Trump will veto any action to overturn Pai... and I don't think a 2/3rds majority to support such action is likely. Say goodbye to Net Neutrality until Trump is gone.
Na. Not a waste of time. It will reveal which senators and congress-critters oppose restoring NN. Ammo for the democrats in November. Dems aren't as stupid as one might desire to think. They know this is a game they can well, game.. for political gain in November.
I think it's pretty amusing what this administration is up to, it's like they're trying to piss off everyone, in every way possible. It's like they want to be shamed and ridiculed endlessly. The levels of stupid out of this administration are at a level we've not seen... ever.
I don't like Net Neutrality being used in this political game, but we have to work with whatever this administration shovels our way. Be thankful they are throwing very important topics into the spot light. What we have to do as the common person is pass this along, get your friends and family interested in Net Neutrality, explain what it means, educate your fellows. Do it while it's a hot-button topic, before the yawning and disinterest sets in. The more sheeple you can get interested in this, the more noise they'll collectively make. Never a waste of time, not ever.
It's painful to see this brought up. Firefly was an amazing series that was cut short. So much time and effort was put into probably one of the best Sci-Fi series we've seen in a good while, and it was given an early unwarranted death and a crappy movie to appease fans.
For me? Nothing short of a reboot of the series will satisfy. Like many modern humans, reading books isn't something I'm terribly keen on doing.
So yeah, if they want to bring this back, do a deal with Netflix or some similar entity. Fuck books. Recast everything, start back from the beginning and hopefully give us many pleasing seasons of Sci-Fi drama!
"The big advantages are that no platform-specific code is required, allowing devs to make apps that run across different platforms, and that PWAs are hosted on the developer's server, so can be updated directly from there (without having to push updates to the app store)."
Didn't Apple already try something like this? And found, malicious developers would push perfectly 'acceptable' Apps through the store, then update them independently to be malicious/spyware/etc?
When a download is initiated by javascript, the browser should pop up a simple dialogue (non modal, but otherwise an "on top" window so they can continue to otherwise use the browser) to confirm the download with a yes/no. Permit only one of these dialogue windows at a time. Other threads wanting to pop up the dialogue can be suspended until the current dialogue is dismissed Threads requesting a download can be handled on a first come first serve.basis.
A thousand times: NO!
Been there, done that, you implement something like that, you end up having to click NO a jagillion times to dismiss all the queued up downloads. Stupid.
They can revoke the DNS from sci-hub all they want, it's not going to prevent the site from running, assuming it can find a host.
"Pulling up the streets and sidewalk in front of your house doesn't prevent people from accessing it, because the building is still physically there"
Bad analogy. It's more like taking away your address so the postman skips your house. Road and sidewalks are untouched. Others can visit your house, assuming they can find it.
Hey, I never said anything about it being easy. Sure, you're going to have to convince others to use your DNS servers to get resolutions on so-called banned or blocked domains. But it's possible.
Doesn't matter. The DMCA notice wasn't about emulation, it was specifically about a few database files.
Does matter. It shows they are going after a different aspect of the server, first. Perhaps their legal team sees it as easier to win in court. Doesn't make my case any less relevant, Blizzard can definitely fall back on DMCA anti-circumvention rules if the copyright infringement on files and/or database structure fails.
I'm a little surprised this is the avenue they decided to pursue. The anti-circumvention seems like a much easier win.
The second portion (17 U.S.C. 1201) is often known as the DMCA anti-circumvention provisions. These provisions changed the remedies for the circumvention of copy-prevention systems (also called "technical protection measures") and required that all analog video recorders have support for a specific form of copy prevention created by Macrovision (now Rovi Corporation) built in, giving Macrovision an effective monopoly on the analog video-recording copy-prevention market. The section contains a number of specific limitations and exemptions, for such things as government research and reverse engineering in specified situations. Although, section 1201(c) of the title stated that the section does not change the underlying substantive copyright infringement rights, remedies, or defenses, it did not make those defenses available in circumvention actions. The section does not include a fair use exemption from criminality nor a scienter requirement, so criminal liability could attach to even unintended circumvention for legitimate purposes.[3]
Reverse-engineering WoW protocol counts as circumvention of copy protection (Blizzard will definitely argue it to be true.) Done. Have fun!
And now Cloudfare have let the genie out of the bottle it seems like any site can be nuked, either because the CEO wakes up deciding to do it or due to a court order.
So much for the Internet 'interpreting censorship as damage and routing around it'.
