European carriers spent billions to enable 3G on their networks and there are many working, real life applications running thanks to 3G. Asia? They are testing 3.5G and 4G
The massive problem is money. Some network offered services as paid movies, audio is bearable thanks to 3G bandwidth speeds. People having a good flat rate contract already listens to their home hosted music (including iTunes) live on road. Of course it needs fast speed (3G), an actual application framework (Flash or Symbian etc) and an OS which ALLOWS you to install third party applications.
I just tried to compare a true OS X game to some DirectX converted one via Cider. I am not claiming they will ship.exe of course:) Cider, the gaming optimised version/SDK combo of Wine.
OS X users have to use Vista with all updates equivalent OS to run demo.
You should consider yourself lucky. That 10.4.9 Apple talks about is the.9 point release of 10.4 Tiger, the latest available OS. Imagine MS releases some IE which just doesn't demand Vista but it demands latest DirectX and.NET installed too.
I'd stick with third party browser choices on OS X. There are several options available which even Konqueror4.app will be included soon when KDE 4 ships. You will possibly get konqueror4.exe there too:)
As an ex Opera/Windows customer I did all I can to convince them to use open OS X technologies like Keychain, I bet you can even find my commentary on versiontracker.
It simply doesn't work and I know why they want to stay totally platform independent on data. Some real interesting concepts may be coming.
I can't blame them and yes, I am not using Opera here on OS X too. I am just saying Safari and Opera are really different browsers from eachother. Opera and Konqueror could be compared, Safari is total irrelevant.
I had no problem with launch times or speed/response here. I just really expect a developer to use open OS technologies whenever it is available. E.g. Firefox finally getting sort of colorsync after 8 years! It took 8 years while Apple was eager to offer them development resources to implement colorsync.
More interesting is: Opera used system keychain in 7.5 times and gave up in 8.x. Most weird thing ever.
EA announced at the WWDC that they will be porting games over to the Mac, and having simultaneous releases from here on. They will basically buy that SDK from that company who makes Wine like stuff and ship Windows games on OS X.
I am betting they will be Intel only. Well at least it will save some people from schizophrenically going back forth to windows to os x all the day.
Apple doesn't get OpenGL, OpenAL/Core Audio games, they are getting Windows games. Making EA ship anything for any non Windows platform is still a huge success and shows the respect Apple is getting recently.
What I mean is, the World Of Warcraft is a true multiplatform, OpenGL game. The EA stuff will probably be Windows.exe files tailored to run under OS X.
If Safari could replace Opera, Opera for OS X wouldn't have 228.000 downloads (Big for Mac scene) on Versiontracker. Safari and Opera target audience are completely different.
If Safari becomes hit on Windows, I will really laugh to those webmasters who designed everything for IE and Firefox only ignoring Opera community,users on all platforms since it won't probably work on Safari too:)
AAC is supported on everything except cheapo Taiwan guys having MS sponsor them (with Wmedia).
All my files on my Nokia 9300 Symbian phone are AAC even including ringtones embedded in device ROM. The other, "real" phone of mine, not anything close to smart (SE K700i) has everything in aac too. In fact thanks to AAC's better compression, I can use its 46mb flash memory for music.
"(Advanced Audio Coding) An audio compression technology that is part of the MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 standards." http://www.answers.com/aac
As long as MPEG committee builds the standards, AAC is a standard. All players can't support AAC because the companies making them can't afford or won't get the AAC license. Not because it is only an Apple standard. Zune has AAC because it is iPod competitor and MS also have money to afford that extra format.
Whole confusion comes from the container format of mpeg-4 is built on the quicktime standard I guess. Now there are people who thinks mpeg4/h264 is Apple only format while their new HD-Satellite receiver probably has it in a chip.
The propetioary standards are the ones you mentioned. WMA (if we ignore their propaganda) and ATRAC3 which Sony really missed a huge chance by not opening it.
We fix typos in the URLs you enter whenever we can. For example, if you're using OpenDNS craigslist.og will lead directly to craigslist.org.
When you try to go to a website that won't load, instead of a browser error we show you OpenDNS Guide and help you get to where you want to go.
How about not breaking shit and returning a notfound? The semi spyware/pyramid scheme/web 2.0 abuser/search engine abuser toolbar you advertise via referral on your signature could be a good starting point not to "break the shit".
