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How Image Spam Works

Esther Schindler writes "CSO Magazine has an article about "The Scourge of Image Spam," with an explanation of its effect (a year ago, fewer than five out of 100 e-mails were image spam; today, up to 40 percent are in that category, and image spam is the reason spam traffic overall doubled in 2006). You might already know about that, ho-hum. But what's even cooler is a interactive graphic page which demonstrates the various methods used by image spammers and how it works."

278 comments

  1. Spam? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Funny

    What is this thing you speak of?

    I haven't had any spam in years.

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    1. Re:Spam? by richdun · · Score: 1

      It a form of "meat." (emphasis on the quotes)

    2. Re:Spam? by Insightfill · · Score: 1
      What is this thing you speak of?

      I hear that spam is much like something called an "advertisement". I haven't seen these in a while, either. Maybe someone below will clear these things up.

    3. Re:Spam? by prelelat · · Score: 1

      If your refering to the type of email people get I never used to get it either, I had my own domain that sat on its lonesome that I never used. I used it to send email to my family and friend and then one day. 3 years after I started using the email account I started getting spam. No one is safe. You may think you are but your not...

      I sound like Bush :)

    4. Re:Spam? by u-bend · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Anyone with a Gmail account ever notice that your targeted advertising links are all about spam recipes (i.e. Spam Meat Loaf) when you're in your spam folder? I've always loved that, and figured that it may have started out as a bug, but one that the Gmail team sort of fell in love with.

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    5. Re:Spam? by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny
      Image?


      What is this thing you speak of? I use elm for an e-mail client.

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    6. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Spam? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Informative

      The spam recipe bar is an offshoot from the WebClips feature of your inbox.
      The inbox can be configured to have a single item selected at random from one of a number of RSS feeds, I have mine configured to show Routers oddly enough and slash.

      The area marked for webclips is a custom feed from www.recipesource.com

      If you look on your trash folder, you also get tips about recycling.

      The other folders give standard syndication adverts.

      More info here

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    8. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See here, young nerd, you should know what spam is!

      (the first link it to google videos, last link is to a wav file)

      -mcgrew

    9. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      elm? What's that? I always use telnet...

    10. Re:Spam? by BigDogCH · · Score: 1

      Yeah, though I hope they give the SPAM advertisers a break since the target isn't really the target, if that made any sense.

    11. Re:Spam? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 0, Redundant

      telnet? What's that? I always type directly to the ethernet device ...

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    12. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ethernet? What's that, like some fancy kind of paper?

    13. Re:Spam? by Jeff+Carr · · Score: 1

      Advertising? I haven't seen advertising in years...

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    14. Re:Spam? by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

      An Ethernet is a net for catching ether bunnies.

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    15. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, really. I use /bin/mail for an e-mail client, and I bin all HTML e-mail before it ever lands in my mail box.

      I actually had to read the linked article to learn what "image spam" was; I've never seen a single one.

    16. Re:Spam? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Mine was compromised when one retard was too dumb to decrypt the anti-spam I used (simply written out, no spaces, looks like random garbage) and someone else was "helpful" and posted it in a form that's easier to regex (that stupid [at] stuff, as if that would stop even a script kiddie).

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    17. Re:Spam? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      It's an electronic mail pigeon.

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    18. Re:Spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh you mean "Reuters", that sentence was so confusing at first ;-)

  2. Here's how it works from another perspective by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised.

    1. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Qoroite · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know, I've always wondered how true that really is.

      What sort of a brain-dead moron would actually fall for spam? There can't be many people that dumb surely?(I hope....)

    2. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know that the IQ bell curve has two tails. Somebody's got to be in the left tail. And since spam is nearly free, you only need to find a few idiots.

      Then again, they've got to be coming to the intersection point between "Dumb enough to buy v1@gra from a spammer" and "Too freaking stupid to use a computer or have any money".

    3. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Applekid · · Score: 1

      The linked article mentions some SEC investigations to some stocks that went up in value as a result of that sort of spam. SOMEONE's gotta be making money out there. I mean, all the advances making spam harder to track has to be funded SOMEHOW.

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    4. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      What sort of a brain-dead moron would actually fall for spam? There can't be many people that dumb surely?(I hope....)

      Enough to pump and dump penny stock, it would seem.
    5. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense! Virtually no one ever buys anything from spam. Those responsible for the proliferation of spam are the idiots who get fooled into paying spammers to send it.

    6. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There wouldn't be anyone in the left tail if we took the warning labels off everything.

      /just sayin'

    7. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You have to look at the business of spam to understand why it hasn't gone away yet.

      There are actually three parties involved in spamming: the merchant, the spammer, and the victims/recipients. The merchant is the trailer trash dude who fished a case of expired viagra out of some pharmacy's dumpster. He wants to sell it online and make a fortune. So he hires a spammer who agrees to send out 10,000 emails for $60.00.

      Whether or not the merchant makes a single sale has no effect on the spammer. The spammer made his money just by sending the crap emails out. And the supply of idiots with get-rich-quick schemes is virtually infinite, guaranteeing the spammers a never-ending stream of fools willing to hand them $60.00 apiece.

      This means we'll probably be fighting spam until the world runs out of greedy idiots.

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      John
    8. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

      "It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised"

      So that's why they are buying penis enlarging pills

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    9. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by giorgiofr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd like to add that there is a forth party involved and it's the one all we sysadmins hate - the cracker who's hired by the spammer to root boxen left and right. I believe most people trying to break into my server are looking for a compromisable host to set up a mail server.
      On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed a huge drop in the effectiveness of greylisting as a spam countermeasure? I used to receive close to zero spam messages up until 2-3 weeks ago and suddenly they're flooding me! Any hint?

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    10. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Mr+Z · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I once made a calculation that if every person on the Internet responded positively to precisely one spam, that would be enough to make spam wildly profitable. Granted, that was a few years ago, but bandwidth (and therefore spam) has only gotten cheaper and bot nets more prevalent (making spam cheaper still).

      You don't have to go too far down the left tail of the bell curve to make up for the folks on the right half. After all, in terms of positive response, the best the folks in the right half can do is respond positively to zero spams. The further you go into the left tail, the more likely you are to run into people who respond positively to spam on a somewhat regular basis. The cut-over line for "responds to spam" vs "does not respond to spam" can be pretty far into the left tail and still have spam be profitable.

      Making matters worse, negative responses to spam rarely do anything to the spammer. Instead, they just annoy IT departments into implementing ever heavier spam filters. Every so often somebody gets sued, but it's hardly enough to make a real dent in things.

    11. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by FozE_Bear · · Score: 0

      How do you find a "spammer" to hire? Can't we bust them that way? Can't the DOJ pretend they have a case of Viagre to sell?

    12. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by vertinox · · Score: 1

      "It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised."

      Personally, I don't think there should be legislation aimed at spammers directly because it is useless to try to bring someone in Eastern Europe or Asia to justice or even stop spam.

      We should however pass legislation against companies who ads or information appear in spam messages. Obviously, the are companies that are often in the states who could be punished.

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    13. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Vicarius · · Score: 1

      It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised. How about those who pay for that spam?! Not all spammers send out their own emails.

      On the similar note, today I got the weirdest spam - it was advertising spam and its effectiveness. They even gave me a phone number to call... I wish I could spam their phone as much as they spam my mailbox.
    14. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by plover · · Score: 1

      How do you find a "spammer" to hire?
      Google for bulk email services. The first couple of links will get you in touch with companies who will get you in touch with companies that provide lists of companies that offer bulk email services.

      For a price. Hey, nothing's free.

      Can't the DOJ pretend they have a case of Viagre to sell?
      Apart from the fact that the people who decide what cases to pursue are too busy protecting their own jobs to chase spammers, there's a couple of problems that get in their way: entrapment laws, and national boundaries. Asking someone to do something illegal constitutes entrapment. And since the net doesn't respect national boundaries, a cut-out company located in Russia or Estonia can completely block an investigation. I'm not saying they can't be caught, just that it's very tough to do it in a legally sound way.
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    15. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      We should however pass legislation against companies who ads or information appear in spam messages.
      Which would make sending out spam with a competitor's name in it the thing to do.
    16. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Bob-taro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, you don't even need one stupid person falling for the spam-vertisements. All you need is stupid marketing managers who will pay for the spam campaign -- whether or not it is working.

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    17. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by MenTaLguY · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It isn't even always an IQ issue -- some people simply have problems "saying no". Imagine an intelligent person with poor sales resistance, for example.

      The other problem is that offers of sex or money tend to make people stupid.

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    18. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed a huge drop in the effectiveness of greylisting as a spam countermeasure? I used to receive close to zero spam messages up until 2-3 weeks ago and suddenly they're flooding me! Any hint?
      Greylist don't "magically" stop spams, dont even have to know that is spam or not what is stopping. Only asks that the sending server is well behaved and try again to send the same message (same sender, same destination) after some minutes/hours and it works against spam because most spam-sending bots usually dont retry. But you only need to be targetted by machines that behaves well in this sense to get again spam.
    19. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by nuzak · · Score: 1

      > We should however pass legislation against companies who ads or information appear in spam messages.

      Do you honestly think Pfizer is in on viagra spam?

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    20. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by AlfieJ · · Score: 1

      What was the phone number? Let's post all the spam numbers we get and do a /. effect on their phones.

    21. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Threni · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It also works because, despite the fact that I only send emails that consist solely of text, and am only interested in receiving emails which consist solely of text, it's apparently beyond the wit of Gmail and other email based software vendors to allow me to reject any emails which contain html and/or graphics. I don't want 'em! It's always either spam or some other lame shit. I don't know about the rest of you, but that'd sort me out nicely.

    22. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Samus · · Score: 1

      I know that in the past I have received spam promoting a product that I was interested in. I don't remember now what it was but it wasn't anything like the viagra/porn/stock spams. I deleted the spam on principal but there are others out there that may not know/care.

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    23. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Wiseleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I sell software volume licensing.

      You would not believe how many times I receive as a forwarded message from my customers a piece of spam that promotes "OEM" software at 90% off asking me "Should we get this?". The Adobe CS3 for $90.9 instead of $999, for example. :-)

      I reply to such clients with an explanation of what OEM software really is and how it's different from unlicensed software.

      Not every one of the spam recipients has someone like me with whom to consult, so I'd imagine the spammers are making a decent profit off this warez websites. I am sure everyone remembers that the best place to go find a new species of malware for research is to visit a serial numbers site.

      I am guessing that _very_ few (I know that the overwhelming majority of them is in the legitimate line of work now and it's just a few bad apples who are spoiling the scene) of the kids who ran the early warez sites have either grown up or their work was noticed and copied. Either way, warez e-commerce is big business.

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    24. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed a huge drop in the effectiveness of greylisting as a spam countermeasure?
      Presumably one or more of the really big spam botnets like Bagle have started obeying the relevant RFC. Sigh. It was always going to happen, greylisting fanboys. Any simple, effective anti-spam measure is virtually by definition also simple and desirable for the spammers to circumvent.

      We need anti-forgery technology like SPF to be widely deployed, but that will only help up to a point. SMJ, the admin of SDF, has proposed an STMP registry (FAQ) which is basically a database of SMTP servers registered with verified contact details, not unlike registering a domain. This isn't a problem for companies setting up a few long-term STMP servers, but it is for spammers with tens of thousands of constantly changing spam hosts. This could work in principle, although it has the obvious problem of needing widespread adoption before people can decide to only accept 'registered' mail.

    25. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by FozE_Bear · · Score: 0

      You can get around the entrapment easy. You pay them to spam for you only to track and confirm the source, then you find evidence that they spammed for someone else. Being out of the country is a little harder, but you could tell the other country to extradite the bastards or we'll cut off the whole countries access to our internet :)

    26. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by nickyj · · Score: 1

      Why not fight spam with SPAM? Use a spam filter to identify spam email, then have a program that takes that spam and replies (with some other spam email), or clicks the web address, or both! Then we can flood the spammers with spam and DDOS attacks. How profitable can it be to get more spam and useless use of bandwidth if 50% of their messages get worthless responses? Now it would be more work to find the "sucker" of the spam for the spammer.

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    27. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's about the same level of suspension of disbelief as that of those who still think George Bush is doing a good job and that the war in Iraq is winnable. Then multiply the poll percentage of those holding that belief by two because there's probably a similar percentage (with no overlap) who would feel the same way if George Bush was a Democrat.

      So, probably between 22% and 40% of the US population.

    28. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a familiar idea. Too bad it didn't work.

      The problem is that any coordinated effort will also likely have a single point of failure.

      --Joe
    29. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      I'm sure I'm not the only one who's gotten spam that's just blank. No links, no text, no images. Someone somewhere had to create that, right? What's the point? Anyone know?

    30. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      How? HOW do you buy what they are selling? I've received plenty of spam where I could not NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRIED have purchased anything mentioned in the spam. I understand the penny stocks ones. We actually tracked some penny stocks using our spamfilter to see whether the spammers were profitting or not and they were. There would be no volume on a penny stock for 4-6 months, then some medium volume as the spammers bought their initial shares, then HUGE (relatively speaking) volume as the spam mail started to show up on our filters. After 2-3 days the stock would peak and the spams would taper off and the stock would go back down to normal. But breast enlargement, great mortgage deals, all that crap I just CAN NOT find a way to give those people my money. No working email address, no working website, no contact information. I couldn't mail them a duffle bag full of 20s much less buy their supposed product.

      Kintanon

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    31. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by DaveWick79 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then a bunch of clueless yahoos with some backdoor spyware on their system will simply get a bunch more spam back from us.

      Do you really think that spammers are actually sending mail from their own computers or even their own mail servers?

    32. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your post advocates a

      (*) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (*) vigilante

      approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

      ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
      (*) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
      ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
      ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
      (*) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
      (*) Users of email will not put up with it
      (*) Microsoft will not put up with it
      (*) The police will not put up with it
      ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
      ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
      (*) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
      ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
      (*) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

      Specifically, your plan fails to account for

      (*) Laws expressly prohibiting it
      ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
      (*) Open relays in foreign countries
      ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
      (*) Asshats
      (*) Jurisdictional problems
      ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
      ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
      ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
      (*) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
      ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
      (*) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
      (*) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
      ( ) Extreme profitability of spam
      (*) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
      ( ) Technically illiterate politicians
      ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
      (*) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
      (*) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
      ( ) Outlook

      and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

      ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
      ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
      ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
      ( ) Blacklists suck
      ( ) Whitelists suck
      ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
      ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
      (*) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
      ( ) Countermeasures must work if ph

    33. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously, that is more +5 insightful than it is +5 funny.

