I just downloaded it 3 times. You know why? Because they are stupid enough not to setup a private tracker, offer the file with 1% of cost of bandwidth and do ordinary HTTP server download just like back in 1994. My browser crashed 3 times because of a bug in completely unrelated tab.
Is there a rule that torrent should be ONLY use for piracy? Can't we get a private tracker URL which would be 100x more secure for them too? I am saying secure since even multi million companies which were founded by sole reason of conspiring p2p couldn't mess with private trackers:)
I have found the cause of RIAA/big record company puppet media's "It was free but still pirated" thing. People PAID for it and downloaded from Trackers since the HTTP server couldn't cope with millions of requests. That is what Wired(.com) says and I believe it is true. If my browser couldn't resume or I was a ordinary user who doesn't figure there is a chance to resume (via cookies etc), I would do the same thing too. Remember, we have already paid for it anyway.
If these numbers are true, this is a giant step in music scene. I bet the usual suspects being open to major changes will follow them.
I would love to see a multi million selling artist like Madonna shipping her own music using torrent technology and those ISP's support lines get overhelmed because they have filtered torrent traffic thinking it is for piracy only.
Really that hard to understand? Photoshop breaks up your image into tiles, and works on them independently (at least the last version I used). Not too different from how Google maps works. Send command, server applies changes, and you download the affected tiles. If it's a big image, you work with downsampled tiles. When you're done, you download the final full-size image. Zooming works just like Google Maps.
On something like high-quality broadband (or FiOS), this could work out pretty well, especially when they've got 10 years of technological advancement to work with. You know, thousands of people using a web based program gives a weird idea. Grid computing. Imagine you have access to Pixar like processing power as an independent artist or just a user. The entire scene would change.
Of course this needs massive progress on privacy and security enhancements for grid computing.
Well I think you blame people for not keeping up with trends but you are in fact, out of date yourself.
Things since Real G2
1) Real changed entire management staff who was in charge for bundling things or deciding very plain GUID sending to SERVER which could be risk for privacy. 2) Real opened the entire source of player/framework except million dollar worth codecs which nobody can beat on low bandwidth scenarios. 3) Real patented their inventions and said "it is free to you if it is open source project" to developers. 4) Real sued MSFT for their monopolistic actions on media player scene, an action which even AOL or Apple couldn't dare to and WON resulting a less Windows Media infected windows.
They are the only company who cares about Linux AND OS X (yes, wmedia is dead) and even Solaris.
BTW Your musician buddies must have moved to mpeg-4 based formats just like Real did on high bandwidth content. The only company rejects established multi platform/ neutral standards creates this problem with their horribly insecure ActiveX framework but they are free of any critism. .
If it is DRM, I would choose Real DRM because they actually make money from their servers. They do it for living, MS does wmedia to give hell to people who dares to reject using their OS.
Fortunately their "Lets give sites wmedia server free so they will serve our junk format" failed horribly after Flash took over the embedded video market thanks to hassle free installation and being multiplatform. Now the MS geniuses came up with "SilverLight" aka "Flash killer" (!) and naive or well paid usual suspect decided to port it to GNU/Linux.
I don't know them of course but I bet the success and well reviews of Realplayer/OS X made them change direction on Windows too. You know, they figured people really, only wants a multimedia multi format player and nothing else.
I am glad they don't care about the horrible feedback from/. etc. people and keep supporting open source and multi platform. They could make it Windows only, get some "exclusive rights" from MS and happily ship a enhanced windows media player instead of inventing things.
That is why we have the PC Decrapifier: http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/ I got a better solution. Don't buy Dell, buy from a company who respects your rights to choose your own software.
Windows, Linux, Apple doesn't matter. There are companies like that.
Deep level issue is, this issue somehow related to IE and ActiveX. Good luck removing them from Windows;)
I still don't have clue why Real spares their time and money to a platform they don't make any money from and get flamed even while they offer their million dollar assets (patents) for free to open source developers.