I use Opendns and I help Phishtank but OpenDNS itself is only a DNS service which only interests in hostname part, not the page. Using OpenDNS may help against complete evil hosts who serves nothing but phishing but you still need phishtank extension/support for page / url based phishes.
I think that is main reason why phishtank was started by openDNS.
As phishtank verifier I think the good old days of checking status bar, viewing browser address bar are soon over if not already. I have even seen couple of cracked SSL hosts while verifying.
Let me get this straight: After years of open source software guys struggling with Verisign , self signed certificate paranoia creating alerts of Java and the horrible situation in Symbian which is just slowly getting fixed (except closed source)- Firefox developers opted in for the exact Windows scheme of doing things?
I can't blame plugin developers, a self signed certificate alert really looks more evil than unsigned code.
That Verisign/Symbian signed crap is _the_ reason why Commwarrior type of Symbian trojans which are slowly being converted to WinCE exists. People are trained/learned to ignore certificate alerts since even open source software guys couldn't sign their application with a valid signature rather than self signed , Thawte Freemail classic. If they offered free Symbian certificates to at least opensource developers, nobody would educate himself to ignore certificate alerts by OS. Now Symbian finally woke up a bit and offer it free to open source and yet they ask million dollar software houses to send their source (yes,source) to get signed.
That may happen to Sun one day too. They are still keeping their precious Java trusted certificates and even open source Java software comes with self signed certificates.
What would happen if they used the standard RC4 scheme or even text based gpgp which is in use for years?
What I am trying to say is, the current situation, if people doesn't get educated to ignore security warnings is lot better/safer than millions collectively ignoring security warnings. They should change the entire scheme of doing things, developers shouldn't teach users "If a security alert pops up, press ignore".
My bride has a MacBook. She got the notification, it downloaded what seemed like a fairly large file after prompting for a password. Don't know if it asked and she missed it, or if it rebooted after installing the patch - but either way her machine did an unexpected restart. (Not that Microsoft is not guilty of the same thing, as one of my servers installed and rebooted last week at a very inconvenient time - dang thing was set to automatic) Anyhow, it sure made her nervous. She wanders down to my lab-of-doom and tells me her mac just shut down. I asked and she said she had just done an update. Perhaps she missed the dialog asking to restart... don't know. Had not seen a CERT email about it yet. Automatic reboot is in fact generally done just because the systems updated part was in use.
This security update updates Carbon giant framework which is 99.99999% in use. In fact your bride should read screen more carefully, right after asking admin password (hope she got one setup!) and getting correct password, Apple clearly warns user that reboot will be needed. It is very standard feature of software update and installer.
Automatic update sadly (yes,for me) doesn't install updates or reboot automatically, it just downloads package and user is prompted to install. Only way you can do such thing is running softwareupdate (the command) from Terminal via -install and again via Terminal, shutdown -restart.
On the other hand, I get flamed for some reason for telling that but Apple should REALLY alert user when something could need 2 reboots to install. Especially Windows switchers lose their mind when their shiny new Mac seem like failing to update. Not buried inside some KB article, it should be at first line, "For your information this update may reboot your computer twice" right where it could be seen.
Firefox is focused on general, average user profile who still uses bookmarks and even check their history manually.
That is why they are successful at adopting the average browser user. That is what Mozilla suite (pre Firefox) missed and people like me were getting flamed/kicked/banned by community because of reminding that fact.
I think what is more interesting is Opera Speeddial feature which has been recently introduced. If they were just, a bit OS X native friendly... (I really need keychain)
Even if you don't use bookmarks, Firefox has to read and parse the bookmarks.html file when it starts up. SQLite will make that operation very very fast and consume less memory as well, so you still benefit. I hope they test the huge bookmarks file/history situation in entire coding process. Or they call for beta/alpha testers with huge bookmarks/history usage. Why? An Apple OS X hint (command in fact) has become a hit lately, the sqllite Vacuum command.
They even coded a GUI shell to issue that command (freeware)
They should start/continue with that situation in mind. There shouldn't be anything involving "speed up Firefox because of large history". It should be done automatically.
They really burned bridges by labeling our CPUs as some outdated low mhz monsters to millions of people, anyway, what has been done is done.