    34. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Jimmy_B · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised.
      No, they don't. Even if no one ever bought a single item that was advertised by spam, the spam would still be sent. That's because there are two people involved: the seller and the spammer, usually not the same person. The spammer convinces the seller that a spam campaign will increase sales, and the seller pays the spammer to send them. It doesn't have to be true, it only has to be convincing.
    35. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by plover · · Score: 1
      Maybe you just need some fresher spam.

      Take a look at Phishtank. They have plenty of fresh phish you can sample to see if the web sites are still up. Some of the submitted links are for spamvertisements, and not just phish, so you can sample what's currently out there.

      The other thing is that the merchants and the spammers don't always speak the same language, and the merchants are pretty stupid. They may send an email saying something like "Ill pay you too send a emale for sellign viagar?" The spammer simply pastes his request letter into his spam engine and charges the idiot's credit card $60. The rest of us get spammed with letters that read exactly this: "Ill pay you too send a emale for sellign viagar?", the spammer gets his $60, and Cletus wonders why he's not selling any viagra.

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    36. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Joebert · · Score: 1

      I'm sure I'm not the only one who's gotten spam that's just blank. No links, no text, no images. Someone somewhere had to create that, right? What's the point? Anyone know?
      Spammers are just like everyone else when it comes to software, except, when they forget to attach a file, hundreds of thousands of people know about it.

      Talk about preassure !
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    37. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Talk about preassure !

      Note the clever spammer sympathizer grief evasion tactic. :)
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    38. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by aogilmor · · Score: 1

      Uh...dude? Nobody "fish(es) a case of expired viagra out of some pharmacy's dumpster." If this were possible, you'd see long lines of junkies around every pharmacy's dumpster. Pharmacies must return any expired drugs to the manufacturer, who then disposes of them.

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    39. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by trentblase · · Score: 1

      Imagine an intelligent person with poor sales resistance, for example. I'm imagining an oxymoron.
    40. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed a huge drop in the effectiveness of greylisting as a spam countermeasure? I used to receive close to zero spam messages up until 2-3 weeks ago and suddenly they're flooding me! Any hint?


      If you had any idea how hard I had to work to penetrate your defenses, you'd know better than to ask me how I did it.
    41. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now that is offensive for dumb people, you insensitive clod

    42. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      excuse me Sir; I am from Eastern Europe. Over a decade 99% of spam is either in English of East Asian languages.

    43. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this were possible, you'd see long lines of junkies around every pharmacy's dumpster. Pharmacies must return any expired drugs to the manufacturer, who then disposes of them.

      Ah, this would explain the long line of junkies around my local drug manufacturer's dumpster!
    44. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Because they make money from html advertisements themselves.

      I know there are few here that like Yahoo mail, but recently things have gotten ridiculous. They now routinely convert a 1,000 byte posts into 20,000 byte emails, and you have to change your preferences to "traditional" to stop this madness. I had to switch all my @webtv.net subscribers (almost 100 of them, out of 8,000 subscribers, surprisingly) to traditional as the Yahoo superimposed ads completely blocked my content. B-e-a-utiful.

      All in the name of profit via html ads.

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    45. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 1

      P2P or something similar to the IronPort system of communication for Black listing IP address'?

      We are geeks after all, I'm sure we can come up with something that doesn't have a single point of failure.

      That said, the problem is not a single point of failure or not, the problem is that if we start stooping to a similar level then we are no better than the spammers. A fine moral path to walk (not that I walk it at all, I'm ready to help the GP with as much work as possible), but a path that is there none the less.

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    46. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The prime aread of the left tail for spam victims is between to "stupid to use the internet" and "too stupid to avoid posting their email address in unobscured plaintext".

      What this means is that the email addresses of users most likely to be victims spam, so in effect the spammers don't have to worry about trying to target potential victims.

    47. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Nope, I don't think anybody buy anything that is spamvertized. The suckers are the business owners that get duped into thinking that spamvertisments work and will make them money. They pay the spammer to send the crap and instead of massive sales, they get 10 death threats from sysadmins. The spammer doesn't give a damn about whether it works or not, all he does is go look for the next dumbass that will pay him to send more crap.

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    48. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by syousef · · Score: 1

      Two things:

      1) It's not just about playing on low IQ or gullibility, it's also about playing on desperation. Why do you think there's so much spam to do with Viagra etc. Desperate people will often give something a go even though they know it's not going to work, especially when you're only talking a small percentage of their disposable income.

      2) Even smart people have bad days and make dumb decisions.

      I'm not condoning this behaviour. I've never bought anything based on spam. However I'd hesitate to claim every purchase I've ever made is a good one. How about you?

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    49. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by MenTaLguY · · Score: 1

      Intelligent people can have poor self-esteem and lack assertiveness too, you know.

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    50. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      No, it's funny. IQ ALWAYS has the average at 100. If you increase the average intelligence you simply move where people are in the curve.

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    51. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by jfengel · · Score: 1

      It's a good point. I've done plenty of incredibly stupid things, and bought my fair share of stupid stuff.

      I'm pretty sure, however, that for the most part I didn't make life worse for everybody in the universe by doing so. OK, I exaggerate a bit, but that's the nub. I really don't care if somebody gets ripped off buying fake Viagra or getting into a stupid stock scam.

      But every time somebody does those things, 10,000 emails get dumped into my inbox, and your inbox, and everybody else's inbox. Spammers annoy the entire world trying to get to that infinitesimal fraction who are so desperate that they're not thinking about how they're making my day worse through their actions.

    52. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by triclipse · · Score: 2, Informative
      In addition to the cracker mentioned in the other post, there are often many layers of people profiting from the spam. To use my mortgage spam example (see my above post) there is:

      1. The script writer who writes the script to compromise the PC
      2. The idiot whose unprotected PC spews forth the spam
      3. The ratfuck who controls the botnet and rents it out to the main spammer
      4. The main spammer who serves as the point of contact with the "lead generators"
      5. The asshat individual spammer "affiliates" who spam at the direction of the main spammer
      6. The lead generators who buy the spam leads knowing they were generated by spam and the greywash them by selling them to ...
      7-9. ... the middlemen who buy the spam leads from the lead generator and in turn represent themselves as "lead generators" to mortgage brokers and banks, promising the mortgage brokers and banks that the leads were generated legitimately through their web sites.
      10. The mortgage brokers and banks who buy the leads from the middlemen without asking too many questions, but have read the terms of the contract which state the leads were generated legitimately.
      11. The foolio who replied to the mortgage spam and is now getting calls from dozens of mortgage brokers wanting to give him a quote.

      The broker paid probably $1.00 per lead, but stands to make $5,000 to $15,000 in commissions.

      I sued some mortgage spammers, and when I got to their bank records through discovery, these fuckers were grossing $90,000 per day. You read that correctly.

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    53. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You suppose that people read all those warning labels?

    54. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have to stoop to an even lower level. Think mafia style executions, with "spammer" written on the walls with blood.

    55. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      We need to move back to having computers which are just hard enough to get online that the people stupid enough to fall for spam won't be able to manage it...

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    56. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It works because some rat fuckers out there buy the shit that's being advertised"

      So that's why they are buying penis enlarging pills
      Hey, if some guy really needs to buy penis enlarging pills just for the sake of fucking a rat, they deserve our utmost sympathy...
    57. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      There's also "too stupid to think a computer can't figure out what [at] means".

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    58. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Err, should be "stupid enough". That happens when your attention span is only sufficient for half a sentence.

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    59. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Phisbut · · Score: 1

      We need to move back to having computers which are just hard enough to get online that the people stupid enough to fall for spam won't be able to manage it...

      Hey... I just got my sister to be able to use her computer without calling me every day... don't make me go back to those times.

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    60. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by cburley · · Score: 1

      Intelligent people can have poor self-esteem and lack assertiveness too, you know.

      I don't think you're right about that. Well, maybe you are...what do I know? I guess I should just keep quiet....

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    61. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Nossie · · Score: 1

      "Then a bunch of clueless yahoos with some backdoor spyware on their system will simply get a bunch more spam back from us."

      And your problem with that is?

      Mail-bomb the 'clueeless yahoos' into the ground until

      A) they care and become clued and disinfected
      OR
      B) don't have an internet connection to speak of.

      either way the problem is solved.

    62. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Nossie · · Score: 1

      I think they just went back underground to BT, FTP and IRC.. (oh and NNTP)

      its much easier for your average warez guy to upload a torrent from his own computer than host a cd image behind a webserver.

    63. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Nossie · · Score: 1

      whats the chance its a premium rate line?

    64. Re:Here's how it works from another perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There might not be anyone in the right tail either. At the very least, we wouldn't have any aspiring scientists left...

      "But how sure are we that if we pull this lever, we'll get an electric shock? Oh what the hell, let's just try it and see!"

      CAPTCHA: quacked

  3. A thought by Gizmit · · Score: 0

    Would we be able to use OCR software to pull text from the pictures? Then we could subject the image spam to standard filters. Frankly, I'd do anything to stop receiving these retarded pump-n-dump-stock spams.

    1. Re:A thought by JesseL · · Score: 1

      2/3 of the article is about the methods spammers use to fool OCR software that might be analyzing the message. RTFA.

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    2. Re:A thought by CaptainPatent · · Score: 1
      From TFA:

      To defeat OCR, spammers upset the geometry of letters enough--by altering colors, for example--so that OCR can't "see" a letter even as the human eye easily recognizes it. The effect is something like blurred characters in an eye test.

      If OCR catches up to the color tricks in image spam, a spammer's next defense is word splitting. By dividing the image and leaving space in between the pieces, any image the OCR engine is examining is only a piece of a letter with its own distinct geometry. Instead of word splitting, some spammers have employed a ransom note technique in which each letter in the spam message is its own image, and each letter image includes background noise and other baffling techniques.

      Unfortunately spammers are still a step ahead.

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    3. Re:A thought by plover · · Score: 1

      RTFA. A big part of the article is devoted to the images being split up, animated and fuzzed (just like CAPTCHAs) so they can dodge OCR based spam filters.

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    4. Re:A thought by Zenaku · · Score: 1

      The article (or at least the interactive thingy) specifically discusses the techniques that image spammers use to confuse OCR and render it ineffective. So, short answer is: filters already do this, and it doesn't work.

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    5. Re:A thought by Applekid · · Score: 2, Informative

      TFA shows exactly how the images try to fool OCR software.

      Defenses against OCR:
      * Throw in pixel noise
      * Alter colors (I don't really understand this one other than insufficient contrast)
      * Alter geometry enough to throw recognition algorithms off
      * Give each letter a different font/position/geometry so adaptive OCR doesn't have enough samples to adapt.
      * Split up images into layers of multiple images such that no single image has, by itself, any text

      It's a very interesting article. We're going to have to make big strides in AI to the point where computers will be checking email and evaluating it as spam similar to how we do it as humans.

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    6. Re:A thought by misleb · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunately spammers are still a step ahead.


      Are they? Hardly any of it gets through my Spamassassin filter. There was a period back last October 2006 or so when I got a lot, but SA caught up. I did have to add a little weight to "image only" rules, but so far I've been able to filter the vast majority of it out.

      -matthew
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    7. Re:A thought by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      At least the spammers are doing free captcha R&D.

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    8. Re:A thought by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Think of the "alter colors" approach as similar to 133T. But the results being "normal human" legible.

      Say you were going to display a capital R. But you change the color of the forward leg to be a different color. A program might interpret it as a P with a funny mark (possibly an i?). Now, instead of doing it at a somewhat understandable location, maybe you write a capital W with \/\/ where the colors alternate between pink, magenta, pink, red. A human would see the W, but a computer would interpret it as \/\/ --> llll.....in other words, meaningless.

      You could even take it steps further and break the letter into even less regular shapes so that it made no difference.

      Of course, one way to combat that is to convert the image to greyscale and alter the contrast. It isn't fool proof, but it should reduce the impact that the color altering has on the OCR.

      Layne

    9. Re:A thought by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      But why does the binary content have to be OCR'ed? Can't the image be processed completely and THEN OCR'ed? That would eliminate the problems of layering, splitting, etc. And OCR the greyscale version (with maybe a jacked up contrast) to get around color problems. It won't solve all of the problems, but it should reduce the number that you need to address.

      Layne

    10. Re:A thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like with a spam filter, you don't actually have to read the text. If you can recognize that an image is probably text, but can't read it, you should probably mark it as spam. It seems that would be easier than perfecting OCR on the garbled text.

    11. Re:A thought by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Couldn't the computer convert the image to black and white (1-bit colour, not greyscale) before attempting the OCR? You'd probably have to do some configuring as to the threshold for converting to black/white, but It shouldn't really be that hard.

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    12. Re:A thought by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

      And if people are converting to greyscale, then you just throw in pixel noise in different colors. Humans, again, will sort out the irrelevent colors and see the letters, but the computer would have to trace them as part of the OCR.

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    13. Re:A thought by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      Since it's heavily fuzzed, it's unlikely to compress very well. You could compare compressed and uncompressed sizes, or compare how badly jpeg mangles it.

    14. Re:A thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you will filter out just about every email that contains a company logo, like Ford, Dodge, IBM, Microsoft, HP, etc...

    15. Re:A thought by jandrese · · Score: 1

      That's all great an all, but is anybody going to buy something from a link that has crazy ransom-note-like letters with random colors and digital noise all over the place? Not to mention the likely bad grammar and all of the other things that make spam risky. Sometimes I think this image spam is just a way to try to make spam blocking researchers waste a lot of time with OCR software.

      On the other hand, I wouldn't think people would click on regular spam either, so obviously I'm underestimating the stupidity of some people.

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    16. Re:A thought by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      And the problem with this is?
      If I receive unsolicited commercial mail from anywhere, its spam.

      If they are known to me and have a relationship I will add them to my contacts list.

