I always wondered why didn't Google enhance the J2ME language to become undisputed app king on billion devices instead of going with their own unbranded J2ME.
Now reading such posts from supposed to be clever "developers", I wonder if Google wnt with their own "Dalvik" Java just to convince these idiots that it is not Java they will be developing for?
It is just like some Mono developers illusion that they aren't actually coding for Microsoft.NET framework.
I keep wondering why people forget about Big Blue these days. Java and Linux support are the keys to their offerings and both are said to save mainframe/big server business of them.
Eclipse is Java too. A lot of IBM applications, even client side stuff relies to Java.
Lets not forget Google Android which is a huge success is enhanced J2ME/Java, billion cell phones have J2ME built in, the "winner" high definition format, Blu-Ray has J2ME/Java.
Sorry to say the idea of Oracle wasting Java is really stupid to begin with. Perhaps Java will focus on the thing it does best is a better theory, I mean huge servers, databases, J2EE?
First of all, Apple HFS format family has been critized for using the exact same areas of disk (for B Trees, journal) eventually wearing them off. I didn't buy the claims until I noticed an external USB drive has couple of bad sectors on exact "metadata"/B-tree area. Another USB drive got wasted (actually converted to fat32) and I finally agreed to that claim. It is magnetic drive I talk about, on SSD things can really get ugly.
They could move the B-Trees and journal, actually advanced disk optimizers like iDefrag does it every time whenever it spots that they aren't close to beginning of drive but it seems they didn't even implement that basic counter measure. BTW; obvious but, nobody should "defrag" a SSD drive.
I was expecting they add such enhancements with the OS X version shipping with Macbook Air and yet, nothing happened. It is not bad as NTFS but, HFS+ has to have some workarounds for SSD.
Wonder if "We do ZFS, no it is target of patant trolls" period has something to do with it. No matter what people say, they were really serious about ZFS until Sun CEO stupidly leaked it and that company whined about their patents made them totally give up the idea.
It is not phishing, it is something worse. Some Apple guy told a friend "change your password immediately" when he contacted them regarding 4-5 apps he didn't actually buy showing up on his order history.
It really sounded like some "password stolen" issue to me but I really doubt it is phishing as I know the guy, not a type who will be a phishing victim.
Note that it is a theory only, I don't have the actual data nor I am an iPhone customer.
The standards at Opera are way too high for amateurs and lots of code would be rejected for not being tight, not being CPU agnostic, not being platform agnostic, "breaks a feature which our partner needs", "not allowed within idea of Opera"...
Why don't you try to understand the idea behind Opera browser first? A tip for you: No developer who actually codes meaningful stuff for Firefox called Opera to open the source since they seem to have an idea why it is closed source.
It is a browser which has its own way to get developed and as long as it is standards compliant, adopts new standards fast, it is not your problem whether it is open or not.
"They don't have the google ad revenue that Mozilla has. "
Actually, they make the money exactly same way, every default search engine on Opera (which you can add more) makes money for Opera.
So, that is how they don't have to ask for money or display ads on browser. They also figured (a guess), more users mean more test and more compatibility and prestige for the real money making business which are devices.
There is nothing to beat Opera on devices, you can't pack Webkit and claim it is a mobile device browser. Nokia idiots did and we see the results each day, as Symbian owners. Thank God, Opera Mobile 10 kinda saved us.
There is a huge difference between Webkit/Chrome/Safari&Firefox development model and Opera. For Opera, to be able to run everywhere with minimal specs and to be customised for specific hardware needs is the number 1 important thing.
You can't compare it to Google Chrome for example, who happily ignored PowerPC Macs since its first release. Opera 10.6 does run on OS X 10.4.11/PPC and while on it, Opera 10.50+ means "Cocoa" Opera, converted from "Carbon". Just ask any developer what kind of insane task it is, not giving up on PowerPC Macs and 10.4.11 (OS X Tiger) running Macs while converting a carbon app to cocoa. That has something to do with the way browser is engineered.
You know what guaranteed Opera's future? Look around, every device/phone you see can run Opera. Not some $700 "smart" phone, I say everything with screen and something you can code on, even J2ME.
