All good points. If you want to understand what is behind all this, I suggest you look into the fresh (and I mean a few decades old) wounds of colonialism in every single majority-Muslim country, the oppressive nature of the regimes in those places and, last but not least, the situation in the Occupied Territories. Couple all those things with the hell Bush turned Iraq into, add to that misery and ignorance, and finally realize the prominent position of ideological power the Al-Sauds and their Wahabism has rose to thanks to their formidable wealth and control over the Holy Cities. Only in that light can the message from the Pakistani lady in TFA be understood.
You can't apply the standards of whatever place and time you're living in, to what happened in Arabia 15 centuries ago. What is a pedophile in your opinion? Someone that screws people who aren't 18? 16? 15? 14? 13? Who decides? The age of consent in Germany or Austria is 14; in Spain, it's 13. In other places, it goes down as low as 12 years old. We don't have the same genes or cultures, and different people achieve sexual maturity at different times. There's this girl of 5 years old who gave birth in Peru. And besides sexual maturity, people mature differently in general. That's for the "pedophile" part.
The claim that it was "rape" is ludicrous given that the whole marriage was as a favor to Aisha's father (the first male Muslim). If there was indeed rape, she wouldn't have been so lenient on the prophet when recounting her experiences. To quote the Wiki: A rape is a form of assault where one individual forces another to have sexual intercourse against that person's will. Nothing of the sort happened in this case. It was an arranged marriage with the blessing of the whole family, and Aisha didn't object to it. Granted, she was young, but there are plenty of young kids with more judgment, determination and wits than adults. I am not saying she falls in that category, but surely you must be able to realize that your "rape" claim is ridiculous.
I should also point out that the prophet married mostly widows, which are often of a certain age. The idea being that it is the best way to fulfill their sexual and economic needs. In fact, at the age of 25, the prophet's first wife was 40 years old. It is not contested that Khadija was the "love of his life".
It may also be worth mentioning that the actual age at which the marriage with Aisha was consummated is not exactly a settled issue. The number fluctuates from 9 to as much as 15 years old. Which was it does not really matter in my opinion. Does Georges Washington's marriage to a 12 years old take away any of the man's achievements? You decide. For my part, I am not ready to judge something that happens centuries ago based on some arbitrary figure modern society decided upon.
Let me guess...the only Muslims you know are Ben Laden and his ilk.
I'm a Muslim who also happens to be quite active on the Wiki and I see absolutely no reason why the pictures should be taken out. But then again, I see nothing wrong with starting an online petition either. Somehow, I wasn't surprised to see Zonk's name associated with the sensationalist headline.
I didn't upgrade any packages in a while, so the notifier's been sitting there for some time now. I clicked on it because I heard of the release of Gutsy. I get your point though.
One can only hope that this current poverty of science in the islamic world is reversed.
Until a few decades back, most of the Islamic world was still colonized. And ever since, they've all been spending all their money militarizing. Poverty of science in this case stems from poverty (with a couple of exceptions).
An insightful article at Jeff Atwood's Coding Horror reveals the power inside Ophcrack, an Open Source program that is capable of discover virtually any password in Windows operating systems.
[b]This is what happens with Universities, the BBC[/b]
Yeah, we all know BBC people and university staff drive Ferraris and vacation on the Cote d'Azur.
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All good points. If you want to understand what is behind all this, I suggest you look into the fresh (and I mean a few decades old) wounds of colonialism in every single majority-Muslim country, the oppressive nature of the regimes in those places and, last but not least, the situation in the Occupied Territories. Couple all those things with the hell Bush turned Iraq into, add to that misery and ignorance, and finally realize the prominent position of ideological power the Al-Sauds and their Wahabism has rose to thanks to their formidable wealth and control over the Holy Cities. Only in that light can the message from the Pakistani lady in TFA be understood.
You can't apply the standards of whatever place and time you're living in, to what happened in Arabia 15 centuries ago. What is a pedophile in your opinion? Someone that screws people who aren't 18? 16? 15? 14? 13? Who decides? The age of consent in Germany or Austria is 14; in Spain, it's 13. In other places, it goes down as low as 12 years old. We don't have the same genes or cultures, and different people achieve sexual maturity at different times. There's this girl of 5 years old who gave birth in Peru. And besides sexual maturity, people mature differently in general. That's for the "pedophile" part. The claim that it was "rape" is ludicrous given that the whole marriage was as a favor to Aisha's father (the first male Muslim). If there was indeed rape, she wouldn't have been so lenient on the prophet when recounting her experiences. To quote the Wiki: A rape is a form of assault where one individual forces another to have sexual intercourse against that person's will. Nothing of the sort happened in this case. It was an arranged marriage with the blessing of the whole family, and Aisha didn't object to it. Granted, she was young, but there are plenty of young kids with more judgment, determination and wits than adults. I am not saying she falls in that category, but surely you must be able to realize that your "rape" claim is ridiculous. I should also point out that the prophet married mostly widows, which are often of a certain age. The idea being that it is the best way to fulfill their sexual and economic needs. In fact, at the age of 25, the prophet's first wife was 40 years old. It is not contested that Khadija was the "love of his life". It may also be worth mentioning that the actual age at which the marriage with Aisha was consummated is not exactly a settled issue. The number fluctuates from 9 to as much as 15 years old. Which was it does not really matter in my opinion. Does Georges Washington's marriage to a 12 years old take away any of the man's achievements? You decide. For my part, I am not ready to judge something that happens centuries ago based on some arbitrary figure modern society decided upon.
Let me guess...the only Muslims you know are Ben Laden and his ilk.
I'm a Muslim who also happens to be quite active on the Wiki and I see absolutely no reason why the pictures should be taken out. But then again, I see nothing wrong with starting an online petition either. Somehow, I wasn't surprised to see Zonk's name associated with the sensationalist headline.
Isn't it supposed to be spelled "wary"?
News.com is Murdoch-domain if I'm not mistaken. Can someone remind me of who owns MySpace?
All your gene are belong to us.
A Londonian armed with a camera debunks the hype.
http://72.14.209.104/search?hs=sUq&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dialaphone.co.uk%2Fblog%2F%3Fp%3D750&btnG=Search
The Website hasn't been updated to reflect problems the project has encountered. Expect the GTA02 to be available by December.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Neo1973
I didn't upgrade any packages in a while, so the notifier's been sitting there for some time now. I clicked on it because I heard of the release of Gutsy. I get your point though.
My feisty's update manager shows that there's a new distro release and it provides a button to "upgrade" and it's upgrading as I type this.
The sad story of the day is how this drop will affect sales of the Neo1973 now that the iPhone is cheaper and unlockable.
Had the group been called "Fuck Jews" it would have not been racist either by your logic. People chose Judaism.
Somehow, I'm convinced the case would have hit MSM front page if it was talking about Jews...
[b]This is what happens with Universities, the BBC[/b] Yeah, we all know BBC people and university staff drive Ferraris and vacation on the Cote d'Azur.
Because it's Ubuntu.
In case you didn't notice, that particular distribution became a synonym of Linux among the laymen.
We are outraged.
Where do Switzerland fall in all this? I thought they were 3rd.
The hardware doesn't seem that slow to me. How much horsepower can you need on a phone? It runs videos fine.
Of course the touchscreen, mic, speakers and all have to be of lower quality if they wanna sell it for 100-150 bucks.
So the reason ATI is not giving us Linux users free drivers, is because they care about the security of our systems. Talk about irony!
Macs preloaded with Linux? You're forcing your luck.