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    17. Re:A thought by Gizmit · · Score: 0

      I would have read TFA, but it was sadly blocked by the corporate firewall. That said, it sounds interesting.

    18. Re:A thought by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      It won't solve all of the problems, but it should reduce the number that you need to address. That makes it a nuclear arms race. The more sophisticated of an analysis you can make, the easier it will make it to bypass things like Captcha.
    19. Re:A thought by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      The problem is that in order to OCR the image it has to be downloaded. When that happens with a bugged URL you just confirm to the spammer that your address is an active account and they can sell it off to other spammers. The only solution is to turn off all graphics/binary objects from non-whitelisted senders.

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    20. Re:A thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OCR already scans grayscale. As for animated gifs, what do you do when a newer frame scribbles over the old one (if just for a frame)?

      We started for a while to win with primarily content analysis, but it's clear we have to beef up the reputation systems with IP blocking to keep winning. As it stands now, spammers are taking back the momentum. Besides, IP blocking is computationally as cheap as it gets in antispam.

    21. Re:A thought by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      That's all great an all, but is anybody going to buy something from a link that has crazy ransom-note-like letters with random colors and digital noise all over the place?

      Hey. You didn't post the link. How can I answer your question unless I know whether I'll actually buy the stuff!

      Frankly this is all Marc Andreessen's fault. Remember how email used to work before that horrible Netscape Messenger back in the mid-90s? Tech support people used to laugh at old ladies who called worrying about catching computer viruses via email. That used to be hilarious. Now you get a weird email and have to worry that your preview pane might install a rootkit. I liked email better when it was all just sterile text. I think most people did. Hyperlinks are the only useful thing that HTML brings to email, and an email client can pick them out of ASCII and render them as linked text anyway.

      Marketing people seem to have a weakness for pretty HTML- they keep insisting they need it, as if they don't experience email like all the rest of us do. Nicely presented and formatted HTML may have been impressive back in 1994, but after a decade of abuse it's become a powerful visual indicator of garbage that's a waste of your time to even move your eyes across. If you use the web for more than a week you quickly develop a revulsion for prettiness just from the banner ads. If I see anything more than the most simple HTML, I immediately assume I'm looking at an advertisement. I actually can't find important links I'm looking for sometimes, which are sitting right there, because they've been stupidly disguised to look like advertisements. And that's just on the web. For email, the visual cue is even more glaring. It takes me a few milliseconds to notice colors or photography in an email before I delete it without reading. I'd set up a filter if I weren't so lazy. If all mailservers were to suddenly start shitcanning HTML, it would solve a number of problems and nobody worth listening to would even notice.

    22. Re:A thought by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      It's not as questionable as all that 1337 5p34k spam.

    23. Re:A thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have already approached the point where not only OCR has difficulty processing the image, but a human cannot read it either.
      I have seen some "stock spam" images that I really cannot read, and I am not even colorblind.

      Fortunately, image spam is usually sent via zombie networks. It is so easy to detect at the SMTP transaction level that you usually do not even need to receive the message, let alone bother to look at processing the image.
      Things will get more difficult once they solve their SMTP bugs. But they probably won't as long as the average spamfilter is not looking at that level, and apparently they are not.
      (judging from the amount of complaints about stock spam getting through filters)

    24. Re:A thought by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Oh, well then all we need to do is impose your habits on humanity and we're there.

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  4. It's A Turing Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Spammers are sending out Turing Tests. Beware of spam filters that are too good. They just might be intelligent.

    1. Re:It's A Turing Test by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      I'm not entirely convinced that the spam isn't a predecessor to some kind of Skynet trying to mobilize all those discarded Tomagotchi toys from 10 years ago.

  5. For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic... by garcia · · Score: 5, Informative

    For me the spam e-mails are minimal to my machine. I do see a couple of them come in through GMail on the account that I have posted publicly on my website for people to contact me but for the most part they are the standard stock pump and dumps or phishing schemes.

    What has been killing me recently were the fucking botnet "attacks" sucking my DSL's bandwidth with those douchebags hitting me with a GET and an immediate POST for tons of URLs all over my site. Their referrer was http://www.google.com/ and for a few hours I couldn't figure out how to stop that w/o stopping Google search referrals too.

    Some nice guy in #apache helped me out with:

    SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "^http://www.google.com/?$" BadReferrer=1

    SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "^http://www.google.com/?$" BadReferrer
    order deny,allow
    deny from env=BadReferrer

    That has been returning 403s to the botnet which apparently stop such frequent attempts when they receive the error. I was getting hit with their shit every 4 to 5 seconds all day yesterday and now they are "pinging" me with attempts every hour or so. I don't know if it's a different botnet or the same one trying to get back in but that was the most effectual way to drop the huge spam traffic I was receiving but couldn't ban due to the wide range of IPs.

    Botnets fucking suck :(

  6. FTFA by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

    E-mail solicitations that use graphical images of text to avoid filters are not new.


    This is easy enough to defeat. Ignore all emails that aren't plain text.
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    1. Re:FTFA by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Agreed but I'd go further. Reduce emails to plain text and attached files. No HTML. If you need to send images then post them to a web site and send the url or put them in a zip file.

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    2. Re:FTFA by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You don't even need to be that uptight.

      Seriously, I once read something about using OCR software to "read" images that come through in e-mail to make sure that they don't contain stock spam or penis pump messages. Who thinks this is really necessary? Has anyone you know really gotten so frustrated with the limited font choices in regular e-mail that they started composing their messages in Photoshop?

      Trained Bayesian filters seem to have no problem at all spotting image spam.

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    3. Re:FTFA by crossmr · · Score: 1

      then chris hanson would be out of a job.

    4. Re:FTFA by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right after the OCR talk started to lead them (antispam people) in some common/working solutions, Spammers begun to use anti-OCR systems. I made a friend working at a big newspaper to test the anti OCR measures via some very expensive professional OCR software, he said it failed to read anything meaningful.

      That was the day OCR as antispam became real irrelevant for me. They also figured resolution filters are coming, they immediately started to randomise gif resolutions by 1-5 pixels. There goes that method too.

      About the images? I bet there are millions of "fw:fw:fw:look, funny!!!!!" messages around just having a single image. Yes, even at flickr/imageshack ages. They now drag Flickr images to mail window and send it like that.

      For some people, they are "messages from their friends" and they will go nuts if they figure out that actual junk was filtered as spam. Of course, lets not go too harsh, there could be people trading family photos like that and that 12 kb jpeg becomes really precious.

      I suggest the long term but real solutions: http://www.spamcop.net/ (for mail) and http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ (for web/blogs) . I even started to CC: my Microsoft Pirated software spam to piracy@Microsoft, let the evil care about evil.

    5. Re:FTFA by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's great for you and me, but the "average Joe" has no idea what you are talking about. For instance, one of my friends took some pictures of my niece playing with my daughter. She has a digital camera and uses Picasa. She has absolutely no idea what she is doing... all she could figure out is to click the "email these photos" button. Please don't ask me to talk her through opening a zipped folder of photos over the phone!

      My only use of HTML mail is for sending links. A very long url will wrap around on the screen and cause trouble when the recipient tries to click it or cut-and-paste it, so using an <a> tag seems appropriate. Actually, I now use tinyurl.com, but that wasn't always available.

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    6. Re:FTFA by Dhalka226 · · Score: 1

      Who thinks this is really necessary?

      I do, at least potentially.

      Has anyone you know really gotten so frustrated with the limited font choices in regular e-mail that they started composing their messages in Photoshop?

      Of course not. I have, however, had people who wanted to send me a picture and just dropped it in an email with no accompanying text. I've done it a time or two myself (when I've told somebody it was coming; gaim/pidgin (AIM protoctol) file transfers between the two of us over IM haven't worked for a while).

      Since this is a possibility, you can't just make a blind assumption that "image in email with no other text == spam." Without that assumption, you need some other method of determining whether it is or isn't, unless you want to end up looking at it anyway. Since we're talking about spam filters I assume that isn't the case.

      Maybe there are better methods of capturing this case than trying to OCR the image, but I don't necessarily see that as a BAD idea depending on the speed and accuracy of the OCR algorithm.

    7. Re:FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, yeah, that's what I don't get. Why are filters analyzing the image? You just need to know whether or not an image attachment exists. If there's an image, then it's probably spam.

    8. Re:FTFA by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      You don't need to go that far. Auto-whitelist anyone who sends you plain text non-spam, so that they can then send you anything, but force the first message to be plain text.

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    9. Re:FTFA by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I have, however, had people who wanted to send me a picture and just dropped it in an email with no accompanying text Have you ever wanted to send a picture with no text to someone you have not previously corresponded with? I suggest a whitelist system, where only people on the list are allowed to send you anything other than plain text, and auto-whitelist the people who have already sent you non-spam.
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    10. Re:FTFA by walt-sjc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The most effective way is whitelisting... I setup an exim filter that captures outbound addresses and adds them to a whitelist DB. If you send a short email with a single image and are not on the whitelist, you get rejected. Result is zero image spams and no known false positives. This may or may not work for others, but it works for me.

    11. Re:FTFA by catbutt · · Score: 1

      I use html mail all the time. It's a lot easier for both me and the recipient than attaching a word processing document (i tend to compose most documents in either gmail or google documents, and paste between them). I like having word wrap behave correctly. I like having bold and italic and bulleted lists and numbered lists and pretty links and being able to quote things with a nice indent (without a bunch of ugly >'s to screw up cut-and-pasting). I occasionally color or highlight text, for instance to show changes from a previous version.

      And yes, I send images a lot too.

      That said, I am aware of my audience. I tend to know what mail client they are using, and know it won't be a problem for them. No one has ever complained.

      Now, I would be happy with a rule that disallows images in emails IF they aren't from people I regularly correspond with. But if avoding spam means disabling a feature that is useful to me, that would qualify as "letting the terrorists win" in my book.

    12. Re:FTFA by Buran · · Score: 1

      I do exactly that with Apple Mail. If you include a .gif or a .jpg in an email and you are not on my previous correspondents list or in my address book, you go into the spam folder. I have no reason to expect strangers to be sending me images, after all. Mail's spam filter otherwise does a pretty good job combined with those on gmail and google apps.

      But does anyone know how to get Mail to actually mark a message as spam and not just shove it into the spam folder?

    13. Re:FTFA by cos(x) · · Score: 1

      Reduce emails to plain text and attached files. No HTML. Thunderbird is able to sanitize incoming e-mails in that way and I have been using this setting for ages. It works best if combined with the "HTML!" toolbar button available via the Buttons! Add-on. All incoming e-mail appears as plain text by default. When you receive an e-mail that can only properly be viewed as HTML (airline and hotel booking confirmations are frequent offenders for me), the HTML version is just one click away.
      With these settings, I must say I have been pretty much unaffected by image SPAM. I was not even aware of the amount of image SPAM out there these days. I do not use any server-side filtering, relying on Thunderbird's built in Bayesian classifier. It's been doing a great job on image SPAM so far. And when it misses a message or two, all I see is a blank e-mail or one with random text in it. The spammer's message goes unnoticed in a GIF attachment that I never get to see.
    14. Re:FTFA by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      I absolutely never send HTML and consider it an insult to receive it. Links are not a good reason to use HTML. TinyURL.com the links and you are good to go.

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    15. Re:FTFA by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      What did you do before tinyurl?

      Don't you think that feeling insulted is a bit extreme? Irritated, sure, but I don't think anyone is trying to insult you!

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    16. Re:FTFA by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Before TinyURL I would learn how to chop stuff off links to make them shorter. For example, CNN or Salon stories always have an index.htm that can be removed. CNet ads a bunch of fields after the "?" that are not needed, and lately added a very descriptive set of words between the first and second "/", all of which can be deleted. This web page has a link of "http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=234943&op=Rep ly&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=nested&pid=1915 5471" but if I want to tell others about the story itself I would send "http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=234943". etc.

      The insult is when I subscribe to a quotes list (one of my interest areas) and they send one quote with ten tons of htmlified crapola. I archive what I get and don't appreciate the staggering bloat factor inherent in html email.

      Maybe insulted is the wrong word, but is not uncommon for me to unsubscribe from an email newsletter simply because it is in html. Recent examples include Papa John's pizza -- not even readable in Eudora (I turn off the gui viewer as it is spammer friendly), I have to click a link to go to a web page to read the offer. Another was some computer site, not NewEgg (that is marginally readable) -- it grouped all the product names, then grouped all the prices -- whee!

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    17. Re:FTFA by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I certainly wouldn't expect the average person to be able to shorten urls manually :)

      I'd suggest that you are a bit like a fisherman trying to fight the tide...

      You seem like a pretty tech-savvy guy - can't you whip up a script that strips the html out of your quotes archive?

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    18. Re:FTFA by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Of course I take the measures here to prevent spam, I just additionally report spam using spamcop.net and install some honeypots to sites I manage using project honeypot.

      I think I found the magic formula to prevent stock spam. I use Sorbs RBL to vanish (tested for 1 year before vanishing), Spamcop RBL to move to Junk and Aspam's "isspam@domain" scheme added as third party default "reporting" (CC: of spam in fact) address. Result: 1 spams passes a week to inbox.

      Sorbs is really effective since stock spam comes from zombies (open proxy) 99% of time.

    19. Re:FTFA by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      The average person doesn't shorten URLs, but they also don't forward them to 8,000 people. If they do forward them to a friend, then as others have mentioned you white list them and allow that message to come through. It is about information delivery: when I want to read & process something regularly and easily, I want text. So, things I subscribe to should offer a text format.

      I fight plenty of tides and yes this is one of them. As I penned elsewhere in this thread, people who publish that choose html usually do it because 1) they think it is *ach*"pretty"*ach*, 2) they want to get people clicking on stuff (as opposed to delivering the information I want), 3) they are lazy/ignorant of the format of stuff they are sending (MS, as usual, helps make it easy to send html crap).

      As to html stripping, I do this. When it is worth it. Unlike stripping email headers, which is remarkably easy and quick, stripping html is more touchy -- the difference between removing a wrapper, and scraping off excess mustard and ketchup with a knife.

      If we care about others, we deliver information as neatly and minimally as possible. If we are trying to show off, or profit, or we are just lazy -- html it, especially if ponies are involved!