People like you also think Firefox days are numbered because Google can sell them out for Chrome. That is also some short sighted thing. Firefox can get "Bing" as sponsor or just rely on Big Blue even for code.
People hate me for saying this but, MS JVM in first incarnations was perfect. Good performance, the stuff worked, it was well integrated to OS and was using OS features.
What happened to a point that Sun sued them and won? They "extended" it putting windows only features, completely breaking compatibility. I lived that nightmare just months ago when I naively tried to make a favor to a business by upgrading to Sun Java latest. Their intranet broke and we had to hunt for unsupported (by law!) MS JVM to install it to XP. Thank God some guys still keep it on their websites (including 3 trojaned versions we had to ignore).
That is just Sun Java. There are several other examples. MS is capable of supporting standards. They are also capable of influencing them to a point that, nothing will work except on Windows. That is the part people are afraid.
On OS X, VLC is the king of all download sites. No matter what kind of a person it is, he/she automatically installs VLC after first fresh OS X install.
There has been NO reports of VLC failing under normal user (non admin) on OS X. Same goes for other mentioned apps, including Real PLayer and even games.
As there is no separate VLC source for both platforms (and Linux), it must be something with underlying OS mechanisms, even the UI or the architecture causing problems under normal user/uac.
In fact, it may have something to do with ignoring 40 year old *NIX model and trying to re-invent wheel over a _wrong_ base.
Apple Quicktime is Windows/Mac, shares a lot of same code between clients. VLC? Insanely multiplatform and multi CPU, Real Player is almost like Firefox , the pack the open source Helix Player for different target platforms. OS X/Linux Real Players are said to differ a little from the raw material while on Windows, you know the story.
For Opera, things go really interesting. Opera Core is actually a single, amazingly portable pure C. UI is tailored for different operating systems and their needs and no need to say, they can't do anything which won't eventually ship to other platforms. One of the reasons they don't bother to open the source since they would have to reject a lot.
So, will these guys have to code differently for using Windows security features like DEP/ASLR? They aren't MS, they have to ship the same source to everyone and expect anyone with a recent libs/gnu toolchain to compile fine for any modern OS/CPU (ARM/PPC/MIPS).
As Apple has the same/similar stuff built into OS X since 10.4.x days and actually automatically enabled it without any apparent problems, I really wonder if you take advantage of these features on OS X without doing any platform tricks? Lets say, if they found a neat way to do it?
You probably know but, for people not using actual OS X or never used NeXT OS, the extension of application on OS X is ".app", of course it has nothing to do with the.exe format, it is a self contained directory "acting like" single application file.
WindowMaker (GNUStep) dock applets are called.app too
More interestingly, Symbian calls them ".app" (e.g. Opera.app) internally too. J2ME applications? Called.fakeapp:) If I was a J2ME developer to target Symbian devices, that would really make me think twice.
As Apple didn't want to bother with "OS X deleted my NTFS drive" people, they support NTFS as read only by default. "NTFS-3G" and other utilities can of course read/write but it doesn't change the true reason for NTFS being unreliable to support: It is _not_ documented.
HFS+ on the other hand is completely documented. Apple wins on this case because of openness and the fact that, their true discipline in making things backwards/forwards compatible with complete documentation.
Nobody had to/has to reverse engineer anything, the source code of HFS+ is right at opensource.apple.com
I heard it is almost a standard procedure to use iPods in X-Ray community for the x-ray format images and that is why there are several OS X Utilities supporting it.
I guess the first reason was the gigantic (for that time) storage size of the iPod and you can also use it for music.
Most of files they produce involves an actual patient, sometimes in critical condition stay in something like a grave for hour sometimes.
If one of issues with filesystem, that archaic junk which should have never been released happens, it will be nightmare to restore the data while it is easy on HFS+ Journaled or even NTFS.
I own a Symbian phone and trust me on that, if there was a $50 utility just to get rid of FAT32(!) junk risking my data on memory card, I would happily buy it.
OS X UFS has a very unfortunate limit as it doesn't support files over 4 GB. Or, there was no chance, I would format everything (especially USB) as UFS.
Lack of commercial quality disk tools like Disk Warrior if a true catastrophe happens is a problem too. Of course, fsck can do good things but after a true catastrophic filesystem issue, diskwarrior is a must. That was one of the things Professional Mac community had hard time explaining ZFS community.