Yes, they are the same stupids who offers a complete media player solution to your AC favorite system along with its source code and complete framework.
Thats why I enjoy using Linux, several easy to use languages(Python, Perl), documentation, compilers and a 100% customizable system, thats just about the best you can get now with Windows and to a lesser extent OSX hides data from the end user, remember back when the C64 you could program all your games just on that, its no wonder that so many people don't have a clue about technology, its totally hidden. I wonder what will you do by clicking "grep" in/usr/bin inside Finder? I wonder what happens when KDE allows you to see your/usr/bin directory in a window too?
You tell hides data from end user, I say it found a way to make Unix arch usable to average end user. These people call Apple service center in panic if they accidentally boot in single user mode (Apple+S).
Run Terminal in Utilities, all your data is there, all your directories. That is where you would use those directories anyway.
In fact, I got OS X Fink installed in/sw and I took special care to HIDE/sw directory from Finder. Finder has nothing to do with Unix/BSD Stuff, it shouldn't show them.
I disagree with "you can't theme", "we will even remove input managers so you won't hack" type of dictatorship but Finder has nothing to do with those "hidden" directories.
If you really think you should be able to see those files, no "undocumented" stuff exists, they are simply hidden by a couple of Finder file flags. I don't recommend.DS_Store in/bin of course;)
That would require a real miracle as Apple shipping the entire OS X Frameworks and XCode to Windows. Adium is a pure OS X Native program and half of the reason why you love it could be that.
Actually, trying to migrate from Eudora to ANYTHING is a pain in the ass. Users are essentially locked-in because the file format they use for storing messages is so botched that nothing can properly import it.
We have a guy at the office who really wants to switch to Outlook, but we just can't transfer over his messages from Eudora. Eudora uses standard MBOX format, that is why it was(and still) the choice for multi platform scenarios.
Actually there are many tools which can import Eudora data well.
Open the files with a text editor, you will see they are pure text.
While we already have very good to excellent 3d games as Sauerbraten and Nexuiz, we still are behind commercial software companies in the graphical area. Many otherwise excellent games have poorly designed characters, maps, weapons etc. In the last two years the gap shrunk, but IMO more work is needed. PR is a huge problem too. I check Mac news, download sites every day and I had no clue a game like "Sauerbraten" exists and it can even be binary (dmg) downloaded from Sourceforge.
There is no entry on Apple Downloads or de-facto download standard site, Versiontracker too. If they submitted it to Softpedia, those guys would even review it. Using Apple downloads site for years, I know they would advertise it on front page as it is open source and uses OS X technologies.
I know it sounds lame but they should use Digg etc. like dynamic sites to advertise their game/work. One iPhone story less, would work for everyone;)
Check Amazon top selling software, OS X Leopard is currently number 4 without even being released yet, XP Home edition is somewhere at 50th or something, Vista DOES NOT EXIST on that list which has Ubuntu, the same Ubuntu which you can download for free is on list.
Link to the page/w ubuntu? I don't see it there. Eh, usual side effects of referencing a dynamic thing as top selling list:)
It was there when I last checked, at 90 something place. Now something must have replaced it.
The list is so dynamic that after people learn (from rumours) that some of their software won't work with Leopard until they get updated, OS X 10.4 Tiger re-made into list.
Seriously, multilingual domain names are a pain (for the whole humanity). Visiting japan, last year, I saw a lot of servers using japanish simplified language on it. As a foreigner, I hadn't the minimal idea about what the site was (without clicking on ot). Clicking on it didn't help either. Yes, a lot of japanese have the same problem with english domain names, but adding multilanguage names adds more complexity to the whole thing. I would like to see the face of a chinese guy trying to decrypt some URL using ukranian characters... or... trying to write it on his japanese keyboard... English domain names will stay forever, there are way too many references to them.
The international domain name will be purchased in addition. I would buy 3 domains right now if they finally decide what to do.
