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Facebook Gets New Integrated IM Client

Stitch_Surfs writes "Blognation is reporting that the IM client FriendVOX has gone live for Facebook. This is the first time that Facebook users (of which there are now some 32 million) can communicate with one another from directly within the Facebook application. This development, by UK-based Techlightenment, effectively closes the loop for any external applications to be used (or necessary) for communication among Facebook users.'It will be interesting to see how quickly FriendVox is adopted and could it ever replace Twitter by simply using the Facebook status. The other question is what will Facebook do if FriendVox ever became too popular? Would they seek to buy it or replicate it themselves? This is the real dilemma facing all Facebook developers living inside the Facebook walled garden, and recently this happened when a developer showed Facebook their new marketplace application which would run inside of Facebook. Inside of two weeks Facebook had suddenly launched their own marketplace!'"

79 comments

  1. facebook future by stoolpigeon · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    1. Re:facebook future by MadnessASAP · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you actually paid attention to what you were typing in during the sign up process you would notice that you provided Facebook the password to your e-mail account and gave them permission to access it and find all your contacts. Since you apparently did not realize that this was going on I would suggest that you both:
      A) Learn to read things before you fill them out/agree to them, and
      B) Resign any position that gives you signing authority at your current job.

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    2. Re:facebook future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bit of an assumption. Facebook does not _require_ any email account credentials in order to sign up.

  2. If only it was so easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    could it ever replace Twitter Your ideas intrigue me...
  3. hyperbole by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the first time that Facebook users (of which there are now some 32 million) can communicate with one another from directly within the Facebook application.

    Really? The first time they could communicate with each other? what were they doing on the site before?

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    1. Re:hyperbole by oahazmatt · · Score: 1

      Really? The first time they could communicate with each other? what were they doing on the site before?
      Stalking does not require communication.
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      find their privates are on the Internet.
    2. Re:hyperbole by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny

      The duct tape and knife are just for interpretive dance.

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    3. Re:hyperbole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, when stalking it is good advice to not communicate and keep visibility low.... ....not that I have been peering at y'all through your basement window wells.....

    4. Re:hyperbole by Zorbane · · Score: 1

      And the diapers are just the latest fad.

    5. Re:hyperbole by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Whew! I was afraid someone would discover that I am the true goatse.

      Oh, damn.

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    6. Re:hyperbole by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

      Please. I prefer, "President of the fan club ..." ;)

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    7. Re:hyperbole by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 1

      Until now, there has been no way to communicate in this kind of direct and instant way in the repertoire of facebook applications.

      That said, it is a little bit of a hyperbole.

    8. Re:hyperbole by Seumas · · Score: 1

      This is awesome! Since everyone uses their social network (myspace or facebook) as their ENTIRE INTERNET EXPERIENCE, just like back in the old BBS days where each person's universe consisted of one single point of connection and interaction and failure, now they can use an IM client/network that depends entirely on the same stupid social network. Now when your account is banned or the system is down, you'll not only lose your "email" and connections with all your friends (and self worth), but you'll also lose your IM-ability. GENIUS!

      The next great war should be against social networks. F them.

    9. Re:hyperbole by Sethosayher · · Score: 1

      Yeah, all you need is a good bush to crouch behind that faces the bathroom window.

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    10. Re:hyperbole by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      Really? The first time they could communicate with each other? what were they doing on the site before? Sending each other shitty application invites. And poking.
  4. Facebook isn't creepy... by Baylan295 · · Score: 1

    As if facebook wasn't creepy enough... now people can see if I'm online at that VERY moment? Thats not scary at all.

    1. Re:Facebook isn't creepy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um...I believe they already could.

    2. Re:Facebook isn't creepy... by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1

      This has always been true. http://www.facebook.com/friends.php?online

    3. Re:Facebook isn't creepy... by QMalcolm · · Score: 1

      Luckily you can hide your online status. Thank god for that.

    4. Re:Facebook isn't creepy... by taursir · · Score: 1

      Uh oh! I sure hope you don't use any other IM clients. Those are the worst for creep-factor, because people are known to use them for communication!

  5. Oh good. by Spazntwich · · Score: 1

    It was always so hard for me to click on someone's screen name in their profile to open up an AIM window to use them.

    Popular instant messaging systems be damned, we need another way to send our friends links to shock sites that doesn't work with any others!