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    20. Re:FTFA by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I guess I just don't agree that marketing is an illegitimate use of email. Once you allow that marketing is okay, then graphic design is one step behind. People seem to want pretty email, for whatever reason. Me? I never let external images through and I almost always choose "text" when presented with the option. Now that the default seems to be to block external images, it puzzles me that marketers still use them - graphic emails with blocked images are really, really ugly!

      I agree that it is annoying when they don't even provide you with the option of getting a text-only version. Mime even allows for both versions to be sent at the same time!

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    21. Re:FTFA by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      I guess I just don't agree that marketing is an illegitimate use of email.

      Agreed, and I never said otherwise. But I did say that marketers often move from text to html, or start off in html, because of economic reasons. I have seen that with CNet newsletters, Salon.com newsletters, Woody's Office Products newsletters, various quotation newsletters and I am sure others. The problem is that the switch is from information to impulse click, from text that is useful content to shiney buttons, from core competency to please-pretty-please-click-my-links so-I-can-up-my-click-count.

      Email is one of many ways to learn about others. If we met belly-to-belly, things like our clothes, posture, amount of eye contact, body odor (lol), etc. would provide clues to and about the other person. Today if someone sends me an email that is pure text, except for the SIG that is in html so that it can be blue, I have just lowered my opinion of that person one notch -- Leisure Suit Larry images come to mind. They went to all that extra effort, just to tell the world they like blue or should be perceived as bluish -- I just don't get it. [It could be justified if that is the theme of their web site/product and they are just being consistent.]

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    22. Re:FTFA by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      For some people, they are "messages from their friends" and they will go nuts if they figure out that actual junk was filtered as spam. Of course, lets not go too harsh, there could be people trading family photos like that and that 12 kb jpeg becomes really precious.

      Yeah, but like I said ... a well-trained copy of SpamAssassin seems to have no trouble discerning the difference. It seems most image spam has some kind of text or even HTML configuration that gives it away ... especially when Bayesian filters are coupled with RBL tests and some custom rules from e.g. SpamAssassin Rules Emporium. This diabolical new method of spam really isn't making it past my filters, for the most part ... and never has. No OCR required.

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  7. A Key Point by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a great article describing how it is formed, why it looks like that, what that is designed to trick, etc.

    The key point they're missing is that it works under the assumption that a very small part of the populace doesn't recognize this as spam. These people then think that an investment firm decided to tip everyone off and they mistakenly buy the stock so that it goes up a nickel only to watch it drop shortly after the spammer drops the stock.

    What's ironic is that I'll bet there's people out there with money that know this scam but buy the stock to also cash in on people who think this is a real tip. It might even be that the initial assumption is wrong and that the only people scamming each other are scammers trying to take advantage of another scammer's scam. Scam. Oh, the irony if that's the case. Either way, the article mentions the SEC removing stocks that went up that were junk stocks in spam mailings!

    It's a scam. Stay away and alert your loved ones if you think they may fall into the initial category of the small part of the populace. The safest way to stop spam is to alert people and teach them how to identify it.

    You don't buy stock that an angry fruit salad told you was hot just like you don't sleep with the girl who leaves dead spots of grass where she sits on the corner. Awareness is a valuable key to our solution against spam.

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    1. Re:A Key Point by garett_spencley · · Score: 1

      The key point they're missing is that it works under the assumption that a very small part of the populace doesn't recognize this as spam. These people then think that an investment firm decided to tip everyone off and they mistakenly buy the stock so that it goes up a nickel only to watch it drop shortly after the spammer drops the stock.

      Yeah, which is why a good rule of thumb is NEVER buy anything that was advertised to you via e-mail.

    2. Re:A Key Point by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

      just like you don't sleep with the girl who leaves dead spots of grass where she sits on the corner. Now he tells me...
    3. Re:A Key Point by fermion · · Score: 1
      It is not only that people don't realize it is spam, but that people do not realize it is an image. So accidently click the image, perhaps to try to copy text, and the link is activated, the browser appears, and the system infected before anyone realizes what has happened.

      The reason that image spam works is because advertising drives the web, along with people who want pretty fonts in their email, and so there are often no obvious methods to turn off image display. This is the same thing with flash. The developers have economic incentives to allow certain security risks, so those security risks are coded.

      If every email client had a text only setting, images and URL allowed only from certain users, then much of this could go away. In most cases, the images would never be displayed.

      At some point we have to accept spam as part of the consumer culture, and the 'free web', and realize that we are not really willing to do what it takes to make it go away.

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  8. The scourge of broken web sites by plover · · Score: 1
    Grr. I'd like to read TFA, but it's telling me to "turn the page". Viewing the source yields a commented out navigation section that contain broken links. The printable page is broken. Even the "mail this page" link is broken.

    I'd like to believe that the submitter of an article at least read TFA, but now I'm not so sure.

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    John
    1. Re:The scourge of broken web sites by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Informative

      Works for me. Must be your browser.

      Here is TFA for all those who can't read it in its current form:

      Image Spam: By the Numbers

      By Scott Berinato

      Image Spam--an e-mail solicitation that uses graphical images of text to avoid filters--is not new. Recently, though, it reached an unprecedented level of sophistication and took off. A year ago, fewer than five out of 100 e-mails were image spam, according to Doug Bowers of Symantec. Today, up to 40 percent are. Meanwhile, image spam is the reason spam traffic overall doubled in 2006, according to antispam company Borderware. It is expected to keep rising.

      1. GIF Layering

      Just as word splitting divides words into multiple images to elude spam filters (see number three), an image spam can be divided into multiple images. Like the transparent plastic overlays in Gray's Anatomy, pieces of a message are layered to create a complete, legible message. In this rudimentary example, the spam is divided into three pieces (cut in the middle of letters for added obfuscation). But one message could comprise as many as a dozen layered GIFs.

      2. Optical Character

      Recognition Duping Optical character recognition (OCR) is the closest to sight that computers get. OCR works by measuring the geometry in images, searching for shapes that match the shapes of letters, then translating a matched geometric shape into real text. To defeat OCR, spammers upset the geometry of letters enough--by altering colors, for example--so that OCR can't "see" a letter even as the human eye easily recognizes it. The effect is something like blurred characters in an eye test.

      3. Word Splitting and Ransom Notes

      If OCR catches up to the color tricks in image spam, a spammer's next defense is word splitting. By dividing the image and leaving space in between the pieces, any image the OCR engine is examining is only a piece of a letter with its own distinct geometry. Instead of word splitting, some spammers have employed a ransom note technique in which each letter in the spam message is its own image, and each letter image includes background noise and other baffling techniques. A program cobbles together randomized letter images to make words. The effect looks like a classic ransom note with a mishmash of letters cut out from magazines.

      4. Geometric Variance

      Many filters can intercept mass mailings based on their sameness. Images, though, can be altered easily without disturbing the message inside them. Thus one spam message will arrive as dozens of differently shaped images, and each time the colors of the text images will have changed, as will the randomly generated speckling and pixel and word salads. No two images are alike despite the fact that they carry similar messages. Shown are two radically different images containing the same stock tip. The technique is popular as a scheme to boost prices of low-value stocks. In March, the SEC suspended trading on 35 such stocks that were the subject of these image spam messages, including some whose prices rose.

      5. Speckling/Pixel Salad

      Confetti-like speckles don't affect the legibility of the necessary information but make every message unique to confuse a filter looking for patterns or high volumes of identical images.Similarly, a bar of randomly generated color pixels can contain the vast majority of the image data. To a filter it's full of patternless noise. We can see the words in the message while the image at the bottom doesn't bother us.

      6. Hyperlink Elimination/Word Salad/Animated GIF

      Filters have improved their ability to find and trace spammy URLs and then block the message based on the inclusion of a bad link. To get around this, spammers will ask recipients to type the URL into their browsers.Other methods include word salads, text passages, often taken from classic novels, to confuse Bayesian filters and weighted dictionaries that rely on complex mat

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    2. Re:The scourge of broken web sites by plover · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I got that one, that's the bit with the pictures. What I can't get is page two of http://csoonline.com/read/040107/fea_spam.html the actual article itself. I've even tried in an unmodified IE, no dice.

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      John
    3. Re:The scourge of broken web sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the second page is at the top, which is the link to all the image tricks they are using.

    4. Re:The scourge of broken web sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This Thread Is Useless Without Pictures!

      Oh, wait...

  9. Pretty easy to filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I send "Content-Type: image/(gif|jpe?g|png)" emails to /dev/null and pass the rest to spamprobe. After the inital learning of a couple of days, it's been 100% effective on image spam.

  10. Ideas? by lamarguy91 · · Score: 1

    Is there truly a way to stop this though?

    I know that I have embedded images in emails before, used hyperlinks, etc. All of my traffic was legitimate but is still falls within the same avenues of data transfer that spammers use.

    Beyond that, some of the funny looking "philosophy" I have received in my spam inbox (courtesy of gmail) is actually more well-spoken than some of the legitimate emails I've seen. (courtesy of the public school system)

    In short, it's obviously problem, but we seem awfully short on solutions.

    1. Re:Ideas? by Applekid · · Score: 4, Funny

      For starters, there's always hiring someone else to screen your emails for you. I wouldn't be surprised if there was already a service that you could join today and get your emails pre-screened.

      Spam filters are going to have to get to be as good as an informed human being before they can stop all spam regardless of what tricks they use.

      I just hope AI gets to that point before it goes all sentient... you know:
      "DESTROY ALL SPAM"
      ...computing...
      "SPAM COMES FROM HUMANS"
      ...computing...
      "DESTROY ALL HUMANS"

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    2. Re:Ideas? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I know that I have embedded images in emails before, used hyperlinks, etc.

      Shame on you, HTML email is evil. It is simply not fair to expect someone you're sending a message to to fire up an HTML renderer with all the system requirements and security risks that entails. If you want someone to read your email, make it easy for them. If I can't read it in mutt, it doesn't get read. Email is plain text for a reason.

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    3. Re:Ideas? by lamarguy91 · · Score: 1

      That was back in my AOL days when I was a teenager and it was the coolest thing on the planet. I've taught all the people in my family who use email how to use it, how to open attachments (properly scanned for virii), and well as getting my parents hooked on gmail (they love the read email anywhere concept).

      Wisdom really does come with age, so no shame on me... well, not anymore anyway ;)

    4. Re:Ideas? by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      Agreed. There is no legitimate reason to be using HTML email. None. Nobody wants to receive a graphics-heavy "newsletter". Nobody cares about image smileys, or that clip art that you just figured out how to use. It's a hideous breach of netiquitte, and it makes you look like the hotmail-using idiot you are.

    5. Re:Ideas? by Locklin · · Score: 1

      Can you provide evidence that the false positive rate of humans is better than that of good spam filters?

      You may be hard pressed to find that data.

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      "Knowledge is the only instrument of production that is not subject to diminishing returns" -Journal of Political Econom
  11. That's odd by techpawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I get through the article and realize it's from April... I feel so out of date.

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  12. tutorial? by Ozaark · · Score: 1

    "This is how quality image spam is made!" I hope we can all learn from this. Wait..

    1. Re:tutorial? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, they already know. Anyway spammers don't sit down and work this stuff out themselves, they use commercial "bulk mailing" apps designed for spamming that incorporate these techniques.

    2. Re:tutorial? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      See? I used to bitch years ago that email should be TEXT ONLY, but, no...we all want html mail and purty graphics.

      If we'd stuck with text only email....no problem with images.

      Oh well....back to trying to install Win 95 on an abacus.....

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    3. Re:tutorial? by frisket · · Score: 1

      we all want html mail and purty graphics

      Spam Assassin and Procmail are your friends. Anything smelling of HTML gets filed in /dev/null here unless I know the sender.

      And how nice of the spammers to write illiterate Russlish or Englihili: it makes Bayesian filtering sooooo much easier.

    4. Re:tutorial? by syousef · · Score: 1

      Except that HTML is text and images, and images can be encoded as text.

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    5. Re:tutorial? by HappyEngineer · · Score: 1

      I filter my email with a whitelist for stuff I want and then filter all email with "img " in them into the junk folder. Every now and then I skim my junk folder and it very rarely has anything important in it. It's probably the most effective anti-spam rule that I have.

    6. Re:tutorial? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      I use a similar rule but on gif and jpg as keywords. It also catches viruses that tried to disguise themselves as images.

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    7. Re:tutorial? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I see another problem. This type of spam is not Section 508 and W3C compliant.

  13. What about captcha-busting software? by vonPoonBurGer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lots of websites use the same techniques to obfuscate the little images used to differentiate real users from bot software. There have been lots of proof of concept examples of software that automatically "solve" these CAPTCHA images (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha#Computer_cha racter_recognition). If spammers move to increasingly complex image spam, I could see spam filters growing to include some of these algorithms, converting the images into a best-guess text representation, then subjecting that text to standard spam filtering. Even if the image to text conversion was only 50% accurate, I bet that would be enough to train up a modern spam filter like SpamBayes to recognize and reject the message.

    Of course, I just read all my mail as plain text, so this is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

    1. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I really believe that the first instance of a true AI that passes the Turing test will have grown out of spam filtering...

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    2. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless huge progress is made in A.I. "captcha" do work. At least for they were designed : to make sure at one point a human intervened in the process.

      So a captcha for a simple challenge ("type the word you see here", "click on the head of the lion then on the tea pot in the image you see") are actually very usefull. Bad guys can still steal the images and use it one one of their website saying "free porn here if you solve this" but this is only to target the biggest of the biggest site (eg to open lots of Yahoo! mail accounts) and it's mostly a urban legend... There are so many p0rn sites (they tend to rise exponentially) out there that the bad guy can't be sure he'll trick enough visitors in.

      Now, while good captcha works and that it has been proven that some captchas are *impossible to solve* without human intervention, bad captcha can be solved by using some filters / tricks / OCR.

      Spammers can't afford to use too hard to read text-in-an-image... So, yup, you're right: probably that moderately good OCR programs specifically allowed to defeat bad-captcha could work in the case of image spam to detect lots of spam.

