Im going to buz a playstation 2 if this is any good,I had heard about it,so hopefully cedega will support it or thez will make a mac port , either that or im going to spend a fortune on a PS2 (as opposed to that star destroyer model)
well i have browser cach on,so the minute i viewed the site i had broken that license plus it dosnt count if you havnt clicked on in that oh so legaly binding fashion.It was my cats;)
I agree in part However.. All you do is burn them to an iso/toast , i belive you can do this with toast mount iso/.toast then rip them to mp3 using one of the many programs out there. Easy to do and whilst not the quickest works and is perfectly legal and the average person is not going to be buying more than 1 album at a time so it really only takes a couple of minutes for your new stuff
Now i strongly dislike all DRMs and disagree with them , however the Itunes DRM is the best of a bad lot it allows the use on 5 computers , and the ability to burn an unlimited number of CDs from your music(iirc) so with ease i have converted all my itunes music to mp3 and ogg whilst keeping the origional m4p's on my mac
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on the developers license for morhpos So i would say if they are using GNU licensed code , like a GCC version for morphOS then they seem like a rather heavy violater
after doing some more reading i discoverd this http://www.morphos.net/ morphos.net where many morphos developers are rather irate over lack of payment
Ive said it before and I'm sure i will be saying it again Witch hunt This is nothing more than a simple ploy by some politicians to push ahead on the morals front. If you don't want your children to play these games then please do so parenting and don't let everyone else suffer from increasingly restrictive laws due to your moral sence of misplaced duty. Most of us here played games as violent as these when we were kids , The graphics may not have been as good , though kids have great imaginations. I turned out OK, Most of the other people here turned out OK.
Violent games don't make violent people go to a maximum security prison and asked some of the inmates about their childhood,I am willing to place a hefty wager that it was not computer games that made them angry and violent
Right now it reall is not that impresive , i can just turn it off and on with a BT switch and another switch to change the strength settings I do intend one day to have a switch to control the water flow , a little train to drive the cup to my desk etc, and possibly some form of robot to change the coffe and clean the filter but that seems a bit tricky
a small hack and really , less imprsivbe than it sounds
HD will be the future of consoles , as it will be the future of TV. The question is not if , it is when. Tv standerds will contiune to improve and pixel counts will push ever updward, Now that These standerds are making the way to the market it is clear that we will see them in games (many have suported HDTV since 2000 or so iirc ). I expect normal standerds to hang on for a good while longer though
As i sit here with a Giant collection of lego star wars toys , several half wrecked old machines servering various services,a reference book collection to rival that of a national library,an Espreso machine controled via blue tooth, An ever encroaching beard since i lost my shaving kit under a pile of a Punch cards and a wrist time device that runs linux,,, I begin to think that this story is far too geeky.. 1010101010 is way cooler anyhow
Now many will call me a Microsoft basher and i unashamedly am and with a dammed good reason. The insecurity of microsoft OSs does not just effect those who want to use (or dont know they have other options)windows, but it effects me and my peers. I know * linux,HPUX,Solaris,OS X(maybe i should just include this in *BSD) and *BSD are not perfect and have some security issues , though nothing on this scale(my opinion ) , you can use the argument about if blah had blah monopoly then blah would be just as cracked (which i think is rubbish and doth not change the fact that it is only and if as it isnt so cant be proven) So as a user of the internet on my chosen Unix variants at home and at work I still have to suffer microsofts lackluster Network security through the set-up of botnets. Spam - DDOS and freinds continue to plauge our internet services. Fine blame the average user for not updating etc , the fact remains that a person who is skilled in other areas should not need to have the knowlidge level of a Tech or even System admin or developer just to be able to safely use a computer (Ease of use is a difrent kettle of fish)
Sorry for the rant , but I am rather narked off at Spam nets
Motorola is in the huff as they are not getting any free marketing so they huff and they puff and a slashdot story apears , Free advertising to the target audiance *cough*
Now even worse , as they are not getting any free advertising they are delaying the phone and stabing a potentialy large profit in the foot , Has anyone told them apple make verly little profit on Itunes and make most of it from hardware sales..