    1. Re:Oh good. by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      It was always so hard for me to click on someone's screen name in their profile to open up an AIM window to use them.

      Popular instant messaging systems be damned, we need another way to send our friends links to shock sites that doesn't work with any others! Don't say the new IM system developed in 2007 is not built on XMPP (aka Jabber).

      I am afraid to check the degree of their stupidity.
    2. Re:Oh good. by jZnat · · Score: 1

      I don't believe MySpaceIM uses XMPP, and that's quite the recent protocol. Then again, expecting them to follow any standards is like expecting Microsoft to follow pre-existing open standards they weren't involved in the creation for.

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    3. Re:Oh good. by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I don't believe MySpaceIM uses XMPP, and that's quite the recent protocol. Then again, expecting them to follow any standards is like expecting Microsoft to follow pre-existing open standards they weren't involved in the creation for. One wonders doesn't these companies stop a second and ask themselves why Google, a giant used XMPP as their root protocol on IM services and why they didn't code another closed one?

      Google and Apple (as including XMPP on server,client) knows technologies doesn't have scalability and especially portability and open specs has no future in communications.

      If AOL started IM just today, it would be XMPP based. The "MS" situation is different. MS needs to keep full feature service in their own Windows OS. With an open protocol, you can't do it.

  6. Legally XSS by Facebook? by zukinux · · Score: 0, Troll

    I've registered to Facebook the other day, after registration, they pointed me to check my e-mail at gmail (I mean, they redirected me to gmail! not told me to go check my email!), okay, So I went to my gmail, and clicked on their mail's link to authenticate I'm a real user, and afterwards, in the 2nd part of the registration, Facebook told me who of my contact in gmail has a Facebook account! (How did they know who are my contact, stored at gmail?), also, they offered me to send e-mail, suggesting about facebook to the people whom I've talked to in my gmail, and are not registered at Facebook and I would like to suggest them to Facebook.

    I've asked myself, how, and why, would Facebook know which my contact are?! if it's not shared between Gmail and Facebook, it's the most discovered XSS I've ever seen.

    1. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by neil-ngc · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I signed up, I had to enter my password first into gmail to confirm, and then into facebook for it to grab my contacts. The second step was skippable. That was only a couple weeks ago. You sure you didn't do that?

    2. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by brunascle · · Score: 1

      perhaps his username and password are the same in gmail and facebook, and thought facebook was asking for his facebook credentials when they were actually asking for his gmail credentials. :)

    3. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by Safiire+Arrowny · · Score: 1

      They used to do that, but the difference being that they asked for your Gmail password and they would log in and yank your contact list for this purpose, and it was optional.

    4. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

      Wow. Somebody just outed himself on Slashdot. Is there any procedure for handing in one's geek credentials? ;)

    5. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by Threni · · Score: 0

      > they pointed me to check my e-mail at gmail (I mean, they redirected me to gmail!
      > How did they know who are my contact, stored at gmail?)

      Because they didn't redirect you to gmail, they took you to a fake page, trapped your password, logged in, got your contacts, then logged out and let you log in at the real page. Don't trust links in emails etc. Always type the URL yourself.

      (Even if this isn't what's actually happening, it could be).

    6. Re:Legally XSS by Facebook? by zukinux · · Score: 1

      The problem is, they never asked me to check for my contacts.
      I was amazed!

  7. who cares so what not news by justdrew · · Score: 0, Troll

    this is just stinking PR, please...

    1. Re:who cares so what not news by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      this is just stinking PR, please... Really suspicious amount of Facebook stories down to my countries news broadcast TV lately.

      Slashdot-as usual gets victimised by someones professional PR agenda it seems.

      I expect some big media scandal coming from Facebook soon. It is completely unexplainable to me, it must have some form of thing going on.

      It is _really_ stinking PR since Facebook is not implementing XMPP, they are just coming up with a new propetioary closed protocol.

      This is the Digg scheme. Post a PR crap to some blog, make it digg up by dedicated "Web 2" monkeys (actually getting paid) and really profit.

      Can Zonk explain what kind of "light" he saw in this story to make into front page of Slashdot? I have never used "serious problems with story? Alert" which is appearing on "future stories" when you are subscriber but if I saw this story, I really would.

      What the hell is Facebook? What kind of unique thing it offers? What kind of this IM client offers? Working in web page? Jabber guys implemented it at Netscape 6.2 days for Gods sake! Even AOL mail client has AIM working inside along with Yahoo mail.