      But don't make the mistake to think that good captcha are breakable. Good captchas are, today, provably unbreakable. Breaking, say, a good 3D captcha would be an advance so huge in the A.I. field that it would dwarf the fact that 3D captchas are broken ;)

    3. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If spammers move to increasingly complex image spam, I could see spam filters growing to include some of these algorithms, converting the images into a best-guess text representation, then subjecting that text to standard spam filtering.

      This is directly related to a realization I just had (you almost had it yourself.) Image-based spam is fucking brilliant but not just because it works. There is a secondary effect - a positive one for the spammers.

      Right now the strongest weapon in the defense against web spam is the CAPTCHA. Most of them depend on obfuscated text to defeat machine recognition.

      Spammers lack the resources to effectively defeat CAPTCHAs permanently through technology. Their current solution is to use a network of humans, ala Amazon Mechanical Turk, to solve them. Computers are simply bad at doing this, but this is largely because we have not figured out how to make them good at it.

      By using the same techniques to obfuscate spam as the rest of us use to create CAPTCHAs, they ensure that someone else will do the work of defeating text obfuscation-based CAPTCHAs in order to better recognize and classify spam.

      I'm sure I'm not the first to have this realization (at the bare minimum, spammers have realized it) but I think it's a pretty good one.

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    4. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by untaken_name · · Score: 1

      I am just waiting for the point when you'll HAVE to have a computer just to solve the fucking CAPTCHA crap. Is that a wavy black line set up to fool computers, or is it a wavy capital "I"? Nope, it's a lowercase "l". While I concede the benefits to service providers, I HATE those things.

    5. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by rolfc · · Score: 1

      Ther is clam antivirus with imagepatterns (http://www.msrbl.com/site/msrblimagesabout). It works quite well

    6. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by Graff · · Score: 1

      Yep, if it comes in as anything besides plain text I don't bother with it. I don't want my e-mail to be formatted in some odd way or to have tons of multimedia. I just want to be able to read the text. If there are attachments such as pictures, sound, or video I want to be able to save them where I want them and view them in an external viewer, after verifying them of course.

      Whoever it was that came up with the idea of using HTML in e-mails is a total idiot. If you really need formatted text then make a PDF or zip up a HTML page and send it as an attachment and ALWAYS have a plain text alternative so that your message actually gets read under all circumstances.

    7. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by laffer1 · · Score: 1

      "Right now the strongest weapon in the defense against web spam is the CAPTCHA"

      Lets fix this.. Right now the strongest weapon in the defense against web spam and letting blind people read websites is the CAPTCHA.

      If you offer an alternative, it is usually hackable by bots. It also slows down the user and causes confusion. I hate CAPTCHA. I think the development of CAPTCHA gave spammers the ideas to use these image spams in the first place.

    8. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by vonPoonBurGer · · Score: 1

      To be honest, I think CAPTCHAs are living on borrowed time, both as a method of distinguishing humans from bots, and as a method of obfuscating spam. Once CAPTCHA-busting software has gone through a few iterations and been integrated into a few spam filters, websites are going to have to find a new way to differentiate real people from automation, because the same code can be used to bypass bot detection. The solution already exists, it's called KittenAuth (http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauth). Spammers were simply lucky in that all the robot-detection CAPTCHA schemes out there worked on text. As soon as websites switch to non-text equivalents, such as KittenAuth, spammers lose the ability to borrow that technique to obfuscate their message. There's no way to turn stock pump 'n dump schemes or penis enlargement snake oil adds into kitten pictures. At least, I sure as hell hope not.

    9. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KittenAuth is a CAPTCHA.

    10. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Lets fix this.. Right now the strongest weapon in the defense against web spam and letting blind people read websites is the CAPTCHA.

      That's bullshit, because you can offer an alternative audio-based captcha to blind users. It's not the CAPTCHA that does this, but poor implementations thereof.

      Computers are even worse at recognizing voice than they are at text, so it's even going to be a more secure CAPTCHA. The only reason we don't give that one to everyone is that not everyone has audio hardware or wants to use it.

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    11. Re:What about captcha-busting software? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Even if the image to text conversion was only 50% accurate, I bet that would be enough to train up a modern spam filter like SpamBayes to recognize and reject the message.

      It doesn't even have to be that good. It's not like normal people are typing up emails in paint to send to me. If the image contains more than a line or two of text, it's probably spam.

  14. Use a manual rule to block it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Parsing an image, on the other hand, ain't so easy. "

    So use a manual rule to block these messages, discarding them on the basis of how they're put together.

    If *all* of the following conditions are met:

    Any attachment name contains .gif
    + Content-Type contains multipart/related
    + Sender is not in my address book

    Move message to "Junk".

    http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/12/20/another-mailap p-rule-to-catch-image-spam/

    1. Re:Use a manual rule to block it by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Just because the extention isn't GIF, doesn't your mail program still handle the file based on it's binary header? So, I could send a PNG or JPG or BMP or TIFF and, as long as you use the same viewer (in other words, the internal image viewer), it will open the file and use the logic based on the binary input.

      Layne

    2. Re:Use a manual rule to block it by JuliaNZ · · Score: 1

      That's a nice rule - actually just the "Sender is not in my address book" rule is now knocking out the last few spam that make it through to me. Instead of moving them, I grey them out in Thunderbird so I don't have to notice them until I'm ready (also, obviously there are a fair few false positives that need weeding out). It's working really nicely though, I don't have to pick the spam out of the email I want to read.

    3. Re:Use a manual rule to block it by lubricated · · Score: 1

      >>I grey them out in Thunderbird so I don't have to notice them until I'm ready

      how do you do that?

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    4. Re:Use a manual rule to block it by JuliaNZ · · Score: 1

      I'm using Thunderbird 2.0. First go and create a new tag called "Spam?" that's coloured light grey. Then create a new message filter: if "From" "isn't in my address book" "Personal Address Book", then "Tag Message" with "Spam?". All done.

      My complete rule also has a couple of exceptions, e.g. Debian Security postings are from all sorts of folks not in my address book, so I exclude those from the rule.

  15. A lot of time and effort for nothing by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    The reasonably simple filter (no OCR or anything) built into thunderbird seems to get pretty good results with image spam. The devious techniques they use to obfuscate clearly aren't worth the time or effort.

    And this assumes that once they get through any filters the recipient actually wants to read it. I'd have thought that the bulk of content based filtering happens at the email client. Anyone who'd set that up obviously isn't going to pay attention to spam and will just delete it anyway.

    1. Re:A lot of time and effort for nothing by Cedric+Tsui · · Score: 1

      Really? I've had the opposite experience.
      For a while, I had an unmoderated open student email exchange flowing straight into an account which I accessed with Thunderbird. That address got some 40 spam each day, and 20 of them (all the image spam) went right through the filters. There was no text other than the paragraph from Lord of the Rings at the bottom for the intelligent filter to have a crack at. I trained the thing every day (since I had to delete spam every day)

      However, including server side filtering seems to work wonderfully. I now get 1-2 per day on the same address. SpamAssassin has IP blacklists, which I believe is what made the difference.

    2. Re:A lot of time and effort for nothing by misleb · · Score: 1

      And this assumes that once they get through any filters the recipient actually wants to read it. I'd have thought that the bulk of content based filtering happens at the email client.


      Company wide (and service wide such as Gmail) spam filtering is getting pretty common and effective. I would guess that most people who have spam protections get it from their ISP, email service, or employer. Then again, I have never bothered with client-side spam filtering. Maybe it is just that easy to setup that average users are implementing it. Who knows?

      Anyway, people complain that the spammers are winning and are always a step ahead. And I just don't see it. I see them as getting desperate. Spamming isn't the get rich quick operation it used to be. It really isn't that hard to block 95% or more of a all spam at the server. Just turn on greylisting, a very simple and low resource measure, and you can say goodbye to about 70% right away. You'll just have to put up with a delay in new (first time a given person has sent to you) email.

      -matthew
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  16. Man. by feijai · · Score: 1

    Geez. That website is irritating as all hell. Instead of laying out the article in text and pictures, he requires you to click on the page eight times just to see the various little subareas he's constructed. It's like punishment for reading his page.

    1. Re:Man. by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      That's why God invented NoScript.

  17. It's a problem even if you don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just a quick note on this story. One of the important lessons of image spam is it's a problem regardless of whether or not you actually receive it in your inbox. As the print version of the story points out, most image spam emails are at least twice the size of a text email (and they are getting much much bigger than that). That means spam is clogging up pipes along the way. Also, it's hogging massive amounts of storage at companies that can't filter it well and backup/archive email and junk inboxes that don't get cleaned out. Also, it still gets through to many many inboxes, as the fact that the SEC banned trading on penny stocks that were part of a pump and dump image spam campaign points out. The question is, and will increasingly be, why are we trying to filter this stuff at the email server rather than on the backbone? To date, ISPs and backbone operators have been hands off. That's good. No judgment on traffic and what's "good" or "bad." But it's also bad--all this crap clogs up the network and leads to any number of frauds and scams. Watch--there will be more of a push on these guys to start making value judgments on traffic and scrubbing "bad" traffic like spam and suspected DDoS etc. That's good--less spam in inboxes, cleaner pipes, better service and reduced chance of fraud. That's also bad--who is Joe Backbone that he gets to decide good and bad packets and what if he makes a mistake?

  18. Funny, I haven't noticed by burris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Despite the best efforts of spammers, my filter is still highly effective. While I have received an ever increasing amount of spam over the last couple of years, my filter has kept it out of my inbox. Almost none of it gets through and my e-mail is as useful as it was 15 years ago when there wasn't any spam. I don't think the filter I use is anything special (SpamSieve for Mac.) People who suffer from spam problems likely aren't using anything at all or are using filters that are only for show, so the "has a spam filter" box can be ticked and not designed to be effective (i.e. the ones provided by crappy web mail or Microsoft and Apple mail programs)

    The biggest front on the war against spammers is simply educating non-experts on the existence of effective filters. Plus, we should be chiding companies like Apple and Microsoft for providing impotent filters. I think they purposely make crappy filters to avoid pissing off big companies (spammers.)

  19. Because it isn't just you. by khasim · · Score: 1

    No matter how careful you are, it is the other people that will compromise your address.

    Even if you only sent ONE message to Aunt Sally, your address is now on her machine. When she gets infected, ALL of the addresses on her machine are sent to the spammers.

    Then you start getting spam.

    1. Re:Because it isn't just you. by AlHunt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or, if Aunt Sally send you one of those bloody e-cards, you can kiss your e-mail address goodbye.

      --
      1 in 4 Maine children in struggle with hunger.
  20. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by WTBF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Every 4 to 5 seconds is not bad, I was hit by a similar attack.

    I run a webserver on my home connection, all it hosts is MythWeb, and it is password protected. I am the only person who should have to access it, and am on a dynamic IP address (not a problem I thought when setting it up, and have been very successfully using DynDNS.) About a year ago my IP address was changed to a new one, as it happens. My internet was going as slow as molasses about 10 minutes later, although I just thought it was a temporary thing with my connection. The next day it is even slower, and so I begin to investigate - I perform a speedtest and get very good results for download (but not perfect), but almost no upload. I thought this was odd and checked with my ISP to make sure there were no known issues with the connections in my area - there were not. So I then plugged my modem directly into my computer and it was still happening (which made me think it was something with my ISP, as it affected my router and my computer), and so I then clicked on my bandwidth monitor to see what speeds I could get, and before doing anything there was a constant stream of about 100kb-150kb of downstream traffic. And so I plugged the internet back through the router (I was running a software firewall by the way, so I considered bypassing the router safe).

    I then looked at my webserver logs, and it took forever to load. So instead I did a "tail -f" on the error log. I must have been receiving hundreds of requests per second for websites that were nothing to do with me. It was scrolling so quickly I could not read entries as they went past. Examining it more closely I realized what happened: the owner of the IP address before me had been running an open proxy on port 80, and when the IP address changed all their requests were redirected to me, killing my much slower connection (from all the 404 responses apache was sending). So I closed port 80 for a week, and my connection returned to a somewhat normal state. However, I was still receiving about 20 requests a second, despite being offline (seemed mainly to be people trying to do dos attacks through a proxy). After a month this was down to only 1 or 2 a second, and it has remained like that till today.

    Because of your post I checked my webserver logs, and at 1:27:18am I received my last request for a website, and looking into it my IP address changed to a new one (only took a year), and so some other unfortunate person is now receiving a few requests a second to be a proxy server.

  21. Interactive Graphic Page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think so. Sounds like image spam to me.

  22. Well that's neat by http · · Score: 1

    an excellent and short lesson. i've sometimes wondered about the particulars of image spam. i've never looked at one, having not enabled attachment viewing in my mail client (i got religion about best practice in email when i first learned about webbugs). clever gremlins, these spammers - never underestimate the intelligence of your enemies!

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    1. Re:Well that's neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is ap post encouraging people to RTFA on /. is something that should be applauded or chastised for being out of line?

  23. The more they try to fool the machines... by pdboddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... the easier it becomes for a human to pick it out. Anything that has a garbled or gobblygook subject is going to be spam these days. Anything in plain english, but forming nonsensical sentences is going to be spam. Anything that looks like someone copy'n'pasted from a book on english poetry is going to be spam. Those three rules alone should cut out most of anyone's spam. Then you can delete anything advertising fake rolexes, pump and dump stock schemes and OEM software. And offers of naked pictures and singles websites. That should about do it...

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    Julie Moult is an idiot.
    1. Re:The more they try to fool the machines... by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      An even better bet : anything that contains HTML tags that are not valid tags is very likely spam.
      Three or more invalid HTML tags in the same email - practical guarantee that it is spam.

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      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
  24. filtering image spam by secPM_MS · · Score: 2, Informative
    The simplest and safest approach is simply to read e-mail in plain text only. It is reduced functionality, but it works. Somewhat more dangerous, but apparently safe enough is to read e-mail in a safe html subset -- shtml, with images and multi-media rendering turned off. This is the default for Microsoft's Outlook and since the move to shtml several years ago they do not seem to have had any view and be owned issues. The image blocking blocks the image spam.

    Since it appears that Web 2.0 is all but synonomous with cross-site scripting as a feature, my default browser settings have all scripting and components off. A site gets into my trusted site list only if I trust it with my credit card or equivalently, allow it to install software on my system (such as Windows Update).

