Right in the summary! "Indeed, the iTunes page for VLC media player stopped working."
That's kind of meaningless on its own.
The more people know about it, the more we can apply economic and legal pressure on Apple.
Why would you want to apply legal pressure on Apple, when they are doing nothing illegal? Do you disapprove of free markets and capitalism? It would set a bad precedent to try and force companies to do things they shouldn't have to do.
Need I remind you that it was actually a VLC developer who requested that VLC be removed from the App Store? Are you arguing that we should be forcing companies to do things that are against the wishes of the developers/owners of their own property?
In UNIX/Linux/MacOS, the command line practically is the Operating System. In Windows, the command line a couple of layers removed from the working of the OS. Besides that, it's non-standard.
Well, my point is that regardless of the details of US law and history, the concept of "rights" is widely regarded as unalienable, and beyond the scope of individual jurisdictions. In other words, stating that it is merely a "statement of principles" is meaningless, as principles are superior to laws.
Any of us could find ourselves romanticizing violence,
I guess anything is possible, but this seems like a meaningless statement. Theoretically, I might be found wearing a blond wig and worshipping Henry Kissinger while sacrificing goats, but it would be extremely unlikely.
Similarly, I have always been opposed to violence, and have never shown any tendencies to be violent. It would probably take major brain trauma for me to be violent. On the other hand, people who are regularly violent and constantly speak of violence are probably more likely to commit violent acts.
Far more incidents of this sort happen in the Middle East so why is this "a very american thing to do"?
How does similar events happening in the Middle East make it a less American thing to do? Overeating and watching TV is a "very American thing to do," yet people also overeat and watch TV in other countries.
Keep in mind a lot of the off the wall posts are from both sides of the fence and are mimicing the wacko rhetoric that is headline sensational and not representative of the thoughtful thinking of either side of the fence. Some of it is just people having fun arguing while discussing a touchy subject
In other words, it's mostly completely insane people, whether they are being serious or trolling.
But like I said from my first sentence if you actually engage the posters in discussion and ask tough questions and such you can get the meat. Its all of what you make of it.
There's no meat there. Why would you bother sifting through 1,000 totally insane posts to "discuss" things with somebody who might be only 99% insane? That's even worse odds than commenting on slashdot.
Are you blind? RTFA: "Apple Pulls VLC Media Player from AppStore". That's the iOS AppStore.
It doesn't actually say that in the summary or the linked article(s)
Apple takes active measures preventing me from installing software on my hardware; they designed their hardware and software that way. The fact that they are too dumb to get it right doesn't change the fact that that's their intention.
Yeah, so what? They made the hardware. It's your problem if you choose to buy it and it doesn't do what you want it to.
Apple made official DMCA arguments against jailbreaking. Fortunately, the feds put a stop to that:
So, in other words, Apple has never taken legal action against an individual for jailbreaking their device?
That remains to be seen.
No, it doesn't. Should you be required to help your neighbor paint his house?
It just seems like vanity? Make no mistake, this is the very definition of vanity. It's as if vanity came to your office, flopped its balls out and rubbed them in your face, screaming "I'm Vanity, bitch! Get used to it."
Non US citizens outside of the territory of the US do not have any of the same rights that US citizens have.
The Declaration of independence opens with these words:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
So clearly, the rights enshrined in US law are intended to apply to all humans. And this gets to the heart of "rights," whether in the sense of US law, or the more international conception of "human rights." They are meaningless unless they apply to everybody. If something is a (human) right, then why would it only apply to people who are citizens of a certain nation? If you hold any belief in the notion, they should apply to people regardless of country of origin.
I'm not, since they are using technological (and, increasingly, legal) means to restrict that. Unlike Android devices, iOS doesn't have an option of installing from sources other than Apple's App Store.
Umm, we're not talking about iOS here, we're talking about Mac OS, which doesn't require you to buy apps from the Apple store.
Even if we were talking about iOS, you are still free to install whatever you like on your own hardware. However, Apple is not required to assist you in doing so, any more than BMW is required to help you install a big-block V8 in your Mini Cooper, or Microsoft is required to help you install Linux apps on Windows.
As for legal measures, what are you referring to? I don't recall any legal action from Apple against people jailbreaking their devices.
Because, dispite what the fruit-hugging hipsters will claim
You know your argument is flawed when you have to bring mythical "hipsters"and ad-hominem attacks into the debate rather than facts and reason. I guess your verbiage is slightly above "Mac users are gay."
it's the market leader,
Why would this be a reason to choose something? McDonalds might be the market leader in fast food, but that doesn't mean it's good food.
it's more open then Apple's dictatorship
How so? Anybody can develop for Mac OS, just as anybody can develop for Windows or Linux. Moreover, Mac OS is a form of UNIX, so there are many more development possibilities there, especially the ease of porting between Linux and Mac. Windows doesn't even have a proper command line.
and actually a really nice well designed and implemented OS?
