Also remember right before Leopard actually postponed, the Mac rumour sites were flooded by "Leopard is not ready" rumours with hundreds of comments.
Lets not forget Engadget could look like blog but it is a very respected site for years. Every professional in industry watches that site as far as I can tell. There are some people saying "random blog", no it is not a random blog. It is the site which has exclusive insider information.
Of course I take the measures here to prevent spam, I just additionally report spam using spamcop.net and install some honeypots to sites I manage using project honeypot.
I think I found the magic formula to prevent stock spam. I use Sorbs RBL to vanish (tested for 1 year before vanishing), Spamcop RBL to move to Junk and Aspam's "isspam@domain" scheme added as third party default "reporting" (CC: of spam in fact) address. Result: 1 spams passes a week to inbox.
Sorbs is really effective since stock spam comes from zombies (open proxy) 99% of time.
Right after the OCR talk started to lead them (antispam people) in some common/working solutions, Spammers begun to use anti-OCR systems. I made a friend working at a big newspaper to test the anti OCR measures via some very expensive professional OCR software, he said it failed to read anything meaningful.
That was the day OCR as antispam became real irrelevant for me. They also figured resolution filters are coming, they immediately started to randomise gif resolutions by 1-5 pixels. There goes that method too.
About the images? I bet there are millions of "fw:fw:fw:look, funny!!!!!" messages around just having a single image. Yes, even at flickr/imageshack ages. They now drag Flickr images to mail window and send it like that.
For some people, they are "messages from their friends" and they will go nuts if they figure out that actual junk was filtered as spam. Of course, lets not go too harsh, there could be people trading family photos like that and that 12 kb jpeg becomes really precious.
I suggest the long term but real solutions: http://www.spamcop.net/ (for mail) and http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ (for web/blogs) . I even started to CC: my Microsoft Pirated software spam to piracy@Microsoft, let the evil care about evil.
It is a very bad thing. The people Microsoft could hardly manage to enable auto updates via several nag tactics will disable their setting now. All the framework, digital signatures means nothing.
I really hope MS fires who is responsible for that glitch.I enabled auto updates on every single non technical users Windows machine I know. Now they will get latest and greatest spyware even with auto resume options and... version checking!
GTK apps loves to use Metal but QT apps try to look native as much as they can. It is complete end user observation btw.
There are some versions of GIMP which is packaged as.app for OS X , even if you launch them, in Apple X11, they still come with that usual metal gimp theme.
I think it is more like a decision rather than anything else. I don't think people who are advanced enough to code some professional graphics application/suite and entire framework doesn't know where Apple or anything else stores their "widgets".
About "pure cocoa": That term is more like OS X native working such as drag and drop function besides some NexT disgruntled nerd developers who hates anything backward compatible in their precious OS. I gave up sending feedback trying to explain them what would happen if Apple didn't give a heck about backwards compatibility. As far as I know, no serious developer forces himself/herself to use Cocoa or Carbon, they use whatever fits to their needs sometimes mixing both.
Metal theme is really needless argument creating thing, see even Apple gets bad reviews from their fanatics just because of metal. Now imagine already expecting something bad (free/open source and X11) Mac only guy says "lets launch and see" and he sees the famous GTK Metal. Not a nice impression I think. It also makes the application travel to trash before getting anything productive such as feedback.
Therotically you can buy/install FreeBSD and install it to latest Xserve. Same goes for Linux distros. The people buying Xserve doesn't as far as I have seen. Why? Well, they must be preferring OS X Tiger Server edition over other free choices. Just like IBM Mainframe guys preferring AIX/z-OS over much cheaper (not if you listen to IBM) Linux solution.
I have a friend who happens to spend lots of money for comfort and he bought Xserve Raid as a media server/server for his home. Not big deal if you don't know that guy was struggling with Windows Spyware because of being newbie computer user just 2 years ago. Yes, Apple managed to make a FreeBSD/Mach based server operating system and sell to that kind of guy because of user friendliness.
I don't really think Linux is a threat or ever been a threat to Xserve at all.
