You're citing a bullshit class-action suit as proof that there was any deception going on?
All manufacturers clearly state the units they are using NOW, however none of them lists BOTH sizes and none of them clearly state what the relationship this might be to the sizes listed in popular operating systems.
Hard drives have always been measured in decimal bytes, since before there was even a consumer market for them. It's a byproduct of how they are made. Unlike RAM, drives are not built on a binary tree. And engineers use decimal units.
Windows until Vista and 7 happily displayed size/some-base-2-number as Gigabytes, which always meant the disk you bought that was "100GB" actually turned out to be "98GB" or so. Hard disk manufacturers are absolutely guilty of manipulating their product marketing such that you buy one size disk and get it home to reveal it's lower than expected.
No, it's the OS developers who are guilty of incorrectly displaying Mebi/Gibi/Bytes as Mega/Giga/Bytes.
Imagine if you clicked Properties on a folder and found it was "100GB" in Windows. You might go out and buy a 100GB disk to back it up. Obviously this would never have worked and you'd be a few files short of backing it up totally.
Right. Fault lies with the OS, not the hard drive. The only thing that's really measured in binary bytes these days is memory space. Everything else is measured decimally. Do you complain that network speeds are measured in decimal bytes?
Who would have known, if not an engineer or technician or software developer or worked in professional IT support?
Anybody who's been paying attention. Now tell me, how does this "deception" benefit hard drive makers? The customers aren't going to be too happy if they didn't get what they think they paid for. It's actually negative for the hard drive makers. And there's no competitive benefit - because all the drive makers use the same units. When shopping, you will compare one 320GB drive to another 320GB drive. So how does any company gain a sale from the "deception" of using correct units?
Basically this whole thing about the "hard drive marketing scam" is pure myth, an old wives' tale. there is no evidence supporting it, yet this myth has become so widely believed amongst computer nerds, that people actually think it's real. Amazing how herd mentality can work, huh?
USB 3.0 is going to suffer the same thing because of the 8b10 encoding (which means that the bandwidth is actually 4/5ths of the speed it says on the box, even before packet header overhead;
That is nothing at all like the hard drive situation. When you buy a 320GB hard drive - you get exactly that - 320GB of storage space. The USB 3.0 situation is an entirely different scenario.
Third, if the cars are no American (as most low-cost eco friendly cars are) then how is that helping the economy?
Actually, many "foreign" cars (Toyota, Honda etc) are actually made in America, so there still is a domestic economic benefit to buying those. Even if they weren't, we have a global economy now - so what's good for foreign countries is also good for us, generally speaking.
This is why taxes must be cut. If these idiots don't have our money then they can't do idiotic stuff with it.
That doesn't follow logically. Wouldn't a better solution be to stop them from doing idiotic things with the tax money, rather than cutting taxes? The taxes themselves aren't the problem - a lot of good could be done if they were spent wisely.
But given the hysterical reaction most Americans have to anything involving taxes, I don't think we'll ever see a sensible solution. Because everybody will just whine about having to pay taxes at all - rather than campaigning for accountability. And of course, taxes aren't going away. So the whining achieves nothing.
They use base 10 (10^3) instead of base 2 (2^10). The difference adds up over significant sizes.
But where do they lie about this? All manufacturers clearly state the units they are using. And using base 10 is correct. "Gigabytes" are a base 10 unit. "Gibibytes" are the binary version. Again, where is the deception?
Not the entire truth. There are many individual marriage celebrants who have nothing to do with the churches. So, it's not just up to the churches.
If we are to disconnect the term "marriage" from government definition - then it should be free for everybody to use, not just the churches. I should be allowed to proclaim myself as married to the sky, if I want to, with as much legal ramification as it should have if the church were to proclaim it. That is, none at all.
It's surprising only if you assume that anybody who believes the term marriage should remain gender heterogenous must also think the murder of Matthew Shephard was a really good idea.
That doesn't make any sense. There are many kinds of discrimination, and you don't have to be at the level of justifying murder to be a discriminator.