As Apple was truly wise to completely document it down to a point you can even write a full feature defragmenter (iDefrag), HFS+ without journaling seems to be the best option. I am in video business and I have seen it deal with files way beyond 80GB without any issues. In fact, lots of OS X users who images their drives see it everyday too.
I don't know why journaling is not implemented, it is open and documented too. If a bit hassle happens, it sure deserves it since he deals with external drives which are just fit to journaling purposes.
Normally, a "0 day attack" accompanied with some black background, text like html page occuring means
1) Company doesn't take it serious and demonstrates their own case or explains why it is non issue for 99.9% (of course, add to fix list)
2) Company takes it serious (sends out an emergency hotfix which may remove functionality and not very tested but, it works until real thing ships)
As Adobe took it serious but didn't ship a God damn ".bat" file (yes, ms-dos.bat is enough) to remove the component which isn't actually used you got confused.
It is indeed a 0 day but, Adobe isn't a sane company anymore.
This time, whatever these idiots did, the jump from 9.3.0 to 9.3.3 doesn't work at all. It may have something to do with the idiotic "repair adobe pdf viewer" plugin dialogue, which has no title and opens at background, unclickable.
Idiots (hopefully they read) still install Adobe Updater to Utilities but they were lazy to feed it with data so, the dedicated (and working) Updater doesn't work too. Of course, it is still added to launchd per user schedule.
Man how worse you can get? I mean, I am not like those "Use Preview" guys, I actually hate that Quartz shell and I am in process of uninstalling all traces of Acrobat on my entire network for the first time since 1994. You should be glad you run Intel Mac, I actually have 10.4.11 and "Classic" emulating capability. Just yesterday, I launched the Classic/Adobe Reader (5) and was ashamed on behalf of them. That was some real cool, quality software on Mac it seems.
A user uninstalling and giving up Adobe Reader for the first time since 1994, I hope they will lay off Apple/Mac developer team first while going down.
Thank God Apple has some kind of X11 and I actually plan to use kpdf or even xpdf on this Mac Mini which has special needs (connected to 720P).
IMHO they should pray Steve Jobs doesn't have Adobe Reader on his system.
There is a very good reason he posts as AC (I bet MSCE) and another good reason that Slashdot doesn't even bother alerting about AC replies.
Just tell one sentence to them: Internet was built on UNIX.
I admit you can go really advanced with Windows based servers but it doesn't change that Windows is also responsible for letting such low IQ idiots into serving business.
If these guys are _that_ pathetic, better switch the bank rather than using something like user agent hacks.
I mean, what if they manage to code really messy, enough to say "we don't support them" (they just did) which will do some real World money harm to you?
If I heard something like that from my bank, I would carefully RTFA, check again with a support request and if they really mean it, I would transfer everything to another bank which has a sane management. I really mean it. It is a BANK, not some junk web 2.0 thing. It is your own money involved and there are very serious consequences if they mess up which isn't really fast to recover.
I don't know about the "health" of the banks mentioned, all I know is they are huge but as we have seen in couple of years, being "huge" doesn't change a thing if you are doing bad. The bigger you are, media/govt/stats tries to hide your bad situation.
I wouldn't want to alert anyone but, if a bank in 2010 can't support pretty standard (and easy) to support browsers like Google giant's Chrome or Opera, the hidden mobile giant browser... I would be really worried about their resources and what kind of management they have.
For example, if my bank didn't let me in with Opera (or Mobile) tomorrow, I would switch the bank for above reasons, not the browser I (can) use. There is "can" factor too. This is not IE 6 situation here, I don't tell your site has to pass w3c validator either. If you don't code your site like 6 year old, both Chrome and Opera can function very well even with Quirks mode. It is not like Amaya we use here.
I think people are amazed at how brain dead they are and what a big lie "bandwidth cap" is. If they really required bandwidth caps, not just keeping the mirrors up (even 10 users matter), they would also cache OSX/Windows updates with squid.
So, they are either stupid or malicious or even both.
While on it, they are a Windows based ISP. I really wonder what will their "windows server 2008" upgrade cost will be after this action?