I try to be very objective on/. but I can't after remembering the horrible quad g5 fan noise when I dared to install Ubuntu, claimed to be the most end user friendly distro. It didn't also work with my Apple Turkish F keyboard and most important thing of all, I have seen a 64bit RISC multicore processor which supports up to 16 GB rejected to get officially supported by Ubuntu guys because it is old fashioned. The OS these guys build their distro on has MIPS CPU specific stuff in their kernel! It is their own choice but I can't stand to get bad words about my system from a OS vendor. They could make it straight: "We are a popular, mainstream distro and we don'T have anything to do with anything else than Pentium/AMD"
Would I dare to install Linux anytime? No unless a miracle happens and Volkerding releases PPC version of Slackware.
Linux is no friend of Apple since I will be one of the guys pre ordering OS X Leopard and enjoy hand crafted/optimised code even on my G4 Mini.
ps: I have of course reported the horrible experience to Ubuntu, whether they care or not.
They provide the heart and most unique system of Tiger open source without any limit. If Linux/BSD guys don't use it, it is their choice but Apple isn't to blame here.
After I see launchd is not implemented in many popular, sometimes mimicking OS X distros, I have changed my mind and I don't buy "Apple is not giving anything back to community" stuff.
Apple mixes open source and propetioary in a unique way. OS X could be the geekiest OS ever you used or the most user friendly one. It is all based on your choice. I don't think Apple ever targeted Linux.
Apple targets their copier, Microsoft. They target them too bad after Intel switch. There are people who says "Oh OK" and launches Internet Explorer/Windows Media Player in Parallels Desktop, natively under their OS X when MS Exclusive contract website tells them "Not using Windows, Go away".
It breaks the entire idea/business model of Microsoft. Wonder why they give away a commercial 3rd party quicktime based wmedia solution for free? Just another sign of panic. Imagine Apple decides to make total revolution and open their entire source code including anything you can imagine. These are guys gave up PowerPC (G4 in fact) in 1 day, can't be surprised.
Sun CEO in fact warns Microsoft not to dare messing with their own potential customers in his latest blog. In business sense, in includes large Linux using companies too. One day, a miracle would happen and they may decide to switch to Windows. If you make them call their lawyers at Weekend, they won't likely do it ever.
Generally on programs you can "create new file/document" (creativity) and edit yourself, they don't quit after last window closed.
Utilities, such as Disk Utility are generally used once, do its job and user expects to quit when work is ended Quits after last window closed. On TextEdit.app you may want to create a new document instantly without having to launch it so it doesn't quit after last Window closed.
Same for Mail.app, you expect it to keep running and checking for mail so when you close its Application Window, it keeps running and checking for mail. You may also want to create a new message anytime.
I think both OS X and Windows guys tell GTK based applications should already use Native OS looking themes by default instead of that Metal thing.
Metal causes serious allergy on some people:) There are even people paying for OS X theme applications or plain hacking their resources to get rid of Metal look.
To describe how much flame/bad feedback they get, I must tell Java developers actually coded a java extension just to get rid of Java look on OS X making it use native widgets. I always forget its name, sorry.
Unless you don't charge and use it in evil manners, I doubt Apple will care about patents they own. It is about the will of people using something.
I know by experience. How many Aqua-like themes on GPL/BSD Window Managers/Browsers out there? They just told not to use "Aqua" word as far as I remember.
Now try this, ship a spyware which you also charge money which claims to show OS X themed Windows. Count days if not hours you will get a letter from Apple lawyers.
There is something wrong in Apple community, everyone thinks all can afford or pay for (I won't) 30 inch or anything more than 19" working perfectly CRT.
Same thing happened when Apple removed Fax option from first Intel laptops. There were people who even claimed "Fax is passe'" making actual business people nuts. Glad Apple listened to business people and put it back on later models.
One thing about Apple, they really know when and how to/ignore the vocal minority when making decisions like that. Safari is a nice example.
What if I don't trust a very active, imperial country government with my private mails even if they are spam?
I better keep reporting French spammers via Spamcop, they make into SCBL for anyone opting in and live with peace of mind. At one point they will really have to login to that "american" system since planet will start blocking their country blocks if this complete lack of management continues.
See what happened with South Korea. They weren't caring about spam reports and after they figured their industrial giants mails are bouncing from ordinary users mailboxes. Now they have setup a security organisation and opted in to receive entire country block reports to that organisation mail.