Japanese and Chinese would be hard to understand, just imagine your nick (El Lobo) is some local language and without special chars, it reads as "Lobotimised Moron" in that language. Sounds extreme? There are WORSE situations than that which I better not tell.
These people pay the same price for domain names, pay same price to hosting and for some reason in Unicode age, they can't have their own chars in domain name.
We got 3-4 extra chars in my language and I already live HELL trying to pronounce our domains in english ending up character by character spelling.
International domain names will be purchased in addition to.com names, the.com will never fade away. If those buroucrats finally decide what to do, it will be a huge domain name spending like dotcom days again.
I also wish the international mailbox names (as alias for example,same deal) start to get discussed.
"Check Amazon top selling software, OS X Leopard is currently number 4 without even being released yet, XP Home edition is somewhere at 50th or something, Vista DOES NOT EXIST on that list which has Ubuntu, the same Ubuntu which you can download for free is on list."
It seems to be that you're not looking at the big picture in the software business. MS Windows, at least for the past 10 years, has been mostly sold through computer purchases - preinstalled, that is. So why would someone go buy MS Windows when they get it with their computer? The rankings you're citing are not a true indicator of how MS Windows is doing in the OS market. Most of Mac people buy their OS X from Apple, I am noting for you again: OS does not EXIST yet, it is pre-order without any kind of "early pay" rebate. People say "We buy whatever ships in whatever time", it is degree of unbeliavable trust.
General PCs come with Windows Pre installed,true. The thing is, consumers demand the earlier version of Windows even ready to pay extra price. The "Vista" they don't want worth billions of dollars of development costs. Microsoft spent billions for nothing.
Oh fuck, Microsoft won't do anything about this. It's FUD. Let's remember that come next year, there is likely to be a US administration less willing to ignore Microsoft's anti-competitive behavior than the last one, and the last thing Microsoft wants is a renewed DoJ campaign against them in the midst of Europe cleaning their clocks.
But this all points to one thing. Software patents are bad. As a person using computers for a long time, I can easily say: Expect ANYTHING from Microsoft. They have no limit or ethics when it comes to their core business.
Check Amazon top selling software, OS X Leopard is currently number 4 without even being released yet, XP Home edition is somewhere at 50th or something, Vista DOES NOT EXIST on that list which has Ubuntu, the same Ubuntu which you can download for free is on list.
If it came to this point and they started to work with some struggling Linux vendors who would give up their real job to port some Flash wannabe technologies, it is the exact time to get afraid. That same vendor also speaks about patents, unpublished agreements with MSFT, their highest IT manager writes how "great" MS Office XML is...
They promised to remove any patent infected software. It's not like they promised to pay everybody's legal fees or anything like that. So, if one uses/deploys Redhat Enterprise, he/she must stay away from recent Novell introduced software such as Silverlight clone.
"BTW, anyone got a "stickies" (on-screen Post-It (tm)) equivalent for the Mac or Gnome?"
For the Mac? Mac has "Stickies.app" itself:) I think you wanted to mean KDE or Gnome, they both have similar applications, I can't access to my KDE installation on OS X right now but it must be coming with KDE as "KNotes" and Gnome one is named "Gnome Stickies".
I think they must be keeping it away from "base installation" and provide an optional package so that is why you don't see them.
While speaking about Gnome etc. I think you should be comparing WindowMaker to Amiga. OS X is really a bit dumbed down version of original Next and the "real dock" or the massive amount of window controls are in WindowMaker which is OpenStep. If a Mac user asks me about a full screen X11 Window Manager, I send them to WindowMaker and nothing else.
Because everyone must suffer. No kidding. Now I feel like a very evil person for enabling "Download and install critical updates" on newbie or non technical Windows friends.
They will be presented with IE 7 and its problems. Hopefully they won't figure it is my fault:)
It is always the same thing if you use OS'es default browser. Also nobody can guarantee Safari 3 Final will ship for 10.4.9 (the day Leopard ships) It is all up to Apple.