Anybody who voted for Proposition 8 is discriminating, whether they believe they have good intentions or not. It simply is discrimination, by definition. You are saying that one group of society should have fewer rights than another group of society. That's discrimination.
I didn't vote yes on 8, but I know a lot of people who did, and their decision had little to do with any lack of sensitivity or exposure to diversity.
Right. As this demonstrates, people with plenty of exposure to diversity can still be bigots and discriminators. That's not surprising at all. Many people have lots of exposure to mathematics, but still don't "get it."
Yes, sun trackers increase output - but they come at the cost of reliability and complexity. They are much more easily damaged by wind, and it's more to maintain. Most people would be better off simply buying more solar panels to make up for the losses of a fixed mounting. Also, unless you live on a farm or research center, how many people would tolerate one of those ungainly DIY rigs shown in MAKE on their property?
But again, that doesn't make sense. It would if you said "working through your lunch break" - but "working through lunch" would mean that lunch somehow enables your work. Likewise, "eating through lunch" is bizarre. You "eat your lunch" - I'm not sure what "eating through lunch" would mean something like you only eat the center of your meal.
The other odd aspect is; how does taking your lunch break to eat, make a longer working day any shorter?
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There is no such thing as "Legos". The word is already plural, you don't add "s" to the end.
I imagine that their marketing budget will have to dwarf their development budget,
Budget? Heh. I don't think they thought that far ahead.
Barack Obama apparently didn't return CmdrTaco's call.
Apparently he did, and we now know Taco's real identity; he's Vivek Kundra.
Now, if this scientist had simply realized that Back to the Future is a fictional movie, he could have saved a lot of time.
http://apcmag.com/seagate_settles_class_action_cash_back_over_misleading_hard_drive_capacities.htm
You're citing a bullshit class-action suit as proof that there was any deception going on?
All manufacturers clearly state the units they are using NOW, however none of them lists BOTH sizes and none of them clearly state what the relationship this might be to the sizes listed in popular operating systems.
Hard drives have always been measured in decimal bytes, since before there was even a consumer market for them. It's a byproduct of how they are made. Unlike RAM, drives are not built on a binary tree. And engineers use decimal units.
Windows until Vista and 7 happily displayed size/some-base-2-number as Gigabytes, which always meant the disk you bought that was "100GB" actually turned out to be "98GB" or so. Hard disk manufacturers are absolutely guilty of manipulating their product marketing such that you buy one size disk and get it home to reveal it's lower than expected.
No, it's the OS developers who are guilty of incorrectly displaying Mebi/Gibi/Bytes as Mega/Giga/Bytes.
Imagine if you clicked Properties on a folder and found it was "100GB" in Windows. You might go out and buy a 100GB disk to back it up. Obviously this would never have worked and you'd be a few files short of backing it up totally.
Right. Fault lies with the OS, not the hard drive. The only thing that's really measured in binary bytes these days is memory space. Everything else is measured decimally. Do you complain that network speeds are measured in decimal bytes?
Who would have known, if not an engineer or technician or software developer or worked in professional IT support?
Anybody who's been paying attention. Now tell me, how does this "deception" benefit hard drive makers? The customers aren't going to be too happy if they didn't get what they think they paid for. It's actually negative for the hard drive makers. And there's no competitive benefit - because all the drive makers use the same units. When shopping, you will compare one 320GB drive to another 320GB drive. So how does any company gain a sale from the "deception" of using correct units?
Basically this whole thing about the "hard drive marketing scam" is pure myth, an old wives' tale. there is no evidence supporting it, yet this myth has become so widely believed amongst computer nerds, that people actually think it's real. Amazing how herd mentality can work, huh?
USB 3.0 is going to suffer the same thing because of the 8b10 encoding (which means that the bandwidth is actually 4/5ths of the speed it says on the box, even before packet header overhead;
That is nothing at all like the hard drive situation. When you buy a 320GB hard drive - you get exactly that - 320GB of storage space. The USB 3.0 situation is an entirely different scenario.
Third, if the cars are no American (as most low-cost eco friendly cars are) then how is that helping the economy?