Latest movie or Linus/RMS? Which would you choose? *g*
Besides jokes, I always, blindly stayed away from ISPs using "Windows Server" since it tells a lot about the quality of staff and management. Of course I understand it is not always possible.
Lets say Nokia makes sales records with this "Maemo" thing, would anyone bother? I mean will it change that idiot device manufacturer/game programmer mind?
iPhone minus SJobs/App Store gives you NeXT/BSD with frameworks comparable to GNUStep. Guys who didn't give a sh*t to OS X/Mac which exists for long time bought Macs to run XCode, live all that torture at app store hell and code pretty advanced stuff. What happens on Mac Desktop? I can tell as a Desktop user: Nothing. Games/desktop apps don't magically appear and in fact, mac game market is even shrinking even with the Intel switch ending the endian/sse/altivec madness.
What I mean is, the Windows platform dominance doesn't change, the respect to the "real OS" doesn't go higher, products doesn't jump from mobile to desktop, companies doesn't say "so, lets support this neat OS".
If anyone thinks this will somehow increase Linux support, my bet is Maemo will work flawlessly with Windows Desktop _first_. It will be the reality until Nokia (and partners) get rid of the idiots who has World's least problematic and truly multiplatform SDK (Qt) in hand and still manages to ship Windows only apps _coded in Qt_.
Ovi Store just demands an actual person (verifiable) to pay some small amount of mone to publish their stuff, it is not controlled by anyone except some generic security checks.
The key here is "Symbian Signed", I am sure they will (have to) implement it on Maemo too. Or a very funny and joke like thing like actual app store with their string checking interns may happen.
I think the real deal (talk/sms/emergency call/ring) will run in its own process and/or even CPU and somehow will be untouchable.
I really don't think they will let someone "ATDT (some island)" in any form, with root access or not. We speak about millions of devices here.
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I always wondered why didn't Google enhance the J2ME language to become undisputed app king on billion devices instead of going with their own unbranded J2ME.
Now reading such posts from supposed to be clever "developers", I wonder if Google wnt with their own "Dalvik" Java just to convince these idiots that it is not Java they will be developing for?
It is just like some Mono developers illusion that they aren't actually coding for Microsoft .NET framework.
If you ask the J2ME developers and game vendors, J2ME is doing pretty fine on billon devices.
Seen the numbers released by Opera Asa every month? Now add "Gameloft", "EA Games" to it. That is your "dead" language.
It will eventually merge with "real" Java and that time, it will be "dead".
I keep wondering why people forget about Big Blue these days. Java and Linux support are the keys to their offerings and both are said to save mainframe/big server business of them.
Eclipse is Java too. A lot of IBM applications, even client side stuff relies to Java.
Lets not forget Google Android which is a huge success is enhanced J2ME/Java, billion cell phones have J2ME built in, the "winner" high definition format, Blu-Ray has J2ME/Java.
Sorry to say the idea of Oracle wasting Java is really stupid to begin with. Perhaps Java will focus on the thing it does best is a better theory, I mean huge servers, databases, J2EE?
First of all, Apple HFS format family has been critized for using the exact same areas of disk (for B Trees, journal) eventually wearing them off. I didn't buy the claims until I noticed an external USB drive has couple of bad sectors on exact "metadata"/B-tree area. Another USB drive got wasted (actually converted to fat32) and I finally agreed to that claim. It is magnetic drive I talk about, on SSD things can really get ugly.
They could move the B-Trees and journal, actually advanced disk optimizers like iDefrag does it every time whenever it spots that they aren't close to beginning of drive but it seems they didn't even implement that basic counter measure. BTW; obvious but, nobody should "defrag" a SSD drive.
I was expecting they add such enhancements with the OS X version shipping with Macbook Air and yet, nothing happened. It is not bad as NTFS but, HFS+ has to have some workarounds for SSD.
Wonder if "We do ZFS, no it is target of patant trolls" period has something to do with it. No matter what people say, they were really serious about ZFS until Sun CEO stupidly leaked it and that company whined about their patents made them totally give up the idea.
Perhaps, something like UFS+ in future?
It is not phishing, it is something worse. Some Apple guy told a friend "change your password immediately" when he contacted them regarding 4-5 apps he didn't actually buy showing up on his order history.
