Adobe cares about their professional customers and those people are having Quad or Dual G5 workstations with massive SCSI arrays etc right now.
I am speaking about Photoshop CS type of applications.
Professionals does not throw out $20k mission critical workstations because Steve Jobs became Intel fanboy recently.:)
Adobe listens to their professional consumers and I seriously suspect if they will rush a "mactel binary" because couple of Macbook "Pro" users wanted it.
I am getting sick of pure mac zealots praising Intel since WWDC announcement.
I also see you pay $100 yearly to.Mac service and you claim the parent being "devotee".
Apple does not announce professional workstation line because there is NOTHING from x86 (Intel) to have Quad G5 specs right now.
People becoming Intel fanatic after WWDC calling concerned Quad G5 owners make me sick indeed.
You call a 64 bit, RISC processor having vector processing unit several year old design... When will Intel reach Altivec specs? SSE3?
Please don't comment about professional workstations, they have nothing to do with your consumer grade shareware applications or games.
Did you watch World Cup Excerpts? Quad G5 is designed for such usage and those people using them does not come to slashdot to comment.
Apple kinda gave up the computer business, they offer stylish Intel whiteboxes with some stylish OS to keep the "computer company" image. You really want the truth? Quad G5 is the LAST true Macintosh coming from Apple.
Rest are locked down, DRM chip having Intel white box crap. You use x86 generic computer and you can't even decide what brand of x86 to use.
Want more truth? I bet you bought a "macbook" pro (!), there is a multiplatform game in hand "World Of Warcraft" which is coded by Blizzard. Use bootcamp , run game on both OS'es and compare fps.
Let me give you a live example about what kind of people use google and why: (SITE NOT BUSINESS/KID SAFE!)
Re: http://herbalshop-4-u.blog/ spot.com/ (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam) To: abuse@google.com (refuses to accept this type of report) (space added to prevent click)
I wonder if they share the $$$ too.:)
That is not exactly related to article but it may give a clue why people started to ignore google ads.
I don't say doubleclick is a very nice company but I have never seen doubleclick advertising ILLEGAL content or ignoring ILLEGAL content advertisement abuse reports.
They are much more serious company having policies. They even implemented opt-out cookie which allows people to stop their cookies unlike Google keeping them until 2038.
They keep ignoring my abuse reports, I keep ignoring them. I seriously didn't buy a software title I needed since I thought it was one of those fake, open source stealing companies. It started to give that feeling,very bad for advertisers.
I have never seen doubleclick or other major advertisers ads on legally questionable sites. That is what I observe.
Thanks for not misunderstanding. Like you say, it is kind of "pyramid scheme". There must be a very unique feature in Jabber to convince them to switch.
The problem is, you can't find that feature.
What I say is, GAIM having multiple protocols gives people a false sense of comfort and kinda takes the potential geek support from Jabber protocol. I am using a stable but not so pretty as Adium client now and I live that false sense too.
The only thing Google did right was implementing Jabber protocol for their users. Perhaps one day Google with millions of users will convince people at ISP/Corparate Server level to try Jabber at least.
Remember FreeBSD'es greatest proof of stability was Yahoo.com running it. Still is. If someone asks "how seriously managed this OS?" , you reply "Apple OS X runs on it and Yahoo uses it".
We can't blame Average Joe. If they (and their ISPs!) didn't hear about Jabber, it is somehow Jabber's fault.
I really wonder if all ISPs know about Jabber.
I wonder why Jabber community doesn't work with Tipic corp. (http://www.tipic.com ) to implement video/audio chat to jabber? Because they are closed source? Well, their server and client are closed source but they are using open standards.
Look what it says:
Tipic Voip/audio implementation is based on the following Open Source projects:
So, they managed to make a open standards based video chat. Problem is, the geek community sees videochat as "lame". Well, average people LOVE it.
I wonder how many people congratulated them for implementing such a thing on Jabber?
I bet that Average Joe would use Jabber if it performs much better on video chat. That is the "geek vs average user" thing hurting open standards as usual.