It's actually barely designed at all. It's a complete mess of hacks.
It's not perfect, but it's better than the commercial competition.
Except for the fact that Mac OS is much better designed, more modern, and more sophisticated.
The ones who are Facebook junkies have automatically disqualified themselves from having a leadership role at any important company.
I don't think so. I'm guessing that within 10 years, it will basically be a requirement to have a Facebook (or equivalent social network that replaces it) profile to even be considered for jobs. There's a whole generation taking power right now who consider it suspicious not to have a social network profile.
When a company has to litigate to get customers/compete, it's not a good sign.
On the other hand, when the government simply decides to go with an existing vendor without considering other options, it's also not a good sign. After all, we don't want government wasting money on inferior solutions, do we?
because it would be exclusive on AT&T (or Verizon, or Sprint) but not exclusive on T-Mobile for instance.
If it's exclusive for AT&T, and you have an AT&T phone, then it's the only one available. Which was the point I was making, which you have somehow twisted bizarrely. Hacking your phone to support an alternative doesn't change the fact that it's an AT&T exclusive.
For me the best way to find apps is not to start in the app store, but to search with google for it, e.g. search for "satnav app for android". Then you get reviews, recommendations, etc from various sources
Have you tried searching Google for product review lately? Most of the results are tainted with SEO bullshit and price-comparison site whore-mongering. Google is fast becoming useless for searching anything that isn't a Wikipedia entry.
For fuck's sake, Google routinely delivers about.com results right up top as if they are useful for anything
Is it? Or is it the above statement sarcasm, making a statement about posts that redundantly point out their obvious sarcasm? After all, if you point it out, doesn't that remove its sarcastic properties?
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Right in the summary! "Indeed, the iTunes page for VLC media player stopped working."
That's kind of meaningless on its own.
The more people know about it, the more we can apply economic and legal pressure on Apple.
Why would you want to apply legal pressure on Apple, when they are doing nothing illegal? Do you disapprove of free markets and capitalism? It would set a bad precedent to try and force companies to do things they shouldn't have to do.
Need I remind you that it was actually a VLC developer who requested that VLC be removed from the App Store? Are you arguing that we should be forcing companies to do things that are against the wishes of the developers/owners of their own property?
In UNIX/Linux/MacOS, the command line practically is the Operating System. In Windows, the command line a couple of layers removed from the working of the OS. Besides that, it's non-standard.
Well, my point is that regardless of the details of US law and history, the concept of "rights" is widely regarded as unalienable, and beyond the scope of individual jurisdictions. In other words, stating that it is merely a "statement of principles" is meaningless, as principles are superior to laws.
Because it's a hack on top of another hack, not an actual integrated command line?
Any of us could find ourselves romanticizing violence,
I guess anything is possible, but this seems like a meaningless statement. Theoretically, I might be found wearing a blond wig and worshipping Henry Kissinger while sacrificing goats, but it would be extremely unlikely.
Similarly, I have always been opposed to violence, and have never shown any tendencies to be violent. It would probably take major brain trauma for me to be violent. On the other hand, people who are regularly violent and constantly speak of violence are probably more likely to commit violent acts.
Far more incidents of this sort happen in the Middle East so why is this "a very american thing to do"?
How does similar events happening in the Middle East make it a less American thing to do? Overeating and watching TV is a "very American thing to do," yet people also overeat and watch TV in other countries.
Keep in mind a lot of the off the wall posts are from both sides of the fence and are mimicing the wacko rhetoric that is headline sensational and not representative of the thoughtful thinking of either side of the fence. Some of it is just people having fun arguing while discussing a touchy subject
In other words, it's mostly completely insane people, whether they are being serious or trolling.
But like I said from my first sentence if you actually engage the posters in discussion and ask tough questions and such you can get the meat. Its all of what you make of it.
There's no meat there. Why would you bother sifting through 1,000 totally insane posts to "discuss" things with somebody who might be only 99% insane? That's even worse odds than commenting on slashdot.
Are you blind? RTFA: "Apple Pulls VLC Media Player from AppStore". That's the iOS AppStore.
It doesn't actually say that in the summary or the linked article(s)
Apple takes active measures preventing me from installing software on my hardware; they designed their hardware and software that way. The fact that they are too dumb to get it right doesn't change the fact that that's their intention.
Yeah, so what? They made the hardware. It's your problem if you choose to buy it and it doesn't do what you want it to.
Apple made official DMCA arguments against jailbreaking. Fortunately, the feds put a stop to that:
So, in other words, Apple has never taken legal action against an individual for jailbreaking their device?
That remains to be seen.
No, it doesn't. Should you be required to help your neighbor paint his house?