    1. Re:filtering image spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree, you've already been sent the image spam, might as well use its ugliness to identify it as spam and cut down your spam deletion time.

  25. As much as i hate to say this by blhack · · Score: 1

    I think that internet2 is a step in the right direction. It almost feels like internetting licenses should be passed out. If you are caught sending spam, or botnetting, your license gets revoked. I know that this is totally against almost everything that the internet is all about, but why the hell should i have to deal with:

    Wed Apr 25 19:31:56 2007 [pid 31219] [Administrator] FAIL LOGIN: Client "00.00.000.000"

    20,000 times in my log files?

    I know that botnets are composed almost completely of winboxes with oblivious users, but that actually is their fault. If i get into a car that i don't know how to drive, and my inexperience results in me smashing into your living room, shouldn't i be held accountable?

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  26. Huh! by fluch · · Score: 1

    Pine doesn't display those messages. What a pity. ;-)

    - Martin

    1. Re:Huh! by pdboddy · · Score: 1

      There *is* a perk to using a text-only email system. Though, my experience of pine is from the mid-90s, so I don't know if it allows HTML or imaged email nowadays. :P

      --
      Julie Moult is an idiot.
    2. Re:Huh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comment: My Antivirus (Avira) detected a trojan js in the front page of the sample page
      mentioned in article (from SCOonline).

  27. Where is Chris Hansen on this? by oni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What sort of a brain-dead moron would actually fall for spam?

    I wish that somebody would do a TV show like "To Catch a Predator" except that they would go after the people who buy spam. Embaras them a little.

    "Hi, I'm Chris Hansen from NBC. Why don't you have a seat there. Why are you here sir?"
    "uh well I, I'm here to see a friend."
    "You're here to have your penis enlarged aren't you?"
    "no, no, I'm just here to hang out."
    "Sir this is an email that we sent to you advertising penis enlargement. You clicked on this email."
    "omg, is this on TV??"

    1. Re:Where is Chris Hansen on this? by businessnerd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually I wouldn't be surprised if "To Catch that dumbass who responds to SPAM" is next on the list. They recently have done "To catch an ID theif." Actually a pretty interesting investigation. They confronted people who thought they had internet girlfriends/boyfriends who happened to also be shipping packages for their alleged significant others. These people were shocked and embarrased, but they then helped track the criminals by playing along for a little longer and shipping packages with tracking devices. It was really interesting to see where that package ended up and even more interesting when they tried to lure the "girlfriend" into another "lucrative business deal" followed by a "My name is Chris Hansen..." unmasking. Pure gold.

      --
      "It's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get." -- H. J. Simpson
    2. Re:Where is Chris Hansen on this? by wiredlogic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wish that somebody would do a TV show like "To Catch a Predator" except that they would go after the people who buy spam. Embaras them a little.

      ABC did this with 419 spammers. They actually went to to Nigeria and found a spam operation running there. They were able to contact some of the people who sent money and interviewed them to ask why they fell for the scam. Summary: the "victims" were universally dumb, poor, and avaricious. Definitely at the extreme end of the bell curve.

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      I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
  28. Fighting botnets by harry666t · · Score: 1

    A few days ago there was an article on /. about botnets engaging in "gang wars".

    I've got a crazy idea. Let's make "policemen" botnets, that would;

    1. Infect a "victim" machine;

    2. Remove all known trojans and viruses;

    3. Secure the machine;

    4. Spread itself;

    5. Keep an eye on the neighbours;

    6. In case of some botnet "gang war", try to compromise fighting systems and stop the madness.

    I think it might work... Strike them with their own weapons...

    1. Re:Fighting botnets by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is not a new idea. It is also not ethical.

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    2. Re:Fighting botnets by LordEd · · Score: 1

      I believe there have been a few viruses that attempt to do this. However, what gives you the right to invade somebody's PC even with good intentions? You are still cluttering the internet with your virus, and your virus is still using the system's resources to invade other systems.

      If you don't write your virus properly, then it may not self terminate or have side effects that are worse than the initial infection (failed patching, CPU hog, destroy OS).

    3. Re:Fighting botnets by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      I agree that this idea is old. I am becoming less convinced that this is a bad idea.

      Given that (a) such a preventative virus locks the door behind itself, i.e. closes the security holes that it uses to propagate, and (b) the existance of said security holes, and exploitation of them by those with nefarious purposes, then much of the argument against a preventative virus go away. Yes, you are using resources without permission, but see the legal concept of "hazardous nuisence"; others were using the resources without permission, and actively causing harm.

    4. Re:Fighting botnets by dlgeek · · Score: 1

      Your post advocates a

          (*) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (*) vigilante

          approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

          ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
          (*) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
          ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
          ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
          (*) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
          (*) Users of email will not put up with it
          (*) Microsoft will not put up with it
          (*) The police will not put up with it
          ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
          ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
          ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
          ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
          ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

          Specifically, your plan fails to account for

          (*) Laws expressly prohibiting it
          ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
          ( ) Open relays in foreign countries
          ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
          (*) Asshats
          (*) Jurisdictional problems
          ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
          ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
          ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
          ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
          (*) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
          ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
          (*) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
          ( ) Extreme profitability of spam
          (*) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
          ( ) Technically illiterate politicians
          ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
          (*) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
          (*) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
          ( ) Outlook

          and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

          ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
          ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
          ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
          ( ) Blacklists suck
          ( ) Whitelists suck
          ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
          ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
          (*) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
          ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
          ( ) Sending email should be free
          (*) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
          ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
          (*) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
          ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
          ( ) I don't want the government reading my email
          (*) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

          Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

          ( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
          (*) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
          (*) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!

    5. Re:Fighting botnets by harry666t · · Score: 1

      > (*) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.

      If there would be no stupid ideas, there would be no good ideas. If there's nothing that could be considered bad, how would you tell if something is good? Bad ideas are a part of ecosystem, they must exist in order for the ecosystem to keep the balance. Balance is a Good Thing(tm).

      > (*) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!

      Europe, Poland, 30 km away from any city, in a village that is not on Google Maps nor on any other maps and will never be, because it is fuckin' small and nobody cares 'bout it. And I'm not living in a "house". I'd rather call this place a "cave".

      Good luck seeking me.

    6. Re:Fighting botnets by dlgeek · · Score: 1

      It's a popular form letter that was used a lot on here about a year ago.

    7. Re:Fighting botnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kurwa, Gienek, ide do CIebie z flaszk!

    8. Re:Fighting botnets by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I think a better solution would be to just take the machine out. If the machine is dead, it's not going to send out any spam. Besides, the main reason why we have botnets is that the current crop of viruses leave the computer mostly operable so it can participate in the botnet. If people who have their computers infected start losing everything, they may start to wake up and start securing their machines properly.

      A nicer version of this idea might be to totally hose up Windows networking to the point where you have no option but to reinstall Windows to fix it, but leave the computer operable otherwise.

  29. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sadly you missed a great opportunity for some payback. This could have been your perfect chance to install Squid and have it redirect all traffic to Tub Girl!

    I can only imagine all these 31337 w1nd0z3 h4x0rs getting owned by Tub Girl, Goatse, or Lemon Party.

    Hell, I may open up a proxy server in hopes of luring people for a mass tubbing.

  30. Image spam should be easy to identify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For most people (yes, I know some people are exceptions), isn't the mere presence of an image attachment, a good indicator that it is likely spam?

    You don't need to "parse" or OCR the image. The existence of the image is what you need to know. If an email contains an image attachment and it's not from someone with whom you've already conversed, then it's spam. That sounds like an incredibly easy filter. 0% false negatives, 0.000001% false positives.

  31. pump-n-dump by Penguinshit · · Score: 4, Funny

    describes the multitude of summer camp romances in my youth...

    1. Re:pump-n-dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did your arm ever get tired?

      Did the dudes treat you right?

    2. Re:pump-n-dump by rrkap · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Coed camp or boy scout camp? Totally different mental images.

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    3. Re:pump-n-dump by syousef · · Score: 1

      describes the multitude of summer camp romances in my youth...

      You should have known those cheap realdoll knockoffs would puncture easily.

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  32. Yes let me just update the menu to reflect our new by kennylogins · · Score: 2, Funny

    portions:

    Eggs, sausage, bacon, spam, spam, toast, spam, chips, coffee and spam.

  33. Some pitfalls by Etcetera · · Score: 1

    We've been working pretty hard on implementing a useable OCR system at the ISP I work for. Not only using FuzzyOCR, but rolling some of our own algorithms to determine the likelihood of something being image spam.

    One thing we didn't expect -- and are still coping on working around -- was something very simple:

    Screenshots

    The more stringent you are on image/text spam, the greater the likelihood that you're going to create a false positive when someone emails an image with a lot of text in it... e.g., a screenshot of a word document or Explorer window.

  34. Image spam is easy by billcopc · · Score: 2, Informative

    I find the "problem" of image spam quite easy to avoid. I just don't accept any emails with attachments/images unless they're on my whitelist, because really... who's going to be emailing pictures to me other than my friends and family ? It's just plain retarded.

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  35. Look Ma! It's a tree! by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 1, Informative
    The scourge of spam?? How about the scourge of articles dressed up as an fucking tree control! Which is animated to add insult to injury. And no print button!

    This is, no doubt, Web 2.0 at its finest. I think I'd rather have spam.

    What's next? Articles written as directed acyclic graphs?

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    1. Re:Look Ma! It's a tree! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's next? Articles written as directed acyclic graphs? Don't make me...!
  36. AI research by massysett · · Score: 1

    This article is fascinating because it shows how the smallest things will utterly confound computers even as they are barely noticeable by humans. Computers are quite "dumb" in this regard. Maybe antispam will be the next frontier of artificial intelligence research. Which is kind of sad, but perhaps necessary.

  37. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not make Apache run on a nonstandard port, like 8080 or 8081 or whatever. That should help.

  38. Image Spam? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Informative
    If using SpamAssassin, subscribe to the SARE stuff and add this to your config:

    score SARE_GIF_ATTACH 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5
    score SARE_GIF_STOX 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5
    I've not seen an image spam since configuring the above. Updates are also automatic with the following cron jobs:

    0 4 * * * /usr/bin/sa-update && /usr/local/bin/md-mx-ctrl reread > /dev/null
    0 5 * * * /usr/bin/sa-update --gpgkey D1C035168C1EBC08464946DA258CDB3ABDE9DC10 --channel saupdates.openprotect.com && /usr/local/bin/md-mx-ctrl reread > /dev/null
  39. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by WTBF · · Score: 1

    I cannot get out from school to anything other than 80. Not even 443 works (I know this is stupid and broken, you tell the IT department this).

  40. Variety by Mazin07 · · Score: 1

    I find it disappointing that I haven't received all of the image types exhibited. All my spammers are boring and go with the random noise method.

  41. So how do you filter for them? by maillemaker · · Score: 1

    All of the spam I get is embedded-image spam.

    I don't get any legitimate emails that have embedded images in them.

    I would like to make Outlook move emails with embedded images directly into a junk folder.

    How do I do this?

    Thanks,

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  42. Terrorists using spam networks? by cpghost · · Score: 0

    It's funny how much people take things for granted. Do you sincerely believe that spam (and image spam) is about selling stuff? Come on! Spam is the covert channel used by terrorists to control their extensive network of sleeper cells. Why?

    • All the gobbledygook in the text portion of image spam is a complex code. In fact, it's steganography (some of this stuff may be hiding in the image itself - even terrorists need more bandwidth nowadays)!
    • By using botnets, they effectively annihilate any attempt at traffic analysis. The constant widespread stream of messages is the best way to hide real messages; and to hide any rise in control messages.

    Now let's send this to the Government, and see how fast CAN SPAM ACT will get revoked, and the spammers sent to Gitmo for "questioning"!

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    1. Re:Terrorists using spam networks? by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      Interesting. But sounds more like FUD than reality. Using proxies, darknets, and just ordinary Web sites (with obfuscated messages) is more practical. I don't really believe you are serious, but kudos's for an interesting idea.

    2. Re:Terrorists using spam networks? by cpghost · · Score: 1

      Well, I was joking, of course. But using dummy traffic generation to foil traffic analysis has been taken seriously. Add to this that inbound spam is ubiquitous, and that outbound spam botnet traffic is likely to get accepted as a valid excuse for something that's all too common ("what? me? must've been a virus on my PC!"), is it really so unrealistic to hide in the swarm? Damn, I should have filed a patent "An apparatus for piggy-backing secret communications on top of ubiquitous unsolicited commercial e-mail"!

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  43. GIF SPAM by geekmansworld · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems that a lot of image spammers have tried to circumvent newer spam-blocking technology by using animated GIFs: the first frame of which is blank, and the second of which contains the ad.

    For months, we had consistent problems with clients e-mails (using a major ISP I won't mention here) not reaching our server. Curiously, it would happen most often with replies to our original e-mails.

    After months of anguish and highly accusatory phonecalls to the ISP's tech support, we discovered the problem. Our company e-mail signature contains GIF images. When a client replied to us, quoting the original e-mail, the ISP would scan the e-mail, detect the inline GIF, and block the e-mail.

    Since we changed the format of our signature to use JPEGs instead of GIFs, we've had no problems with the ISP blocking client replies.

    So once again I assert: the biggest problem with spam isn't even the spammers, it's the n00b sysadmins who implement agressing spam-blocking rules before thinking about the consequences. I'd rather get more spam that have legitimate e-mails blocked by false positives.

    "The first thing we'll do is kill all the spammers..."

    1. Re:GIF SPAM by bruns · · Score: 1

      Images in signatures... *shudders violently*

      What a waste of bandwidth and resources.

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    2. Re:GIF SPAM by geekmansworld · · Score: 1

      It's called branding. Talk to our marketing department. Besides, I'm sure the extra 10K per messages isn't going to crash the intertubes.

    3. Re:GIF SPAM by bruns · · Score: 1

      Back in the day (heh), before the dot bomb age, branding used to mean having your own domain name for e-mail rather then having your employees use Yahoo or Hotmail webmail accounts :-)

      What it is, is 10kb of extra unneeded data. I'd rather there be 10kb more _useful_ information in that e-mail. Reminds me of when newbies used to have Outlook (Express) use thost stationary things when composing e-mail.

      Used to get these messages with a 400kb background image, 3 pages of unreadable forwarded crap colored in weird ways, and just the word 'LOL' at the top.

