for a long time, usually to see how the market responds to a design to test the waters so the vehicle doesn't dive when it's released. Plus, back in the '80's, remember when robots were supposed to be the "new thing", they had robots on display doing household chores, living up to the Jetsons ideal house. As far as I can see the only persistent robot presence is the prohibitively expensive Roomba vacuum cleaner which itself can't be too complex of a robot.

    I guess people just want to regurgitate more BSOD jokes at Microsoft's undefensible expensive. Good job on the originality, guys...

  97. Microsoft eh? by Vordak · · Score: 1

    So, will this robot have a bunch of security issues, where hackers can get in and get the robot to kill the kids?? They better be pushing out updates like no other!

  98. Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everybody knows all robots from Momcorp run on alcohol.

  99. How fucking lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's bad enough that the current generation is a TV generation raised by TV. Now MS wants to raise kids with fucking dolls. talk about fucked up priorities.

  100. Futurama Quote - Robot Trade Show by blatantdog · · Score: 1

    "Hush little baby. I have replaced your mother."

  101. Reading Comprehension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Microsoft announced today that is testing a new toy / robot to watch over kids.

    Nowhere in the article does Microsoft announce any such thing. It's a technology showcase. That's where all kinds of experimental and "concept" products get shown off. To take from that that Microsoft is "announcing testing" is just plain silly, and demonstrates rather poor comprehension.

  102. When will it end? by dep01 · · Score: 1

    It will end when the robots decide they can use us as a fuel source.

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  103. They are here to protect us... by displague · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you have stairs in your house?

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    1. Re:They are here to protect us... by Loren_Burlingame · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am protected

    2. Re:They are here to protect us... by Verteiron · · Score: 1

      Pak. Chooie. Unf.

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    3. Re:They are here to protect us... by srmalloy · · Score: 1
      Do you have stairs in your house?

      Microsoft does not guarantee that stairs installed by third-party vendors will be compatible with Microsoft Teddy; only Microsoft Stairs(tm) are supported natively. If you are experiencing compatibility issues with your vendor-installed stairs, please contact Microsoft tech support to walk you through the procedure to remove your stairs and pre-order your own Microsoft Stair. Please note that the release of Microsoft Stair has been delayed due to difficulties in making each step wheelchair-accesible; after removal of your third-party stairs, your home's second floor will unfortunately be inaccessible until the release of Microsoft Stair. We appreciate your patience.


  104. Whoa by first.last · · Score: 0

    I'd feel safer if Michael Jackson and Pete Townsend babysat my kids.

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  105. This doesn't sound good by bitswapper · · Score: 2, Insightful


    allowing a parent talk to the child through a special phone, or monitor the child via a camera and wireless Internet connection.

    Who else gets to monitor your child, or tell them what to do? "Teddy says go and open the door..".
    Given the track record for home wireless security, and MS's own track record for security, it just seems like the wrong kind of opportunity for the wrong kind of people. Combining microsoft and wireless child monitoring gives a whole new and disturbing dimension to war driving...

    Microsoft is talking with the state Department of Transportation about sharing its interface with the government,

    Now that's reassuring. The US govn't would never abuse such a thing. George Orwell eat your heart out....

  106. Speaking as a parent... by mcocke · · Score: 1

    Hell will freeze over before I'd trust a Miscrosoft robot with my son. I don't even let him run Windows! Can you imagine the EULA for the robot? In the event the thing crashes and hurts the kid, Microsoft isn't responsible for anything over $5.00. Oh yeah, I'll buy one. NOT.

  107. Spoken like a real man by hey! · · Score: 1

    Personally the highlight of my day is coming home...

    Yep, spoken like a real man. For you it's time to relax with the baby. For mom it's time to come up for air ;-)

    Still as a dad I know what you mean. For you moms out there -- this too will pass.

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  108. I am reminded of... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ... the robot toy bear in A.I. that keeps the A.I. kid company on his entire journey through life. The only difference is that a toy like the one in A.I. would actually do a pretty good job and "just work". So it's probably an Apple product. Watch for Sony to jump on the bandwagon and produce something that looks like Astroman to watch over your kid. There will undoubtedly be an open source version made out of discarded Teddy Ruxpins, X10 cameras, and PDA guts and will probably resemble the Paddingtonstein bear. (Remember folks, I'm a free/open source proponent, so this is what is called a JOKE) Then Grundig (a German company) will make Nanabot which will be very strict and won't spare the rod. There are bound to be some designer nanny bots from various "stylish" companies that will cost more than an SUV but will fit in with your Conran and Ikea furnished rooms. And of course, don't forget the fear factor... In capitalist America, we will have security mom avatar bots armed with land-to-air missiles and night vision that will be trained to say, "Don't go near the bushes, there are terrorists in there" and "Remember kids. Don't trust anyone who is Unamerican. If they aren't with us they're against us! Now let's play hopscotch"!

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  109. The most wonderful dream.. by jimbro2k · · Score: 1

    Bender(asleep): "Kill all humans. Must kill all humans."
    Bender(awakened by Fry): "I was having the most wonderful dream. You were in it."

    Are humans defective because so many of us find this funny, or do we just appreciate irony?

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  110. ED209 by gregski · · Score: 1

    In a statement today a microsoft spokesperson stated "we have yet to decide the name of the robot, but the initial favoured model number is ED209"

    ED209: Drop the weapon immediately
    Child: But it's a toy gun!
    ED209: Drop the weapon immediately
    Child: Ok
    ED209: Drop the weapon immediately
    Child: i did, i did
    ED209: 5,4,3,2....

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  111. My god... by CrixelGarten · · Score: 1

    It's the true beginning of the Borg! We will be assimilated into MicroBorg! Resistance is futile, albeit buggy!

  112. I for one... by sailforsingapore · · Score: 1

    ...welcome our new fuzzy overlords...

  113. Get with the program... by TopShelf · · Score: 1

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    In many houses the TV has been performing that job for a long time already...