  8. Why. by Pojut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I definately prefer Facebook over MySpace, and while I have found it to be EXTREMELY useful (located some friends I hadn't seen or heard from since middle school...a couple from as far as back as elementary school) I absolutely despise this application crap...part of the allure facebook had for me was that it was clean, simple, and not flashy. While I know that all of these applications are entirely voluntary and they don't just toss them in your face (i.e. you have to actually go browsing in the application section to see them) it still bothers me that Facebook continues to expand like this.

    Don't get me wrong...from a business sense, I understand why it's being done. From a lot of my friend's point of view, I notice that a large portion of them like the idea of of the applications...but still. Slowly, Facebook is becoming more and more like MySpace....and that's definitely not good.

    1. Re:Why. by corifornia2 · · Score: 0

      I dont think that I could give a shit about people I knew in middle school. (Note: its 11 years after 8th grade

    2. Re:Why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed 100%. Facebook used to be "MySpace for college students". Relatively closed network, served the basic functions of finding your friends, organizing events and leaving posts to people you met at a party. It was useful and I was a satisfied user.

      Then it was opened to anyone, step 1 towards Myspace - and now the applications and "friend networks" containing hundreds of faceless friends have destroyed the utility of the site and made Facebook into Myspace Two. Some peoples' walls consist of over 50% "THX FOR THE ADD". Ecch! I get like 10 invites a day to "bite this" or "throw a pie that" from my stupider friends who jumped into the application crap whole-heartedly.

      Despite what you say about the application section, fact is to get to the wall, the only useful thing on someone's profile, you have to scroll past an increasingly large heap of garish applications.

      It is an absolute mess, (though still more functional than Myspace, which appears to serve no useful function) and many of my friends are considering jumping ship whenever a new social networking site like the original Facebook shows up. I for one only kick around there because I organize a lot of beach parties and it is very good at doing mass party invites to a group. well, beach party season is almost over, anyways.

      Right now I and a select few friends are playing with Twitter, since we have phones with unlimited data plans. ($5/month at superstore - the best cell deal in canada) The overall Twitter concept is stupid, but all it needs is a working group implementation, and it will rapidly become the new party planner, though it is really no good for anything else.

    3. Re:Why. by ShatteredArm · · Score: 2, Informative

      I still think Facebook is very useful despite the profile clutter. So far, it's not as absurd as Myspace, what with the blinking text and ridiculous "pimped" backgrounds or whatever.

      I do like the idea of applications, but it is taken too far. I have apps like "CDs" and "Where I've Been"... You know, things that are actually reflections of who you are. The ones I hate are crap like "Super Poke", "Advanced Wall", "Graffiti", etc. The "fun" ones are stupid. I use Facebook to network, not to screw around and waste time.

    4. Re:Why. by glwtta · · Score: 1

      It's actually extremely easy to get rid of all that crap: http://userstyles.org/styles/3681

      Just add a {display: block;} for any application you actually want to see, and you are all set.

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    5. Re:Why. by prostoalex · · Score: 1

      Those little triangles by the application name are clickable. Click on it to minimize the app, and it will show up minimized on all profiles you view.

    6. Re:Why. by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Two problems with that: some people feel it necessary to install upwards of 20 apps, it's annoying to go through them all (and the interface still ends up kinda cluttered), and new pointless applications are added all the time - as far as I can see there is no way to set them to minimize by default.

      No, I'm much happier with the blanket rules (makes it feel like it's 2005 again).

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  9. Nice post about sites like Facebook or Myspace by zukinux · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's actually on my slashdot blog : How to get girls from sites like facebook, personal project
    It's based on a site basically like facebook, I'd be happy if you'll post some comments there as-well since no one reads my slashdot blog, lol!

  10. seriosly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what is with facebook ? every now and then there are quite boring stories about facebook on slashdot... why should I care.. seriously ?

    1. Re:seriosly by kiwimade · · Score: 1

      I know you're trolling, but with valuations ranging from $1 Billion to $10 Billion and ~32 million users, it is a big deal.