      Oh yeah, happy days those were.

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      Brielle
    4. Re:GIF SPAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the biggest problem with spam isn't even the spammers, it's the n00b sysadmins who implement agressing spam-blocking rules before thinking about the consequences.
      No, the problem is the moron users and executives who don't understand the medium. It's classy to use plain text emails and regular text signatures. Using HTML emails and image signatures, that make every employee an advertizing billboard, is not. It's ignorant, trashy and wasteful. Even more amazing is that your email policy actually bit you in the ass and you still don't get it . Instead, you blame the spam filters and the sysadmin (blocking spam reliably is a difficult technical problem). No offence, but if I worked at your company I'd be embarrased.
    5. Re:GIF SPAM by geekmansworld · · Score: 1

      Here we have another prime example of the problem. There seems to be a class of technical users whose response to technical education is the "No, STUPID" approach. The user asks, "Can I do this?" and the technician responds by berating of the user.

      My concern is that e-mail delivered to our server reaches our users, and that e-mail we send reaches our clients. That happens. We work very hard for that, and it happens, which I have to say I'm pretty proud of. If there are any other problems, it's on another server, and out of my hands. Now, call me crazy, but it seems to me that if you're a major ISP that caters to large numbers of common users, you probably shouldn't ban all e-mails that have GIFs inline. People are going to put graphics in their e-mails: smileys, footers, and whatever else, because e-mail is capable of such things.

      It is not the job of the people who run the systems to implement half-assed solutions and blame common user behaviour for the problems. Your approach to solving the problem is synonymous to a user phoning up Microsoft to complain about a Windows-based virus or trojan, and having the technician say: "Well the problem is Windows, you're exposing yourself to attack. Have you tried using DOS? Much fewer problems with viruses..."

      This unfortunate attitude is that pervades the highly technical population at large. It's the reason Linux has taken so long to reach even the tiniest level of market penetration on the desktop. Because the technical population would rather use the "No, STUPID" approach that sit down and say: "Yes, it's hard to get the right device drivers, here's how to go about it." or "Yes, you might have to tweak your installation of this program. It's not super-intuitive, but if you follow these basic steps..."

      As technicians, it's our job to help out those with less 5killz than us, not punish users for common behaviour. I am not a demagogue who holds the mystical keys to some arcane black majicks. I'm an IT guy, and it's my job to make our network operates the way the users expect.

      So, up yours STUPID. Have a nice day. :-)

      (P.S. - It's worth mentioning: since we work with publicly traded companies, even plain-text messages are often flagged by other servers as "stock spam", when in fact that are perfectly legitimate business correspondence e-mails. Perhaps we should start sending our e-mails with code words in place of anything that might be stock-related? I'm sure our customers will LOVE that...)

    6. Re:GIF SPAM by dkf · · Score: 1

      Our company e-mail signature contains GIF images. When a client replied to us, quoting the original e-mail, the ISP would scan the e-mail, detect the inline GIF, and block the e-mail.
      The easiest way, if you're insisting on delivering HTML documents dressed up as email, is to at least keep things like company logos on a webserver and just use conventional refs to the images. Not only is it something that spammers don't do (having a server up at a known address being trickier than splatting emails out of zombies) but it also allows client software to cache things like your company logo so that it only gets sent once rather than on every damn message. As far as I can see, no legit email ever needs attached inline images (i.e. ones that are referred to by cid: urls) so blocking them is a good thing.
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  44. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The vast majority of such traffic will be due to automated scripts spamming blogs and so forth. The script isn't going to be offended by shock images. At best, not getting the expected page might get you removed from the proxy list eventually if the programmer bothered to include that feature.

  45. Wait.... by frostoftheblack · · Score: 1

    Image spam works? Really?

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    1. Re:Wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was pretty much my response too. It's an image ferchristsakes, it might as well have "hi, I am spam, if you bother to open and read me you're a moron who probably fits right into our target market, so come on down" stamped all over it. Oh, wait...

  46. So what? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've almost deliberately exposed my email address all over the place, without the ridiculous antispam obfuscations (no "ninja AT slaphack DOT com" here), because I prefer not to use CAPTCHAS where I can help it, and that's just a poor-man's CAPTCHA.

    The reason? Simple:

    Statistical spamfiltering of any kind -- bogofilter, in this case -- is creepily accurate.

    Recently, I lost my bogofilter database (due to my own stupidity). It took one day for it to get back to 95% accuracy, and another day to get up to 99%, with one false positive -- the first I had seen in about six months.

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  47. I never see these. Here's why: by bcrowell · · Score: 1

    if ($spam_flags{'html_only'}) {push @refusal, 'The mail was sent only in html format. Normal practice is to send mail either in plain text format or in both plain text and html.'}
    if ($spam_flags{'image_attachment'}) {push @refusal, 'This address does not accept mail sent with images as attachments.'}
    if ($spam_flags{'not_current_to_me'}) {push @refusal, 'The address to which this mail was sent was not the current one given at http://www.mydomain.com/contact.html'}
    if ((!$spammy) && @refusal) { # Don't reply if it appears to be spammy; just send it to the bitbucket.
    my $body = "Sorry, but your mail to $to with subject line\n$subject\nwas automatically rejected for the following reason(s):\n".join("\n",@refusal);
    my $e = send_mail($back_to,'no-reply@mydomain.com',$body,' mail refused by mydomain.com');
    }
    1. Re:I never see these. Here's why: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whats your email address again? I've got a whole lot of spam looking email to send to your address with plenty of fake from addresses, just to fill up your mailbox with "WTF YOU SEND ME I DIDNT SPAM YOU?"

  48. Stock Spamm by Ep0xi · · Score: 0

    I receive about ten to twenty spamm a day mostly in image format this ones are a few from viagra vioxx and that stuff..
    But the interesting part is that the rest of it are
    spamm related to stock exchange and future results of stocks
    i never had the time to check if they are real stock bonds or fake.. but in case they are real bonds, i think that it is used to make you speculate on how will the prices go. someone knows about this or i am the only one who receive images with future prices of stocks shares

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  49. Damn... by $criptah · · Score: 1

    You mean those hot tips about emerging stocks were not secret messages? Dammit. I should have known.

  50. Ignoring the One Percenter's by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

    Sometimes the simplest solutions work best. OCR detection and Bayesian filtering will always be a cat and mouse game. I used to bounce spam, but stopped that when botnets became the main conduits.

    This may be a bit redundant for the type of people who read Slashdot, but I thought I'd share my views anyway. These are some of the techniques (suggestions) I use to avoid spam:
    -receive email from white lists only (where applicable of course, like personal accounts intended for friends only)
    -turn off HTML features in email clients (Web browser features in email clients are bloatware IMHO)
    -use the IMAP protocol to receive emails and set the your client to download headers only
    -never use your _main_ ISP email account (it's generally hard/impossible to change without dropping your ISP)
    -treat email accounts like passwords (think of them as being disposable and easily changed)
    -if you need a publicly displayed email address, use the same techniques that spammers use to avoid OCR detection, robots, etc (learn from the pro's, know thy enemy, etc)

    And of course the more obvious solutions:
    -use spam filtering programs
    -virus check incoming emails
    -never open attachments, reply, "unsubscribe", or click on anything, or go to any URL/link in a spam message

    If I wracked my brain I could probably think of a lot of other methods to avoid spam (like using email clients in sandboxes/virtual machines to try and avoid zero-day exploits). Of course if you use a "free" email account like Hotmail much of the filtering is already done at the server level, and generally you get what you pay for.

  51. Why not change IP address again? by KWTm · · Score: 1

    I feel your pain. I *can* get out from the office through 443 and 80, so I'm a bit better off than you. Some ideas:

    - Can you do anything at all as long as it's through Port 80? If so, try SSH'ing into Port 80 so you don't have an Apache webserver responding, but instead SSHd dropping connections. Then you can always tunnel through the SSH connection (ie. connect from you school computer to school_computer_itself:8080, but actually it's going via the SSH tunnel to home_server:8080 where your Apache server is waiting).

    - Otherwise, doing SSL through Port 80 (ie. making it act like a Port 443) might give you more security, but I guess it wouldn't stop script kiddies from connecting to it.

    But are you not able to change your IP address? For me, with my DSL modem, I can tell the router/modem to drop the connection, and when I reconnect a few seconds later, I've been assigned a different IP address. Not an option for you?

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    1. Re:Why not change IP address again? by WTBF · · Score: 1

      Only HTTP traffic is allowed on port 80, not even HTTPS. I have been able to sucessfully tunnel SSH over HTTP on port 80, however this is annoying and takes too much time to set up and has to be done on every computer everytime I want to access it (we cannot run programs officially, but we can do so but it is wiped when log off).

      I tried changing my IP address, I unplugged my modem for periods of time which grew longer and longer, but even after two weeks on holiday I got the same IP address. I asked my ISP to change it and they just said that it will change when their DHCP server decides to. The lease on the address is only 24 hours, yet when renewed it would always go back to the same address. That is why I had to wait a whole year before it eventually changed.

  52. Scourge??? More like a blessing in disguise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My email address is oooold (12 years to be exact), visible in usenet archives and inevitably gets tons of spam. Before image spam this used to be problematic. But now spam is pretty much self-labelling (email not in whitelist + image => spam), so life is good once more. And the minority of messages that get through are usually obvious from the weird characters / html in the title (I use pine).

  53. Re:For me it's not image spam, it's botnet traffic by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

    Installing squid to do that is just overkill. He's using Apache, it can be done with about 4 lines in a config file.

  54. For those on the left tail of the curve... by Foamy · · Score: 1

    ..."avaricious" means greedy and Nigeria is located in Africa.

  55. The rabbit hole goes deeper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The main culprit are your work-at-home-and-make-big-bucks programs you find advertised on TV late at night and such. This is increasingly so since computers, always on internet, and lazy people with spare time are often correlated.

    These programs are designed by people who work at so called "network marketing firms". You pay them half of your third mortgage, and they set you up with a turn-key virtual server somewhere (which you still need to pay for over time) and give you campaigns to run and leads to follow up on (or lists of people from which to procure leads). It's up to you to make that campaign make money for you, and most people get desperate when they find its not so easy to "be a viral marketing company" so they turn to private forums that trade email lists and get you in contact with spammers.

    Meanwhile the network marketing firm has your money, takes no risk, and is not responsible for the spam it's "independant contractors" are sending out, nor the bespoke Russian viruses and network of zombies the more successful of these employees are cooking in their own home businesses.

    Finally, it's the people looking to sell products who are also harmed. The network marketing company promises them the world, takes a check, and then forwards the campaign scatter-shot to their contractors. And that's all they do, besides interact with the customer on the contractor's behalf. Little firewall there...
    I doubt they give them any useful metrics, nor would they sign a performance-based contractor. They're looking for desperate small-time campaigns.

    Which sometimes are are the same independant contractors that work for the firms in the first place ... subcontracting out.

    It's a big clusterfuck.

  56. That doesn't work. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    It is trivial to overcome color variation issues: you use a perceptual transformation of the image data. For example, discard the hue, normalize the saturation and use it to weight the value. Or calculate the difference-from-background color metric. Or use a luminence-based edge detection algorithm (basically a convolution kernel). yadda yadda yadda.

    Yeah, that stuff's childs play. The real hard stuff is finding letter shapes that are difficult for OCR algorithms to handle, yet are "legible enough" for humans without disgusting them like some illegible CAPTCHAs out there.

    One technique I like is to use a 3d extruded wireframe version of each letter, but projected isometrically. Then you take the endpoints of your lines and arcs and jitter them, allowing line edges to cross or to become disconnected.

    The human eye is really good at picking out the letter outlines in 3d (especially since you have reinforcement of the front-face pattern with back faces) That extra information helps overcome the jitter.

    But OCRs of this generation focus on line corners and points of interest (features that are mostly scale/rotate and font-invariant) so lines that cross or end prematurely are particularly problematic for these algorithms.

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  57. Simple solution = whitelist by cdrguru · · Score: 1

    You get email from people you know and who know you. If you don't know them, it is spam. Period.

    This is pretty much how email is coming to be viewed these days. A company wants to send you an acknowledgement of an order and they can't get it through. Someone wants to ask a question about something, someone that you've never heard of - it must be spam.

    The problem is, it mostly is all spam these days. I get about 400 items a day. Our sales@ email address gets more like 1,000 and there are one or two real emails in there.

    When we can't send mail to customers (things like receipts) that are plain text because they are agressively filtering and we can't sort out the good from the bad on our end either email has pretty much reached the end of usefulness. While a whitelist essentially ends the utility of email completely, it does solve the spam problem 100%.

    1. Re:Simple solution = whitelist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Reflecting another poster's input: Whitelisting cannot work if your email address is highly visible...it doesn't have to be posted to the Internet. Examples:
      • Your email address is listed on your business card. You hand out your card to a potential client. They email you. You don't know their email address, so they aren't on a whitelist. The message gets categorized as spam.
      • You are on the phone with somebody (potential customer or whatnot), you ask them to email you (submit a resume, formal request in writing, etc..). Should you take the extra time to say "OK, what's your email address? I need to add it to my whitelist." ..? Especially if that happens on a regular basis.
      ..I suppose you could use keywords with your filters and just write on your business card "Please include 'x_MyCompany_x' in the subject line." and have your filter whitelist any emails with "x_MyCompany_x" in the subject.... but this is clumsy and unprofessional.
    2. Re:Simple solution = whitelist by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1

      While a whitelist essentially ends the utility of email completely, it does solve the spam problem 100%.

      99.99%. There's always the minute chance that a spambot will pick an address in your whitelist when forging the sender :)

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  58. Re:disposable emails by Kvasio · · Score: 1

    or use http://bogofilter.com/ in corespondence with strangers or while filling in the registration forms.