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  114. MS Support Tells You How-to: by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the maker of Windows itself: How to use the CtrlScroll to crash Windows.

    i imagine this is very, very helpful to some developers who work with data protection and need to test-crash junk all the time.

  115. BSOD = Black Screan of Death by famazza · · Score: 1

    Oh yes, I forgot this issue. BSOD is not an Windows Issue, it an Linux Issue.

    AKA Kernel Panic. Besides, who can rely on a piece of software distributed for free?

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  116. To make good consumers by crovira · · Score: 1

    you don't need the human touch.

    It helps if the humans are already desensitized (see media) abused (see politics) and have no imagination (see education.)

    Then the humans will be ready for integration into the collective. They will be ready to consume unthinkingly.

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  117. Error: Why I won't use it by Game+Genie · · Score: 1

    "Error: Incompatible Opinion Type 1-9-8-4. Initiating Relearning Sequence."

    "At Microsoft, we stand in awe of your achivements...we create software to help you reach your potential...your kid can be an astronaut with MS Office...*KILL KITTENS.*"

  118. Lame robot. by Jakeypants · · Score: 1

    "Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!"

    Must be a lame robot if the thing doesn't even move.

  119. Ugh by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

    As a kid, I'd be first horrified, and then terribly insulted. It's like these idiotic cableless cameras to watch over your kid. All you need to do is look at the TV to see your kid! In color, too!

    Bah.

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  120. how is this new? by shaitand · · Score: 1

    Inanimate objects have been watching our kids for a long time now. They are called computers or if you are stuck in the 80s, TVs.

  121. If you let your kids play by the pool... by caveat · · Score: 1

    You deserve to be removed from the gene pool (no pun intended). Isn't it beautiful how Nature works these things out depsite all our modern-ity? :)

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  122. Inanimate, huh? by AArnott · · Score: 1

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    You said robots. Robots are animated, not inanimate. These are animate objects.

  123. Wait for WLAN on this robots by NoSuchGuy · · Score: 1

    With MS outstanding security reputation, your 5yr. old son want's 3 more inches for his next birthday because of some spyware/adware.

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  124. Scenes we'd like to see... by __aaasvk1266 · · Score: 1

    RoboSitter: "Would you like to play a game?"

    Kid: "Um, ok. What games do you have?"

    RoboSitter: "Checkers, Chess, Go, Global Thermonuclear War."

    **

    I know, I know. Go? I must be dreaming...

    1. Re:Scenes we'd like to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot Minesweeper and Solitare.

  125. Great, will this be in my MSDN Universal Sub? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, will this be available (for free) in my MSDN Universal Subscription?

    Does it run .Net?

    How can I customize it?

    Is it self-updating? (Applying various security and maintenance patches as they become available from Microsoft?)

    Will it feed the dog?

  126. Mandatory ... by cablepokerface · · Score: 4, Funny

    It doesn't work man! I did the registry entries, rebooted and I am pressing ctrl. Then I tap ScrLk once, then t[NO CARRIER]

  127. Microsoft Knowledge Base article by Begemot · · Score: 1

    Q123456

    SYMPTOMS
    In rare conditions TeddyBear version 6.01 may choke babies and sometimes also their parents.

    RESOLUTION
    To resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for TeddyBear version 6.01. After applying the service pack TeddyBear may still shake the babies, but this is by design.

    STATUS
    Microsoft confirmed that this is a problem.

    MORE INFORMATION
    www.linux.com

  128. EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, if you use this robot to watch more than one kid at a time, will that be a violation of the license agreement?

    1. Re:EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod it up!

  129. AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like that little bear in the movie AI.
    That one seemed to work out pretty well.

  130. don't worry. by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    Don't understimate the power of a 2 year old and computers. He might not be able to hack the device, but it better be VERY strong to survive a 2 year old child. (think about strong physical abuse, feeding the bear milk, spilled food, kissing the camera).

    don't forget Arnie lost from the children in kindergarten cop.

  131. Obligatory quote... by Seoulstriker · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your child are belong to us.

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    1. Re:Obligatory quote... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 0

      All my child are gladly give to you. Wife too.

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    2. Re:Obligatory quote... by Elenthalion · · Score: 1

      Okay, that's awesome! :-)

  132. Nothing New by KeystoneAdvantage · · Score: 1

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    What's new about that? The public school system that consumes increasing amounts of kids' (and parents') time and attention is "inanimate" in the worst kind of way: unthinking, unresponsive, undifferentiated, and increasingly automated and centrally controlled, populated by teachers and staff that are becoming more robotic every day.

    Any technology that has the potential to play a part in providing an alternative is welcome.

  133. Teddy The Microsoft Robot Sings The Alphabet... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

    A is NOT for Apple
    B is for Blue Screen
    C is for smelly Communist UNIX hippy programmers because
    D is for nice charming DotNet programmers
    E is for Excel
    F is for FrontPage
    G is for GMail but
    (H is for) Hotmail is better
    I is for Internet Explorer that used to incorporate
    (J is for) Java that we stole from Sun
    K is Knighthood, Lord Billy the Peer
    L is for very nasty hippy communist words we never speak
    M is for money, money, money, money and even more money
    N is for Netscape, who we totally trashed
    O is for Opera, who we'd like to have trashed also
    P is for PowerPoint
    Q is for Halo 2, starts selling at midnight
    R is for Redmond, our place of worship
    S is for Steve Ballmer, Sweaty armpits and Silly dancing
    T is for Trusted Computing because
    U is too stupid to be "trusted" with a computer
    V is for Volume Licensing, our "bread and butter"
    W is for Windows Media Player 10 which bundled with
    (X is for) XP stops
    (Y is for) your playing smelly Communist music we don't want you to and lets us keep you caged in the Microsoft
    (Z is for) human zoo.

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  134. Does $5 offer apply? by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1

    If this product injures or kills your child, does the generous $5 offer still apply?

  135. Finally... by The+Beezer · · Score: 1

    we won't have to think of the children anymore!