Interesting is, now Opera and Omniweb requires minimum 10.4 , somehow Apple dictates them minimum 10.4. Not pointing a gun to their faces of course, it is just Developer tools and how system works.
I don't believe MySpaceIM uses XMPP, and that's quite the recent protocol. Then again, expecting them to follow any standards is like expecting Microsoft to follow pre-existing open standards they weren't involved in the creation for. One wonders doesn't these companies stop a second and ask themselves why Google, a giant used XMPP as their root protocol on IM services and why they didn't code another closed one?
Google and Apple (as including XMPP on server,client) knows technologies doesn't have scalability and especially portability and open specs has no future in communications.
If AOL started IM just today, it would be XMPP based. The "MS" situation is different. MS needs to keep full feature service in their own Windows OS. With an open protocol, you can't do it.
I remember seeing a post here on slashdot from one of OS X Desktop core authors, possibly the guy who lead the entire project (Quartz etc.) explaining why they decided some methods, what was the reason for deciding them and why some sort of PDF used on OS X.
If one filesystem/kernel developer posts something like that and explains step by step why HFS+ isn't that "horrible" (as people do raw HD editing on very same fs) and why they can't go with a "plain" filesystem, the whole discussion will end for good.
There are lots of junk data even made into Wikipedia as reference information.
As you probably know, the actual power of HFS+ spec is not yet used even by Apple. They have even had to go back in time and add extensions as explained there: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10-4.ars/6
That schizophrenic approach (both resource and extension matters) eventually cost them with that mp3 virus (?) comedy which people should be still glad that it ended up in hands of a security company (one way or another) rather than some really bad guys.
Funny is, MS didn't use the power of NTFS too (it has alternate streams etc.) and yet tried to implement a new filesystem (WinFS) which may have been dropped for same reason.
The promise of ZFS is to be the filesystem which nobody should find any need to add features or enhance so if Apple really decides to give up HFS+, I bet it will be ZFS. The overhead of it is not suitable to current home or even workstation machines though. If flash/magnetic hybrid drives go down to current standard SATA2 drive price levels, overhead wouldn't be issue of course. That time, the redundancy and extra ease of scalability would matter which is provided by ZFS.
I am all for Web 2.0 or even proposed stuff to Web 3.0 , I am against idiotic PR schemes abusing the web 2.0 technologies/fashion.
So yes, I am picking on Web 2.0 companies and Google doing nothing against the massive blog abuse (as usual) is also on my target list.
When you take Slashdot copies serious and watch them for 2-3 days, you can figure a real horrible level of abuse and trickery going on. I am sure people who were supporting them as a highly dynamic alternatives all gave up or soon give up.
The paid blog etc. stuff even made into Slashdot in couple of stories as far as I saw, I am just trying to alert Slashdot to keep things way they are and don't try to race with some teen "fanboy" heavens as Slashdot, on 10th year.
Q: How many of those one million registered user IDs are active?
Explanation: I have seen a fair number of folks that have defected to other platforms/communities to find resources or tools that Slashdot does not provide. I've continued to hang around as I appreciate what Slashdot has to offer, but are there any plans to change anything?
Oh, and congratulations on 10 years. I would love to see 2 years graphic of active user ids. I think many people went to slashdot copies and they came back when they figured the horrible "Web 2.0" PR company, paid "Blogger" abuse in action on these places which I won't name but all can guess.
I think the chart would be interesting for that.
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I also have problems with some of the editing that happens on the site. While it's not consistent, it seems like at least once a day, either Zonk or kdawson post an article that is highly inflammatory and represents the article poorly (so badly that it looks like they're blatantly lying about what the article says). Some of the complaining that goes on isn't warranted, but a lot of the times they have a real point. Flame article or trolling article scoop are Slasdot things and does not make me that irritated.
I am more interested in these stories which seems like a cheap way of advertising even along with referrer in Eclipse case: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/23/0019224 That appeared on Apple section which even made professional Java developers I know confused.