  59. I collect spam. by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    I collect spam to test my AI programs on. I have a bunch of filters that process images into different rpresentations - basically flagging matches to different patterns and building new patterns from combinations of existing patterns. I've experimented with bayesian filters on the output of some of my toys and it seems to work rather well. The filters might output a text string like:

    md5:16613765e1f9a23fe6244b90d9483e1f found:9 w:450 h:600 color:ddc3b2 color:decec3 color:d3bdaf color:debfab color:e5c2ac altcolor:d1ac95 black:21 text:"ASIANGIRLS . JP"

    This is pretty simplified compared to what the filters actually output but overall it provides a pretty good bit of text that most bayesian filters can do something with. The filters gather simple information such as the file md5, width, height, times file has been matched, average color, average grey value, color and grey value averages of common blocks, the same color and grey values for everything after the most common color is removed, text recognition, shape reconition, and keys for learned patterns of these different values that are recognized in the image. Other than the md5, width, and height these values change little when scaling, clipping, watermarking, changing fonts, tinting the image, etc. I've trained my filters on millions of images over the past decade and they really work pretty well although I'm always finding new improvements to make.

    My goal is to build an intelligent program that can classify and respond to visual input so spotting spam doesn't seem to far a stretch. I have trouble believing that spammers could generate a random enough image to fool the filters while still being usable to humans. Of course, the price is CPU time for the user but most of my filters don't use a lot of CPU time and bayseian filtering dosn't use a lot either so it's really not to bad.

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  60. Foil spammers for good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that everyone should respond to spam. I think we should all use our credit cards to buy loads of whatever they are selling.
    Then call our credit card companies and cancel/charge back.

    Some small percentage of the spammers will actually ship their junk before they realize they shouldn't. Most of the time it will just be an annoyance to the spammers. But it will always cost the spammers a discount fee, and the more charge backs, the higher the discount fee. It will ruin their credit.

    When spammers can count on 4 out of 5 orders falling through, it sure will make their jobs unfun.

    Pretty soon the spammers will have to start using captchas and such to make sure you are a real order and not an automated attack.

  61. Dumb spammers...? by BillX · · Score: 1

    There's the saying that a picture is worth a thousand words (bandwidth-wise, it may be accurate!). Non-spam marketdroids have been using evocative pictures to get their points across for countless years. Yet in every image spam I've ever received, the image contains only text--distored text, psychedelic colored text, garbaged text, text over confetti, text over random noise... I have yet to see a big colorful graphic of a Little Blue Pill cross my inbox.

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  62. There is Already an Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have been using Spam Arrest For Years and it's stopped millions of emails from reaching our SMTP server which in our case means a lot since it's a Satellite Connection.

    Thank You Spam Arrest

  63. Spam success not always defined by direct purchase by triclipse · · Score: 1
    Mortgage spam succeeds even if there is no "purchase" by the recipient. The spammer (and several layers of "lead generators") make money if the recipient simply fills out the form on the landing page to which the recipient is pointed.

    Before you go off on the idiocy of people who respond to these mortgage spams, take into consideration their victims. Many of these mortgage spams say things like "Thank you for your refinance request ..." etc. Victims include otherwise intelligent people who may not be internet savvy who are in the midst of a refinance. Imagine a grandmother or a person for whom English is not first language who has recently started the refinance process. Then they get one of these emails that pretend to be from someone with whom the recipient is already dealing, and respond to the link. Sure, they may think it a bit odd, but whatever. Within hours they are deluged with calls from dozens of different lenders and brokers who have purchased the spam leads.

    Now, I have no great respect for the intelligence of the average internet user, but I would just like to point out that someone can be intelligent and honestly duped by mortgage spam, but more to the point the spam recipient paid no money but the spam is successful. It is the middleman purchaser of the lead generated by that spam who is funding the spam.

    Of course I have no sympathy and little respect for that scummy level (usually multiple levels) between the actual spammer and the recipient of the spam lead, but I will also point out that the contracts between the broker making the call and the lead generating company that sold him the lead usually state that the lead was not generated illegally, is being sold exclusively to that broker, etc.

    I guess my point is that the economics of spam vary from product/service to product/service being spammed. Penny stock pump-and-dump schemes have very different economic mechanics...

    CC

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  64. Re:Yes let me just update the menu to reflect our by CCFreak2K · · Score: 1

    Don't forget the pixel salad (from TFA).

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  65. Re:Spam success not always defined by direct purch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still there must be some gain from those leads obtained via spam, or the middlemen would not bother to pay a spammer to get them leads that lead to nowhere.
    There is a "purchase" by the recipient after all, or else there is no profit.

  66. Greylisting is an amplifier by Dion · · Score: 1

    You are right, if you use greylisting alone.

    If you combine greylisting with a few realtime spamtrap-driven blacklists then the greylisting period will allow the spam to be caught by the blacklists and when they retry they get through the greylist, but get caught by the blacklist.

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  67. It's called a MAC address by slash.duncan · · Score: 1

    Frist psot with my new account =8^), tho I've lurked and occasionally posted AC for years.

    Your ISP is likely associating your assigned IP with your MAC address, as is quite common with DHCP, giving users that want a stable address at least a bit of stability. This seems to be particularly common with cable modem systems. Change that, and you get a new IP address. It's likely that easy. =8^)

    MAC addresses are normally hard-burned into the hardware (Ethernet and the like), and are supposed to function as a GUID (globally unique ID), so changing your NIC is one way to change your MAC address. However, there's often a way to set them to something other than the hardware MAC address manually. The idea is that a network may have configured a specific association (like IP address, or even permission to connect, some ISPs register MAC addresses and won't allow unregistered addresses a connection or give them an IP address, MAC address filtering is also very common on wireless networks, for security reasons) that may be inconvenient to change when you switch NICs or the like, and the ability to manually set a MAC address allows one to set the same one they previously used.

    How you change your MAC address, however, will obviously depend on what OS and/or Ethernet/other-connectivity drivers you use. Here on Gentoo, there's a network services module that combined with an app called macchanger, allows me to set my MAC at will, every time I bring up the connection on that interface. I have it set to entirely random, so if my ISP is tracking it, I might appear to be connecting with a multigigabit Internet backbone router one day, and an old 2 Mbit thinnet card or whatever the next, but that could cause problems if the ISP was relying on that for something, in which case I could just set it to randomize within my hardware type or just the specific NIC manufacturer. Anyway, with my randomized MAC address, I get a different IP address every time I reconnect (tho the computer keeps the same MAC and gets the same IP when I simply hibernate, aka suspend to disk). Otherwise, as yours, my ISP continues to hand people the same MAC associated IP for sometimes /years/.

    On MSWormOS, I believe implementation is left to the Ethernet driver. If your NIC driver implements manually setting your MAC, it should have such a setting in the appropriate properties tab. Else you may be able to set it in the registry, if you know what you are doing. I stick to freedomware (see the sig) these days, so can't give you much more on that.

    Routers often have an option to clone the MAC of a connected computer on the LAN to the WAN side, again, in case the ISP specifically authenticates in part by registered MAC address and won't allow changing it without calling them. Others let you set it specifically. Some, particularly those running OpenWRT or similar firmware, may allow fully randomized MAC addresses, much as I described I do with my Gentoo system above. You mentioned that switching between direct connect and using your router didn't change your assigned IP address, but it's possible that's because the router was already cloning your computer's MAC address to the WAN side, so the ISP saw no change.

    So anyway, try changing your MAC address. You'll likely get a different IP address that way. If you don't, the worst that should happen is they won't let you connect, and you change it back. Of course, if they associate the assigned address with the login info (PPPoE or the like) or MAC address of the modem, you'll still connect, but changing the MAC address on your computer or router won't cause the IP address they assign you to change.

    HTH,
    Duncan

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    "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master,
    and if you use the program, he is your master."
    R Stallman
    1. Re:It's called a MAC address by WTBF · · Score: 1

      I am on cable and the MAC address of the cable is associated with the account/IP, and if I change the modem then it will not connect. Changing anything within my network would do nothing. But anyway, as it changed by itself yesterday the problem is over.

    2. Re:It's called a MAC address by slash.duncan · · Score: 1

      I'm on cable as well (Cox), and the account is associated with the MAC address of the modem, /not/ the MAC address of the computer, which gets its own IP address.

      With some simplification, it works this way. (I talk about Ethernet below, but the USB interface is similar, within reason, of course.) They lock the account to the modem's MAC address. When the modem connects, after physically syncing, it asks for an IP address, of course giving the MAC address in the lower layer connection. If the modem's MAC address is registered, the assigned IP address (for the modem only) is a non-publicly-routable IP address (Cox uses addresses in the 10./8 range, but I'm not sure if that's DOCSIS specified or not, so it may differ elsewhere). That gets the modem online, but you can't yet connect, because your computer or router doesn't have an IP yet.

      The modem, still setting up, then requests such things as the TOD (time of day) and a config file. The config file will contain the settings for your account, including your allowed bandwidth caps, which the modem then enforces (this is why the cablecos are so insistent on controlling firmware and the like, it can normally be flashed only from the cable side, because it's the modem that does the actual capping), and certain modem-side filters (port 80 inbound, among others, on Cox, for residential accounts). One particular config file setting of interest is the number of customer-side MAC addresses it can allow thru. Often, this is only one, but it may be more, if the account policy is set for more (many cablecos sell access for additional computers, really, access for more than one MAC address, for an additional fee).

      If you have a Motorola Surfboard series modem (other brands have the interface, but lack the level of info on it that the Motorolas provide), surf over to http://192.168.100.1/ (which you may recognize is another non-publicly routable address), and on one of the pages, you'll see how many MAC addresses the modem has learned and how many you are allowed.

      Then, after the modem is configured, it turns on the bridging mode between the Ethernet and RFC side and lets whatever is connected thru to the cableco and Internet -- but ONLY up to the number of allowed MAC addresses. It will "learn" the first MAC addresses it sees, ignoring any others on the LAN.

      The caveat in switching MAC addresses should be apparent -- if you've already reached your configured limit (normally a single MAC address), in ordered to get your new MAC address to connect, you'll have to reboot the modem, because it learned the other MAC address and until that memory is erased, it won't allow any more thru to get IPs from the cableco.

      Once your router or computer is allowed to connect, it will ask for and get an IP address from the cableco, normally the same one it got the last time it asked for an address, based on the MAC making the request. If the MAC is different, you therefore get a different IP address.

      Thus, to force an IP address change, you change the MAC address you are using to connect, then reboot the modem so it forgets the old one and allows the new one thru. You should then get a new IP address. Eventually, the allotted IP addresses available for assignment will be used up, and the DHCP server will start reusing ones that aren't in use. However, that typically takes quite some time, because there's a significant number of "free" IPs, and because few people cycle MAC addresses. Thus, the system is likely to remember the MAC off your old Ethernet card you used a year ago, even tho it hasn't been connected since, and still give you the same IP address, unless of course you artificially set a different MAC address.

      That brings us back to where we were before, the problem of setting a different MAC address. It's easier on Linux (and I believe the various BSDs) than on MSWormOS, but it should be possible in any case, even if you have to get a new NIC to do it. A router should make

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      Duncan
      "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master,
      and if you use the program, he is your master."
      R Stallman
    3. Re:It's called a MAC address by WTBF · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I do not have a modem like that, mine is an integrated cable modem and router with two ports for internal and NAT on it, which is a pain. Therefore the router which I then connect to that gets an internal address in the 192.168.2 range, and then all my computers connect to that (using the 192.168.0 range). On my ISPs router/modem I have set up a DMZ to my normal router, and so is acting as much as a modem as I can possibly make it. This makes it impossible for me to change the MAC address of the first router, as it is completely controlled by my ISP (the settings screen I have allows me to set up port forwarding for three ports, dmz, ethernet port speed and the ip address of the router) and I imagine that it is the MAC address of the router part rather than the modem part which causes me to get the same IP (there are three listed on the bottom of the box: modem MAC, router-internet: MAC and router-internal: MAC). I cannot plug anything else in front of the modem either, because it is part of the router.

    4. Re:It's called a MAC address by slash.duncan · · Score: 1

      Ouch! I knew there was a reason I was uneasy about those integrated modem/router units! I hadn't gotten one mainly because I didn't want to have to replace both when I replaced one, but I was a bit worried about the flexibility in general as well. Now I see there was a reason to be. Unfortunately, that's not of much help to you. Hopefully, you won't need need to worry about it again for awhile, however.

      Well, maybe the info will be of help to others. I know I've followed from google and found of help a few /. threads over the years.

      Thanks,
      Duncan

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  68. noone has to buy spam to make it profitable by Walter+Carver · · Score: 1

    all the spammers need to do is convince naive bussiness men that sending thousands of unsoliced messages will get them profit.

  69. target (the) audience by chrish · · Score: 1

    I'm still a little surprised that people are stupid enough to buy things from spam. If it wasn't profitable, it would disappear.

    I think we're approaching this problem the wrong way. We should execute anyone who buys anything from spam. This would remove these "customers" from the email pool, and also increase the average intelligence of the planet.

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  70. Re:Spam success not always defined by direct purch by triclipse · · Score: 1

    No. The recipient of the spam never gives money. They give information. The spammer captures this information and turns into money by selling that information in the form of a lead. The person who buys that lead sells it again, and this process is often repeated another two or three times. But the spam recipient never parted with any money.

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  71. oh ? I got some here if you like .. by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    An image of 300 on 200 with a big blue pill; left and right of the pill are the brands which can be ordered online; It's still as annoying as the distorted texts; only more eye candy.

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  72. how safe is TinyURL ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    From: floyd@just-think-it.com
    To: myaddress@domain.com
     
    Please checkout the new version at http://www.tinyurl.com/8UjS21v2
    I sometimes receive spam spoofed matching some of the people working in the same company. It's a coincidence but still a nuisance. I also see in the logs multiple entries of bob, john, mary, any name; bruteforce attacked. Not to mention the o-so-many systems still accepting VRFY from any host over the world exposing any e-mail address and aliases by brute-forcing that company. In above example a spammer could have sent a mail from floyd@anydomain to anyone@anydomain. Which house-garden-n-kitchen-user will check the headers of such mail?

    TinyURL's are generally not known to where they go; I would rather like to see where I go to or atleast use my own judgement before I click a link; my PC's have not been infected with anything over the last 6 years *knocking wood*.

    Combine the two, how safe would this TinyURL system be?
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    1. Re:how safe is TinyURL ? by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      I quite agree with you about the obfuscation of TinyURLs. One of the downsides. But if one has an anti-virus, firewall and doesn't randomly type in their name & pw everywhere they go -- what is the worst that can happen?

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