  136. Microsoft dba Sirius Cybernetics by mishehu · · Score: 1

    ...but according to the marketting division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, a robot is "Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!"

    Does this device come with the Marvin, Eddie, or Mother personality?

  137. It's worse than that: by teddlesruss · · Score: 1

    ... we're letting Microsoft raise the kids!

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  138. Mod parent back up! by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    to whoever scored the above off topic?
    have you seen the movie? there's this really neat toy teddybear in it.. and it plays with/talks to kids....

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  139. Anyone Remember AI? by davonshire · · Score: 1

    A few years back, this awesome movie about a robot. Also had a toy that the child interacted with.

    Something that seems alot like this is described as. Everyone in the audiance of the theatre I attended. gave a warm awe of amazement watching it move and interact.

    Sure It's just a movie, and sure it's CGI .. but the visual and emotional impact was very palpable.

    Just a thought from my mental Archives.

  140. Not the first time by hanshotfirst · · Score: 1

    If I recall, they tried this several years ago with an interactive Barney the Dinosaur. Anyone remember "Actimates"?

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  141. Ha! by catdevnull · · Score: 1

    Talk about SPYWARE! It works great until it's infected with a worm and goes berserk. Can you imagine a world filled with these MS robots? One day, some smart ass 15 yr old from Bratislava writes a virus for it that makes it start teaching the children profanity and spinning its head like a demon--or worse.

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  142. "I see you're drawing a picture" by hey! · · Score: 1

    "Don't you want to put away those crayons and do it in in Microsoft Paint(tm)?"

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  143. I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

    "Teddy" Story Contest

    I propose a contest. Write a story involving "Teddy". Make it positive, negative, hopeful or pessimistic. Encase the hardware in different shells if you like (A clown or a Jack in the box spring to mind). Is it a gift from parent to child? Is a workaholic parent using it to "Spend time with the kids" while at the office? Is an obsessive individual or a stalker using it to monitor their prey? Is it being used as nothing more than a cuddly baby monitor, sort of a remote control Teddy Ruxpin?

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    1. Re:I propose a story writing contest by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      Bicentennial man anyone?
      As for making a "clown" or "jack in the box" good god man - clowns can be scary - you want to traumatize the kid?

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    2. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      I think Bicentennial Man is more an idea about the evolution of such devices to the point where they become, for all intents and purposes, human. It's a story that, were it to play out, would take another hundred years to even begin,and that's with highly optimistic assumptions about the advancement of AI and robotics technology.

      I'm more interested in the next generation, the near term consequences as society evolves. Assume devices like "Teddy" get past the prototype stage and reach the consumer market at an affordable price. Make some realistic assumptions about the development of technology in the next 2 to 20 years and write a story about the human consequences.

      Bicentennial Man is a great stroy, but it focuses far too much on the machine for this contest.

      This isn't about sentient or semi sentient machines, but about how a device like the "Teddy" would impact human societies.

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    3. Re:I propose a story writing contest by voorth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Harry Harrison beat you to it. Remember "I Always Do What Teddy Says" ?

    4. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      Never heard of it. What's it about?

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    5. Re:I propose a story writing contest by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      Here is my story:

      Fry goes online to napster.com and downloads a Lucy Lu bot, he screws it until it BSOD and kills him.

      THE END.

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    6. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      As that's the only entry so far, I guess it's in the lead to be the winner...

      In which case I'm glad I didn't offer a priz

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    7. Re:I propose a story writing contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When will it end?
      one word: Chobits
    8. Re:I propose a story writing contest by voorth · · Score: 1

      It's been years since I read it, but as far as I recall, the story describes a future where all children are issued a government-provided teddy at birth. This teddy is then used to brainwash them into nice obedient little citizens. The story focuses on a child whose teddy malfunctions, so he grows up thinking for himself.

    9. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      So now I find myself wondering, does he lead a revolution, or end up dead?

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    10. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      Chobits

      Chobits

      Very strange, but well outside the paramaters of the contest, as they're not likely to exist within the next 20 years, even in research labs.

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    11. Re:I propose a story writing contest by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Not shure where you got the 100years from.
      Most predictions place the hardware complexity ariving in about 15-20. Some experts were guessing about mid century up to 2075 for everything to come together.
      Given the general rule of thumb is to ask the experts for a reasonable guestimate and to then devide by half, my guess would be about 2030.
      Just a guess though.

      Mycroft

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    12. Re:I propose a story writing contest by doublem · · Score: 1

      So, would these be the same "experts" who predicted we'd have flying cars, robotic maids, commercial space flight and a moon colony by 2000?

      Based on the past track record of technology related predictions, I'd say predictions are worth the paper they're printed on.

      Besides, just because the hardware complexity reaches the necessary stage doesn't mean the software will. Being able to build a digital brain that equals or exceeds the human brain in complexity and power doesn't mean the software engineers can write code to run it. There are a lot of advances in psychology that need to be made before we can start wiring up our digital successors.

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    13. Re:I propose a story writing contest by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      The technology prediction was pretty much a straight extrapolation of existing trends. And I definately said hardware to exclude software, that is almost certainly the harder part.
      I should have been clearer in my second paragraph. I should have made it clear I was speaking of things we could do IF we wanted to. Both flying cars and more frequent lunar trips could have happened, but we didn't want to bad enough. Technically the flying cars exist, but only in crude prototypes IIRC, so they don't quite count.
      But your point apears close to mine: It's all guesswork at this point. I think sooner than 100 years is more likely if we decide to work on it, but it's still just educated guesswork.

      Mycroft

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  144. Previous art by houghi · · Score: 1

    Let us all read "Robbie, The robot" and realize that they can at least not patent it, as there is previous art in existence.

    In the first robot design they will have a lot of security features like the three laws. Due to the time to market, these are taken out. "Dead children? That is not a bug, it is a feature."

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  145. I'm NOT Falling For It!!!! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
    Teddy the Microsoft robot???

    I mean, COME ON!