It really sounded like some "password stolen" issue to me but I really doubt it is phishing as I know the guy, not a type who will be a phishing victim.
Note that it is a theory only, I don't have the actual data nor I am an iPhone customer.
The standards at Opera are way too high for amateurs and lots of code would be rejected for not being tight, not being CPU agnostic, not being platform agnostic, "breaks a feature which our partner needs", "not allowed within idea of Opera"...
Why don't you try to understand the idea behind Opera browser first? A tip for you: No developer who actually codes meaningful stuff for Firefox called Opera to open the source since they seem to have an idea why it is closed source.
It is a browser which has its own way to get developed and as long as it is standards compliant, adopts new standards fast, it is not your problem whether it is open or not.
"They don't have the google ad revenue that Mozilla has. "
Actually, they make the money exactly same way, every default search engine on Opera (which you can add more) makes money for Opera.
So, that is how they don't have to ask for money or display ads on browser. They also figured (a guess), more users mean more test and more compatibility and prestige for the real money making business which are devices.
There is nothing to beat Opera on devices, you can't pack Webkit and claim it is a mobile device browser. Nokia idiots did and we see the results each day, as Symbian owners. Thank God, Opera Mobile 10 kinda saved us.
There is a huge difference between Webkit/Chrome/Safari&Firefox development model and Opera. For Opera, to be able to run everywhere with minimal specs and to be customised for specific hardware needs is the number 1 important thing.
You can't compare it to Google Chrome for example, who happily ignored PowerPC Macs since its first release. Opera 10.6 does run on OS X 10.4.11/PPC and while on it, Opera 10.50+ means "Cocoa" Opera, converted from "Carbon". Just ask any developer what kind of insane task it is, not giving up on PowerPC Macs and 10.4.11 (OS X Tiger) running Macs while converting a carbon app to cocoa. That has something to do with the way browser is engineered.
You know what guaranteed Opera's future? Look around, every device/phone you see can run Opera. Not some $700 "smart" phone, I say everything with screen and something you can code on, even J2ME.
People like you also think Firefox days are numbered because Google can sell them out for Chrome. That is also some short sighted thing. Firefox can get "Bing" as sponsor or just rely on Big Blue even for code.
People hate me for saying this but, MS JVM in first incarnations was perfect. Good performance, the stuff worked, it was well integrated to OS and was using OS features.
What happened to a point that Sun sued them and won? They "extended" it putting windows only features, completely breaking compatibility. I lived that nightmare just months ago when I naively tried to make a favor to a business by upgrading to Sun Java latest. Their intranet broke and we had to hunt for unsupported (by law!) MS JVM to install it to XP. Thank God some guys still keep it on their websites (including 3 trojaned versions we had to ignore).
That is just Sun Java. There are several other examples. MS is capable of supporting standards. They are also capable of influencing them to a point that, nothing will work except on Windows. That is the part people are afraid.
On OS X, VLC is the king of all download sites. No matter what kind of a person it is, he/she automatically installs VLC after first fresh OS X install.
There has been NO reports of VLC failing under normal user (non admin) on OS X. Same goes for other mentioned apps, including Real PLayer and even games.
As there is no separate VLC source for both platforms (and Linux), it must be something with underlying OS mechanisms, even the UI or the architecture causing problems under normal user/uac.
In fact, it may have something to do with ignoring 40 year old *NIX model and trying to re-invent wheel over a _wrong_ base.
Apple Quicktime is Windows/Mac, shares a lot of same code between clients. VLC? Insanely multiplatform and multi CPU, Real Player is almost like Firefox , the pack the open source Helix Player for different target platforms. OS X/Linux Real Players are said to differ a little from the raw material while on Windows, you know the story.
For Opera, things go really interesting. Opera Core is actually a single, amazingly portable pure C. UI is tailored for different operating systems and their needs and no need to say, they can't do anything which won't eventually ship to other platforms. One of the reasons they don't bother to open the source since they would have to reject a lot.
So, will these guys have to code differently for using Windows security features like DEP/ASLR? They aren't MS, they have to ship the same source to everyone and expect anyone with a recent libs/gnu toolchain to compile fine for any modern OS/CPU (ARM/PPC/MIPS).