Speaking as a Quad G5 owner, I don't think Xserve Power6 would be viable choice since there is already AIX on that scene with some amazing IBM support. Look what they offer to PowerPC 970 (yes G5) Workstations and imagine what server owners get:
"Service Agent: The Service Agent is available at no additional charge. When installed on an IntelliStation POWER 185 workstation, the Service Agent can improve the level of maintenance service from IBM. The Service Agent Monitors and analyzes system errors, and if needed, can automatically place a service call to IBM without customer intervention Can help reduce the effect of business disruptions due to unplanned system outages and failures Performs problem analysis on a subset of hardware-related problems and, with customer authorization, can report automatically the results to IBM service"
It sounds like Apple Crash reporter but with a difference. The difference is, right after you even notice the problem, actual IBM guy comes to your workplace and fixes things if not remote fixable via service center.
PowerPC G5 is a lightened Power4 chip. Yes that multi core, 64bit RISC CPU. That could give idea about the monsters mentioned on that story.
Not saying for you of course, telling for people who thinks about buying a Desktop based on Power6. I don't think such thing could happen except if IBM decides to update their "Real" Power Workstation http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/intellistation/power /285/ and CTIA is not essentially entertainment I guess.:)
If I were you, I'd really folllow http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ and http://www.power.org/ , I suspect very interesting things on way with PS3 (!) Cell Processor. Soon or later I will have to switch YDL Linux anyway so keeping eye on stuff. I even begged for PowerPC Linux Flash from Adobe already:)
It was designed in a time while a plugin designed to do vector graphic based UIs and Apps wasn't abused as a media plugin. That is my observation of course and sorry, I might be old fashioned but I still miss the times when Realplayer plugin opened its own UDP ports, switched bandwidth based on user latency and Quicktime extends itself with new codecs.
I am not very sure about the CPU optimisation since even Photoshop Elements V 3.0 comes with its own Altivec support plugin. Yes, the cheap Photoshop and horribly outdated.
If Apple decided to focus on portable machines and low power entertaintment devices, they didn't make a mistake. Intel really looks viable choice but they shouldn't be exclusive Intel vendor, they should always leave door open for AMD. They are way close to Intel now, too much.
I was just against the horrible level of propaganda against PowerPC by the Boss himself. PowerPC G5 is a very viable/modern processor for Desktop machines/Workstations. People got confused about what Steve Jobs means while advertising Intel switch. He was pointing the future and massive switch from Desktop to Laptop by ordinary people. If we think about G4 and people rendering DVD and soon Blu-Ray on their portables, he has a point. Motorola doesn't seem to care about laptop CPUs and IBM's focus is those server/high end workstation chips. What would happen if Steve Jobs called IBM and asked for a Intel portable competing/beating portable Power chip? IBM would politely say they are focused on high end chip wars, e.g. Sun Niagara.
I am watching the Cell Linux scene and possibilities. It seems that monster could make some amazing media focused computer. PS3 is just an example, imagine a more Desktop thing rather than optimised game console.
While on it, thanks to Slashdot editor who fixed my horrible first time submission.
I have read/commented on first story and after reading this one and comments, I'd say everyone to check http://www.phishtank.com/ and enjoy that mess they are defending.
If it's the same as Starcraft, why release a new game? I was hoping I'd get a new game, not what amounts to an expansion pack with a 3D graphics engine. I played Warcraft 3 for hours and days, keeping it updated on OS X (thanks Blizzard) and would blindly buy Warcraft 4 if shipped today.
I also have Starcraft here, that amazing company even keeps it updated for Tiger OS X.
About World Of Warcraft? I didn't even spare time to download its "demo" or I don't know if it even exists.
Imagine hearing "Anti spyware company counter sues Zango for 35 BILLION dollars for their allegations" and Google gives an army of lawyers to anti spyware company.
Why not? We would be free of patent trolls, large company suers for at least a year.
You could think the current situation exactly like that. There are dozens of anti spyware busting Zango but they are choosing a GOOGLE BUNDLED software to sue. Windows Defender is a hit, much more popular than Google one since it has "Microsoft" in it. I bet it doesn't suck that much and busts Zango too. Why not choose it?
It is like historical or current imperialists not fighting eachother but making small countries fight/hate eachother for their own good.
Lets hope Google or the small company making that software doesn't think a second about "settle".