Spamcop is originally and still a abuse report system. Spamcop BL is completely optional. I am a paying spamcop user and I still put SCBL flagged messages to Junk folder for review instead of vanishing them like open proxies.
They could login to spamcop ISP account and see the mess their users create 24/7, mail the users ISP account a warning saying they should virus clean their system.
The data is THERE, on a time tested, reliable and secure reporting system. For FREE. Also if they are obsessed with big corporate names, Spamcop now indirectly belongs to Cisco systems since their parent (Ironport) was purchased by them.
Remember the issue with Spamcop is newbie admins enabling both Spamcop RBL and bounce on their mail servers while Spamcop warns them that it is an experimental feature. Spamcop mail reporting service is a really underrated gem of Internet. Think about non techie end users.
Poor Spamcop tries to send abuse reports to some very popular French ISPs for years and they get either filtered or bounced. Now they "invent" spamcop service again.
BTW a suggestion: While posting to public, prefer spamcop.net instead of spamcop. You know, those thieves at spamcop.com
I think this is all about server stuff which Microsoft already lost. Look to Netcraft.
MS tries to take revenge and help their open source (!) buddy Novell to explain their stupid siding with them. Patent agreement, Mono developer hiring, Silverlight porting are all parts of story.
What Linux needs now is a evil company, will be evil, will try to dominate the planet but won't touch the Linux project.
Remember just messing a bit with Real Networks has cost Microsoft $500M. That kind of evil company needed. See if they can say a word about IBM AIX for example:)
At extreme levels IBM can totally open source AIX, make free version and offer it for free for download. I'd love to see Domino added:)
Imagine business people. You get a free server operating system which runs the enterprise and you have IBM Brand/Giant if you need old fashioned support. That would mark complete failure of MS server business.
They already have unresolved fight from OS/2 days you know.
Even more interesting: Will Icaza's employer, Novell will say a word about this except some generic "MS , you are evil" type of populist stuff going nowhere?
I bet no. You know why? Now for average business guy, Novell's SUSE is more risk free Linux since he heard some blurbs about Novell/MS agreement.
Icaza reference? Well, he is the guy created Mono, a.NET port (outdated or not) and last time he was generously defending Silverlight porting on Slashdot. What a coincidence that he works for Novell now.
Hehehehehe... Is it the same J2ME that exists in three basic versions (MIDP1, MIDP1FP1, and MIDP2) and a myriad of vendor specific flavors? Is it the same J2ME where you have to modify your.JAR application for each phone, depending on its screen size and feature set?:) Or are you talking about some idealized J2ME, akin to a spherical horse in vacuum? Professionally written applications like Opera Mini doesn't have such needs. 2 versions, basic or advanced. So it can be done even on such advanced application if you know how to code.
Amateurs managed to confuse end users because they were lazy enough to fetch the phones profile from its wap browser and direct to related jar file. Opera can do it,why they couldn't? They didn't. Basic as that.
The article mentions even more basic java (like Java lite) optimised for end user+web 2/3 feature needs which can be coded by anyone who understands the concept. No pro needed.
Ever run a single J2ME application? There is nothing like that. Even on Desktop, apps look for a major version and they work. There is even Java Webstart which doesn't exist in any other language, a single click install/run and secure same time.
For J2ME? You just send.jar as a message to phone. Nothing else. It asks if you really want to install it, bitches about certificate at worst scenario. What if you got impossible to run.jar file? It says "can't execute, exception" and continues its life.
Now things are even better, Sony Ericsson phones having "Walkman" thing can auto update their own firmware including Java subsystem. Automatically.
I just installed Putty (Ssh) to Series 80 Symbian before I read this article via drag and drop using OS X Finder. As far as I see, my GSM network is still up and running:)
How can you consider a phone with a fully-functional web browser in an era where people can write fully-fuctional web applications a "totally closed platform." Write a web app. Browse to said web app. Presto. I might agree with "more or less closed platform", but "totally" is FUD. You are commenting like Safari is some state of the art webservice optimised browser. It is not. I am posting this comment using it and my licensed browser is based on its core engine, I am not a Safari hater, I just say it is sadly behind in web services.