Who used Mozilla while it was a total geek thing? How many average, non techie people use Firefox because it performs better and promises more security than IE?
Remember people blamed average Joe not using Mozilla giant instead of IE. Who's fault was that than?
Look to another example. Gizmo project is completely open source, not coded by guys who coded Kazaa and completely open standards based. It has many non techie, non geek users. Do you think they are impressed by GPL, RMS and open standards? No, Gizmo sounds better than Skype, that is all:)
If you don't have problem with closed source you should try stuff like Tipic.com , Jabber.com messengers.
They are very nice written stuff but ignored by people saying they (clients) are "closed source". Well, they can't open the source but you know Jabber is an open standard at last.
Just if they managed to ship it for OS X... iChat can't be an excuse, it has very simple jabber support. Well, thanks to Apple anyway. They didn't HAVE TO do it.
Instead of supporting open and standard protocols, GAIM people live in a pseudo "all in one" World suggesting everyone to use a third party client.
I have no problem with GAIM developers, I just say packet sniffing and trying to figure what is happening with commercial,closed source client to closed network won't produce a 100% compatible thing. People should admit it. I am not even going into stuff like EULAs broken.
The problem here is the Microsoft. They have no API of any kind. If you go deeper you will figure GAIM and other libs can't support the latest MSN protocol.
There is a open standard which will be the default IM (presence in fact) protocol in Internet 2: Jabber.
Of course Jabber community and developers are making mistakes as experimenting CVS in jabber.org server which everyone recommends, not supporting companies like Tipic Inc who managed to make fortune 500 companies/ US Govt. use Jabber because they are "closed source" and not coming up with a package to be easily installed on Windows/OS X allowing people to setup their OWN jabber server. I speak about point and click install using the native OS methods like.pkg for OS X and.msi for Windows.
As I can't deal with complexity of running 3 separate IM products (would lose my mind), I use something open source and native in OS X even donating it for "morale" but it doesn't change my mind. We should PUSH these companies to open their API completely or support Jabber.
Look, Apple supports Jabber with a little feedback from community and added jabber functionality to their iChat. Google uses Jabber too (with extensions). I think we should find a way to convince ordinary end users to use Jabber but how? There should be something offered as bonus or a very good reason and it should be Joe Sixpack understandable...
He could be talking about Google adwords and their zero administration policy. They recently got sued and lost by Louis Vouitton (fashion company) for example.
They accepted people selling that companies fake products to give advertisement.
I am always into OS X community sites, some managed very good and couple of times I saw stolen opensource software ads claiming they can run Vista on OS X. If you logon to that sites forum and claim something like that, they will joke with you and ban you (even your IP) from their forums. If that is "AdSense", it is untouchable.
I sometimes go to Windows based tech sites and see amazing crooks ads coming from Google too. Those fake spyware removers, so called "OEM software" etc.
What about this:
1) Piracy forum advertises their site using Google Groups to Usenet to big5 group
2) Click to site URL (with a secure browser), you see they have Google ads
You report them to Google groups AND Google Adsense: Nothing happens. In fact, spammer openly laughs at you.
That was not a serious thing? Well, BSA didn't see that way...
I started to stay away from their Ads but I am not boycotting the sites having their ads. I try to be positive and tell them to find a more legit advertiser.
The point is: Try putting a doubleclick.com advertisement to a pirate site, see what happens next. But doubleclick is "evil" their cookies shouldn't be accepted even (!) , Google is somehow "good", I have no clue how this is happening. I must be stupid.
Note many sites fixed their stolen icons after figuring it out. Yes, it is usually a burglar single webmaster to blame. I personally know one of them got fired who should knaw Panic Inc. and Transmit icon 6 months ago because of the site he "designs".
BTW if you don't use OS X, don't get tricked by how eye candy and easy looking those programs are. They are eye candy code wise too. It is not like "code must suck so they made it look beautiful". They are very advanced, elite coded modern applications which really fits good to year 2006 and the OS X they run on.
You have a clue about how HUGE thing it will be if they manage to make a electronic device comparable to a real book?