Sorry to burst yet another bubble, but internet is working as intended. There is absolutely nothing preventing you or me, or anyone else from using the website's IP address should they put it forth. DNS is but a simple service provided by ISPs, it's not necessary for proper network functionality.
They can revoke the DNS from sci-hub all they want, it's not going to prevent the site from running, assuming it can find a host. As with anything on the net, if you don't like how someone else is operating something, set something up yourself to fill the gap you perceive. There is nothing preventing any third party from erecting their own DNS servers.
Sure this is a form of censorship, but what many people fail to realize, is it's not really effective if the content provider is determined to keep their stuff accessable. And I think we've all learned, the more you try to suppress anything on the internet, the more mirrors of the same content will appear.
That's a pretty big stretch to say any form of packet analysis and paid priorization auto-cancels safe harbor provisions because they're supposedly 'looking.' Look, paid prioritization needs nothing more than source and dest from the packet headers, which every router your packet transverses has to look at. So saying this somehow negates safe harbor is, well, just silly.
Deep packet inspection was (yes past tense) a bit of a gray area, but high adoption of HTTPS has rendered deep packet inspection dubiously useful, at best. It's not going to be a factor whatsoever in paid prioritization, because it's basically useless now. Without deep packet inspection, you just have your packet headers left, which everyone has to look at.
So again, back to what I said before: Net Neutrality has nothing to do with DMCA safe harbor. Apples and oranges. Unrelated, utterly.
Um, hate to burst the bubble in this thread, but copyright infringement isn't the problem here.
It's the DMCA. DMCA says reverse engineering copy-protection or proprietary protocols is prohibited.
If this was just an infringement issue, the server might have a chance, but there's no chance. The entire third-party server is a violation of DMCA reverse-engineering prohibition. The software itself is a violation of DMCA, don't even have to look at the fact they're using it to run a server. They don't have a leg to stand on here. Blizzard is 100% within their right to shut this down.
Whomever is running that server is pretty much boned. Reverse-engineering the WOW protocol is a violation of DMCA all by itself, so naturally running the software to provide a server is also a violation of DMCA. The question of some spell system or files being the sore point is moot. Emulation has always been a gray area that people have operated in. It's not legally permitted, but for the most part, companies have turned a blind-eye toward this.
Sadly, Blizzard isn't one of those companies. At the end of the day, the legacy server doesn't have a leg to stand on here. If Blizzard wants them gone, they have little-to-none recourse.
My suggestion? Don't play MMO's that are closed up like WoW. Move to an MMO that's more open. Like ARK Survival, Minecraft or Space Engineers, or any of the other open-world type offerings out there that include a server for you to run as you see fit.
Rich people aren't in jail, they can afford to make deals that exchange jail sentences for a big juicy fines and court fees.
Sorry for double post, but I had to add in.. rich people make bail, they can afford lawyers to drag the thing through court for years, costing the state enormous amounts of money. While poor people can't make bail, rot in jail without means to make enough money to pay their fines or hire a lawyer, so they rot in jail longer, get a public defender eager to make a deal with their colleague at the other table. Debtors prison basically. It's all super broken and in dire need of massive reforms.
Murder Premeditated - did the individual do things in the real world related to planning the crime. Murder Hate Crime - what was the individual thinking/feeling when the crime happened.
Do we really need all these special new laws? When our standard laws might be used as a path to justice.
Yes, we do. We need all these special case laws so when police stop someone, there is at least one law they are breaking unknowningly, allowing police to arrest, detain and search their victim for more criminal activity.
Our justice system is very very broken. In a lot of municipalities, justice is a means for the municipality to make money. It's part of their budget to include projected fines and such paid by victims of police.
Don't believe it? Just take a census of any detention facility in the USA, tell me how many of those inmates were below the poverty line before arrest. I bet it's nearly everyone. Rich people aren't in jail, they can afford to make deals that exchange jail sentences for a big juicy fines and court fees.
In addition, the CDN provider is accused of failing to implement a reasonable policy that will terminate repeat offenders.
This is about all they have to prove to a judge. DMCA safe-harbor or not, if you're not trying to put a stop to copyright infringement, you lose your protection and are liable.
The rest? Irrelevant.
Going after the infringers? Waste of time and money, they don't have typically have anything and plus it's more involved to prove some individual did something, especially if Cloudflare resists giving out information. The objective is to get a nice fat payday. The end-users don't yield fat paydays. Also, suing little Cindy cuz she uploaded Spongebob, yeah, that doesn't play out too great in the public eye. Going after some random download dump site? Only TorrentFreak bats an eyelash.