It just seems like vanity.
It just seems like vanity? Make no mistake, this is the very definition of vanity. It's as if vanity came to your office, flopped its balls out and rubbed them in your face, screaming "I'm Vanity, bitch! Get used to it."
And how is exposing corruption in the government treason? To me it looks a lot more like patriotism.
Non US citizens outside of the territory of the US do not have any of the same rights that US citizens have.
The Declaration of independence opens with these words:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
So clearly, the rights enshrined in US law are intended to apply to all humans. And this gets to the heart of "rights," whether in the sense of US law, or the more international conception of "human rights." They are meaningless unless they apply to everybody. If something is a (human) right, then why would it only apply to people who are citizens of a certain nation? If you hold any belief in the notion, they should apply to people regardless of country of origin.
I'm not, since they are using technological (and, increasingly, legal) means to restrict that. Unlike Android devices, iOS doesn't have an option of installing from sources other than Apple's App Store.
Umm, we're not talking about iOS here, we're talking about Mac OS, which doesn't require you to buy apps from the Apple store.
Even if we were talking about iOS, you are still free to install whatever you like on your own hardware. However, Apple is not required to assist you in doing so, any more than BMW is required to help you install a big-block V8 in your Mini Cooper, or Microsoft is required to help you install Linux apps on Windows.
As for legal measures, what are you referring to? I don't recall any legal action from Apple against people jailbreaking their devices.
Because it works.
So, are you implying that Operating Systems other than Windows don't work? That claim would need some evidence to back it up.
Because, dispite what the fruit-hugging hipsters will claim
You know your argument is flawed when you have to bring mythical "hipsters"and ad-hominem attacks into the debate rather than facts and reason. I guess your verbiage is slightly above "Mac users are gay."
it's the market leader,
Why would this be a reason to choose something? McDonalds might be the market leader in fast food, but that doesn't mean it's good food.
it's more open then Apple's dictatorship
How so? Anybody can develop for Mac OS, just as anybody can develop for Windows or Linux. Moreover, Mac OS is a form of UNIX, so there are many more development possibilities there, especially the ease of porting between Linux and Mac. Windows doesn't even have a proper command line.
and actually a really nice well designed and implemented OS?
It's actually barely designed at all. It's a complete mess of hacks.
It's not perfect, but it's better than the commercial competition.
Except for the fact that Mac OS is much better designed, more modern, and more sophisticated.
Apple is asserting rights over what I can install on hardware that I own.
No, they aren't. They are asserting control over what they sell in their own store. You remain free to install whatever you want on your own hardware.
Why not use Windows 7 and give them an account with limited rights.
More to the point, why would you want to use Windows?
The ones who are Facebook junkies have automatically disqualified themselves from having a leadership role at any important company.
I don't think so. I'm guessing that within 10 years, it will basically be a requirement to have a Facebook (or equivalent social network that replaces it) profile to even be considered for jobs. There's a whole generation taking power right now who consider it suspicious not to have a social network profile.
I'm sure Slashdot is the most objective place to determine which solution is the inferior one.
When did I suggest that slashdot was the appropriate venue to make such decisions? All I said was that options should be evaluated.
Who cares who's daughter is who's and who's DNA is in whomever?
Your sister?
When a company has to litigate to get customers/compete, it's not a good sign.
On the other hand, when the government simply decides to go with an existing vendor without considering other options, it's also not a good sign. After all, we don't want government wasting money on inferior solutions, do we?
because it would be exclusive on AT&T (or Verizon, or Sprint) but not exclusive on T-Mobile for instance.
If it's exclusive for AT&T, and you have an AT&T phone, then it's the only one available. Which was the point I was making, which you have somehow twisted bizarrely. Hacking your phone to support an alternative doesn't change the fact that it's an AT&T exclusive.
For me the best way to find apps is not to start in the app store, but to search with google for it, e.g. search for "satnav app for android". Then you get reviews, recommendations, etc from various sources
Have you tried searching Google for product review lately? Most of the results are tainted with SEO bullshit and price-comparison site whore-mongering. Google is fast becoming useless for searching anything that isn't a Wikipedia entry.
For fuck's sake, Google routinely delivers about.com results right up top as if they are useful for anything
Just in case you're missing it, this is sarcasm.
Is it? Or is it the above statement sarcasm, making a statement about posts that redundantly point out their obvious sarcasm? After all, if you point it out, doesn't that remove its sarcastic properties?
Soon Amazon will cut deals with mobile phone companies to make their store the only exclusive store on your phone.
If it's the exclusive store for your phone, then by definition it's the only one. How can you have more than one that's exclusive?
It was not the first time Microsoft had toyed with the idea of a datacenter without walls.
I think they might be taking the "Windows everywhere" philosophy a little bit too seriously.