Actually, many "foreign" cars (Toyota, Honda etc) are actually made in America, so there still is a domestic economic benefit to buying those. Even if they weren't, we have a global economy now - so what's good for foreign countries is also good for us, generally speaking.
This is why taxes must be cut. If these idiots don't have our money then they can't do idiotic stuff with it.
That doesn't follow logically. Wouldn't a better solution be to stop them from doing idiotic things with the tax money, rather than cutting taxes? The taxes themselves aren't the problem - a lot of good could be done if they were spent wisely.
But given the hysterical reaction most Americans have to anything involving taxes, I don't think we'll ever see a sensible solution. Because everybody will just whine about having to pay taxes at all - rather than campaigning for accountability. And of course, taxes aren't going away. So the whining achieves nothing.
They use base 10 (10^3) instead of base 2 (2^10). The difference adds up over significant sizes.
But where do they lie about this? All manufacturers clearly state the units they are using. And using base 10 is correct. "Gigabytes" are a base 10 unit. "Gibibytes" are the binary version. Again, where is the deception?
In what way are hard disk sizes "a big fat lie"?
States don't marry people, churches do.
Not the entire truth. There are many individual marriage celebrants who have nothing to do with the churches. So, it's not just up to the churches.
If we are to disconnect the term "marriage" from government definition - then it should be free for everybody to use, not just the churches. I should be allowed to proclaim myself as married to the sky, if I want to, with as much legal ramification as it should have if the church were to proclaim it. That is, none at all.
The church doesn't own words.
but if Google is going to discriminate against those who actually have faith, they are going to lose me as a customer.
WTF? Where is there even the slightest hint that Google is interested in discriminating against people of faith?
It's surprising only if you assume that anybody who believes the term marriage should remain gender heterogenous must also think the murder of Matthew Shephard was a really good idea.
That doesn't make any sense. There are many kinds of discrimination, and you don't have to be at the level of justifying murder to be a discriminator.
Anybody who voted for Proposition 8 is discriminating, whether they believe they have good intentions or not. It simply is discrimination, by definition. You are saying that one group of society should have fewer rights than another group of society. That's discrimination.
I didn't vote yes on 8, but I know a lot of people who did, and their decision had little to do with any lack of sensitivity or exposure to diversity.
Right. As this demonstrates, people with plenty of exposure to diversity can still be bigots and discriminators. That's not surprising at all. Many people have lots of exposure to mathematics, but still don't "get it."
And I thought that the C64 runs on magic smoke.
I can SEE the internets!
If you're Dell, you car a lot.
Do we have to bring car analogies into everything?
See, it has the word "tit" right there in its name. Case closed.
Yes, sun trackers increase output - but they come at the cost of reliability and complexity. They are much more easily damaged by wind, and it's more to maintain. Most people would be better off simply buying more solar panels to make up for the losses of a fixed mounting. Also, unless you live on a farm or research center, how many people would tolerate one of those ungainly DIY rigs shown in MAKE on their property?
Hydroponic marijuana farm.
Maybe not xbox's, but I would not be surprised to learn there's been homicides by wii controller.
They may be more entertaining than humans, but TV sets aren't people. A valid defense of homicide charges.
It's quite a bit harder to kill somebody (especially two people) by stabbing or bashing than by shooting.
he believes that the 17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."
If someone as old as 17 doesn't understand this basic fact of life, then there's obviously something wrong that has nothing to do with the video game.
there's another quarter million MCSEs out of work.
Simple solution: Soylent Green.
open sorce on my ballsac
Now everybody gets a taste! It's the gift that keeps on giving.
what machine would you propose as the "25th Anniversary Mac?"
Whatever machine the time-traveling nanoreplicators decide to build.
But again, that doesn't make sense. It would if you said "working through your lunch break" - but "working through lunch" would mean that lunch somehow enables your work. Likewise, "eating through lunch" is bizarre. You "eat your lunch" - I'm not sure what "eating through lunch" would mean something like you only eat the center of your meal.
The other odd aspect is; how does taking your lunch break to eat, make a longer working day any shorter?