    Next you'll be trying to convince me that there's an nutty, rich, in-bred old English woman, with a grandson who dresses up in a Nazi uniform, handing out titles of the British Realm to convicted American monopolists!

    Oh, wait...

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  146. I hope they didn't re-use the Clippy code by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It looks like you are trying to go to the bathroom. Would you like help with that?"

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    1. Re:I hope they didn't re-use the Clippy code by HD+Webdev · · Score: 1, Funny

      "It looks like you are trying to go to the bathroom. Would you like help with that?"

      "You're reading a Slashdot article about how to hack me and turn me into a sex-slave. Please stop your activities."

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  147. Patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well at least they can't patent the concept as it is already described brilliantly in the scifi short story "The Nanny"

  148. Raised by TV by airship · · Score: 1

    I was raised by TV way back when there were only THREE networks and the video was GRAINY and BLACK AND WHITE, and I turned out okay. None of these fancy-schmancy talking robot teddy bears for me...
    HEY! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? I SAID THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ME!!!

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  149. Re:You've taken out your Jump-To-Conclusions Mats. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    usually to see how the market responds to a design to test the waters

    Yes.. the market is responding.. your point is...?

  150. A joke isn't necessarily a hostile act! by xtermin8 · · Score: 1

    Generally Geeks aren't known for their sense of humor, but certain jokes strongly identifies one within a certain group. (Would your mom get the BSOD jokes?) Prepare yourself to hear BSOD jokes for a long, long time to come. That said, MS should never have let 95 or 98 to be released as such a mess in the first place, and nothing will change that (or make up for it, now)

  151. "Psssst! Hey, kid!... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

    ...Go pester Daddy to go buy a legitimate copy of XP and this ice cream's yours!"

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  152. Outsourcing by Shoten · · Score: 1

    Have you noticed how most parents act these days? Hell, we let the inanimate objects that pass as "parents" raise their own kids, why not let some other object do it? At least the kid won't feel like the inability of the device to tell them that something is wrong won't seem like tacit approval.

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  153. Windows: Kids Edition by JDStone · · Score: 0

    Great, just what I want, Windows watching my kids...

  154. In other news... by mackman · · Score: 1

    Linus, Alan, and the CEOs of Red Hat, Mandrake, and SuSE were supprised to receive a "good luck" bear from Microsoft.

  155. Does it come with fries? by cyk · · Score: 1

    Does it come with fries and a shake?

    1. Re:Does it come with fries? by cyk · · Score: 1

      damn firefox and too many tabs. wrong post :)

  156. my name is Tina by IAR80 · · Score: 1

    Hi my name is TINA!

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  157. Nothing New by imadoofus · · Score: 1

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    This is different from the TV how?

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  158. Let's not jump the gun by h4ter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's slow down here. This isn't some nannybot (a), and (2) the thing's just like a cuddly baby monitor with more features. Are parents who have normal walkie-talkie-esque baby monitors somehow letting radio waves raise their children?

    Come on, Archangel.

    1. Re:Let's not jump the gun by Wes+Janson · · Score: 0

      At least, it isn't now. Hence the concern.

  159. we already are ! by peter_garner · · Score: 1
    "letting inanimate objects raise our kids!"

    How many parents say "go and watch TV while we ... *insert activity here*" ? If TV isn't inanimate then what is ?

  160. has to be done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone has to protect our children from linux

  161. anti-trust by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

    I predict one year after this product releases, someone hacks the firmware and discovers that the teddy is programmed to wake up at 2am, seach the house for Linux or Mac computers, and destroy them.

  162. Blue screen of Death ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... may have a new meaning ... ... Microsoft is not responsinble for any deaths of your children that may happen due to the robot malfunction ...

  163. wtf!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey is it a joke, huh? If their OS doesn't work imagine their "robotic nany". I bet if you put a baby to be cared by one of this, when it gets 12 years old probably will be smocking crack or something like. Nasty huh?

  164. Ethics of Robot Design by mtz206 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The issues and concerns raised here relate directly to an informal seminar I attended yesterday with Prof. Sherry Turkle of MIT's Program in Science, Technology, and Society. Prof. Turkle spoke about her research for her forthcoming book on "evocative objects" - technologies we use to think with, to think about ourselves and our relationships. Her work has focused on "relational artifacts," robots designed to forge relationships with people - especially useful for both children and the elderly. Examples include the therapy robot Paro (a baby seal) and Hasbro/iRobot's My Real Baby.

    During our discussion, important value and ethical issues arose in the design and use of such "relational robots." These robots are meant to create bonds and simulate "authentic" relationships. They react to voices, track their owner's eyes, respond and project emotions, and so on. Yet, they remain robots - all these actions and reactions are programmed - pre-determined. So, how do the designers decide what emotions to program and which to omit? In an effort to be realistic, My Real Baby gets happy as well as sad. If you bounce her when she's happy, she gets more happy; if you bounce her when she's fussy, her fussiness only increases. How should she react, then, if she is abused? It is not hard to imagine a child (especially one who is herself a victim of abuse) to violently shake, strike or otherwise "abuse" the doll. How should this evocative object respond? Should she show pain? Begin to cry? Eventually "pass out" or even "die" if the abuse continues? How "real" should the robot be in order to create an "authentic" relationship?

    [In the end, the designers wanted the doll/robot to react as a child would, with pain and sadness. However, the company's lawyers stepped in and were concerned that any type of response by the doll might encourage further abuse (stimulus-response theory), and they didn't want to be accused of actually encouraging abusive behavior. In the end, the doll simply did not react to abuse.]

    Other ethical dilemmas related to the design of such robots included whether they should be capable of deception or betrayal, two common features of human relationships. Or, should they "die." On one hand, the experience of death as part of the life cycle is an important part of psychological development and would add to the "authenticity" of the relationship. On the other hand, one of the benefits of these robots seems to be the avoidance of the emtional damage that can happen when a "real" companion (whether a human friend, or even a companion dog) dies.

