I loathe the RIAA etc. as much as the next geek, but what hellhole do you people live in that CD's cost 18 dollars?
I guess a better question is where do you live that CDs are so cheap? The hellhole I live in is San Francisco and CDs are in the $16-$19 range. There are some small shops where you can get stuff cheaper. I've found the best thing to do is to buy used.
Other than when we pay (in theater, premium channels on cable, renting movies) we Americans are rarely exposed to commercial free anything.
I don't know what movie theaters you go to but the ones I have been to recently all have ads before the movies. It's the main reason I've stopped going to the movie theater. I'm not going to pay for a movie if you're going to show me ads for vacuum cleaners and cars before the movie.
Towards the end of the movie, at the majors, on the last hole, there is a big banner for CBS sports. You *can't* miss it. It is big black letters on a yellow banner. Well, TBS edited it out. All it is now is a big yellow hole.
Actually, I'm all for this. I'm tired of all the blatant product promotion in movies. I'd actaully find it rather amusing if all the people trading movies on filesharing networks edited out all the product promotion from the movies they trade. Granted, it's illegal to trade copyrighted works without permission, but if you're going to do it, at least clean it up from ads.
I think this guy is taking it too far. If you really want to avoid all bloat, you shouldn't run X anyway. Seems to me someone who doesn't like windowmanagers etc. should just run stuff from the console (and definately not Mozilla).
He's not taking it too far. He's doing what works for him. He didn't say X was bloated. He may just not like the concept of windows and having to drag stuff around and out of the way all the time. I feel the same way. Everytime I have to use a MS Windows box, I maximize all of the windows. That way I get to use all of my screen space and I always know where my menus and the close/minimize buttons are.
Gentoo has a BSD style ports system. You type a command (ie. "emerge gnome") and it downloads, configures with parameters you have set in your make.conf file, and then compiles it optimized for your system.
So is this BSD ports system like a package manager? If I want to uninstall a program which I installed this way does it makes it easy to do so? What about checking any arbitrary file and finding out what package it belongs to? What about verifying the integrity of an installed package to be sure that the files haven't been altered after installation? These are features I use now with RPM on Red Hat so I'd want something similar in a new system.
No, I read the document. If this applies to every X application then I should just be able to fire up one of the proprietary applications that the scientists at my work use and start using Control-X/C/V to cut, copy, and paste. Nope. Doesn't work. So I stand by my last comment. X needs to be fixed. Not at the toolkit level. Every X application needs to support a unified cut and paste that's not brain damaged like the select / middle mouse button that is destructive to the copy buffer and confusing to use.
From reading the document, X offers too many ways to handle cut and paste so different programs and toolkits handle cut and paste different ways. We should pick one way and stick with it. Then disable the ability to use the other methods. Have a daemon that intercepts control-x/c/v and passes the correct cut/copy/paste signals to older applications that are using the non-supported methods. Windows has this consistency. I know that if I need to cut, copy, or paste, the commands are the same in every program. The same goes for the Mac. If Linux is to succeed on the desktop then this consistency needs to be established for every last X-based application that can be run and it needs to be enforced and dealt with in a consistent manner.
And how many apps out there don't use GTK+ or QT? VERY little. The vast majority of GUI apps are either GTK+ or QT.
You're quite wrong. There are far more applications that don't use QT or GTK than applications that do. Maybe in the free software world most apps use GTK or QT, but there are many proprietary and custom applications that don't use those toolkits, instead opting to use something like Motif or something else altogether.
Nope. Not at all. It needs to support every X application. It needs to be fixed in X itself not in some add on library like GTK or QT. There are apps out there that don't use GTK or QT.
I believe you're thinking of the Writehander keyboard which was made in the late 70's by NewO. You can find a photograph on page six of this PDF file. There's an old newsgroup posting that mentions it here.
Offtopic:
The first link goes to Bill Buxton's web site. He's the chief scientist for Alias|Wavefront. Might be some interesting reading there if you're into 3D.
