Front End is the GUI. Back End everything else with Network. Marketing & Sales Corporate=Sun & Consumer=Google Who gets Richer managedcode. Bought 1000 SUNW @ $4.35. If the announcement is not related to office, then I am selling my SUNW
Office Online - An improved and a different version of Microsoft Office.
Features - Will be held close to heart, until beta. WOW! That's kool, will be something that will come out of peoples mouth.
Realize: Sun's dream of Network is the computer.
Migration of corporate customers: Not so easy.
Unfortunately, they can't use Managed code if they want better performance.
What started as a rumour is half confirmed by this news http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsmb/051004/828963b816cb4033 bd5faf308ae66b4b.html?.v=1 and is reflected in MSFT's stock price.
1 MS somehow has the copy of Google's strategy. Their is heavy corporate spying between the two. MS Managers are interviewing at Google just to sniff what's going on ? For example, a Manager working for Jeff Rikes interviewed for Google. It is speculated that Google will launch a product similar to MS Business Solutions but the product will be web based.....
2 We need an Office online and do you think Bill is sleeping ? LOL, take a dip in your bath tub. I speculate they must have already started their internal testing on the product. Don't you trust managedcode ?
3 Server-Equals-Service. Its really embaressing the way Ballmer talks. He should first learn to respect Geeks/Developers. Bill has this vision since 2000(web-services). Ultimately it is making money out of it. Gooogle is intimidating MS, trust me now MSN is under direct supervision of Bill and you will see search improve drastically. Bill was focused on Windows for the last 5 years to mature it as a world class product and it sure is now. Do I sound like his technical assistant, oho fuck!
5 The FAT Layer...
As company matures their are people who worked hard once upon a time. They now buy Box tickets to Mariners game and work at Microsoft to socialiaze. Some ambitious men like Lee were frustrated because of this. IBM has the fattest layer who negotiate with governments and they have their own way of milking. Slowly MS is going that way but it would hard to see Bill sitting down and doing nothing.
6 Product Vs Product(Major Products)
Windows/Office - Keep Dreaming about Linux with 1% Market share. (Office story is threatening, but new features are being offered and I speculate that Office will be an Integrated communication system or some value added product to maintain the bottomline).
SQL-Server - Oracle-Fuck yourself. Google, if you can beat this, I will put a SELL recommendation on MSFT. I have seen the performance of Yukon, it rocks. It will fuck Oracle & DB2 on 64 bit.
Xbox - So nicely timed. The entertainment division will be in Black this year.
Web-Services - GOOG leads....... 7 Morale amongst employees,
Very High for GOOG plus the attitude. MS 25% supercharged, another 25% work because they like to develop and another 25% work to earn and another 25% don't care. 8 Compensation
MS bumped it up for all its GMs and VPs. Yes the Box ticket holders so I don't see much difference but will make atleast 25% difference but what else Bill can do now ?
Google has the best pay and job satisfaction amongst its employees now. And a sky rocketing stock producing googlainers.
MS has too much shit internally to deal with and sure Google will see some setbacks too. The clear winner will be the consumer because of innovation and I am glad corporate America is once again innovating leaving China and India behind.
It doesn't make any difference if it is transferred to the UN either. It will only make a difference, only if Chinese takeover, which is a dream. But I am certain, the Chinese are building their own network probably better than the Americans(Ya don't be overconfident, we saw our disaster management system during Katrina and Rita).
Look at these intellectual patriots like Kai-Fu-Lee. I wonder how many such computer scientists, Nuclear scientists, Chemists have returned back with rich experience in the US to build China.
Give 5 more years, they will have better weapons than US and they may join hands with Russia to JAM American satellites.
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This is a confluence of intellectual monsters. No doubt, MIT students line up for Google recruting events. Damm it they got another revenue source and trust me this will be something big say atleast few 100 million dollars.
By the way are you using managed code to build your apps ? Trust MCPP.
Boy wake up. Don't give BS excuses for the Finger Banging you did in your Smart Pants...yada yada..