  165. Re:Look, he made a BSOD joke! He's funny AND origi by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    The danger isn't the BSOD, it's the DRM. Your average shiny new "RobotXP" is going to be a wonderful thing right up until your child starts singing a song that's copyrighted. Most of them will get away with it because lets face it, kids generally can't sing. Sooner or later though one of them's going to hit the right notes and sound just close enough to the original version to activate the DRM software.

    Then it will strangle the kid and dismember it to locate the non-DRM's music file inside of the child. At the same time it'll be reporting the violation and your home address to the authorities.

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  166. Re:Look, he made a BSOD joke! He's funny AND origi by fanblade · · Score: 3, Informative

    Talk about misleading articles. The summary implies the thing watches your kids, gets up and shouts, "ur kid has been pwned!!" and continues to carry him off somewhere.

    Then I RTFA and see it's a baby monitoring device. Everyone can simma down nah.

  167. For Really, REALLY Lazy Parents (And Negligence..) by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1
    There is the Podee Hands-Free Baby Bottle, which means you dont even have to stop typing to feed your kid.... and even more horrifying, there is the Baby Bottle Cradle, which FORCES your child to drink, even when it doesn't want to! Even when it just wants to breathe, you're forcing milk down it's throat! Look how happy that kid looks! And fat!

    I am a parent, and as a parent, I've made some observations about everyday life. And I have to say, parnts who would buy these for their children need to have their children taken away from them, right fugging now.

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  168. Hackable? by phorm · · Score: 1

    Indeed... with such a device I could be very fun to hack given time. Maybe we could end with something similar to "Teddy" for A.I.

    And of course there's the added joy of shocking people by editing the default dialog to something a bit more interesting...

  169. plz remember the natural order, kthx bye! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    Procreation first, mindless slavelike drudgery to obtain unneccessary luxuries second.

    A family can easily get by on one salary. If they are willing to limit themselves to a 1950's quality of life.

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    1. Re:plz remember the natural order, kthx bye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit! It's not easy getting by on a single salary, not when the corporations and government keeps screwing you. Even limiting yourself to a 1950's quality of life is not sufficient. If you have a home, especially an older one, maintaining it costs nearly $5,000 a year partly due to unforseen wear and tear in addition to a mortgage and taxes.

      In the 1950's, I'd probably be able to save some of that money, but now, I'm just about breaking even on a single salary. Now that the economy is slowly back on track I'll have to look for that second job to be able to run up some savings again.

  170. This is nothing new at all. by jestered1 · · Score: 1
    There are already plenty of households where the parents have purchased an inanimate Microsoft product to mind the kids for them. It's a little-known MS project called the X-Box.

    I think there may be a couple of other companies in the same market.

  171. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our new robotic overlords

  172. I want... by blue_adept · · Score: 1

    I want the Bill Gates borg doll.

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  173. IT'S FUNZO!!!!! by jzarling · · Score: 1

    New from Microsoft and Kid First Industrys, FUNZO.

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  174. Too Late to Stop it Now by TexasCowboy23 · · Score: 1

    Does this sound as ominous to anyone else other than me? I am suddenly filled with a groan that sounds remarkably like 'Oh sh|t'. All those episodes of The Outer Limits are coming back to haunt me. 'Hey, honey, I don't want to play with the kids today. Let Gideon do it.' Or 'Hey, babe, go cook dinner for me while I go screw Valerie and Mary.'

    *shiver*

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  175. TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    TV has been doing it for years.

  176. EVIL by Agarax · · Score: 1

    This is just another excuse for the Big Man to start implanting our houses with more spyware that will condition our kids to worship the Corporate Machine! [adjusts tinfoil hat]

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  177. The Master Plan by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1

    Very interesting that just a few days ago Bill Gates blasted the education community as being obsolete. Now, Microsoft powered nanny cams to allow parents to go off and persue their interests. Doesn't seem like a very consistant message.

    Unless, of course, the school reform he seeks includes tons of Microsoft products in the classrooms. Perhaps there is a Microsoft Teacher product in the works as well.

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  178. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A use for all those VB programmers.

  179. next outbreak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great. now those asshats that write all the POS programs that not only instal themselves without consent, but can also change the registry can now add to the registry a way to BSOD everyone. Add it to a worm/virus and it could get ugly. Like a later post said, add DWORD CrashOnRightMouseClick, or even CrashOnEnter, and there could be mayhem

  180. As Homer Simpson said... by wyldwyrm · · Score: 1

    Hope this one hasn't already been posted, but here goes... "I found out you could just set 'em down in front of the TV. That's how I was raised and I turned out TV."

  181. You have 20 seconds to comply! by sideshow · · Score: 1

    NannyBot: Put down that marker! You have 20 seconds to comply.

    Your kid drops the Sharpie he has been using to write on the hallway wall

    NannyBot: Put down that Marker! You have 15 seconds to comply.

    Your Kid: I did! It's on the ground. See?

    NannyBot: Put down that Marker! You have 10 seconds to comply!

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  182. Re:You've taken out your Jump-To-Conclusions Mats. by SunFan · · Score: 1

    The article just says Microsoft is showing a prototype, not that your own house will be filled with Microsoft robots this evening, so calm down.

    Actually, Microsoft's track record is that version on store shelves _is_ the prototype.

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  183. Microsoft's Legal Liability... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    If the Microsoft robot has a blue screen of death (BSOD) while watching the kid, the kid plays "Duke Half-Doom 5004: Death To The Pigs!" (a Mature-related game with extreme cartoon violence) on his older sibling's computer, and the kid goes on a neighborhood rampage with his daddy's bazooka and pineapples left in the hallway closet, is Microsoft legally liable for the kid's action?

    I have the funny feeling that the answer could be this.