As Apple has the same/similar stuff built into OS X since 10.4.x days and actually automatically enabled it without any apparent problems, I really wonder if you take advantage of these features on OS X without doing any platform tricks? Lets say, if they found a neat way to do it?
You probably know but, for people not using actual OS X or never used NeXT OS, the extension of application on OS X is ".app", of course it has nothing to do with the .exe format, it is a self contained directory "acting like" single application file.
WindowMaker (GNUStep) dock applets are called .app too
More interestingly, Symbian calls them ".app" (e.g. Opera.app) internally too. J2ME applications? Called .fakeapp :) If I was a J2ME developer to target Symbian devices, that would really make me think twice.
It all depends to a single phone call or support request regarding a critical issue. You may even end up giving private/semi private info.
Yes, the call centers in India. Wonder why companies panic when Satyam had issues?
As Apple didn't want to bother with "OS X deleted my NTFS drive" people, they support NTFS as read only by default. "NTFS-3G" and other utilities can of course read/write but it doesn't change the true reason for NTFS being unreliable to support: It is _not_ documented.
HFS+ on the other hand is completely documented. Apple wins on this case because of openness and the fact that, their true discipline in making things backwards/forwards compatible with complete documentation.
Nobody had to/has to reverse engineer anything, the source code of HFS+ is right at opensource.apple.com
I heard it is almost a standard procedure to use iPods in X-Ray community for the x-ray format images and that is why there are several OS X Utilities supporting it.
I guess the first reason was the gigantic (for that time) storage size of the iPod and you can also use it for music.
Most of files they produce involves an actual patient, sometimes in critical condition stay in something like a grave for hour sometimes.
If one of issues with filesystem, that archaic junk which should have never been released happens, it will be nightmare to restore the data while it is easy on HFS+ Journaled or even NTFS.
I own a Symbian phone and trust me on that, if there was a $50 utility just to get rid of FAT32(!) junk risking my data on memory card, I would happily buy it.
OS X UFS has a very unfortunate limit as it doesn't support files over 4 GB. Or, there was no chance, I would format everything (especially USB) as UFS.
Lack of commercial quality disk tools like Disk Warrior if a true catastrophe happens is a problem too. Of course, fsck can do good things but after a true catastrophic filesystem issue, diskwarrior is a must. That was one of the things Professional Mac community had hard time explaining ZFS community.
As Apple was truly wise to completely document it down to a point you can even write a full feature defragmenter (iDefrag), HFS+ without journaling seems to be the best option. I am in video business and I have seen it deal with files way beyond 80GB without any issues. In fact, lots of OS X users who images their drives see it everyday too.
I don't know why journaling is not implemented, it is open and documented too. If a bit hassle happens, it sure deserves it since he deals with external drives which are just fit to journaling purposes.
Normally, a "0 day attack" accompanied with some black background, text like html page occuring means
1) Company doesn't take it serious and demonstrates their own case or explains why it is non issue for 99.9% (of course, add to fix list)
2) Company takes it serious (sends out an emergency hotfix which may remove functionality and not very tested but, it works until real thing ships)
As Adobe took it serious but didn't ship a God damn ".bat" file (yes, ms-dos .bat is enough) to remove the component which isn't actually used you got confused.
It is indeed a 0 day but, Adobe isn't a sane company anymore.
This time, whatever these idiots did, the jump from 9.3.0 to 9.3.3 doesn't work at all. It may have something to do with the idiotic "repair adobe pdf viewer" plugin dialogue, which has no title and opens at background, unclickable.
Idiots (hopefully they read) still install Adobe Updater to Utilities but they were lazy to feed it with data so, the dedicated (and working) Updater doesn't work too. Of course, it is still added to launchd per user schedule.
Man how worse you can get? I mean, I am not like those "Use Preview" guys, I actually hate that Quartz shell and I am in process of uninstalling all traces of Acrobat on my entire network for the first time since 1994. You should be glad you run Intel Mac, I actually have 10.4.11 and "Classic" emulating capability. Just yesterday, I launched the Classic/Adobe Reader (5) and was ashamed on behalf of them. That was some real cool, quality software on Mac it seems.