Now I should question the crediblity of scores in your high school and other tests. Did you cheat ? What is that you were introduced to in your Freshman year that your physics grades dropped from 90+ to 40ish ?
If you can't dance, don't blame the dance floor. If you don't get mangoes to eat, don't tell they were sour. Accept the fact you were a loser and incompetent rather than pointing dirty fingures at renowned professors and scientists
Moving MSN into Products and Platforms means, they are now under direct supervision of Bill. MS has aggressive work culture while AOL is packed with laid-back typical corporate Americans. Bill will first fire Ballmer if he bought AOL or they will buy AOL minus it's lousy employees.
MS has totally different work culture. Trust me moving MSN into Products and Platforms means, they are now under direct supervision of Bill. MS has aggressive work culture while AOL is packed with laid-back typical corporate Americans. Bill will first fire ballmer if he bought AOL or they will buy AOL minus it's lousy employees.
Looks like he is simply jealous of the new couple on honeymoon. All it's babies are being delivered without a c-section. Maybe Bill & Steve will announce a new marriage in CA as it's now legal for them to wed and try out a honeymoon.
Telecom - Death for all.
The great dot-com boom, a pot full of lies filled and fuelled by companies like Enron, Bankers like Citigroup and other Wall Street associates, Optical Fiber innovators and greedy scientists like Gururaj Desh, Star Telecom Analysts like Jack Grubman together brought down the entire nations economy. Conservative and federal reserve guard, Greenspan had a hard time stearing it back to where we are.
In the aftermath of Dot.Com bust, the Big 3 of Internet emerged, Yahoo, Ebay and AOL. Cisco, Sun, Amazon, MSN and others existed but their business models were not too consumer centric and they only tried hard to survive the growth. A new Stanford born baby was already conceiving and came to limelight in 2001. Yes you got it right, Google. With it's powerful Search technology it replaced AOL to join the Big 3. Google focused on web-services technologies, unveiled new model of business with its cool web based applications like search, gmail and google maps.
It is always said that many of us have herd mentality. So when Google unveiled their Google Talk, the Redmond company which has already lost its focus announced the buy-out of Teleo (teleo.com). The telecom and VoIP bug has now bitten eBay. According to Bloomberg, it is willing to pay a whopping $3 Billion (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&s id=aLvNorCTFLZM&refer=us ). So is eBay willing to pay so much just for the subscribers it has? What about Yahoo/MSN integrated instant messaging and VoIP based services it offers?
These Telecom analysts are all set to ruin the recovery in the IT world, which came back in the real form of web-services. Don't forget, Skype is a big hype. Not every customer will pay you for the low quality service that Skype offers.
The entry cost for Skype like services are very low. Any company with a million dollar in its treasury and a good negotiator across the table can use much of open source tools and build such a service. Where are the customers? In my experience, between Google Talk and Yahoo!, the former got better customer rating because of the clarity compared with Yahoo!. But Google has 1/100th the number of users compared to Yahoo! and far more better features. So lesser the number of customers better the quality. I think the VoIP market will evolve as a fragmented market with at least 2 service providers for every small town and more than a dozen providers for large cities.
I only hope someone will save eBay from shelling out couple of billions for a useless services as this. I will not immediately jump to VoIP unless they come up to the quality of fixed line Telco's otherwise, I can never conduct my business with lost words in-between deals. Maybe eBay and Skype officials must negotiate using Skype VoIP to know what eBay is paying for and what Skype is offering.
I have had very bad experience with ebay too. Do they have osmething called support ? No way.
However, Amazon.com's tech support which sucked in 2001 has improved drastically. Even though it looked that it has been outsourced, I managed to get the refund promptly for a book that wasn't shipped in 7 days.
Moreover skype is a Big Hype. I'll tell you their will be no one carrier like ATT. Their will be atleast 100 companies like skype with very good service as the ntry cost for this business is very very low.
Lets get down to business. I call my testers in India almost everyday. In the past we have tried VoIP based products from MediaRing to Skype, but everything is a big hype.