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European carriers spent billions to enable 3G on their networks and there are many working, real life applications running thanks to 3G. Asia? They are testing 3.5G and 4G
:)
This is the device iPhone will be racing with:
http://europe.nokia.com/phones/n95
The massive problem is money. Some network offered services as paid movies, audio is bearable thanks to 3G bandwidth speeds. People having a good flat rate contract already listens to their home hosted music (including iTunes) live on road. Of course it needs fast speed (3G), an actual application framework (Flash or Symbian etc) and an OS which ALLOWS you to install third party applications.
Now think why iPhone misses those specs
I just tried to compare a true OS X game to some DirectX converted one via Cider. I am not claiming they will ship .exe of course :) Cider, the gaming optimised version/SDK combo of Wine.
e x.php
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/08/03/cider/ind
If those games from EA will be Intel only, you will figure it.
OS X users have to use Vista with all updates equivalent OS to run demo.
.9 point release of 10.4 Tiger, the latest available OS. Imagine MS releases some IE which just doesn't demand Vista but it demands latest DirectX and .NET installed too.
:)
You should consider yourself lucky. That 10.4.9 Apple talks about is the
I'd stick with third party browser choices on OS X. There are several options available which even Konqueror4.app will be included soon when KDE 4 ships. You will possibly get konqueror4.exe there too
As an ex Opera/Windows customer I did all I can to convince them to use open OS X technologies like Keychain, I bet you can even find my commentary on versiontracker.
It simply doesn't work and I know why they want to stay totally platform independent on data. Some real interesting concepts may be coming.
I can't blame them and yes, I am not using Opera here on OS X too. I am just saying Safari and Opera are really different browsers from eachother. Opera and Konqueror could be compared, Safari is total irrelevant.
I had no problem with launch times or speed/response here. I just really expect a developer to use open OS technologies whenever it is available. E.g. Firefox finally getting sort of colorsync after 8 years! It took 8 years while Apple was eager to offer them development resources to implement colorsync.
More interesting is: Opera used system keychain in 7.5 times and gave up in 8.x. Most weird thing ever.
I am betting they will be Intel only. Well at least it will save some people from schizophrenically going back forth to windows to os x all the day.
Apple doesn't get OpenGL, OpenAL/Core Audio games, they are getting Windows games. Making EA ship anything for any non Windows platform is still a huge success and shows the respect Apple is getting recently.
What I mean is, the World Of Warcraft is a true multiplatform, OpenGL game. The EA stuff will probably be Windows
If Safari could replace Opera, Opera for OS X wouldn't have 228.000 downloads (Big for Mac scene) on Versiontracker. Safari and Opera target audience are completely different.
:)
If Safari becomes hit on Windows, I will really laugh to those webmasters who designed everything for IE and Firefox only ignoring Opera community,users on all platforms since it won't probably work on Safari too
The device I use in Istanbul is calculator like independent/dedicated device which they also offer a J2ME phone software lately.
http://www.vasco.com/
It seems your bank was seriously tricked by some MS puppet company.
AAC is supported on everything except cheapo Taiwan guys having MS sponsor them (with Wmedia).
All my files on my Nokia 9300 Symbian phone are AAC even including ringtones embedded in device ROM. The other, "real" phone of mine, not anything close to smart (SE K700i) has everything in aac too. In fact thanks to AAC's better compression, I can use its 46mb flash memory for music.
"(Advanced Audio Coding) An audio compression technology that is part of the MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 standards."
http://www.answers.com/aac
As long as MPEG committee builds the standards, AAC is a standard. All players can't support AAC because the companies making them can't afford or won't get the AAC license. Not because it is only an Apple standard. Zune has AAC because it is iPod competitor and MS also have money to afford that extra format.
Whole confusion comes from the container format of mpeg-4 is built on the quicktime standard I guess. Now there are people who thinks mpeg4/h264 is Apple only format while their new HD-Satellite receiver probably has it in a chip.
The propetioary standards are the ones you mentioned. WMA (if we ignore their propaganda) and ATRAC3 which Sony really missed a huge chance by not opening it.
We fix typos in the URLs you enter whenever we can. For example, if you're using OpenDNS craigslist.og will lead directly to craigslist.org.
When you try to go to a website that won't load, instead of a browser error we show you OpenDNS Guide and help you get to where you want to go.
How about not breaking shit and returning a notfound? The semi spyware/pyramid scheme/web 2.0 abuser/search engine abuser toolbar you advertise via referral on your signature could be a good starting point not to "break the shit".