I am afraid some people/companies is really using/abusing the time while Zonk is in charge. I am not blaming Zonk, I am blaming them.
Another question is: If we prove there is really a Slashdot abuse in place, would there be some sort of "edit" and the banning of story submitter (e.g. PR company) openly so they will never,ever confuse slashdot with Digg again?
Is anyone paid to publish this story or submit this story to Slashdot "news for nerds?".
If this kind of junk makes into front page of slashdot second time in a month (check http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/23/0019224 which is there on APPLE topic with a referrer? URL), why the hell are you suggesting us to pay/subscribe to get rid of ads? I could care less about ads, there are 3 layers of disabled software which would allow me to erase them. We, subscribers pay so Slashdot wouldn't have to post this kind of PR junk to front page.
Also, the accepting editor should know that besides whatever he hears on IRC or Web, Slashdot community aren't really lifeleless nerds who doesn't know how things work.
First, there was a completely off topic (Apple topic? Come on) story with a referrer URL and now this story.
If this kind of PR junk , site abuse makes to front page, lets all go elsewhere and "fix that" instead of trying to fix a broken thing.
this is just stinking PR, please... Really suspicious amount of Facebook stories down to my countries news broadcast TV lately.
Slashdot-as usual gets victimised by someones professional PR agenda it seems.
I expect some big media scandal coming from Facebook soon. It is completely unexplainable to me, it must have some form of thing going on.
It is _really_ stinking PR since Facebook is not implementing XMPP, they are just coming up with a new propetioary closed protocol.
This is the Digg scheme. Post a PR crap to some blog, make it digg up by dedicated "Web 2" monkeys (actually getting paid) and really profit.
Can Zonk explain what kind of "light" he saw in this story to make into front page of Slashdot? I have never used "serious problems with story? Alert" which is appearing on "future stories" when you are subscriber but if I saw this story, I really would.
What the hell is Facebook? What kind of unique thing it offers? What kind of this IM client offers? Working in web page? Jabber guys implemented it at Netscape 6.2 days for Gods sake! Even AOL mail client has AIM working inside along with Yahoo mail.
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I just downloaded it 3 times. You know why? Because they are stupid enough not to setup a private tracker, offer the file with 1% of cost of bandwidth and do ordinary HTTP server download just like back in 1994. My browser crashed 3 times because of a bug in completely unrelated tab.
:)
Is there a rule that torrent should be ONLY use for piracy? Can't we get a private tracker URL which would be 100x more secure for them too? I am saying secure since even multi million companies which were founded by sole reason of conspiring p2p couldn't mess with private trackers
I have found the cause of RIAA/big record company puppet media's "It was free but still pirated" thing. People PAID for it and downloaded from Trackers since the HTTP server couldn't cope with millions of requests. That is what Wired(.com) says and I believe it is true. If my browser couldn't resume or I was a ordinary user who doesn't figure there is a chance to resume (via cookies etc), I would do the same thing too. Remember, we have already paid for it anyway.
If these numbers are true, this is a giant step in music scene. I bet the usual suspects being open to major changes will follow them.
I would love to see a multi million selling artist like Madonna shipping her own music using torrent technology and those ISP's support lines get overhelmed because they have filtered torrent traffic thinking it is for piracy only.
On something like high-quality broadband (or FiOS), this could work out pretty well, especially when they've got 10 years of technological advancement to work with. You know, thousands of people using a web based program gives a weird idea. Grid computing. Imagine you have access to Pixar like processing power as an independent artist or just a user. The entire scene would change.
Of course this needs massive progress on privacy and security enhancements for grid computing.
Well I think you blame people for not keeping up with trends but you are in fact, out of date yourself.
Things since Real G2
1) Real changed entire management staff who was in charge for bundling things or deciding very plain GUID sending to SERVER which could be risk for privacy.
2) Real opened the entire source of player/framework except million dollar worth codecs which nobody can beat on low bandwidth scenarios.