A user uninstalling and giving up Adobe Reader for the first time since 1994, I hope they will lay off Apple/Mac developer team first while going down.
Thank God Apple has some kind of X11 and I actually plan to use kpdf or even xpdf on this Mac Mini which has special needs (connected to 720P).
IMHO they should pray Steve Jobs doesn't have Adobe Reader on his system.
There is a very good reason he posts as AC (I bet MSCE) and another good reason that Slashdot doesn't even bother alerting about AC replies.
Just tell one sentence to them: Internet was built on UNIX.
I admit you can go really advanced with Windows based servers but it doesn't change that Windows is also responsible for letting such low IQ idiots into serving business.
We see the results every single fscking day.
If these guys are _that_ pathetic, better switch the bank rather than using something like user agent hacks.
I mean, what if they manage to code really messy, enough to say "we don't support them" (they just did) which will do some real World money harm to you?
If I heard something like that from my bank, I would carefully RTFA, check again with a support request and if they really mean it, I would transfer everything to another bank which has a sane management. I really mean it. It is a BANK, not some junk web 2.0 thing. It is your own money involved and there are very serious consequences if they mess up which isn't really fast to recover.
I don't know about the "health" of the banks mentioned, all I know is they are huge but as we have seen in couple of years, being "huge" doesn't change a thing if you are doing bad. The bigger you are, media/govt/stats tries to hide your bad situation.
I wouldn't want to alert anyone but, if a bank in 2010 can't support pretty standard (and easy) to support browsers like Google giant's Chrome or Opera, the hidden mobile giant browser... I would be really worried about their resources and what kind of management they have.
For example, if my bank didn't let me in with Opera (or Mobile) tomorrow, I would switch the bank for above reasons, not the browser I (can) use. There is "can" factor too. This is not IE 6 situation here, I don't tell your site has to pass w3c validator either. If you don't code your site like 6 year old, both Chrome and Opera can function very well even with Quirks mode. It is not like Amaya we use here.
I think people are amazed at how brain dead they are and what a big lie "bandwidth cap" is. If they really required bandwidth caps, not just keeping the mirrors up (even 10 users matter), they would also cache OSX/Windows updates with squid.
So, they are either stupid or malicious or even both.
While on it, they are a Windows based ISP. I really wonder what will their "windows server 2008" upgrade cost will be after this action?
Could this be related too? Perhaps they will get a cheap upgrade to Windows Server they use?
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Latest movie or Linus/RMS? Which would you choose? *g*
Besides jokes, I always, blindly stayed away from ISPs using "Windows Server" since it tells a lot about the quality of staff and management. Of course I understand it is not always possible.
Lets say Nokia makes sales records with this "Maemo" thing, would anyone bother? I mean will it change that idiot device manufacturer/game programmer mind?
iPhone minus SJobs/App Store gives you NeXT/BSD with frameworks comparable to GNUStep. Guys who didn't give a sh*t to OS X/Mac which exists for long time bought Macs to run XCode, live all that torture at app store hell and code pretty advanced stuff. What happens on Mac Desktop? I can tell as a Desktop user: Nothing. Games/desktop apps don't magically appear and in fact, mac game market is even shrinking even with the Intel switch ending the endian/sse/altivec madness.
What I mean is, the Windows platform dominance doesn't change, the respect to the "real OS" doesn't go higher, products doesn't jump from mobile to desktop, companies doesn't say "so, lets support this neat OS".
If anyone thinks this will somehow increase Linux support, my bet is Maemo will work flawlessly with Windows Desktop _first_. It will be the reality until Nokia (and partners) get rid of the idiots who has World's least problematic and truly multiplatform SDK (Qt) in hand and still manages to ship Windows only apps _coded in Qt_.
Ovi Store just demands an actual person (verifiable) to pay some small amount of mone to publish their stuff, it is not controlled by anyone except some generic security checks.
The key here is "Symbian Signed", I am sure they will (have to) implement it on Maemo too. Or a very funny and joke like thing like actual app store with their string checking interns may happen.
I think the real deal (talk/sms/emergency call/ring) will run in its own process and/or even CPU and somehow will be untouchable.
I really don't think they will let someone "ATDT (some island)" in any form, with root access or not. We speak about millions of devices here.