The price to call India-Bangalore is 19.6C/Min(including VAT) on skype.com. While another Indian Telecom carrier, RelianceIndiaCall.com offers at 12.9C/Min. Additionally I get to call from my phone or cell phone and not stuck with PC.
I'll tell you from my first hand experience unless the rates are going to fall drastically, not many people like me will back VoIP-PC based products.
Bottomline: It's ultimately people like me who are paying big phone bills that keep business' running.
I seriously don't understand why MS is moving away from where it should be focused.
The moment they announced the takeover, they moved the website and fucked it, check out http://teleo.msn.com/ As usual MS will release the product with tons of bugs.
Now Google with it's half scrambled egg-products can't kill MSN messenger or Yahoo(the better amongst all, yet remaining silent). Google is nothing more than a hype. Ask them to add better features and I am sure they will have as many bugs as MS has because the same programmers are writing code.
Anyway, the heat for time to release will only help Yahoo I think because their products seem to be resonably stable and reliable.
Neither India nor America can match the Japanese Trade and Talent. I only wish they had a more open immigration policy to accomodate me.
Trust ManagedCode!
We care less if it's in India, Vietnam or Europe. When will they ever come back to Mainland? Is it possible ? No.
The BPO definition will widen from call center to urine and blood sampling to stock research and auditing.
Adding to American woes is the dick-head immigration policy where we are neither getting enough graduate or P.hd students nor the ones graduating are working here.
Ultimately, China and India will de-stabilize the economic balance created and get richer. Lets accept the fact and begin to work harder or perish.
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I am trying to view the streaming but doesn't open on either boxes. XP and 2K3 server. Is it restricted to Linux only ?
Since SUNW can't write FE, they sought GOOG for it and also for non-corporate consumers. If you are feeling lonely in Redmond, move to silicon valley.
Front End is the GUI.
Back End everything else with Network.
Marketing & Sales Corporate=Sun & Consumer=Google
Who gets Richer managedcode. Bought 1000 SUNW @ $4.35.
If the announcement is not related to office, then I am selling my SUNW
Office Online - An improved and a different version of Microsoft Office. Features - Will be held close to heart, until beta. WOW! That's kool, will be something that will come out of peoples mouth. Realize: Sun's dream of Network is the computer. Migration of corporate customers: Not so easy. Unfortunately, they can't use Managed code if they want better performance.3 bd5faf308ae66b4b.html?.v=1 and is reflected in MSFT's stock price.
What started as a rumour is half confirmed by this news http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsmb/051004/828963b816cb403
Oho! you are talking about the browser. Jeez!! Which VC is backing them again after 10 years ?
I greatly appreciate it. Spec, Analysts and Program Managers made no sense in the world of Systems Programming. I have a refrence to quote now.
1 MS somehow has the copy of Google's strategy. Their is heavy corporate spying between the two. MS Managers are interviewing at Google just to sniff what's going on ? For example, a Manager working for Jeff Rikes interviewed for Google. It is speculated that Google will launch a product similar to MS Business Solutions but the product will be web based.....
2 We need an Office online and do you think Bill is sleeping ? LOL, take a dip in your bath tub. I speculate they must have already started their internal testing on the product. Don't you trust managedcode ?
3 Server-Equals-Service. Its really embaressing the way Ballmer talks. He should first learn to respect Geeks/Developers. Bill has this vision since 2000(web-services). Ultimately it is making money out of it. Gooogle is intimidating MS, trust me now MSN is under direct supervision of Bill and you will see search improve drastically. Bill was focused on Windows for the last 5 years to mature it as a world class product and it sure is now. Do I sound like his technical assistant, oho fuck!
5 The FAT Layer... As company matures their are people who worked hard once upon a time. They now buy Box tickets to Mariners game and work at Microsoft to socialiaze. Some ambitious men like Lee were frustrated because of this. IBM has the fattest layer who negotiate with governments and they have their own way of milking. Slowly MS is going that way but it would hard to see Bill sitting down and doing nothing.