Anything serious requires Firefox or Camino. Just go to Google Docs for example. There is Thinkfree.com which allows Safari thanks to Java/Ajax mixed nature of it. Java won't be included in iPhone because it will cause argameddon (!).
A fully functional mobile browser which people even pay for it is: Opera. Heard anything about iPhone from them recently? If they dare to speak about possibility of porting Opera to iPhone Steve Jobs will claim that poor thing can bring down entire west coast because of 404 error.:)
What if you need to call 911, and some strange app crashes your phone? I think that's at least part of the reason Apple has closed off the iPhone.
Now, picture a Java phone. You are in trouble and need to call 911. Man, it's so slow from that bloated framework that the buttons respond 1 second after I press them. Then- *crash!* There are 2 BILLION phones having sort of Java and the Java apps in phones are very strictly watched by the device itself. There hasn't been a single java related system freeze on phones since they are coded exactly that way, considering the emergency device nature of the platform.
Java applications never run at background or the system itself could never get effected by Java. Java runs on a seperate subsystem. All phones you see are regulated by very very strict organisations before they hit the market.
Here are some stats for Java:
over 800 million PCs over 1.5 billion mobile phones and other handheld devices (source: Ovum) 2.2 billion smart cards plus set-top boxes, printers, web cams, games, car navigation systems, lottery terminals, medical devices, parking payment stations, etc.
If you like iPhone, buy it. I personally won't because my bank requires J2ME for password generation. Just don't excuse for Steve Jobs.
As owner of 3 Macs, let me tell you something: Apple HATES Java, always hated and that is why we are stuck on Java 5 while the people using platform which tried to kill Java are enjoying Java 6 final release.
If you put Java to a device, you lose control of end user. That is why. Nobody dieing, nobody falling from roof, no device exploding, no network downing because of J2ME, a platform which is used on 1.5 billion devices.
You know iTunes interface? It will have "Apple iPhone Software" tab, that is why Apple doesn't put Java in it.
I am speaking about the commercial ($$$) downfall,which the labels really care about. If you count/care numbers (suits do), Black album is one of most successful albums.
When Metallica managed to make their fans go nuts enough to rip their own CDs and share on Napster (yes, happened!), they started the downfall. Numbers I mean.
Normally, selling 52 million doesn't really mean anything to me, I buy CDs nobody heard about and listen to radio for mainstream stuff but it matters to record labels very much.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh wait, they said they aren't evil.
Also remember right before Leopard actually postponed, the Mac rumour sites were flooded by "Leopard is not ready" rumours with hundreds of comments.
Lets not forget Engadget could look like blog but it is a very respected site for years. Every professional in industry watches that site as far as I can tell. There are some people saying "random blog", no it is not a random blog. It is the site which has exclusive insider information.
Of course I take the measures here to prevent spam, I just additionally report spam using spamcop.net and install some honeypots to sites I manage using project honeypot.
I think I found the magic formula to prevent stock spam. I use Sorbs RBL to vanish (tested for 1 year before vanishing), Spamcop RBL to move to Junk and Aspam's "isspam@domain" scheme added as third party default "reporting" (CC: of spam in fact) address. Result: 1 spams passes a week to inbox.
Sorbs is really effective since stock spam comes from zombies (open proxy) 99% of time.
Right after the OCR talk started to lead them (antispam people) in some common/working solutions, Spammers begun to use anti-OCR systems. I made a friend working at a big newspaper to test the anti OCR measures via some very expensive professional OCR software, he said it failed to read anything meaningful.
That was the day OCR as antispam became real irrelevant for me. They also figured resolution filters are coming, they immediately started to randomise gif resolutions by 1-5 pixels. There goes that method too.
About the images? I bet there are millions of "fw:fw:fw:look, funny!!!!!" messages around just having a single image. Yes, even at flickr/imageshack ages. They now drag Flickr images to mail window and send it like that.
For some people, they are "messages from their friends" and they will go nuts if they figure out that actual junk was filtered as spam. Of course, lets not go too harsh, there could be people trading family photos like that and that 12 kb jpeg becomes really precious.
I suggest the long term but real solutions: http://www.spamcop.net/ (for mail) and http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ (for web/blogs) . I even started to CC: my Microsoft Pirated software spam to piracy@Microsoft, let the evil care about evil.