E-Ink is a huge thing and first time an e-ink consumer product ships outside Japan.
They aren't trying to sell it to you on purpose, it is PRODUCT page. They are a commercial company and they of course have buy now in their product page. Sun's MAINFRAME class product pages have "buy now" links too.
This is Internet, not some communist country. Try to live with it. 99% of Slashdot userbase (including me) will say "bleh, still expensive" and move on. Having "Buy now"' link doesn't FORCE you to buy it you know?
I am watching E-Ink news personally for 2 years since that is the future for real tablet PC, not some BillG personal utopic toy.
Recently stuff offered to USA and Canada only has started bothering people as they see it as a way of "We don't give a f to you" attitude.
For example I know it is not only Apple to blame but iTunes Greece store existing and there is no iTunes Turkey store while countries has similar markets (wonder where enemy brothers term come from?) makes you think like "Oh well, Apple doesn't give a heck to our country" and get eMusic.com subscription.
Same goes for Rhapsody of Real Networks.; You see story on Slashdot, immediately click the URL with a list of rare stuff you have in your mind, you see "Available to USA only". It is like you go to a store and a bodyguard pushes you out because where you live.
I hope I could explain the background of "Why not available to my country?!" types of postings a bit.
btw, I know it is RIAA to blame for those "music" stores.
It says it is not a banking institution. So, it has lower rates and has "Google" in its name.
No other difference from Paypal?
It seems they use their brand value and lower rates against Paypal. Hope we won't have another Google Groups in hand since this thing is purely related to real life money.
On Google Groups, you can pollute usenet with any kind of criminal scams, pyramid schemes and they send "Google does not censor groups" type of "we don't care" message in politically correct way. Deja could handle abuse while usenet was really huge compared to today but as a billion dollar company they can't.
I hope they start working with Spamcop.net , Antiphishing.org and fraudwatchinternational.com right now. I hope they recorded all their URLs/IPs as interested parties and we (reporting users) don't see "ISP does not want to receive reports regarding" type of stuff at spamcop.net as first days of Paypal.
I have no clue why donations are almost begged. If it requires such money how can EF , DAL like networks survive?
I mean people are free to donate of course but I don't get what happens to amazing money that gets donated./lusers (of this time) There are 12304 listed and 12842 unlisted users on 20 servers
That is a SMALL network compared to DAL/IRCnet/EF.
Here is IRCnet of exact same minute, now that is a real large network./lusers There are 97459 users and 5 services on 35 servers
I have never seen some donation begging etc on those servers.
If a networks founder gets/ignored by its users, something is definitely wrong.
BTW, of course attacking to a network which is house of many open source projects is a lowest one can get.
Even if he globally announces, FreeNode regulars won't see it.
Don't ask why;)
PS: Have fun in jail since FreeNode isn't only about "lilo", there are many different kinds of people in some channels. I bet there are even Livejournal admin level guys who got effected by this lame thing. If you are trolling... Well, you shouldn't.;)
Their Quicktime division is "evil" but for this thing you can't blame them. To install iTunes for windows you really need Quicktime since most of that download is Quicktime framework for windows itself.
Quicktime Player.exe , that thing is just a small wrapper. iTunes is entirely quicktime.
The "tray" application? Blame the coder of OS it works in. As long as they compete in mafia ways by stealing extensions from programs, both Apple and Realnetworks will have those "lets see if windows media player stole my extensions at boot" applications at startup.
I say "Thank God" to no bundle possibility since DivX player 6.x+ EULA says they CAN install stuff like third party browser bundles and you can't sue/blame them for it. On an interesting platform you can be technically shot dead to use "Spyware for OS X" term by its fanatic users, it has 442,261 downloads (just on versiontracker) and counting.
With that EULA...
Reason for calling Quicktime division "evil" with legit reasons? One of reasons could be this. Quicktime 7 can install and run on Windows 2000 with latest service pack. It needs OS X 10.3.9 minimum to install on Mac. Guess the reason?:)
I am not a Google user and Adobe can't dare to bundle anything with programs my segment uses. Also I am on OS X , thank God there is no "toolbar mechanism" on OS X (yet!)