3) Real patented their inventions and said "it is free to you if it is open source project" to developers.
4) Real sued MSFT for their monopolistic actions on media player scene, an action which even AOL or Apple couldn't dare to and WON resulting a less Windows Media infected windows.
They are the only company who cares about Linux AND OS X (yes, wmedia is dead) and even Solaris.
BTW Your musician buddies must have moved to mpeg-4 based formats just like Real did on high bandwidth content. The only company rejects established multi platform/ neutral standards creates this problem with their horribly insecure ActiveX framework but they are free of any critism.
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If it is DRM, I would choose Real DRM because they actually make money from their servers. They do it for living, MS does wmedia to give hell to people who dares to reject using their OS.
/. etc. people and keep supporting open source and multi platform. They could make it Windows only, get some "exclusive rights" from MS and happily ship a enhanced windows media player instead of inventing things.
Fortunately their "Lets give sites wmedia server free so they will serve our junk format" failed horribly after Flash took over the embedded video market thanks to hassle free installation and being multiplatform. Now the MS geniuses came up with "SilverLight" aka "Flash killer" (!) and naive or well paid usual suspect decided to port it to GNU/Linux.
I don't know them of course but I bet the success and well reviews of Realplayer/OS X made them change direction on Windows too. You know, they figured people really, only wants a multimedia multi format player and nothing else.
I am glad they don't care about the horrible feedback from
Windows, Linux, Apple doesn't matter. There are companies like that.
Deep level issue is, this issue somehow related to IE and ActiveX. Good luck removing them from Windows
I still don't have clue why Real spares their time and money to a platform they don't make any money from and get flamed even while they offer their million dollar assets (patents) for free to open source developers.
Yes, they are the same stupids who offers a complete media player solution to your AC favorite system along with its source code and complete framework.
You tell hides data from end user, I say it found a way to make Unix arch usable to average end user. These people call Apple service center in panic if they accidentally boot in single user mode (Apple+S).
Run Terminal in Utilities, all your data is there, all your directories. That is where you would use those directories anyway.
In fact, I got OS X Fink installed in
I disagree with "you can't theme", "we will even remove input managers so you won't hack" type of dictatorship but Finder has nothing to do with those "hidden" directories.
If you really think you should be able to see those files, no "undocumented" stuff exists, they are simply hidden by a couple of Finder file flags. I don't recommend
That would require a real miracle as Apple shipping the entire OS X Frameworks and XCode to Windows. Adium is a pure OS X Native program and half of the reason why you love it could be that.
We have a guy at the office who really wants to switch to Outlook, but we just can't transfer over his messages from Eudora. Eudora uses standard MBOX format, that is why it was(and still) the choice for multi platform scenarios.
Actually there are many tools which can import Eudora data well.
Open the files with a text editor, you will see they are pure text.
There is no entry on Apple Downloads or de-facto download standard site, Versiontracker too. If they submitted it to Softpedia, those guys would even review it. Using Apple downloads site for years, I know they would advertise it on front page as it is open source and uses OS X technologies.
I know it sounds lame but they should use Digg etc. like dynamic sites to advertise their game/work. One iPhone story less, would work for everyone
It was there when I last checked, at 90 something place. Now something must have replaced it.
The list is so dynamic that after people learn (from rumours) that some of their software won't work with Leopard until they get updated, OS X 10.4 Tiger re-made into list.
The international domain name will be purchased in addition. I would buy 3 domains right now if they finally decide what to do.
Japanese and Chinese would be hard to understand, just imagine your nick (El Lobo) is some local language and without special chars, it reads as "Lobotimised Moron" in that language. Sounds extreme? There are WORSE situations than that which I better not tell.
These people pay the same price for domain names, pay same price to hosting and for some reason in Unicode age, they can't have their own chars in domain name.
We got 3-4 extra chars in my language and I already live HELL trying to pronounce our domains in english ending up character by character spelling.