MSFT will sue the spyware authors for breaching Microsoft patented technology.
It is a very bad thing. The people Microsoft could hardly manage to enable auto updates via several nag tactics will disable their setting now. All the framework, digital signatures means nothing.
I really hope MS fires who is responsible for that glitch.I enabled auto updates on every single non technical users Windows machine I know. Now they will get latest and greatest spyware even with auto resume options and... version checking!
GTK apps loves to use Metal but QT apps try to look native as much as they can. It is complete end user observation btw.
.app for OS X , even if you launch them, in Apple X11, they still come with that usual metal gimp theme.
There are some versions of GIMP which is packaged as
I think it is more like a decision rather than anything else. I don't think people who are advanced enough to code some professional graphics application/suite and entire framework doesn't know where Apple or anything else stores their "widgets".
About "pure cocoa": That term is more like OS X native working such as drag and drop function besides some NexT disgruntled nerd developers who hates anything backward compatible in their precious OS. I gave up sending feedback trying to explain them what would happen if Apple didn't give a heck about backwards compatibility. As far as I know, no serious developer forces himself/herself to use Cocoa or Carbon, they use whatever fits to their needs sometimes mixing both.
Metal theme is really needless argument creating thing, see even Apple gets bad reviews from their fanatics just because of metal. Now imagine already expecting something bad (free/open source and X11) Mac only guy says "lets launch and see" and he sees the famous GTK Metal. Not a nice impression I think. It also makes the application travel to trash before getting anything productive such as feedback.
Therotically you can buy/install FreeBSD and install it to latest Xserve. Same goes for Linux distros. The people buying Xserve doesn't as far as I have seen. Why? Well, they must be preferring OS X Tiger Server edition over other free choices. Just like IBM Mainframe guys preferring AIX/z-OS over much cheaper (not if you listen to IBM) Linux solution.
/. but I can't after remembering the horrible quad g5 fan noise when I dared to install Ubuntu, claimed to be the most end user friendly distro. It didn't also work with my Apple Turkish F keyboard and most important thing of all, I have seen a 64bit RISC multicore processor which supports up to 16 GB rejected to get officially supported by Ubuntu guys because it is old fashioned. The OS these guys build their distro on has MIPS CPU specific stuff in their kernel! It is their own choice but I can't stand to get bad words about my system from a OS vendor. They could make it straight: "We are a popular, mainstream distro and we don'T have anything to do with anything else than Pentium/AMD"
Look at their server, I think they should advertise it much more:
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/
I have a friend who happens to spend lots of money for comfort and he bought Xserve Raid as a media server/server for his home. Not big deal if you don't know that guy was struggling with Windows Spyware because of being newbie computer user just 2 years ago. Yes, Apple managed to make a FreeBSD/Mach based server operating system and sell to that kind of guy because of user friendliness.
I don't really think Linux is a threat or ever been a threat to Xserve at all.
I try to be very objective on
Would I dare to install Linux anytime? No unless a miracle happens and Volkerding releases PPC version of Slackware.
Linux is no friend of Apple since I will be one of the guys pre ordering OS X Leopard and enjoy hand crafted/optimised code even on my G4 Mini.
ps: I have of course reported the horrible experience to Ubuntu, whether they care or not.
I can provide a more basic link I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchd
They provide the heart and most unique system of Tiger open source without any limit. If Linux/BSD guys don't use it, it is their choice but Apple isn't to blame here.
After I see launchd is not implemented in many popular, sometimes mimicking OS X distros, I have changed my mind and I don't buy "Apple is not giving anything back to community" stuff.
Apple mixes open source and propetioary in a unique way. OS X could be the geekiest OS ever you used or the most user friendly one. It is all based on your choice. I don't think Apple ever targeted Linux.
Apple targets their copier, Microsoft. They target them too bad after Intel switch. There are people who says "Oh OK" and launches Internet Explorer/Windows Media Player in Parallels Desktop, natively under their OS X when MS Exclusive contract website tells them "Not using Windows, Go away".
It breaks the entire idea/business model of Microsoft. Wonder why they give away a commercial 3rd party quicktime based wmedia solution for free? Just another sign of panic. Imagine Apple decides to make total revolution and open their entire source code including anything you can imagine. These are guys gave up PowerPC (G4 in fact) in 1 day, can't be surprised.