It was so unneeded, that they had to use it ? Is that what you're going with?
Never said that, never inferred it. The memo itself says the evidence presented to the FISA court is still classified. Obviously they have more than just the Steele dossier for probable-cause evidence. The source of the evidence is utterly irrelevant. Who the fuck cares where the info came from, that they have it, verified it, corroborated it with other sources was obviously enough for the FISA court judge. Sorry it's not enough for you, but that's probably why you're not a judge.
A guy like that would never conceal the political origins of the Steele dossier from the FISA court....
Probably because the political origins actually have nothing to do with the probable-cause given to the FISA court, four times. Duh? Obviously the facts they did present to the FISA court judge were compelling enough to issue the warrant for surveillance.
Repedocans are the only ones deluded into thinking the FBI is somehow political. It's not. I know they wish it were so they can lay blame, but sorry, nothing to see here but hot air and wishful thinking.
Regardless of your other point, stop emulating Trump please unless you also want to die in prison.
I think invoking Trump's name is going to soon be as much as a faux pas as invoking Hitler and Nazi. Godwin's law and all that. Besides, you should've declared it as "fake news" for proper effect.
So in your 25+ years of using computers, you haven't had any whiff of the notion of just how difficult what your proposing is?
It's not difficult. You just wish it were, as do most AV vendors. Want to take notes? Cool. Don't download stuff from any sites except from the official site for the program you're interested in acquiring. Don't install stuff from unknown vendors, vet the vendor, know who's behind the program. Only visit websites that're run by companies you trust. Use an ad-blocker at all times. And for the love of god, don't click links until you LOOK at where it goes. That status bar isn't there just for shits'n'giggles. Don't open email attachments EVER, unless you have TALKED to the person who sent the attachment and are expecting it. Don't click links in emails, even if it's from a company you know. Manually go to their website yourself if the email directs you to do so.
That basically the industry has been trying to solve that problem for MUCH LONGER THAN 25 YEARS?
This is just silly. The industry hasn't existed for 25 years. Let's see, 2018 - 25 = 1993. So just about around the first days of websites coming online. Malware in this age was most often spread via infected 3.5" floppies, and were generally destructive in nature (wipe your HDD typically.) Destructive virus' aren't really seen much anymore because they destroy spread vectors. We haven't seen majorly destructive virus' in a long time. Basically, 1993 is probably near the first signs of virus appearing on computer systems. We hadn't even seen the first internet worm in 1993.
People rail and rant and rave up and down about the insecurity of our computer systems, well, fucking duh? When we first designed these systems, we didn't think our fellow man would introduce destructive, malicious programs into the wild to fuck with everything. There's nothing wrong with these systems and computers, it's the fucking people that are broken. So instead of trying to fix our computers, which by the way work just fine, we should try to fix people to use the fucking things properly.
I'm with you on the "general" need for A/V *IF AND ONLY IF* you have best-practice safe browsing and avoid obvious pitfalls - however that's NOT ALL WINDOWS USERS!
Which is why I am one of those exceptionally evil people who believe you should have a license, training and certification to be allowed near ANY computer device. We require it for amateur radio, driving a car, practicing medicine, law, etc. Should need a license to use a computer too, so you know what the fuck you're doing. It's at a point where irresponsible usage of a computer HARMS OTHERS.
Eh, that's mostly bullshit, you're lumping all A/V or 3rd party security products with the worst offenders.
They're all garbage. Even Windows Defender. But at least Windows Defender doesn't try to milk you for $$$.
The best security protect available is simply training users how to identify bullshit when it comes and how to react to it.
In my 25+ years of using computers, I have first-hand experienced ONLY ONE virus. ONE. In 25 years. The only thing I've ever seen a malware/virus scanner ever report as a problem is keygens and an IRC script, which were not really threats. That one virus did not come from a website, download, or anything like that. Some 'friend' sent me a file over an instant message program and that file was infected.
If it were me, I'd configure Windows Defender to flag all third party malware/virus remove trash as malware themselves. Snakeoil all of it. Outright theft and preying on the weak minded with fear.
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Trump will veto any action to overturn Pai... and I don't think a 2/3rds majority to support such action is likely. Say goodbye to Net Neutrality until Trump is gone.
Na. Not a waste of time. It will reveal which senators and congress-critters oppose restoring NN. Ammo for the democrats in November. Dems aren't as stupid as one might desire to think. They know this is a game they can well, game.. for political gain in November.