Why I am reading story and comments? For my entertainment...
Some people were really bugged by Adobe displaying tiny banners in their "Reader", a thing which they give freely. It was plugging into MS Office or something. As this is Google, nobody gets bugged by a "toolbar" (seen its privacy policy?!) coming with Adobe applications and even defend this decision.
If there would be a really useful toolbar I'd like to install BY MY CHOICE on OS X it would be Yahoo toolbar. They were one of the first ones used the concept and it is really useful. Especially bookmarks storage on server. I can imagine what would happen on Slashdot if they made the huge error (!) of bundling that instead.
Keep this hypocrisy;) Of course this is a type of comment you need to post with "karma bonus"
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Apple? AMD?
You miss the fact that Apple locked itself to Intel brand.
Those Intel guys speaking in conference, cheesy games like not supporting Firewire 800 because people still see USB2 as a joke...
If you want AMD from Apple, I don't think it will happen.
Adobe cares about their professional customers and those people are having Quad or Dual G5 workstations with massive SCSI arrays etc right now.
:)
I am speaking about Photoshop CS type of applications.
Professionals does not throw out $20k mission critical workstations because Steve Jobs became Intel fanboy recently.
Adobe listens to their professional consumers and I seriously suspect if they will rush a "mactel binary" because couple of Macbook "Pro" users wanted it.
I am getting sick of pure mac zealots praising Intel since WWDC announcement.
.Mac service and you claim the parent being "devotee".
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I also see you pay $100 yearly to
Apple does not announce professional workstation line because there is NOTHING from x86 (Intel) to have Quad G5 specs right now.
People becoming Intel fanatic after WWDC calling concerned Quad G5 owners make me sick indeed.
You call a 64 bit, RISC processor having vector processing unit several year old design... When will Intel reach Altivec specs? SSE3?
Please don't comment about professional workstations, they have nothing to do with your consumer grade shareware applications or games.
Did you watch World Cup Excerpts? Quad G5 is designed for such usage and those people using them does not come to slashdot to comment.
Apple kinda gave up the computer business, they offer stylish Intel whiteboxes with some stylish OS to keep the "computer company" image. You really want the truth? Quad G5 is the LAST true Macintosh coming from Apple.
Rest are locked down, DRM chip having Intel white box crap. You use x86 generic computer and you can't even decide what brand of x86 to use.
Want more truth? I bet you bought a "macbook" pro (!), there is a multiplatform game in hand "World Of Warcraft" which is coded by Blizzard. Use bootcamp , run game on both OS'es and compare fps.
Also read some sites like http://www.power.org/about/faq/ before claiming PowerPC is old arch.
Oh check this too: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype
As there are no Mactel folding@home right now, I wonder how Team Mac OS X is number 11 with these "old" CPUs
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype
Let me give you a live example about what kind of people use google and why: (SITE NOT BUSINESS/KID SAFE!)
:)
Re: http://herbalshop-4-u.blog/ spot.com/ (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)
To: abuse@google.com (refuses to accept this type of report) (space added to prevent click)
I wonder if they share the $$$ too.
That is not exactly related to article but it may give a clue why people started to ignore google ads.
I don't say doubleclick is a very nice company but I have never seen doubleclick advertising ILLEGAL content or ignoring ILLEGAL content advertisement abuse reports.
They are much more serious company having policies. They even implemented opt-out cookie which allows people to stop their cookies unlike Google keeping them until 2038.
They keep ignoring my abuse reports, I keep ignoring them. I seriously didn't buy a software title I needed since I thought it was one of those fake, open source stealing companies. It started to give that feeling,very bad for advertisers.
I have never seen doubleclick or other major advertisers ads on legally questionable sites. That is what I observe.
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Thanks for not misunderstanding. Like you say, it is kind of "pyramid scheme". There must be a very unique feature in Jabber to convince them to switch.
The problem is, you can't find that feature.