An important factor is , What machine are avaliable to you , if any. A great deal of teaching revolves around commen referance.
You can find the best text in the world , but if it requires you use an IBM PC and your stuck with a bunch of colico computers then it wont be much use to your
It is also 3 times the size of a mac mini,Perhaps a little more beef , but still.ok perhaps i am a little shallow but it still is not as nice looking So what we have is , a pc notebook in the shuttle form
perhaps im too harsh , as i can imagine a silent x86 system would be lovely. The problem is , i dont see intel building the amd64 extensions onto the pentium M anytime soon ( unfortunatly) or even duel core. and they will contiune to beat the dead p4 horse for a long time to come.
((on a side note , does anyone have any benchmarks comparing a pentium m procesor to a G4))::please note i am not only a mac zelout , i am also an AMD,BSD and linux zelout (jk)
I would disagree that it makes it correct , it makes it commenly accepted but that is nothing like correct use. to use a slight hyperbole , in the 16th centuary most of the world thought that this planet was flat and the sun moved across it , it was a commenly held thesis , the use of such terminolgy was commen but we know now it was a tinny bit inacurit
and to the grandparent , i was not insulting your idea so keep your boxers on,i was mearly putting a counter argument so no reason to duck in with the spelling correction ( i know how badly i spell already)
Basicaly any person with enough skill to make a rulling on the viability of linux in the enterprise market should be a person with the skill to diferentiate between a kernel and an OS.
Would you take health advice from a doctor who couldnt understand the difrence between your left arm and your left ventrical
Just because people say something it dosn't make it correct. Linux is a kernel not a name for a full OS , xerox is a company not a copying machine , hover is a company not an alternat word for vacume.
You can tell me what i can do to my legaly purchased goods all you want,the fact is im not going to listen if it comes into effect where i live , Its called civil disobediance. The fact is people buy products not licenses to use them in this case , mod chips are illegal because they potentialy could enable the use of pirate games. now lets look at the logic here, If i am going to use an illegaly cloned game i bought at some back street store or got online , do you think i would have any qualms about also getting a modchip sent to me and installing it, the simple awnser is "Probbaly not ". Now if i wanted to modify my console to turn it into someform of server , or homebrew test kit for making my own games then i may just think twice. The real reason they dont want people doing this is not the piracy issue as they know that people will pirate anyway and this will only make it a tiny bit more inconveniant. The real reason i belive is that of two things , They profit from Games sales not hardware(thus homebrew is a problem or could potentialy be int he future , and people turning it into something else) and the fact that region encoding is not an anti piracy mesure but a way to make sure people dont benifit from better prices in difrent regions.
TO bring out an old addage i have used many times before , Are Guns illegal as they facillitate murder which is infact the sole purpose of handguns (to kill),In most countrys Yes it is illegal for a person to own a gun but not to mod a console, In America however no. I wont get into the gun ownership debate , but i will say this Please have equal standerds , the same applys to P2P programs , just because they may be used to break the (civil)law , it dosn't mean they should be illegal. Mod chips , just as guns and Beer and bread knifes may all be used to break the law. They also may all be used to respectivly , Install linux on your xbox or so on,Um cant think of one for guns... maybe hunt... And Spread butter on your bread.