I think it's pretty amusing what this administration is up to, it's like they're trying to piss off everyone, in every way possible. It's like they want to be shamed and ridiculed endlessly. The levels of stupid out of this administration are at a level we've not seen... ever.
I don't like Net Neutrality being used in this political game, but we have to work with whatever this administration shovels our way. Be thankful they are throwing very important topics into the spot light. What we have to do as the common person is pass this along, get your friends and family interested in Net Neutrality, explain what it means, educate your fellows. Do it while it's a hot-button topic, before the yawning and disinterest sets in. The more sheeple you can get interested in this, the more noise they'll collectively make. Never a waste of time, not ever.
It's painful to see this brought up. Firefly was an amazing series that was cut short. So much time and effort was put into probably one of the best Sci-Fi series we've seen in a good while, and it was given an early unwarranted death and a crappy movie to appease fans.
For me? Nothing short of a reboot of the series will satisfy. Like many modern humans, reading books isn't something I'm terribly keen on doing.
So yeah, if they want to bring this back, do a deal with Netflix or some similar entity. Fuck books. Recast everything, start back from the beginning and hopefully give us many pleasing seasons of Sci-Fi drama!
thanks to its decentralized and anonymous structure.
Inaccurate. It's the exact opposite of anonymous. Every transaction is recorded, from the beginning of bitcoin's existence.
"The big advantages are that no platform-specific code is required, allowing devs to make apps that run across different platforms, and that PWAs are hosted on the developer's server, so can be updated directly from there (without having to push updates to the app store)."
Didn't Apple already try something like this? And found, malicious developers would push perfectly 'acceptable' Apps through the store, then update them independently to be malicious/spyware/etc?
When a download is initiated by javascript, the browser should pop up a simple dialogue (non modal, but otherwise an "on top" window so they can continue to otherwise use the browser) to confirm the download with a yes/no. Permit only one of these dialogue windows at a time. Other threads wanting to pop up the dialogue can be suspended until the current dialogue is dismissed Threads requesting a download can be handled on a first come first serve.basis.
A thousand times: NO!
Been there, done that, you implement something like that, you end up having to click NO a jagillion times to dismiss all the queued up downloads. Stupid.
They can revoke the DNS from sci-hub all they want, it's not going to prevent the site from running, assuming it can find a host.
"Pulling up the streets and sidewalk in front of your house doesn't prevent people from accessing it, because the building is still physically there"
Bad analogy. It's more like taking away your address so the postman skips your house. Road and sidewalks are untouched. Others can visit your house, assuming they can find it.
but how easy is that?
Hey, I never said anything about it being easy. Sure, you're going to have to convince others to use your DNS servers to get resolutions on so-called banned or blocked domains. But it's possible.
Doesn't matter. The DMCA notice wasn't about emulation, it was specifically about a few database files.
Does matter. It shows they are going after a different aspect of the server, first. Perhaps their legal team sees it as easier to win in court. Doesn't make my case any less relevant, Blizzard can definitely fall back on DMCA anti-circumvention rules if the copyright infringement on files and/or database structure fails.
I'm a little surprised this is the avenue they decided to pursue. The anti-circumvention seems like a much easier win.
Care to highlight that line of the DMCA for us?
Sure. This straight from Wikipedia:
The second portion (17 U.S.C. 1201) is often known as the DMCA anti-circumvention provisions. These provisions changed the remedies for the circumvention of copy-prevention systems (also called "technical protection measures") and required that all analog video recorders have support for a specific form of copy prevention created by Macrovision (now Rovi Corporation) built in, giving Macrovision an effective monopoly on the analog video-recording copy-prevention market. The section contains a number of specific limitations and exemptions, for such things as government research and reverse engineering in specified situations. Although, section 1201(c) of the title stated that the section does not change the underlying substantive copyright infringement rights, remedies, or defenses, it did not make those defenses available in circumvention actions. The section does not include a fair use exemption from criminality nor a scienter requirement, so criminal liability could attach to even unintended circumvention for legitimate purposes.[3]
Reverse-engineering WoW protocol counts as circumvention of copy protection (Blizzard will definitely argue it to be true.) Done. Have fun!
And now Cloudfare have let the genie out of the bottle it seems like any site can be nuked, either because the CEO wakes up deciding to do it or due to a court order.
So much for the Internet 'interpreting censorship as damage and routing around it'.
Sorry to burst yet another bubble, but internet is working as intended. There is absolutely nothing preventing you or me, or anyone else from using the website's IP address should they put it forth. DNS is but a simple service provided by ISPs, it's not necessary for proper network functionality.