What I say is, GAIM having multiple protocols gives people a false sense of comfort and kinda takes the potential geek support from Jabber protocol. I am using a stable but not so pretty as Adium client now and I live that false sense too.
The only thing Google did right was implementing Jabber protocol for their users. Perhaps one day Google with millions of users will convince people at ISP/Corparate Server level to try Jabber at least.
Remember FreeBSD'es greatest proof of stability was Yahoo.com running it. Still is. If someone asks "how seriously managed this OS?" , you reply "Apple OS X runs on it and Yahoo uses it".
What if Jabber, an open standard can't make to end users and companies? Look what is coming:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=micros
That is the issue...
We can't blame Average Joe. If they (and their ISPs!) didn't hear about Jabber, it is somehow Jabber's fault.
:)
I really wonder if all ISPs know about Jabber.
I wonder why Jabber community doesn't work with Tipic corp. (http://www.tipic.com ) to implement video/audio chat to jabber? Because they are closed source? Well, their server and client are closed source but they are using open standards.
Look what it says:
Tipic Voip/audio implementation is based on the following Open Source projects:
- http://iaxclient.sf.net/ Basic VOIP stack. Tipic added video, wideband audio and support for echo cancellation.
- http://www.speex.org/ Default audio Codec. Tipic sponsored the echo cancellation improvements.
- http://www.theora.org/ Default Video Codec.
- http://www.libsdl.org/ Video visualizzation in TipicIM.
So, they managed to make a open standards based video chat. Problem is, the geek community sees videochat as "lame". Well, average people LOVE it.
I wonder how many people congratulated them for implementing such a thing on Jabber?
I bet that Average Joe would use Jabber if it performs much better on video chat. That is the "geek vs average user" thing hurting open standards as usual.
Who used Mozilla while it was a total geek thing? How many average, non techie people use Firefox because it performs better and promises more security than IE?
Remember people blamed average Joe not using Mozilla giant instead of IE. Who's fault was that than?
Look to another example. Gizmo project is completely open source, not coded by guys who coded Kazaa and completely open standards based. It has many non techie, non geek users. Do you think they are impressed by GPL, RMS and open standards? No, Gizmo sounds better than Skype, that is all
If you don't have problem with closed source you should try stuff like Tipic.com , Jabber.com messengers.
They are very nice written stuff but ignored by people saying they (clients) are "closed source". Well, they can't open the source but you know Jabber is an open standard at last.
Tipic has even open standard based video: http://www.tipic.com/tipicim
Just if they managed to ship it for OS X... iChat can't be an excuse, it has very simple jabber support. Well, thanks to Apple anyway. They didn't HAVE TO do it.
Instead of supporting open and standard protocols, GAIM people live in a pseudo "all in one" World suggesting everyone to use a third party client.
.pkg for OS X and .msi for Windows.
I have no problem with GAIM developers, I just say packet sniffing and trying to figure what is happening with commercial,closed source client to closed network won't produce a 100% compatible thing. People should admit it. I am not even going into stuff like EULAs broken.
The problem here is the Microsoft. They have no API of any kind. If you go deeper you will figure GAIM and other libs can't support the latest MSN protocol.
There is a open standard which will be the default IM (presence in fact) protocol in Internet 2: Jabber.
Of course Jabber community and developers are making mistakes as experimenting CVS in jabber.org server which everyone recommends, not supporting companies like Tipic Inc who managed to make fortune 500 companies/ US Govt. use Jabber because they are "closed source" and not coming up with a package to be easily installed on Windows/OS X allowing people to setup their OWN jabber server. I speak about point and click install using the native OS methods like
As I can't deal with complexity of running 3 separate IM products (would lose my mind), I use something open source and native in OS X even donating it for "morale" but it doesn't change my mind. We should PUSH these companies to open their API completely or support Jabber.