International domain names will be purchased in addition to
I also wish the international mailbox names (as alias for example,same deal) start to get discussed.
It seems to be that you're not looking at the big picture in the software business. MS Windows, at least for the past 10 years, has been mostly sold through computer purchases - preinstalled, that is. So why would someone go buy MS Windows when they get it with their computer? The rankings you're citing are not a true indicator of how MS Windows is doing in the OS market. Most of Mac people buy their OS X from Apple, I am noting for you again: OS does not EXIST yet, it is pre-order without any kind of "early pay" rebate. People say "We buy whatever ships in whatever time", it is degree of unbeliavable trust.
General PCs come with Windows Pre installed,true. The thing is, consumers demand the earlier version of Windows even ready to pay extra price. The "Vista" they don't want worth billions of dollars of development costs. Microsoft spent billions for nothing.
But this all points to one thing. Software patents are bad. As a person using computers for a long time, I can easily say: Expect ANYTHING from Microsoft. They have no limit or ethics when it comes to their core business.
Check Amazon top selling software, OS X Leopard is currently number 4 without even being released yet, XP Home edition is somewhere at 50th or something, Vista DOES NOT EXIST on that list which has Ubuntu, the same Ubuntu which you can download for free is on list.
If it came to this point and they started to work with some struggling Linux vendors who would give up their real job to port some Flash wannabe technologies, it is the exact time to get afraid. That same vendor also speaks about patents, unpublished agreements with MSFT, their highest IT manager writes how "great" MS Office XML is...
I think it is really time to "fear".
I hope I got it right.
"BTW, anyone got a "stickies" (on-screen Post-It (tm)) equivalent for the Mac or Gnome?"
:) I think you wanted to mean KDE or Gnome, they both have similar applications, I can't access to my KDE installation on OS X right now but it must be coming with KDE as "KNotes" and Gnome one is named "Gnome Stickies".
For the Mac? Mac has "Stickies.app" itself
I think they must be keeping it away from "base installation" and provide an optional package so that is why you don't see them.
While speaking about Gnome etc. I think you should be comparing WindowMaker to Amiga. OS X is really a bit dumbed down version of original Next and the "real dock" or the massive amount of window controls are in WindowMaker which is OpenStep. If a Mac user asks me about a full screen X11 Window Manager, I send them to WindowMaker and nothing else.
They will be presented with IE 7 and its problems. Hopefully they won't figure it is my fault
http://www.apple.com/safari/
for Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
It is always the same thing if you use OS'es default browser. Also nobody can guarantee Safari 3 Final will ship for 10.4.9 (the day Leopard ships) It is all up to Apple.
Interesting is, now Opera and Omniweb requires minimum 10.4 , somehow Apple dictates them minimum 10.4. Not pointing a gun to their faces of course, it is just Developer tools and how system works.
Google and Apple (as including XMPP on server,client) knows technologies doesn't have scalability and especially portability and open specs has no future in communications.
If AOL started IM just today, it would be XMPP based. The "MS" situation is different. MS needs to keep full feature service in their own Windows OS. With an open protocol, you can't do it.
I remember seeing a post here on slashdot from one of OS X Desktop core authors, possibly the guy who lead the entire project (Quartz etc.) explaining why they decided some methods, what was the reason for deciding them and why some sort of PDF used on OS X.
If one filesystem/kernel developer posts something like that and explains step by step why HFS+ isn't that "horrible" (as people do raw HD editing on very same fs) and why they can't go with a "plain" filesystem, the whole discussion will end for good.
There are lots of junk data even made into Wikipedia as reference information.
As you probably know, the actual power of HFS+ spec is not yet used even by Apple. They have even had to go back in time and add extensions as explained there:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10-4.ars/6
That schizophrenic approach (both resource and extension matters) eventually cost them with that mp3 virus (?) comedy which people should be still glad that it ended up in hands of a security company (one way or another) rather than some really bad guys.
Funny is, MS didn't use the power of NTFS too (it has alternate streams etc.) and yet tried to implement a new filesystem (WinFS) which may have been dropped for same reason.