Well i can see How it got the Apple topic , as any advances on linux for power will also aid linux on PPC (Thus Mac hardware,and newer Amigas for that matter)
as you can see some of the instruction sets are a little diffrent however the core architecture is very simmilar and iirmprc(my press releases corectly) PPC is Power for the home computer(power being a server , and workstation chip arch)
So i think including apple in this is ok , as it is not the main bit just an associate
Agreed , Now i am no longer a PC gamer (political reasons) but one thing i always did was to get a no cd crack for the games i buy Obvious why is it not , CDs are highly perishable and fliping them in and out and all about is suicide(from a disk perspective) in a pc enviroment (the same cannot be said for consoles where cds are ussualy in the box or the machine plus the swapping is far less frequent , although i do prefer carts) If i couldnt get a no-cd then i would make an image or copy the cd using clone cd Plus Computer drives tend to spin up and down alot more than Consoles as they tend to run at a more constant rate
Unfortunatly your right , as i doubt the public on whole would rise up to protest the injustice , or vote every last one of them out of power and put in some new candidates to get the point across Also i should stop inciting reveloution , Fulgencio Batisat had it comming though
Um england is not an island mate , its a country England is on an island with 2 other countrys aka Scotland and Wales;) sorry back on point
and to the grandparent , no australia is a break off of the UK not of England, England is also part of the UK as was the USA and Canada at on point.
Im from Scotland , which is also part of the UK (unless more of vote for the SNP ) Please stop refering to the whole UK as England ,;) although we dont mind when your refering to civil rights abuses etc (joke)
A large portion of australia was people called criminals , who were not Read up on it , Alot of Scotsmen were taken away from there homes by frankly abusive laws set up to protect the rich bussiness and landowners Where people would perhaps steal a farm animal to feed the family or some such thing , perhaps they would take a bit of grain or show someone else how to steal an animal
petty laws with over the top punishements,,,, A bit like today with the RIAA and now the abuse of bittorent servers. I will not aruge the morality here as its a long tiersome debate but i will say , since when is it illegal to show someone how to commit a crime I have a several books on lock picking , a book on the mindset of serial killers , a book about pickpockets and the sub culture , all of these show me how to commit crimes just as torrent files show me(witha client) how to download the info . go after the sharer if you really must or the tracker perhaps.
However i do know one thing , Companys should never be allowed to conduct raids. We have an elected rule for a few reasons , and we dont need private companys acting like facists , no way should any persons not under the direct control of the gouvernemt be able to conduct such actions
That hits the nail on the head . Illegal is not always equatable with immoral. Where i live i can happily drink beer and spit out my chewin-gum (ok that one is a tad immoral) but if i did so in some arabian countrys I would be in alot of shit. I can easly go to Amsterdam and sit down and legaly light up a joint , if i flew to new york , sat down in a resteraunt and skined up a joint , I Would most likely be arrested and deported . Some countrys allow me to marry a 13 year old , its not illegal and in the culture it is not immoral.
Some chrisitians would consider it highly immoral of me if i were to say " god dammed bar-staff",I would not though
The problems occur when people just sit back and accept any abusive law thrown at them , or abuse of power.
You have a right to protest (in some countrys that is illegal ) so use it for gods sake . Downloading a couple of songs is not morally reprehensable
I can say i have downloaded a fair few things online , i can also say i have a very very large music collection on cd , LP , tape , i would value it at well over 50k ( some rather rare vinlys)
I have now switched to getting all my music offline , mainly via itunes. I have also stoped purchasing any artists under an RIAA held label and i will continue to urge that my freinds do the same
what is criminal and immoral is the price that they charge for music , 15 euros for a cd is insane and this is a cartel as almost all major record company CDs are this expensive (Indy labels are cheaper sometimes) Breaking your CDs so they dont work properly is wrong Threatening and treating your customers like criminals is wrong Paying the majority of artists tiny ammounts after exploiting people with the cost of sale is sick
So before anyone goes pointing fingers about who the big criminals are , you should think about it , and realise is it any wonder people break the law after all to be slightly facetious They are the heads of the music world and lead by example
Slashdot Mirror
Im going to buz a playstation 2 if this is any good ,I had heard about it ,so hopefully cedega will support it or thez will make a mac port , either that or im going to spend a fortune on a PS2 (as opposed to that star destroyer model)
well i have browser cach on ,so the minute i viewed the site i had broken that license plus it dosnt count if you havnt clicked on in that oh so legaly binding fashion .It was my cats;)
I agree in part .
However..