Sun CEO in fact warns Microsoft not to dare messing with their own potential customers in his latest blog. In business sense, in includes large Linux using companies too. One day, a miracle would happen and they may decide to switch to Windows. If you make them call their lawyers at Weekend, they won't likely do it ever.
Generally on programs you can "create new file/document" (creativity) and edit yourself, they don't quit after last window closed.
Utilities, such as Disk Utility are generally used once, do its job and user expects to quit when work is ended Quits after last window closed. On TextEdit.app you may want to create a new document instantly without having to launch it so it doesn't quit after last Window closed.
Same for Mail.app, you expect it to keep running and checking for mail so when you close its Application Window, it keeps running and checking for mail. You may also want to create a new message anytime.
Hope I could express myself.
I think both OS X and Windows guys tell GTK based applications should already use Native OS looking themes by default instead of that Metal thing.
:) There are even people paying for OS X theme applications or plain hacking their resources to get rid of Metal look.
Metal causes serious allergy on some people
To describe how much flame/bad feedback they get, I must tell Java developers actually coded a java extension just to get rid of Java look on OS X making it use native widgets. I always forget its name, sorry.
Unless you don't charge and use it in evil manners, I doubt Apple will care about patents they own. It is about the will of people using something.
I know by experience. How many Aqua-like themes on GPL/BSD Window Managers/Browsers out there? They just told not to use "Aqua" word as far as I remember.
Now try this, ship a spyware which you also charge money which claims to show OS X themed Windows. Count days if not hours you will get a letter from Apple lawyers.
There is something wrong in Apple community, everyone thinks all can afford or pay for (I won't) 30 inch or anything more than 19" working perfectly CRT.
/ignore the vocal minority when making decisions like that. Safari is a nice example.
:)
Same thing happened when Apple removed Fax option from first Intel laptops. There were people who even claimed "Fax is passe'" making actual business people nuts. Glad Apple listened to business people and put it back on later models.
One thing about Apple, they really know when and how to
19" Samsung CRT+15" Hyundai (don't laugh) CRT here. 34"
What if I don't trust a very active, imperial country government with my private mails even if they are spam?
i ldomain?search_string=orange.fr
I better keep reporting French spammers via Spamcop, they make into SCBL for anyone opting in and live with peace of mind. At one point they will really have to login to that "american" system since planet will start blocking their country blocks if this complete lack of management continues.
See what happened with South Korea. They weren't caring about spam reports and after they figured their industrial giants mails are bouncing from ordinary users mailboxes. Now they have setup a security organisation and opted in to receive entire country block reports to that organisation mail.
Well France Telecom can start with verifying their SMTP servers DNS, see the entries at Senderbase, parent of Spamcop:
http://www.senderbase.org/senderbase_queries/deta
Gives a good clue how non managed they are.
Spamcop is originally and still a abuse report system. Spamcop BL is completely optional. I am a paying spamcop user and I still put SCBL flagged messages to Junk folder for review instead of vanishing them like open proxies.
They could login to spamcop ISP account and see the mess their users create 24/7, mail the users ISP account a warning saying they should virus clean their system.
The data is THERE, on a time tested, reliable and secure reporting system. For FREE. Also if they are obsessed with big corporate names, Spamcop now indirectly belongs to Cisco systems since their parent (Ironport) was purchased by them.
Remember the issue with Spamcop is newbie admins enabling both Spamcop RBL and bounce on their mail servers while Spamcop warns them that it is an experimental feature. Spamcop mail reporting service is a really underrated gem of Internet. Think about non techie end users.
Poor Spamcop tries to send abuse reports to some very popular French ISPs for years and they get either filtered or bounced. Now they "invent" spamcop service again.
BTW a suggestion: While posting to public, prefer spamcop.net instead of spamcop. You know, those thieves at spamcop.com
I think this is all about server stuff which Microsoft already lost. Look to Netcraft.
:)
MS tries to take revenge and help their open source (!) buddy Novell to explain their stupid siding with them. Patent agreement, Mono developer hiring, Silverlight porting are all parts of story.
What Linux needs now is a evil company, will be evil, will try to dominate the planet but won't touch the Linux project.