I use Opendns and I help Phishtank but OpenDNS itself is only a DNS service which only interests in hostname part, not the page. Using OpenDNS may help against complete evil hosts who serves nothing but phishing but you still need phishtank extension/support for page / url based phishes.
I think that is main reason why phishtank was started by openDNS.
As phishtank verifier I think the good old days of checking status bar, viewing browser address bar are soon over if not already. I have even seen couple of cracked SSL hosts while verifying.
Let me get this straight: After years of open source software guys struggling with Verisign , self signed certificate paranoia creating alerts of Java and the horrible situation in Symbian which is just slowly getting fixed (except closed source)- Firefox developers opted in for the exact Windows scheme of doing things?
I can't blame plugin developers, a self signed certificate alert really looks more evil than unsigned code.
That Verisign/Symbian signed crap is _the_ reason why Commwarrior type of Symbian trojans which are slowly being converted to WinCE exists. People are trained/learned to ignore certificate alerts since even open source software guys couldn't sign their application with a valid signature rather than self signed , Thawte Freemail classic. If they offered free Symbian certificates to at least opensource developers, nobody would educate himself to ignore certificate alerts by OS. Now Symbian finally woke up a bit and offer it free to open source and yet they ask million dollar software houses to send their source (yes,source) to get signed.
That may happen to Sun one day too. They are still keeping their precious Java trusted certificates and even open source Java software comes with self signed certificates.
What would happen if they used the standard RC4 scheme or even text based gpgp which is in use for years?
What I am trying to say is, the current situation, if people doesn't get educated to ignore security warnings is lot better/safer than millions collectively ignoring security warnings. They should change the entire scheme of doing things, developers shouldn't teach users "If a security alert pops up, press ignore".
Let the Mono developer who is a Slashdot user defend his Framework. He will port Silverlight to Linux too. He also happens to work at Novell.
I had enough with his personal attack fans last time, not getting into details.
This security update updates Carbon giant framework which is 99.99999% in use. In fact your bride should read screen more carefully, right after asking admin password (hope she got one setup!) and getting correct password, Apple clearly warns user that reboot will be needed. It is very standard feature of software update and installer.
Automatic update sadly (yes,for me) doesn't install updates or reboot automatically, it just downloads package and user is prompted to install. Only way you can do such thing is running softwareupdate (the command) from Terminal via -install and again via Terminal, shutdown -restart.
On the other hand, I get flamed for some reason for telling that but Apple should REALLY alert user when something could need 2 reboots to install. Especially Windows switchers lose their mind when their shiny new Mac seem like failing to update. Not buried inside some KB article, it should be at first line, "For your information this update may reboot your computer twice" right where it could be seen.
Firefox is focused on general, average user profile who still uses bookmarks and even check their history manually.
h ots/speeddial.jpg
l ery/movies/04_workspaces.html (Embedded Mov file)
That is why they are successful at adopting the average browser user. That is what Mozilla suite (pre Firefox) missed and people like me were getting flamed/kicked/banned by community because of reminding that fact.
I think what is more interesting is Opera Speeddial feature which has been recently introduced. If they were just, a bit OS X native friendly... (I really need keychain)
http://www.opera.com/img/products/desktop/screens
They found that average end user visits 10 sites frequently and made that "Super simple bookmark" thing.
I personally prefer Omniweb Workspaces, a grouped bookmark feature native to Omniweb
http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/gal
They even coded a GUI shell to issue that command (freeware)
http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2007/03/vacuummail
They should start/continue with that situation in mind. There shouldn't be anything involving "speed up Firefox because of large history". It should be done automatically.
I played 720p Quicktime files via Mplayer-PPC on my G4 Mini since Quicktime choked a bit. It showed it 25-30 fps fine.
They really burned bridges by labeling our CPUs as some outdated low mhz monsters to millions of people, anyway, what has been done is done.
Speaking as a Quad G5 owner, I don't think Xserve Power6 would be viable choice since there is already AIX on that scene with some amazing IBM support. Look what they offer to PowerPC 970 (yes G5) Workstations and imagine what server owners get:
"Service Agent: The Service Agent is available at no additional charge. When installed on an IntelliStation POWER 185 workstation, the Service Agent can improve the level of maintenance service from IBM.