All you do is burn them to an iso/toast , i belive you can do this with toast
mount iso/.toast
then rip them to mp3 using one of the many programs out there
Easy to do and whilst not the quickest works and is perfectly legal
and the average person is not going to be buying more than 1 album at a time so it really only takes a couple of minutes for your new stuff
Now i strongly dislike all DRMs and disagree with them , however the Itunes DRM is the best of a bad lot
it allows the use on 5 computers , and the ability to burn an unlimited number of CDs from your music(iirc) so with ease i have converted all my itunes music to mp3 and ogg whilst keeping the origional m4p's on my mac
ps:
www.allofmp3.com sells music without DRM
I did a little snooping and found .-.-.-.
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on the developers license for morhpos
So i would say if they are using GNU licensed code , like a GCC version for morphOS then they seem like a rather heavy violater
after doing some more reading i discoverd this
http://www.morphos.net/
morphos.net where many morphos developers are rather irate over lack of payment
Something odd going on in MorphOS land not doubt
Ive said it before and I'm sure i will be saying it again .
,I am willing to place a hefty wager that it was not computer games that made them angry and violent
Witch hunt
This is nothing more than a simple ploy by some politicians to push ahead on the morals front
If you don't want your children to play these games then please do so parenting and don't let everyone else suffer from increasingly restrictive laws due to your moral sence of misplaced duty.
Most of us here played games as violent as these when we were kids , The graphics may not have been as good , though kids have great imaginations. I turned out OK,
Most of the other people here turned out OK.
Violent games don't make violent people
go to a maximum security prison and asked some of the inmates about their childhood
Right now it reall is not that impresive , i can just turn it off and on with a BT switch and another switch to change the strength settings
I do intend one day to have a switch to control the water flow , a little train to drive the cup to my desk etc, and possibly some form of robot to change the coffe and clean the filter but that seems a bit tricky
a small hack and really , less imprsivbe than it sounds
HD will be the future of consoles , as it will be the future of TV. ,
The question is not if , it is when.
Tv standerds will contiune to improve and pixel counts will push ever updward
Now that These standerds are making the way to the market it is clear that we will see them in games (many have suported HDTV since 2000 or so iirc ).
I expect normal standerds to hang on for a good while longer though
As i sit here with a Giant collection of lego star wars toys , several half wrecked old machines servering various services ,a reference book collection to rival that of a national library ,an Espreso machine controled via blue tooth, An ever encroaching beard since i lost my shaving kit under a pile of a Punch cards and a wrist time device that runs linux ,,, I begin to think that this story is far too geeky .. 1010101010 is way cooler anyhow
Now many will call me a Microsoft basher and i unashamedly am and with a dammed good reason. The insecurity of microsoft OSs does not just effect those who want to use (or dont know they have other options)windows, but it effects me and my peers. ,HPUX,Solaris,OS X(maybe i should just include this in *BSD) and *BSD are not perfect and have some security issues , though nothing on this scale(my opinion ) , you can use the argument about if blah had blah monopoly then blah would be just as cracked (which i think is rubbish and doth not change the fact that it is only and if as it isnt so cant be proven) So as a user of the internet on my chosen Unix variants at home and at work I still have to suffer microsofts lackluster Network security through the set-up of botnets .
I know * linux
Spam - DDOS and freinds continue to plauge our internet services.
Fine blame the average user for not updating etc , the fact remains that a person who is skilled in other areas should not need to have the knowlidge level of a Tech or even System admin or developer just to be able to safely use a computer (Ease of use is a difrent kettle of fish)
Sorry for the rant , but I am rather narked off at Spam nets
Motorola is in the huff as they are not getting any free marketing so they huff and they puff and a slashdot story apears , Free advertising to the target audiance *cough*
..