They can revoke the DNS from sci-hub all they want, it's not going to prevent the site from running, assuming it can find a host. As with anything on the net, if you don't like how someone else is operating something, set something up yourself to fill the gap you perceive. There is nothing preventing any third party from erecting their own DNS servers.
Sure this is a form of censorship, but what many people fail to realize, is it's not really effective if the content provider is determined to keep their stuff accessable. And I think we've all learned, the more you try to suppress anything on the internet, the more mirrors of the same content will appear.
That's a pretty big stretch to say any form of packet analysis and paid priorization auto-cancels safe harbor provisions because they're supposedly 'looking.' Look, paid prioritization needs nothing more than source and dest from the packet headers, which every router your packet transverses has to look at. So saying this somehow negates safe harbor is, well, just silly.
Deep packet inspection was (yes past tense) a bit of a gray area, but high adoption of HTTPS has rendered deep packet inspection dubiously useful, at best. It's not going to be a factor whatsoever in paid prioritization, because it's basically useless now. Without deep packet inspection, you just have your packet headers left, which everyone has to look at.
So again, back to what I said before: Net Neutrality has nothing to do with DMCA safe harbor. Apples and oranges. Unrelated, utterly.
Um, hate to burst the bubble in this thread, but copyright infringement isn't the problem here.
It's the DMCA. DMCA says reverse engineering copy-protection or proprietary protocols is prohibited.
If this was just an infringement issue, the server might have a chance, but there's no chance. The entire third-party server is a violation of DMCA reverse-engineering prohibition. The software itself is a violation of DMCA, don't even have to look at the fact they're using it to run a server. They don't have a leg to stand on here. Blizzard is 100% within their right to shut this down.
Whomever is running that server is pretty much boned. Reverse-engineering the WOW protocol is a violation of DMCA all by itself, so naturally running the software to provide a server is also a violation of DMCA. The question of some spell system or files being the sore point is moot.
Emulation has always been a gray area that people have operated in. It's not legally permitted, but for the most part, companies have turned a blind-eye toward this.
Sadly, Blizzard isn't one of those companies. At the end of the day, the legacy server doesn't have a leg to stand on here. If Blizzard wants them gone, they have little-to-none recourse.
My suggestion? Don't play MMO's that are closed up like WoW. Move to an MMO that's more open. Like ARK Survival, Minecraft or Space Engineers, or any of the other open-world type offerings out there that include a server for you to run as you see fit.
Rich people aren't in jail, they can afford to make deals that exchange jail sentences for a big juicy fines and court fees.
Sorry for double post, but I had to add in.. rich people make bail, they can afford lawyers to drag the thing through court for years, costing the state enormous amounts of money. While poor people can't make bail, rot in jail without means to make enough money to pay their fines or hire a lawyer, so they rot in jail longer, get a public defender eager to make a deal with their colleague at the other table. Debtors prison basically. It's all super broken and in dire need of massive reforms.
Murder Premeditated - did the individual do things in the real world related to planning the crime.
Murder Hate Crime - what was the individual thinking/feeling when the crime happened.
Do we really need all these special new laws? When our standard laws might be used as a path to justice.
Yes, we do. We need all these special case laws so when police stop someone, there is at least one law they are breaking unknowningly, allowing police to arrest, detain and search their victim for more criminal activity.
Our justice system is very very broken. In a lot of municipalities, justice is a means for the municipality to make money. It's part of their budget to include projected fines and such paid by victims of police.
Don't believe it? Just take a census of any detention facility in the USA, tell me how many of those inmates were below the poverty line before arrest. I bet it's nearly everyone. Rich people aren't in jail, they can afford to make deals that exchange jail sentences for a big juicy fines and court fees.
If net neutrality is abolished, then every service provider is liable for anything that passes though their system.
Ahem, totally different things.
DMCA's Safe Harbor provision is what protects ISPs and CDNs from being liable for their customer's actions. DMCA is still quite in effect.
Net Neutrality is about treating everyone's data the same as it moves across interconnected networks. IE: No paid prioritization.
In addition, the CDN provider is accused of failing to implement a reasonable policy that will terminate repeat offenders.
This is about all they have to prove to a judge. DMCA safe-harbor or not, if you're not trying to put a stop to copyright infringement, you lose your protection and are liable.
The rest? Irrelevant.