And 'select + middle mouse button' doesn't cut it (no pun intended). When I select something doesn't mean that I want to blow away what's in my copy buffer. I might just want to delete it or replace it with what is in my copy buffer.
The first article seems to make the case that all geeks demand open source exclusively, because if you don't make such demands, you're not a geek. (A classic falacy of logic).
Yes. It's called begging the question. It's where you make a make an argument where you assume what you are trying to prove. Some people call it circular logic. So if I say:
"All geeks like open-source. If you are against open-source, then you aren't a geek."
So the fact that technically you have options doesn't change the fact that Redhat has a lot of power when it makes these decisions, and taking someone's hard work and intentionally hiding it in the name of "ease of use" is unfair and abusive.
What? No it's not. Abusive? Do you even know what that word means? No one is abusing anyone else. IN case you haven't realized, the license the KDE is distributed under allows Red Hat to do these things. If the KDE team doesn't like it, then they should switch to a more restrictive license.
i use RH 7.3 because it included KDE 3. when i tried limbo (RH 8 beta) it was hard to tell what WM i was using. i gave up on it because it didn't even resemble anything i was used to, and it was very slow.
Why didn't you go to the control panel and choose the default KDE theme then? A few clicks and you'd be right back to what you were used to.
First there was the issue of the removal of the "About KDE" item in all KDE app help menus. From Redhat's point of view, they're trying to make a Redhat-branded desktop, so seeing "About KDE" in some of the apps might be confusing to the user. From KDE's point of view, if Redhat "de-brands" the desktop, then the about box is really their only chance to let the user know about the app's authorship.
Wrong. The About KDE menu is just a glorified ad for the whole project. There is a second About menu right above the "About KDE" menu in each KDE program that gives credit for each specific program.
Second, and more importantly, they have replaced KDE apps with equivalent apps, either from GNOME or independent projects. For example, they replaced konqueror with Mozilla, Koffice with OpenOffice, KMail with Evolution.
Wrong again. The programs haven't been replaced. Only the links in the startup menu have changed. If you don't want to run OpenOffice, you can just add KOffice right back to the menu. KMail and Konqueror are both in the menu, they are just lsited by their name and not as "Web Browser" and "Email."
Maybe you should actually install and use the distribution next time before just spouting off at the mouth.
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Thanks. I'll check them out.
Hey Geminatron. Nice way to totally plagiarize someone else's post. Why don't you try to write your own comments next time?
Let's not forget that the company that makes this, Creative Labs, hopped on the DRM bandwagon.
Cool. Thanks. I'll have to take Gentoo for a spin then.
From reading the document, X offers too many ways to handle cut and paste so different programs and toolkits handle cut and paste different ways. We should pick one way and stick with it. Then disable the ability to use the other methods. Have a daemon that intercepts control-x/c/v and passes the correct cut/copy/paste signals to older applications that are using the non-supported methods. Windows has this consistency. I know that if I need to cut, copy, or paste, the commands are the same in every program. The same goes for the Mac. If Linux is to succeed on the desktop then this consistency needs to be established for every last X-based application that can be run and it needs to be enforced and dealt with in a consistent manner.
You're quite wrong. There are far more applications that don't use QT or GTK than applications that do. Maybe in the free software world most apps use GTK or QT, but there are many proprietary and custom applications that don't use those toolkits, instead opting to use something like Motif or something else altogether.Offtopic: The first link goes to Bill Buxton's web site. He's the chief scientist for Alias|Wavefront. Might be some interesting reading there if you're into 3D.
And 'select + middle mouse button' doesn't cut it (no pun intended). When I select something doesn't mean that I want to blow away what's in my copy buffer. I might just want to delete it or replace it with what is in my copy buffer.
You know you're being exposed to quality journalism when it contants the word "Puhleez." Was this FOX News article written by a 12 year old?
Maybe in the future companies that are planning to switch to Linux on such a large scale will tell their PR department to STFU until the deal is done.
I just wish more people would improve their typing skills. It's more difficult to grep audio than text.
Maybe you should actually install and use the distribution next time before just spouting off at the mouth.