The Service Agent
Monitors and analyzes system errors, and if needed, can automatically place a service call to IBM without customer intervention
Can help reduce the effect of business disruptions due to unplanned system outages and failures
Performs problem analysis on a subset of hardware-related problems and, with customer authorization, can report automatically the results to IBM service"
It sounds like Apple Crash reporter but with a difference. The difference is, right after you even notice the problem, actual IBM guy comes to your workplace and fixes things if not remote fixable via service center.
For HPC, there is already Linux/Power solution which is said to be one of the best
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/y-hpc/
PowerPC G5 is a lightened Power4 chip. Yes that multi core, 64bit RISC CPU. That could give idea about the monsters mentioned on that story.
r /285/ and CTIA is not essentially entertainment I guess. :)
:)
Not saying for you of course, telling for people who thinks about buying a Desktop based on Power6. I don't think such thing could happen except if IBM decides to update their "Real" Power Workstation http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/intellistation/powe
If I were you, I'd really folllow http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ and http://www.power.org/ , I suspect very interesting things on way with PS3 (!) Cell Processor. Soon or later I will have to switch YDL Linux anyway so keeping eye on stuff. I even begged for PowerPC Linux Flash from Adobe already
Flash does show signs of horrible quality control which you can see at my Versiontracker post:e .php?story=20070416075853952
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/feedback/articl
The issue is, Internet Plugin arch is archaic on Apple too as told very nicely and openly by Webkit developers
http://webkit.org/blog/96/background-music/
It was designed in a time while a plugin designed to do vector graphic based UIs and Apps wasn't abused as a media plugin. That is my observation of course and sorry, I might be old fashioned but I still miss the times when Realplayer plugin opened its own UDP ports, switched bandwidth based on user latency and Quicktime extends itself with new codecs.
I am not very sure about the CPU optimisation since even Photoshop Elements V 3.0 comes with its own Altivec support plugin. Yes, the cheap Photoshop and horribly outdated.
If Apple decided to focus on portable machines and low power entertaintment devices, they didn't make a mistake. Intel really looks viable choice but they shouldn't be exclusive Intel vendor, they should always leave door open for AMD. They are way close to Intel now, too much.
I was just against the horrible level of propaganda against PowerPC by the Boss himself. PowerPC G5 is a very viable/modern processor for Desktop machines/Workstations. People got confused about what Steve Jobs means while advertising Intel switch. He was pointing the future and massive switch from Desktop to Laptop by ordinary people. If we think about G4 and people rendering DVD and soon Blu-Ray on their portables, he has a point. Motorola doesn't seem to care about laptop CPUs and IBM's focus is those server/high end workstation chips. What would happen if Steve Jobs called IBM and asked for a Intel portable competing/beating portable Power chip? IBM would politely say they are focused on high end chip wars, e.g. Sun Niagara.
I am watching the Cell Linux scene and possibilities. It seems that monster could make some amazing media focused computer. PS3 is just an example, imagine a more Desktop thing rather than optimised game console.
While on it, thanks to Slashdot editor who fixed my horrible first time submission.
I have read/commented on first story and after reading this one and comments, I'd say everyone to check http://www.phishtank.com/ and enjoy that mess they are defending.
I also have Starcraft here, that amazing company even keeps it updated for Tiger OS X.
About World Of Warcraft? I didn't even spare time to download its "demo" or I don't know if it even exists.
Imagine hearing "Anti spyware company counter sues Zango for 35 BILLION dollars for their allegations" and Google gives an army of lawyers to anti spyware company.
Why not? We would be free of patent trolls, large company suers for at least a year.
You could think the current situation exactly like that. There are dozens of anti spyware busting Zango but they are choosing a GOOGLE BUNDLED software to sue. Windows Defender is a hit, much more popular than Google one since it has "Microsoft" in it. I bet it doesn't suck that much and busts Zango too. Why not choose it?
It is like historical or current imperialists not fighting eachother but making small countries fight/hate eachother for their own good.
Lets hope Google or the small company making that software doesn't think a second about "settle".
Vuze, commercial arm of Azureus Java client has torrent
R Y6ZZ7DGLDG.html
http://www.vuze.com/details/QZ7CUAV5ENW2HC34CBKUT
I am posting this link since Vuze has no copyright issues it seems (all reviewed) and Azureus is multiplatform/oss java 5 client for torrents.
Also 1080 people are getting right now.