Now even worse , as they are not getting any free advertising they are delaying the phone and stabing a potentialy large profit in the foot , Has anyone told them apple make verly little profit on Itunes and make most of it from hardware sales
Hm i dont think this is a fair comparison , iirc cinibench is highly optimised for x86 and the PPC version is not on par
However i found some photoshop comparisons today and dammed if i can remember where , but that really did turn the tables on the pentium M
so i guess it looks like its the same comparison as AMD to intel , in that it depends what you want to do
4) satisfaction for giving something to the community
5) offerd high paying development job due to portfolio
6) profit
An important factor is , What machine are avaliable to you , if any. .
A great deal of teaching revolves around commen referance
You can find the best text in the world , but if it requires you use an IBM PC and your stuck with a bunch of colico computers then it wont be much use to your
It is also 3 times the size of a mac mini ,Perhaps a little more beef , but still .ok perhaps i am a little shallow but it still is not as nice looking
.
::please note i am not only a mac zelout , i am also an AMD ,BSD and linux zelout (jk)
So what we have is , a pc notebook in the shuttle form
perhaps im too harsh , as i can imagine a silent x86 system would be lovely.
The problem is , i dont see intel building the amd64 extensions onto the pentium M anytime soon ( unfortunatly) or even duel core. and they will contiune to beat the dead p4 horse for a long time to come
((on a side note , does anyone have any benchmarks comparing a pentium m procesor to a G4))
I would disagree that it makes it correct , it makes it commenly accepted but that is nothing like correct use .
,i was mearly putting a counter argument so no reason to duck in with the spelling correction ( i know how badly i spell already)
to use a slight hyperbole , in the 16th centuary most of the world thought that this planet was flat and the sun moved across it , it was a commenly held thesis , the use of such terminolgy was commen but we know now it was a tinny bit inacurit
and to the grandparent , i was not insulting your idea so keep your boxers on
Basicaly any person with enough skill to make a rulling on the viability of linux in the enterprise market should be a person with the skill to diferentiate between a kernel and an OS.
Would you take health advice from a doctor who couldnt understand the difrence between your left arm and your left ventrical
:D we all got owned
Just because people say something it dosn't make it correct .
Linux is a kernel not a name for a full OS , xerox is a company not a copying machine , hover is a company not an alternat word for vacume.
You can tell me what i can do to my legaly purchased goods all you want ,the fact is im not going to listen if it comes into effect where i live , Its called civil disobediance . , . .
. . ,Um cant think of one for guns ... maybe hunt... And Spread butter on your bread.
The fact is people buy products not licenses to use them in this case , mod chips are illegal because they potentialy could enable the use of pirate games.
now lets look at the logic here
If i am going to use an illegaly cloned game i bought at some back street store or got online , do you think i would have any qualms about also getting a modchip sent to me and installing it, the simple awnser is
"Probbaly not ".
Now if i wanted to modify my console to turn it into someform of server , or homebrew test kit for making my own games then i may just think twice
The real reason they dont want people doing this is not the piracy issue as they know that people will pirate anyway and this will only make it a tiny bit more inconveniant
The real reason i belive is that of two things , They profit from Games sales not hardware(thus homebrew is a problem or could potentialy be int he future , and people turning it into something else) and the fact that region encoding is not an anti piracy mesure but a way to make sure people dont benifit from better prices in difrent regions.
TO bring out an old addage i have used many times before , Are Guns illegal as they facillitate murder which is infact the sole purpose of handguns (to kill),In most countrys Yes it is illegal for a person to own a gun but not to mod a console, In America however no
I wont get into the gun ownership debate , but i will say this Please have equal standerds , the same applys to P2P programs , just because they may be used to break the (civil)law , it dosn't mean they should be illegal.