  11. Developer talking here by unity100 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yea, developer of the kind of those in the article. And i would guarantee that the repetition of below act would totally nullify any developer doing any crap for anything that starts with f and ends with k - we developers are a free bunch, not morons :

    This is the real dilemma facing all Facebook developers living inside the Facebook walled garden, and recently this happened when a developer showed Facebook their new marketplace application which would run inside of Facebook. Inside of two weeks Facebook had suddenly launched their own marketplace!'"
    1. Re:Developer talking here by prostoalex · · Score: 3, Informative

      Facebook Marketplace launched on May 13, while Facebook Platform launched on May 24th. The developer would've have completed two rounds of time travel to show it (for reasons unknown) to Facebook.

    2. Re:Developer talking here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing, a marketplace. I'm sure no one inside Facebook had considered it before. You my friend are a visionary.

      Two weeks from a world premier to a production level implementation. Man, those guys are good.

  12. This is why Facebook is worth $15 Billion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess now we know why Facebook is a $15 Billion corporation. Right?

    Opps... I wrote too slow. They are worth $20 Billion now.

  13. my analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I was trying to estimate the effect this FriendVOX move will have on users of Facebook and Twitter. After careful consideration I realized I'm not a retarded 12 year-old girl.

    And yes, the college level kids using Facebook are also retarded 12 year-old girls.

    If myspace is the armpit of the internet, Facebook is like the sweaty taint.

    1. Re:my analysis by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      If myspace is the armpit of the internet, Facebook is like the sweaty taint.

      And Slashdot is...?

  14. Antisocial social networks by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

    This is the first time that Facebook users can communicate with one another from directly within the Facebook application.

    This is great! Someday, maybe this tool will allow Facebook users to communicate with users on other websites. Imagine the possibilities!

    Right now, the web is fragmented into many different isolated islands. Each service requires a different registration, uses different protocols, and are generally incompatible with one another. It's difficult for UserA on Facebook to communicate with UserB on MySpace. Users on AOL Instant Messenger can't talk to users on Yahoo Instant Messenger!

    My parents don't use Facebook, AIM or any other social networking technology. Let's think of a solution for them too!

    I propose we connect all of these large websites and services, possibly using a series of interconnected networks, well defined common protocols. I think we should call it 'The Interweb'.

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    1. Re:Antisocial social networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's this fantastic thing called e-mail that handles messages for anyone! If we really want all our friends to know we're tired, or just took a dump we can CC them all. If we want to chat to them real time we've IM and IRC.

      The only thing genuinely useful about FB is being able to find your friends. The net could handle everything else already so it's just duplication with a bit of pretty 'web 2.0' crap.

      Sadly everyone forgets the unnerving privacy implication that it is all in the hands of one entity, FaceBook, and anyone that buys their way into it e.g. Microsoft! We make enough fuss that Google knows too much, and yet we're giving our intimate social structure and personal details away with ease. Talk about stupid.

    2. Re:Antisocial social networks by dmsuperman · · Score: 0

      We could use a series of connected tubes to do so. Ask Ted Stevens, or even Al Gore, the inventer or this series of tubes.

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    3. Re:Antisocial social networks by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      There's this fantastic thing called e-mail that handles messages for anyone! If we really want all our friends to know we're tired, or just took a dump we can CC them all.

      The problem with email is it's "push" rather than "pull" - I have to assume who wants to know some details of my life, and then risk annoying people who don't want my spam. These websites became popular because people could choose what you wanted to read.

      The only way to do with with email is to set up a mailing list, which takes up more effort.

      Also, one thing that Facebook does nicely is the automatic polls to see whether people are attending events - makes the whole RSVP thing a lot more automatic (and also means that other people can see, not just the organiser).

  15. So, what you're saying is... by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... i would guarantee that the repetition of below act would totally nullify any developer doing any crap for anything that starts with f and ends with k...
    You wouldn't do anything for a fuck? You're obviously not a developer, and are on the wrong website.
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  16. Meebo by Satertek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There has been a Meebo app out for ages, so I don't know where this "first time" thing is coming from.

    http://auburn.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2354779593

    1. Re:Meebo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook apps have only existed since May 2007. You have a funny definition of "ages."

  17. This Just In: FUNWALL! by rueger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ye Gawds.... Facebook apps are news worthy? Then again, maybe Slashdot also needs opportunities for me to turn Taco into a Vampire.

  18. Mosoto - Alpha Facebook IM Client by Joren · · Score: 1

    What about Mosoto, currently in alpha? At first glance, it looks rather interesting as well... interface is slick, it lets you mouse over friends to see common interests, and it is said that you can use this to stream music to your friends. It has buttons for using a webcam, too; I haven't played with Mosoto much yet but it's worth a look if we're talking about IM through Facebook. -- Joren

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  19. another IM client... by DraconPern · · Score: 1

    Great, just add it to the long list: AIM, Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger, skype, google talk, QQ, etc. Stop the madness developers!