The promise of ZFS is to be the filesystem which nobody should find any need to add features or enhance so if Apple really decides to give up HFS+, I bet it will be ZFS. The overhead of it is not suitable to current home or even workstation machines though. If flash/magnetic hybrid drives go down to current standard SATA2 drive price levels, overhead wouldn't be issue of course. That time, the redundancy and extra ease of scalability would matter which is provided by ZFS.
I am all for Web 2.0 or even proposed stuff to Web 3.0 , I am against idiotic PR schemes abusing the web 2.0 technologies/fashion.
So yes, I am picking on Web 2.0 companies and Google doing nothing against the massive blog abuse (as usual) is also on my target list.
When you take Slashdot copies serious and watch them for 2-3 days, you can figure a real horrible level of abuse and trickery going on. I am sure people who were supporting them as a highly dynamic alternatives all gave up or soon give up.
The paid blog etc. stuff even made into Slashdot in couple of stories as far as I saw, I am just trying to alert Slashdot to keep things way they are and don't try to race with some teen "fanboy" heavens as Slashdot, on 10th year.
Q: How many of those one million registered user IDs are active?
Explanation: I have seen a fair number of folks that have defected to other platforms/communities to find resources or tools that Slashdot does not provide. I've continued to hang around as I appreciate what Slashdot has to offer, but are there any plans to change anything?
Oh, and congratulations on 10 years. I would love to see 2 years graphic of active user ids. I think many people went to slashdot copies and they came back when they figured the horrible "Web 2.0" PR company, paid "Blogger" abuse in action on these places which I won't name but all can guess.
I think the chart would be interesting for that.
I am more interested in these stories which seems like a cheap way of advertising even along with referrer in Eclipse case:
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/23/0019224
That appeared on Apple section which even made professional Java developers I know confused.
And now "Facebook gets a IM client" shamessly posted by a PR guy:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/05/201219
I am afraid some people/companies is really using/abusing the time while Zonk is in charge. I am not blaming Zonk, I am blaming them.
Another question is: If we prove there is really a Slashdot abuse in place, would there be some sort of "edit" and the banning of story submitter (e.g. PR company) openly so they will never,ever confuse slashdot with Digg again?
Is anyone paid to publish this story or submit this story to Slashdot "news for nerds?".
If this kind of junk makes into front page of slashdot second time in a month (check http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/23/0019224 which is there on APPLE topic with a referrer? URL), why the hell are you suggesting us to pay/subscribe to get rid of ads? I could care less about ads, there are 3 layers of disabled software which would allow me to erase them. We, subscribers pay so Slashdot wouldn't have to post this kind of PR junk to front page.
Also, the accepting editor should know that besides whatever he hears on IRC or Web, Slashdot community aren't really lifeleless nerds who doesn't know how things work.
First, there was a completely off topic (Apple topic? Come on) story with a referrer URL and now this story.
If this kind of PR junk , site abuse makes to front page, lets all go elsewhere and "fix that" instead of trying to fix a broken thing.
Slashdot-as usual gets victimised by someones professional PR agenda it seems.
I expect some big media scandal coming from Facebook soon. It is completely unexplainable to me, it must have some form of thing going on.
It is _really_ stinking PR since Facebook is not implementing XMPP, they are just coming up with a new propetioary closed protocol.
This is the Digg scheme. Post a PR crap to some blog, make it digg up by dedicated "Web 2" monkeys (actually getting paid) and really profit.
Can Zonk explain what kind of "light" he saw in this story to make into front page of Slashdot? I have never used "serious problems with story? Alert" which is appearing on "future stories" when you are subscriber but if I saw this story, I really would.
What the hell is Facebook? What kind of unique thing it offers? What kind of this IM client offers? Working in web page? Jabber guys implemented it at Netscape 6.2 days for Gods sake! Even AOL mail client has AIM working inside along with Yahoo mail.