Going after the infringers? Waste of time and money, they don't have typically have anything and plus it's more involved to prove some individual did something, especially if Cloudflare resists giving out information. The objective is to get a nice fat payday. The end-users don't yield fat paydays. Also, suing little Cindy cuz she uploaded Spongebob, yeah, that doesn't play out too great in the public eye. Going after some random download dump site? Only TorrentFreak bats an eyelash.
It was so unneeded, that they had to use it ? Is that what you're going with?
Never said that, never inferred it. The memo itself says the evidence presented to the FISA court is still classified. Obviously they have more than just the Steele dossier for probable-cause evidence. The source of the evidence is utterly irrelevant. Who the fuck cares where the info came from, that they have it, verified it, corroborated it with other sources was obviously enough for the FISA court judge. Sorry it's not enough for you, but that's probably why you're not a judge.
A guy like that would never conceal the political origins of the Steele dossier from the FISA court....
Probably because the political origins actually have nothing to do with the probable-cause given to the FISA court, four times. Duh? Obviously the facts they did present to the FISA court judge were compelling enough to issue the warrant for surveillance.
Repedocans are the only ones deluded into thinking the FBI is somehow political. It's not. I know they wish it were so they can lay blame, but sorry, nothing to see here but hot air and wishful thinking.
Welcome to MMOs...
Yeah, pretty much this. Everyone always flocks to the new in these kinds of games. No one wants yesterday's fancy loot, everyone has it already.
Regardless of your other point, stop emulating Trump please unless you also want to die in prison.
I think invoking Trump's name is going to soon be as much as a faux pas as invoking Hitler and Nazi. Godwin's law and all that. Besides, you should've declared it as "fake news" for proper effect.
So in your 25+ years of using computers, you haven't had any whiff of the notion of just how difficult what your proposing is?
It's not difficult. You just wish it were, as do most AV vendors. Want to take notes? Cool. Don't download stuff from any sites except from the official site for the program you're interested in acquiring. Don't install stuff from unknown vendors, vet the vendor, know who's behind the program. Only visit websites that're run by companies you trust. Use an ad-blocker at all times. And for the love of god, don't click links until you LOOK at where it goes. That status bar isn't there just for shits'n'giggles. Don't open email attachments EVER, unless you have TALKED to the person who sent the attachment and are expecting it. Don't click links in emails, even if it's from a company you know. Manually go to their website yourself if the email directs you to do so.
That basically the industry has been trying to solve that problem for MUCH LONGER THAN 25 YEARS?
This is just silly. The industry hasn't existed for 25 years. Let's see, 2018 - 25 = 1993. So just about around the first days of websites coming online. Malware in this age was most often spread via infected 3.5" floppies, and were generally destructive in nature (wipe your HDD typically.) Destructive virus' aren't really seen much anymore because they destroy spread vectors. We haven't seen majorly destructive virus' in a long time. Basically, 1993 is probably near the first signs of virus appearing on computer systems. We hadn't even seen the first internet worm in 1993.
People rail and rant and rave up and down about the insecurity of our computer systems, well, fucking duh? When we first designed these systems, we didn't think our fellow man would introduce destructive, malicious programs into the wild to fuck with everything. There's nothing wrong with these systems and computers, it's the fucking people that are broken. So instead of trying to fix our computers, which by the way work just fine, we should try to fix people to use the fucking things properly.
I'm with you on the "general" need for A/V *IF AND ONLY IF* you have best-practice safe browsing and avoid obvious pitfalls - however that's NOT ALL WINDOWS USERS!
Which is why I am one of those exceptionally evil people who believe you should have a license, training and certification to be allowed near ANY computer device. We require it for amateur radio, driving a car, practicing medicine, law, etc. Should need a license to use a computer too, so you know what the fuck you're doing. It's at a point where irresponsible usage of a computer HARMS OTHERS.
Eh, that's mostly bullshit, you're lumping all A/V or 3rd party security products with the worst offenders.
They're all garbage. Even Windows Defender. But at least Windows Defender doesn't try to milk you for $$$.
The best security protect available is simply training users how to identify bullshit when it comes and how to react to it.
In my 25+ years of using computers, I have first-hand experienced ONLY ONE virus. ONE. In 25 years. The only thing I've ever seen a malware/virus scanner ever report as a problem is keygens and an IRC script, which were not really threats. That one virus did not come from a website, download, or anything like that. Some 'friend' sent me a file over an instant message program and that file was infected.
If it were me, I'd configure Windows Defender to flag all third party malware/virus remove trash as malware themselves. Snakeoil all of it. Outright theft and preying on the weak minded with fear.