  184. Re:BSOD - More like ROD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're right, the default behavior (unless you specify otherwise) for XP is to reboot when it gets in a jam. So technically, there's no more blue screen, but I've never had a Linux system spontaneously reboot, except for that time the power supply fried. It's not uncommon for my XP machine to spontaneously reboot. I thought it was my hardware, but since then, I've used the old XP hardware to upgrade the Linux box, and put all new hardware in the XP box. XP still reboots, Linux does not.

    XP is a big step forward, and I'm generally happy with it compared to every previous version of Windows, but it's still not rock solid under constant load and has a strange multi-user design, one that I fear has some bugs in it (that may result in data loss). Other than that, I agree the BSOD jokes are tiresome, regardless of whether or not Windows is stable.

  185. how kids grow up and learn to live by davids-world.com · · Score: 1
    It might be useful to look at studies in learning / psychology. I don't find it surprising that children learn by interacting with their environment - the technological equivalent might be reinforcement learning, or simply put, trial and error. That, of course, stipulates that there they need an environment! If the environment contains colored bricks and other physical objects, that's fine and it'll help children develop motor and perception-related skills. But both the linguistic and the social development might be considered far more important at some stages. For language acquisition, interaction with a parent (dialogue!) is assumed to be vital (radio, TV or recordings don't do the job).

    And that's where merely watching the child and avoiding accidents and the like isn't enough - child-minding means interacting with the children. A robot won't do this.

    Maybe, for evolutionary reasons, parents love to interact with their kids, because it secures the proper development and thus survival of their offspring. (I don't enjoy it that much - that's why I don't have kids yet! And I certainly won't get kids and have a robot take care of them!)

  186. Alright by musicman2059 · · Score: 0
    Sure, give parents an even better reason not to raise their kids properly. Leave it to Micro$oft!

    At least in my case I know I can't handle kids, so I'm not having them.

    My question is this: How many kids who have this "toy" are going to become murderers due to lack of parenting and discipline? (Probably not very many, but I really don't wanna know.)

    On the other hand, however, a good parent might actually be able to put this to good use, and it could become really handy... until it crashes from some bug, god forbid, but then again, it would be the first toy that could watch over a child AND spontaneously crash. (However, I'm confident that Microsoft can do something like this without messing it up royally.) However, if a parent needs to take their eyes off their child for a few minutes, probably up until an hour or two (given that they're home) then it'll help more than hurt. (Of course, a couple of days at a time would be just plain dumb, and that goes back to my drunken drugged murderers comment.)

    So in one way, this could be good, and in others, it could be bad. It all depends on how it's used.

    It'll work until either the child gets bored with it, or he/she comes into the room completely blue, saying, "A fatal exception has occured."

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  187. We are the space robots by generationxyu · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Pak Chooie Unf
    We are the space robots.
    We are here to protect you.
    We are here to protect you from the terrible secret of space.
    I am the pusher robot.
    I shove around the blind people.
    I am the shover robot.
    I push bread down their throats.

    Pushing is the answer.
    Pushing will protect you from the terrible secret of space.
    Do not trust the pusher robot.
    Shoving is the answer.
    Shoveing will protect you from the terrible secret of space.

    Do you have stairs in your house?
    Please go to the top of the stairs so I can protect you.

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  188. Creepy... by vonwilkenstein · · Score: 1
    Add Wifi and you have an enormous survailance network into consumers homes. I feel safer already

    ...Your Honor, The defedants' nanny-bot recorded these images.....clearly you see the defendant engaging in an indecent act right in the living room..

  189. HEADLINE by DrDebug · · Score: 2, Funny

    MICROSOFT ROBOT ATTACKS FIREFOX USER

    (ap) A brief but violent incident between a new Microsoft 'nanny' robot and an Internet user was reported today.

    "I had just activated the nanny robot and placed it next to my keyboard when I tried to access the Internet for further instructons" said the victim. "Suddenly the robot attacked me, biting my hands and trying to chew off my fingers. I just barely escaped. I had to beat the robot to death with my baseball bat. The only thing I can imagine why it attacked was because I was using the Firefox browser, and not Internet Explorer."

    The visibly-shaken victim's injuries were treated at a local hospital, and he was released. Microsoft had no comment, other than to say there will be a patch issued soon.

    --30--

  190. Log error message by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

    The child has performed an illegal operation and will be terminated.

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  191. Define "Good Behavior" by robbway · · Score: 1

    The robot will be least active when the children exhibit good behavior. "Good Behavior" in children is characterized as being quiet and not moving. All the makings of West Daycare World.

  192. I had one of these: by beyond_the_blue · · Score: 1

    quoted from the article:
    The teddy bear sitting in the corner of the child's room might look normal, until his head starts following the kid around...

    I had a teddy bear that did that when I was a kid. Only, he wouldn't do it when my parents were around...

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  193. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Kaydet81 · · Score: 1

    Actually I think M$oft has done much better with hardware than with software - I very much prefer their ergonomic keyboards and mice over any others I have used. If Sir Gates were to spin off a tools business, would he call it Microhard? Or would that suggest too much about the size of his tools?

  194. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe 90% of readers here at slashdot would boycot anything usefull made my microsoft purely because its made by them.

    Microsoft isnt the proverbial "Evil Empire" you all make it out to be, now dont get me wrong I'm a linux user as well myself, but if I were on top of the PC software industry I wouldnt want to step down would you? There is reason why they do the things they do, albeit some of them are quite ridiculous and shifty at times, [70%]. But Geez give em' a break!

  195. Re:You've taken out your Jump-To-Conclusions Mats. by LighthouseJ · · Score: 1

    Seeing as how the point escaped you, I'll try to restate it for you.

    The market is responding now, but in the future, if the market proves to be favorable by good reviews from reputable news agencies and public opinion, then it's a good indicator the product will be profitable, plus it's a good way to generate buzz. Afterall, if you were a car company and came out with a new radical design for a car, would you listen to a 12-year editor column on your car in the new issue of Reputable Car Magazine A or some rant left by Anonymous Coward on a message board on Car Enthusiast Website B?