Look, Apple supports Jabber with a little feedback from community and added jabber functionality to their iChat. Google uses Jabber too (with extensions). I think we should find a way to convince ordinary end users to use Jabber but how? There should be something offered as bonus or a very good reason and it should be Joe Sixpack understandable...
http://360.yahoo.com/ ;)
I heard NASA bids high for 1960's 16mm cameras on eBay to shoot those scenes again. :)
Well tell you a funnier thing, there is a mystery domain Yahoo gives as example for domain name for months:
:)
(ex. widgetdesigns.com)
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/ says "(ex. widgetdesigns.com)"
What is this recent obsession with "Widget" as imaginary domain?
He could be talking about Google adwords and their zero administration policy. They recently got sued and lost by Louis Vouitton (fashion company) for example.
They accepted people selling that companies fake products to give advertisement.
I am always into OS X community sites, some managed very good and couple of times I saw stolen opensource software ads claiming they can run Vista on OS X. If you logon to that sites forum and claim something like that, they will joke with you and ban you (even your IP) from their forums. If that is "AdSense", it is untouchable.
I sometimes go to Windows based tech sites and see amazing crooks ads coming from Google too. Those fake spyware removers, so called "OEM software" etc.
What about this:
1) Piracy forum advertises their site using Google Groups to Usenet to big5 group
2) Click to site URL (with a secure browser), you see they have Google ads
You report them to Google groups AND Google Adsense: Nothing happens. In fact, spammer openly laughs at you.
That was not a serious thing? Well, BSA didn't see that way...
I started to stay away from their Ads but I am not boycotting the sites having their ads. I try to be positive and tell them to find a more legit advertiser.
The point is: Try putting a doubleclick.com advertisement to a pirate site, see what happens next. But doubleclick is "evil" their cookies shouldn't be accepted even (!) , Google is somehow "good", I have no clue how this is happening. I must be stupid.
Designing a piece of art icon has some consequences. If you check Transmit icon there even if you don't use OS X, it will look familiar to you.
http://www.panic.com/transmit/
That thing is one of the most stolen icons of all time. They even put a page dedicated to "rip off"
http://www.panic.com/extras/ripoff/
Note many sites fixed their stolen icons after figuring it out. Yes, it is usually a burglar single webmaster to blame. I personally know one of them got fired who should knaw Panic Inc. and Transmit icon 6 months ago because of the site he "designs".
BTW if you don't use OS X, don't get tricked by how eye candy and easy looking those programs are. They are eye candy code wise too. It is not like "code must suck so they made it look beautiful". They are very advanced, elite coded modern applications which really fits good to year 2006 and the OS X they run on.
You have a clue about how HUGE thing it will be if they manage to make a electronic device comparable to a real book?
E-Ink is a huge thing and first time an e-ink consumer product ships outside Japan.
They aren't trying to sell it to you on purpose, it is PRODUCT page. They are a commercial company and they of course have buy now in their product page. Sun's MAINFRAME class product pages have "buy now" links too.
This is Internet, not some communist country. Try to live with it. 99% of Slashdot userbase (including me) will say "bleh, still expensive" and move on. Having "Buy now"' link doesn't FORCE you to buy it you know?
I am watching E-Ink news personally for 2 years since that is the future for real tablet PC, not some BillG personal utopic toy.
Recently stuff offered to USA and Canada only has started bothering people as they see it as a way of "We don't give a f to you" attitude.
For example I know it is not only Apple to blame but iTunes Greece store existing and there is no iTunes Turkey store while countries has similar markets (wonder where enemy brothers term come from?) makes you think like "Oh well, Apple doesn't give a heck to our country" and get eMusic.com subscription.
Same goes for Rhapsody of Real Networks.; You see story on Slashdot, immediately click the URL with a list of rare stuff you have in your mind, you see "Available to USA only". It is like you go to a store and a bodyguard pushes you out because where you live.
I hope I could explain the background of "Why not available to my country?!" types of postings a bit.
btw, I know it is RIAA to blame for those "music" stores.
It says it is not a banking institution. So, it has lower rates and has "Google" in its name.
No other difference from Paypal?
It seems they use their brand value and lower rates against Paypal. Hope we won't have another Google Groups in hand since this thing is purely related to real life money.