Mod chips , just as guns and Beer and bread knifes may all be used to break the law
They also may all be used to respectivly , Install linux on your xbox or so on
;) you do know thez have been avaliable for a couple years nowc hStr= &SearchCat=AMA1>
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Well i can see How it got the Apple topic , as any advances on linux for power will also aid linux on PPC (Thus Mac hardware ,and newer Amigas for that matter)
as you can see some of the instruction sets are a little diffrent however the core architecture is very simmilar and iirmprc(my press releases corectly) PPC is Power for the home computer(power being a server , and workstation chip arch)
So i think including apple in this is ok , as it is not the main bit just an associate
Agreed , Now i am no longer a PC gamer (political reasons) but one thing i always did was to get a no cd crack for the games i buy
Obvious why is it not , CDs are highly perishable and fliping them in and out and all about is suicide(from a disk perspective) in a pc enviroment (the same cannot be said for consoles where cds are ussualy in the box or the machine plus the swapping is far less frequent , although i do prefer carts)
If i couldnt get a no-cd then i would make an image or copy the cd using clone cd
Plus Computer drives tend to spin up and down alot more than Consoles as they tend to run at a more constant rate
Unfortunatly your right , as i doubt the public on whole would rise up to protest the injustice , or vote every last one of them out of power and put in some new candidates to get the point across
Also i should stop inciting reveloution , Fulgencio Batisat had it comming though
Um england is not an island mate , its a country ;) sorry back on point
, .
;) although we dont mind when your refering to civil rights abuses etc (joke)
,,,, A bit like today with the RIAA and now the abuse of bittorent servers. .
England is on an island with 2 other countrys aka Scotland and Wales
and to the grandparent , no australia is a break off of the UK not of England
England is also part of the UK as was the USA and Canada at on point
Im from Scotland , which is also part of the UK (unless more of vote for the SNP )
Please stop refering to the whole UK as England ,
A large portion of australia was people called criminals , who were not Read up on it , Alot of Scotsmen were taken away from there homes by frankly abusive laws
set up to protect the rich bussiness and landowners
Where people would perhaps steal a farm animal to feed the family or some such thing , perhaps they would take a bit of grain or show someone else how to steal an animal
petty laws with over the top punishements
I will not aruge the morality here as its a long tiersome debate
but i will say , since when is it illegal to show someone how to commit a crime
I have a several books on lock picking , a book on the mindset of serial killers , a book about pickpockets and the sub culture , all of these show me how to commit crimes just as torrent files show me(witha client) how to download the info . go after the sharer if you really must or the tracker perhaps
However i do know one thing , Companys should never be allowed to conduct raids.
We have an elected rule for a few reasons , and we dont need private companys acting like facists , no way should any persons not under the direct control of the gouvernemt be able to conduct such actions
Um i ment "Switched from getting all my music offline to getting it from itunes online"
Early morning
That hits the nail on the head . Illegal is not always equatable with immoral. .
,I would not though
.
.
Where i live i can happily drink beer and spit out my chewin-gum (ok that one is a tad immoral) but if i did so in some arabian countrys I would be in alot of shit.
I can easly go to Amsterdam and sit down and legaly light up a joint , if i flew to new york , sat down in a resteraunt and skined up a joint , I Would most likely be arrested and deported . Some countrys allow me to marry a 13 year old , its not illegal and in the culture it is not immoral
Some chrisitians would consider it highly immoral of me if i were to say " god dammed bar-staff"
The problems occur when people just sit back and accept any abusive law thrown at them , or abuse of power
You have a right to protest (in some countrys that is illegal ) so use it for gods sake . Downloading a couple of songs is not morally reprehensable
I can say i have downloaded a fair few things online , i can also say i have a very very large music collection on cd , LP , tape , i would value it at well over 50k ( some rather rare vinlys)
I have now switched to getting all my music offline , mainly via itunes
I have also stoped purchasing any artists under an RIAA held label
and i will continue to urge that my freinds do the same
what is criminal and immoral is the price that they charge for music , 15 euros for a cd is insane and this is a cartel as almost all major record company CDs are this expensive (Indy labels are cheaper sometimes)
Breaking your CDs so they dont work properly is wrong
Threatening and treating your customers like criminals is wrong
Paying the majority of artists tiny ammounts after exploiting people with the cost of sale is sick
So before anyone goes pointing fingers about who the big criminals are , you should think about it , and realise is it any wonder people break the law
after all to be slightly facetious They are the heads of the music world and lead by example