6 Product Vs Product(Major Products) Windows/Office - Keep Dreaming about Linux with 1% Market share. (Office story is threatening, but new features are being offered and I speculate that Office will be an Integrated communication system or some value added product to maintain the bottomline).
SQL-Server - Oracle-Fuck yourself. Google, if you can beat this, I will put a SELL recommendation on MSFT. I have seen the performance of Yukon, it rocks. It will fuck Oracle & DB2 on 64 bit.
Xbox - So nicely timed. The entertainment division will be in Black this year.
Web-Services - GOOG leads.......
7 Morale amongst employees, Very High for GOOG plus the attitude. MS 25% supercharged, another 25% work because they like to develop and another 25% work to earn and another 25% don't care.
8 Compensation MS bumped it up for all its GMs and VPs. Yes the Box ticket holders so I don't see much difference but will make atleast 25% difference but what else Bill can do now ? Google has the best pay and job satisfaction amongst its employees now. And a sky rocketing stock producing googlainers.
MS has too much shit internally to deal with and sure Google will see some setbacks too. The clear winner will be the consumer because of innovation and I am glad corporate America is once again innovating leaving China and India behind.
It doesn't make any difference if it is transferred to the UN either. It will only make a difference, only if Chinese takeover, which is a dream. But I am certain, the Chinese are building their own network probably better than the Americans(Ya don't be overconfident, we saw our disaster management system during Katrina and Rita).
Look at these intellectual patriots like Kai-Fu-Lee. I wonder how many such computer scientists, Nuclear scientists, Chemists have returned back with rich experience in the US to build China.
Give 5 more years, they will have better weapons than US and they may join hands with Russia to JAM American satellites.
>
This is a confluence of intellectual monsters. No doubt, MIT students line up for Google recruting events. Damm it they got another revenue source and trust me this will be something big say atleast few 100 million dollars.
By the way are you using managed code to build your apps ? Trust MCPP.
Why do you think Microsoft ships products with so many bugs ? The answer should be obvious.
Boy wake up. Don't give BS excuses for the Finger Banging you did in your Smart Pants...yada yada..
Now I should question the crediblity of scores in your high school and other tests. Did you cheat ? What is that you were introduced to in your Freshman year that your physics grades dropped from 90+ to 40ish ?
If you can't dance, don't blame the dance floor. If you don't get mangoes to eat, don't tell they were sour. Accept the fact you were a loser and incompetent rather than pointing dirty fingures at renowned professors and scientists
Moving MSN into Products and Platforms means, they are now under direct supervision of Bill. MS has aggressive work culture while AOL is packed with laid-back typical corporate Americans. Bill will first fire Ballmer if he bought AOL or they will buy AOL minus it's lousy employees.
MS has totally different work culture. Trust me moving MSN into Products and Platforms means, they are now under direct supervision of Bill. MS has aggressive work culture while AOL is packed with laid-back typical corporate Americans. Bill will first fire ballmer if he bought AOL or they will buy AOL minus it's lousy employees.
In any case MSFT is a loser and TWX is a winner in this deal. What about GOOG if it secures AOL ?
You missed the most evident MSNOL. Just got approved in the Meeting :)
Looks like he is simply jealous of the new couple on honeymoon. All it's babies are being delivered without a c-section. Maybe Bill & Steve will announce a new marriage in CA as it's now legal for them to wed and try out a honeymoon.
I have to HTML encode it which I always forget.