On Google Groups, you can pollute usenet with any kind of criminal scams, pyramid schemes and they send "Google does not censor groups" type of "we don't care" message in politically correct way. Deja could handle abuse while usenet was really huge compared to today but as a billion dollar company they can't.
I hope they start working with Spamcop.net , Antiphishing.org and fraudwatchinternational.com right now. I hope they recorded all their URLs/IPs as interested parties and we (reporting users) don't see "ISP does not want to receive reports regarding" type of stuff at spamcop.net as first days of Paypal.
Sorry for replying to my own post, it is better than 5 guys replying to it :)
it is 4800 per minute, not second.
If you speak about backing up and archiving, there is a thing called TAPE. They come with 50 years warranty.
A thing rotating 4800 times per second is not a good place to archive anything.
I have no clue why donations are almost begged. If it requires such money how can EF , DAL like networks survive?
/lusers (of this time)
/lusers
/ignored by its users, something is definitely wrong.
I mean people are free to donate of course but I don't get what happens to amazing money that gets donated.
There are 12304 listed and 12842 unlisted users on 20 servers
That is a SMALL network compared to DAL/IRCnet/EF.
Here is IRCnet of exact same minute, now that is a real large network.
There are 97459 users and 5 services on 35 servers
I have never seen some donation begging etc on those servers.
If a networks founder gets
BTW, of course attacking to a network which is house of many open source projects is a lowest one can get.
That "pause" was patented and some companies didn't buy that patent rights so the modem didn't have such security measure as far as I remember.
So, modem "sees" +++ATH0, it hangs up.
Good modem "waits" 3 secs after +++ and grants the command after that pause.
I bet there are non 15 years old people who can bring down Freenode to its knees in 5 minutes of time. I bet they hate lilo too.
Thing is they WON'T do such a thing since Freenode is home of many open source projects including stuff Slashdot runs on.
It is more like locking down a ER department for fun.
Even if he globally announces, FreeNode regulars won't see it.
;)
;)
Don't ask why
PS: Have fun in jail since FreeNode isn't only about "lilo", there are many different kinds of people in some channels. I bet there are even Livejournal admin level guys who got effected by this lame thing. If you are trolling... Well, you shouldn't.
If people doesn't have problem with such things, they should install Alexa toolbar instead of Google. I am not kidding.
Their Quicktime division is "evil" but for this thing you can't blame them. To install iTunes for windows you really need Quicktime since most of that download is Quicktime framework for windows itself.
:)
Quicktime Player.exe , that thing is just a small wrapper. iTunes is entirely quicktime.
The "tray" application? Blame the coder of OS it works in. As long as they compete in mafia ways by stealing extensions from programs, both Apple and Realnetworks will have those "lets see if windows media player stole my extensions at boot" applications at startup.
I say "Thank God" to no bundle possibility since DivX player 6.x+ EULA says they CAN install stuff like third party browser bundles and you can't sue/blame them for it. On an interesting platform you can be technically shot dead to use "Spyware for OS X" term by its fanatic users, it has 442,261 downloads (just on versiontracker) and counting.
With that EULA...
Reason for calling Quicktime division "evil" with legit reasons? One of reasons could be this. Quicktime 7 can install and run on Windows 2000 with latest service pack. It needs OS X 10.3.9 minimum to install on Mac. Guess the reason?
I am not a Google user and Adobe can't dare to bundle anything with programs my segment uses. Also I am on OS X , thank God there is no "toolbar mechanism" on OS X (yet!)
;) Of course this is a type of comment you need to post with "karma bonus"
Why I am reading story and comments? For my entertainment...
Some people were really bugged by Adobe displaying tiny banners in their "Reader", a thing which they give freely. It was plugging into MS Office or something. As this is Google, nobody gets bugged by a "toolbar" (seen its privacy policy?!) coming with Adobe applications and even defend this decision.
If there would be a really useful toolbar I'd like to install BY MY CHOICE on OS X it would be Yahoo toolbar. They were one of the first ones used the concept and it is really useful. Especially bookmarks storage on server. I can imagine what would happen on Slashdot if they made the huge error (!) of bundling that instead.
Keep this hypocrisy