  20. jabber/xmpp? by hitmark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why not create a jabber/xmpp based solution?

    that way any recent non-specific im client should be able to access it, and gtalk at the same time.

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    1. Re:jabber/xmpp? by stickystyle · · Score: 1

      Simple, but of course not logical.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here

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    2. Re:jabber/xmpp? by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Kinda answering your own question there, aren't you?

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    3. Re:jabber/xmpp? by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Yeah! And the best part is that you wouldn't even have to sign up for a Facebook account, and you wouldn't be targetted by Facebook advertising, and best of all Face book couldn't possibly make a single dime off of you!

      Why _wouldn't_ the owners of the Facebook business not want to do that?

    4. Re:jabber/xmpp? by hitmark · · Score: 1

      in other words, you can drive any car as long as its a ford?

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    5. Re:jabber/xmpp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, OpenIDify facebook, and make an OPenID based IM, that's be neat.

  21. Site Down... by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1

    The site's down. Is there a mirror anywhere?

  22. smellyfarts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok, i don't get it. Cluestick?

  23. at least it's not myspace by illectro · · Score: 1

    Facebook may replicate it, but they tend to be better behaved than myspace who like to block applications from their site - youtube, photobucket, revver, imeem, hoooka have all been blocked from myspace. A myspace exec even made a comment that if they'd seen youtube sooner they would have shut it down and stopped it becoming the titan they are, with imeem they don't intend to make that mistake again. (you can't eve say imeem.com without it getting edited)

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  25. MOD PARENT UP by slyborg · · Score: 1

    Good post; it's clear that every new site has to expand until it subsumes all functions of the Internet to maximize the apparent valuation to any deep pocketed and preferably extremely stupid buyer (eBay, are you listening?) In the process of trying to be all thing to all people, it then loses what made it distinctive and useful in the first place.

  26. A proper British take on Facebook by slyborg · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:A proper British take on Facebook by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

      HILARIOUS

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  27. Re:seriously by ToasterMonkey · · Score: 1

    That's the only reason? A web app fills the giant void AOL left behind. *Yawn*

    Tell me when chatrooms make a come back, ok? Oh God, that's what this integrated IM thing is going to turn into.
    Yay, it's "OKAY, EVERYBODY, ASL? =-)" all over again.

    When you're done backfilling all the things that made AOL faaaaantastic, could you get around to fixing email spam?

    Thanks, just wake me up again when web 3.0 gets here.

  28. Question to Story submitter and Accepting editor by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    Is anyone paid to publish this story or submit this story to Slashdot "news for nerds?".

    If this kind of junk makes into front page of slashdot second time in a month (check http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/23/0019224 which is there on APPLE topic with a referrer? URL), why the hell are you suggesting us to pay/subscribe to get rid of ads? I could care less about ads, there are 3 layers of disabled software which would allow me to erase them. We, subscribers pay so Slashdot wouldn't have to post this kind of PR junk to front page.

    Also, the accepting editor should know that besides whatever he hears on IRC or Web, Slashdot community aren't really lifeleless nerds who doesn't know how things work.

    First, there was a completely off topic (Apple topic? Come on) story with a referrer URL and now this story.

    If this kind of PR junk , site abuse makes to front page, lets all go elsewhere and "fix that" instead of trying to fix a broken thing.

  29. Why not a Pidgin/Purple plugin then? by colin_s_guthrie · · Score: 1

    If they are going to develop a really good IM for Facebook (which I'd quite like) then they really nned a libpurple plugin no? That way it would work with e.g. Pidgin and Adium...

  30. And LiveJournal provides a jabber server. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    And LiveJournal provides a jabber server. So what?

    It's been done before, MySpace has that MySpaceIM thing.

    I didn't see such a commotion over LJ providing Jabber or MySpace doing that MySpaceIM thing.

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    1. Re:And LiveJournal provides a jabber server. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Yup, nothing new here. I'm tagging this "makincopies"

  31. Re:seriously by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

    That's the only reason? A web app fills the giant void AOL left behind. *Yawn*

    Ok, in what way is Facebook like AOL? I can't see any connection, or reason to suspect people left AOL for Facebook.