    Microsoft isn't going to listen to Slashdot no matter how much the Slashdot crowd thinks they should be listened to. The regular patrons of Slashdot that post do not provide an accurate cross-section of the consumers Microsoft is aiming for. The article indicates the demographic this product is aimed to sell to are families with kids, presumably with a strong income, nice house and of course kids that are old/young enough to be entertained by teddy bears. When I think of families of this type, they have a father that goes out one day and gets a Sony because it looks nice and smooth. The desktop is preinstalled with Microsoft's Windows XP OS without flinching because he uses it at work and trusts it. Slashdot caters to a much different segment of the buying public and to Microsoft if they read all of this, is totally moot to them.

  196. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 1

    Everyone here would certinly claim that no one should use it but they would all be secretly using it anyway because it just plain works and does what they need it to do.

    While the Linux screwdriver comes in 75 pieces and 150 options that must all be sorted before it can be used (This takes about a week on average).

    Even then, you have to make your own screws for it becuase there are so many configuration combinations that the chance of anyone else's Linux screw working with your Linux screwdriver are nil.

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  197. Technically... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robots are _animate_ objects.

    A teddy bear with only stuffing inside is an inanimate object.

  198. Microsoft Robots to Eat Kids by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

    Microsoft provides full indemnification against Kid Eating events, up to a maximum of $5.

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  199. Never thought his old troll would be on-topic by The+Desert+Palooka · · Score: 1

    But what if? Just a quick replacement of the company name and viola!

    Microsoft Corporation has announced the completion of their latest home entertainment robot, OBIT. OBIT manifests as a human skull 3.1 meters in height, equipped with two stubby robot legs and an extensible fanged proboscis described by surviving journalists as "indescribable", "ravenous", and "obscene".

    OBIT is powered by a 500 hp diesel-electric fuel cell located in the area of the cranium traditionally reserved for the medulla oblongata. This configuration allows for extended operation in low-oxygen environments as well as the "silent stalking" behavior demonstrated to such dramatic effect at Tuesday's eventful press conference.

    OBIT is also equipped with sophisticated magnetic resonance imaging equipment enabling 98% accurate detection of the presence of an advanced central nervous system in organisms variously defined as "visitor", "prey", "family member", "clergy", or "passer-by". Complex neural-net technology allows all detected instances of CNS regardless of category to be recategorized as "prey". "Prey" instances are greeted with prompt action when target acquisition phase is complete! Graceful proboscis extends rapidly, providing spectator great joy as jaws open wide and gleaming fang extend. Studies show most immediate immobilization benefit in prompt attack to legs; hence OBIT prefer leg-first approach. Quaint antics of disabled prey may be observed by all as limbs are removed, followed by educational vivisection of torso and head accompanied by instructional lecture. Excellent consistency in results is obtained.

    Remains of owner and guests to be disposed of at all times in accordance with applicable statutes of local municipality.

    from:
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=29613 &cid=3188 855

  200. Can't be any worse... by jonadab · · Score: 1

    Can't be any worse than letting a television set fill the same function.

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  201. We already have inaminate objects as babysitters.. by wherrera · · Score: 1

    We already have inaminate objects as babysitters...they are called TV sets.

    And yes, I don't like the idea :0

  202. That depends on the end user licensing agreement by LordIvan · · Score: 1

    Would it be an open source screwdriver?

  203. Whoohoo an expensive baby intercom by paperclip2003 · · Score: 1

    From the article: "The teddy bear sitting in the corner of the child's room might look normal, until his head starts following the kid around using a face recognition program, perhaps also allowing a parent talk to the child through a special phone, or monitor the child via a camera and wireless Internet connection." How is this different from a baby monitor? I don't think they are even talking about someone leaving the house with this. People have used baby monitors for years (intercom) and this is nothing new. How would a BSOD even effect this? It does not say anything about walking and talking, just following the child like a security camera. Instead of sweeping around the room, always following the child with face recognition. This enables you to have your monitor in the restroom when you need to go. Also these are ideas of products and not actual products -- this is like going to a car show and seeing concept cars, often these are never made in production.

  204. You are missing an opportunity here. by geekoid · · Score: 1

    I have a 4 year old and a seven year old.
    I would buy one of these, but not to watch them, to watch the baby sitter.

    When my children are involved I take a page from Regean: "Trust, but verify."

    On the up side, If these things go to market, they will prbably fail. That means Cheap parts for me.

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  205. It's a little more complex then that. by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The economy has gotten to a point where to be middle class, you need a two incomes. So many people end up in a situation where they have no time.

    Quit frankly, this country need a big push to go back to a single income families.

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    1. Re:It's a little more complex then that. by Loco3KGT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yea right, good luck with that. Women's Rights groups will castrate you for suggesting it.

      Men just wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

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      Blessed be he who reads this post, Cursed be he who tells my boss.
  206. I'm ahead of the curve on this one by Matt+Apple · · Score: 1
    I've been letting Roomba raise my daughter for months now.

    My floors have never been cleaner but my daughter keeps coughing up dust bunnies.

  207. teddy Ruxpin by Cutting_Crew · · Score: 1

    how about an enlarged Teddy Ruxpin..?

  208. Shameful by mgdupont · · Score: 1

    How can we, as a society, even think of delegating care of a child to a toy? It's bad enough we expect TV to babysit them. Now we're going to ask Teddy Ruxpin to keep them from falling into the swimming pool?! Whose responsibility ARE children, anyway, if not their parents'?

  209. Very good meta-joke. And on topic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very good meta-joke. And on topic.

  210. Sounds familiar... by jamrock · · Score: 1
    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids!

    Anyone else had a flashback to the 1984 Tom Selleck sci-fi thriller Runaway? Just make damn sure the little bastards can't hold a .357 Magnum in their manipulators. Or that the system developers don't look like Gene Simmons.

    1. Re:Sounds familiar... by c_dog · · Score: 1

      Actually, I flashed back to "Lost in Space" (the TV show, not the movie).