Remember just messing a bit with Real Networks has cost Microsoft $500M. That kind of evil company needed. See if they can say a word about IBM AIX for example
At extreme levels IBM can totally open source AIX, make free version and offer it for free for download. I'd love to see Domino added :)
Imagine business people. You get a free server operating system which runs the enterprise and you have IBM Brand/Giant if you need old fashioned support. That would mark complete failure of MS server business.
They already have unresolved fight from OS/2 days you know.
Even more interesting: Will Icaza's employer, Novell will say a word about this except some generic "MS , you are evil" type of populist stuff going nowhere?
.NET port (outdated or not) and last time he was generously defending Silverlight porting on Slashdot. What a coincidence that he works for Novell now.
I bet no. You know why? Now for average business guy, Novell's SUSE is more risk free Linux since he heard some blurbs about Novell/MS agreement.
Icaza reference? Well, he is the guy created Mono, a
It is so clear if you want to see.
Amateurs managed to confuse end users because they were lazy enough to fetch the phones profile from its wap browser and direct to related jar file. Opera can do it,why they couldn't? They didn't. Basic as that.
The article mentions even more basic java (like Java lite) optimised for end user+web 2/3 feature needs which can be coded by anyone who understands the concept. No pro needed.
Ever run a single J2ME application? There is nothing like that. Even on Desktop, apps look for a major version and they work. There is even Java Webstart which doesn't exist in any other language, a single click install/run and secure same time.
.jar as a message to phone. Nothing else. It asks if you really want to install it, bitches about certificate at worst scenario. What if you got impossible to run .jar file? It says "can't execute, exception" and continues its life.
:)
For J2ME? You just send
Now things are even better, Sony Ericsson phones having "Walkman" thing can auto update their own firmware including Java subsystem. Automatically.
I just installed Putty (Ssh) to Series 80 Symbian before I read this article via drag and drop using OS X Finder. As far as I see, my GSM network is still up and running
Anything serious requires Firefox or Camino. Just go to Google Docs for example. There is Thinkfree.com which allows Safari thanks to Java/Ajax mixed nature of it. Java won't be included in iPhone because it will cause argameddon (!).
A fully functional mobile browser which people even pay for it is: Opera. Heard anything about iPhone from them recently? If they dare to speak about possibility of porting Opera to iPhone Steve Jobs will claim that poor thing can bring down entire west coast because of 404 error.
Now, picture a Java phone. You are in trouble and need to call 911. Man, it's so slow from that bloated framework that the buttons respond 1 second after I press them. Then- *crash!* There are 2 BILLION phones having sort of Java and the Java apps in phones are very strictly watched by the device itself. There hasn't been a single java related system freeze on phones since they are coded exactly that way, considering the emergency device nature of the platform.
Java applications never run at background or the system itself could never get effected by Java. Java runs on a seperate subsystem. All phones you see are regulated by very very strict organisations before they hit the market.
Here are some stats for Java:
over 800 million PCs
over 1.5 billion mobile phones and other handheld devices (source: Ovum)
2.2 billion smart cards
plus set-top boxes, printers, web cams, games, car navigation systems, lottery terminals, medical devices, parking payment stations, etc.
If you like iPhone, buy it. I personally won't because my bank requires J2ME for password generation. Just don't excuse for Steve Jobs.
As owner of 3 Macs, let me tell you something: Apple HATES Java, always hated and that is why we are stuck on Java 5 while the people using platform which tried to kill Java are enjoying Java 6 final release.
If you put Java to a device, you lose control of end user. That is why. Nobody dieing, nobody falling from roof, no device exploding, no network downing because of J2ME, a platform which is used on 1.5 billion devices.
You know iTunes interface? It will have "Apple iPhone Software" tab, that is why Apple doesn't put Java in it.
I am speaking about the commercial ($$$) downfall,which the labels really care about. If you count/care numbers (suits do), Black album is one of most successful albums.
When Metallica managed to make their fans go nuts enough to rip their own CDs and share on Napster (yes, happened!), they started the downfall. Numbers I mean.
Normally, selling 52 million doesn't really mean anything to me, I buy CDs nobody heard about and listen to radio for mainstream stuff but it matters to record labels very much.