Telecom - Death for all. The great dot-com boom, a pot full of lies filled and fuelled by companies like Enron, Bankers like Citigroup and other Wall Street associates, Optical Fiber innovators and greedy scientists like Gururaj Desh, Star Telecom Analysts like Jack Grubman together brought down the entire nations economy. Conservative and federal reserve guard, Greenspan had a hard time stearing it back to where we are. In the aftermath of Dot.Com bust, the Big 3 of Internet emerged, Yahoo, Ebay and AOL. Cisco, Sun, Amazon, MSN and others existed but their business models were not too consumer centric and they only tried hard to survive the growth. A new Stanford born baby was already conceiving and came to limelight in 2001. Yes you got it right, Google. With it's powerful Search technology it replaced AOL to join the Big 3. Google focused on web-services technologies, unveiled new model of business with its cool web based applications like search, gmail and google maps. It is always said that many of us have herd mentality. So when Google unveiled their Google Talk, the Redmond company which has already lost its focus announced the buy-out of Teleo (teleo.com). The telecom and VoIP bug has now bitten eBay. According to Bloomberg, it is willing to pay a whopping $3 Billion (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&s id=aLvNorCTFLZM&refer=us ). So is eBay willing to pay so much just for the subscribers it has? What about Yahoo/MSN integrated instant messaging and VoIP based services it offers?
These Telecom analysts are all set to ruin the recovery in the IT world, which came back in the real form of web-services. Don't forget, Skype is a big hype. Not every customer will pay you for the low quality service that Skype offers.
The entry cost for Skype like services are very low. Any company with a million dollar in its treasury and a good negotiator across the table can use much of open source tools and build such a service. Where are the customers? In my experience, between Google Talk and Yahoo!, the former got better customer rating because of the clarity compared with Yahoo!. But Google has 1/100th the number of users compared to Yahoo! and far more better features. So lesser the number of customers better the quality. I think the VoIP market will evolve as a fragmented market with at least 2 service providers for every small town and more than a dozen providers for large cities.
I only hope someone will save eBay from shelling out couple of billions for a useless services as this. I will not immediately jump to VoIP unless they come up to the quality of fixed line Telco's otherwise, I can never conduct my business with lost words in-between deals. Maybe eBay and Skype officials must negotiate using Skype VoIP to know what eBay is paying for and what Skype is offering.
I have had very bad experience with ebay too. Do they have osmething called support ? No way. However, Amazon.com's tech support which sucked in 2001 has improved drastically. Even though it looked that it has been outsourced, I managed to get the refund promptly for a book that wasn't shipped in 7 days. Moreover skype is a Big Hype. I'll tell you their will be no one carrier like ATT. Their will be atleast 100 companies like skype with very good service as the ntry cost for this business is very very low.
Lets get down to business. I call my testers in India almost everyday. In the past we have tried VoIP based products from MediaRing to Skype, but everything is a big hype. The price to call India-Bangalore is 19.6C/Min(including VAT) on skype.com. While another Indian Telecom carrier, RelianceIndiaCall.com offers at 12.9C/Min. Additionally I get to call from my phone or cell phone and not stuck with PC. I'll tell you from my first hand experience unless the rates are going to fall drastically, not many people like me will back VoIP-PC based products. Bottomline: It's ultimately people like me who are paying big phone bills that keep business' running.
I seriously don't understand why MS is moving away from where it should be focused.
The moment they announced the takeover, they moved the website and fucked it, check out http://teleo.msn.com/ As usual MS will release the product with tons of bugs.
Now Google with it's half scrambled egg-products can't kill MSN messenger or Yahoo(the better amongst all, yet remaining silent). Google is nothing more than a hype. Ask them to add better features and I am sure they will have as many bugs as MS has because the same programmers are writing code.
Anyway, the heat for time to release will only help Yahoo I think because their products seem to be resonably stable and reliable.
Neither India nor America can match the Japanese Trade and Talent. I only wish they had a more open immigration policy to accomodate me. Trust ManagedCode!
We care less if it's in India, Vietnam or Europe. When will they ever come back to Mainland? Is it possible ? No.
The BPO definition will widen from call center to urine and blood sampling to stock research and auditing.
Adding to American woes is the dick-head immigration policy where we are neither getting enough graduate or P.hd students nor the ones graduating are working here.
Ultimately, China and India will de-stabilize the economic balance created and get richer. Lets accept the fact and begin to work harder or perish.
Trust Microsoft/Trust ManagedCode!
Very well said.