  211. In other news... by suitepotato · · Score: 1

    "Tonight in Patterson, NJ, we have sad news that another RoboSitter 2007 went berzerk and spray painted the words 'Linux Rulez' across the faces of the children it was protecting, blinding two of them. Authorities believe that a neighbor exploited a buffer overflow defect in the robot's program and the parents has not downloaded any patches from Microsoft because they were Macintosh users."

    This could go sooo wrong in the future. But right now, I'd rather worry about the TV.

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  212. COOL! by soceror · · Score: 1

    Looks like Sony Aibo got a friendly competition

    about Bsod, in my humble opinion, think it's not entirely MS' fault. a line screw up in bios can easily cause this. and don't argue "it doesn't happen to *nix". well, it doesn't happen cuz it just crash/shutdown.

    I know... I've been there... thanks to ATI's demo chipsets...

  213. Fred's sake? by crimson30 · · Score: 1

    "Oh, for f***'s sake." If you've ever had a driver that wasn't written just perfect, you have definitely seen the dreaded BSoD"

    I had a good laugh a few years back. I put a new memory module in a Linux box and when I booted it up, the text "Something is really F****d Up!" appeared.


    What the fuck are those asterisks supposed to be for?

  214. Seems that someone at MS just watched A. I. by cylcyl · · Score: 1

    This so reminds me of that teddy bear in the movie AI. I'm waiting for the next rev where they put the tech of Robosapien with this.

  215. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a marriage license.

  216. Parents...Be careful by Master+Ben · · Score: 1

    This may only the beginning of a new line of robot sitters that MS puts out.

    Soon they will come up with a biological/robot hybrid to ease concerns of machines watching the kids. Then they will guarantee that your children will be better behaved by injecting them with "nanites". Which is why parents must be careful, because some time dow the road everyone will be sitting at dinner and the following conversation will take place:

    Parents: Why aren't you eating your vegetables?

    Kids all turn heads at same time to parents Kids: Vegetables are irrelevant

    And I think we all know where the story goes from there.

  217. Repeat after me ... Windows is good Linux is Evil by SlashingComments · · Score: 1

    that's all the robot will say, kind of like Fox news.

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  218. Telescreens by xstonedogx · · Score: 1

    The teddy bear sitting in the corner of the child's room might look normal, until his head starts following the kid around using a face recognition program, perhaps also allowing a parent talk to the child through a special phone, or monitor the child via a camera and wireless Internet connection.

    Kid does something he's not supposed to do and it's "YOU ARE THE DEAD!"

    "YES, IT WAS IN THE TEDDY BEAR."

  219. War-perving? by ozbird · · Score: 1

    Video camera + wireless Internet connection + kids? Is Microsoft asleep at the wheel, or do they see a large market for voyeurs?

  220. Assimilate this MS-1 by Papparazzi · · Score: 0

    If it is twice as entertaining as bob, clippy and the stupid talking dog, kids will ignore it in two seconds. When my kids were growing up they would rather play with trash than most toys. with trash they cold get into things they weren't supposed to, and use their imagination building things out of it.
    How is the crazy thing going to make them listen, shock collars. I suppose that will be the next BSOD, the Random Robot Electrocution Phenomenon?
    Another project for the dumb idea file

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  221. Chobits... by IronMagnus · · Score: 1

    Chi?

  222. The point of the ending by adzoox · · Score: 1

    No, they specifically explained that they would recreate David's mother from the strand of hair, able to pull her existence from the fabric of time, she would only be able to have memory of David in the present as her son because she had no other memory. David spent a few hours with her - creating memories FOR her in the timespace she was alotted.

    Your moderation proves who's the dumb one I think.

    The most accepted theory is that they were aliens - this was also touched on by Spielberg in interviews AFTER the "controversy" popped up on the internet.

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  223. inanimate? by TheLastUser · · Score: 1

    Is a robot inanimate? I think, by definition, not. Perhaps non-sentiant, but certainly animate.

  224. Re:Obligatory quote... Welcome robot overlords by JuzzFunky · · Score: 1

    You know what they say about the hand that rocks the cradle...

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  225. Danger! by sPaKr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Danger Will Gates, Danger DANGER!

  226. (ducks) by Taiq · · Score: 0

    Yes, but does it run Linux?

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  227. Oh my by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will somebody please think of the children!

  228. Brain washin by sven_eee · · Score: 1

    microsoft give there products to schools to get them hooked early, to me it sounds like they want to get them hooked even earlier, so now kids can learn to hate m$ products before they can talk, [sVen]

  229. The End by batousai · · Score: 0

    Now we are letting inanimate objects raise our kids! When will it end?

    With a BLUE ROBOT OF DEATH!

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    1. Re:The End by Mitiaj · · Score: 0

      At least they will teach our kids one useful thing: that the name of God is Bill Gates.

  230. The Prophecy of Laurie Anderson by TPFH · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Oh Superman
    'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice. And when justive is gone, there's always force. And when force is gone, there's always Mom. Hi Mom! So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. In your automatic arms. Your electronic arms. In your arms. So hold me, Mom, in your long arms. Your petrochemical arms. Your military arms. In your electronic arms.
    Here come the planes....
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  231. I just worry about it getting spyware by CGameProgrammer · · Score: 1

    Just imagine having the robot being hijacked.

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  232. Re:Microsoft, scapegoat, evil empire, 'ware provid by Feanturi · · Score: 1

    If Microsoft develops a screwdriver, it will be almost like a philips but with 5 points instead of 4, and will only tighten properly when turned counter-clockwise otherwise it gets stripped, requiring that you upgrade all screws to MS screws, coming soon after.

  233. people, technophobes, luddites -- it's just a toy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I can tell it's a toy that interacts in the real world, and you can optionally use it to check in with your kid when you're at the office or on the road. What is the big deal?

    Sony's robot toys interact in the world, but they're not too cuddly (and kind of expensive if you ask me).
    Cell phones and computers already do person to person communication, sometimes with video.

    So somebody combined both ideas and put fur on it. It's not the end of the world!