Wow. You can be sure, as a foreigner I had no clue $2 exists.
BTW, if you use them for any reason, don't go overseas with them. Unless its a professional (e.g. exchange office), he/she will automatically call police:)
Funny thing is, we have right not to know about it. If an american asks that question, he/she will be marked as racist or something, I guess as foreigner I have right(!) to ask.
"Is there a chance cashier was immigrant?" Not that there is anything wrong with it:)
As I asked that question, have to post with karma bonus as if any mod doesn't read above that question. Political correctness sux btw.
I just want a better community doesn't speak BS about companies like Frisk which was founded before they born saying they spread FUD.
I am NOT a developer for gods sake, I just see everything is unsigned and great coders have to excuse because of so called software security.
Lets start speaking the FACTS. Symbian, Cellphone , PDA is a piracy hell. 8 or 9 of 10 people uses CRACKED software. They can hardly sell stuff for $8 (yes- EIGHT dollars) to few people respecting their work like me and you suggest them to enable that license/signature whatever making them $12 each?
This will be my last comment on this topic. Have a nice day.
Viruses exist for Symbian, they really spread. Nobody will come up and say "Hey, I had taken my nokia 7650 to service because my one of (install cool name here) program 10.000 cracked app cd "
You all go out once in a while, like big concerts, make your phone visible and see if it exist or not.
"Kaspersky _are_ well known for scaremongering and nothing you can say is going to change that. Remember the recent "OMFG teh Internet is DOOMED!!!11!!1" statements from their CEO? What happened with that? Is the Internet still working?"
Mr. Karpersky didn't tell it, it was an employee of labs in a conference speaking about a possibility if the framework of Internet is not changed.
I am not russian, Ilgaz is not a russian name, I don't hide behind nicks. If I were narrow minded like you, I'd be hurting their business because of political reasons. Now I have same question for you... Do you have political relationship (positive or negative) with russia?
I have seen Karpersky antivirus installed in 10.000+ user networks, mainframes. As a computer hobbyist, I respeck them. BTW, nobody here looks as decision makers of corparate environments or able to afford karpersky license. Just a bunch of teenagers bullying industry legends as F-Prot and Karpersky.
In fact I use licensed Intego antivirus and Firewall on OS X, bite me!
I live sort of shit for 2 weeks that one of my licensed applications from a very well known, very cool company stopped working at new version. There was nothing, repeat nothing to send a bug report other than digging the applications and write down their versions.
They suggested it. As I call myself advanced user and wanted to help those guys, I asked if there is anything like "crash log" on my 7650 and I can send easily. There is NONE. Look, a daemon system level crashes, nothing logged at user side. Memory constraints? Well, there are 2 games installed by ROM occupying 200+ kb of precious 7650 memory.
Platform security? Thats why I suggest you never used symbian or a newbie. You can't get a security license without paying to Nokia and/or Symbian.
So, whatever you code, even if you provide entire community free of charge, like FExplorer, your installation will ALERT user just like the virus because you couldn't pay to those crooks.
I know it may hit me someday but they really deserved it.
I tried not to give names since there are teenagers here blaming Frisk for distributing fud to sell $10 antivirus. Same guys at one point had full loaded symbian pirate cds and installed like 60 applications to their memory card ignoring all warnings.
Hope Frisk will work with cell phone manufacturers, and stop that blog thing hurting their credibility needlessly.
When we see Nokia/Ericsson recalling their phones to update their firmware, they will hopefully understand the risk of the problem reported.
I just don'T like a company which I used their products for free since '93 (in my dos days) and offering them in somewhat free being flamed by teenagers as crooks.
The symbian community learned to bypass all security alerts saying "yes, yes".
You know the reason? Even the best symbian coders have to instruct users to IGNORE security alerts because they can't afford to buy a Symbian signed license for their application.
Only being a user, I suppose Nokia wants money for it.
About your OT: Got no spam for 3 weeks, looks like even spammers have some kind of brain;)
You blame F-Secure, makers of F-prot distributing FUD?
How old are you? 16?
Read some IT history about F-Prot. You will understand they really don't care about your $something.
I am just afraid of people like you administering Symbian sites, really afraid.
If I ever buy f-prot for my mobile, if there will be a reason ever, it will be people like you.
How many users of you care about exact 3 warnings when they download/purchase any sis from your site?
For people never used Symbian, you must PAY to Symbian/Nokia as a developer (free or not!) to get a "security signature" for your application.
I'd expect something like "This is what Nokia deserved, they tried to rip off developers by Symbian security signature and entire community 'learned' not to care about security alerts"
Not some bs like F-secure cares about your money.
I just wonder how many threats Karpersky labs does found and not announcing because of people like you. Who are them? Oh, just another crooks, going for money!
Forget media. While passing by, ask a Nokia or Ericsson,siemens service center if they had some phones completely dead and had to flash over service hardware.
Those companies spend BILLIONS to advertising. No sane reporter will make 2-3 infections news but doesn't change those viruses REALLY exist and believe or not, spreads.
There are people who automatically say "yes" to everything pops up at their phone. I know one myself personally. Not me.
Had 2 cabir requests in 5000 people Prodigy concert myself.
Also god help those poor "dongle" buyers have to install that more-evil-than-virus BT stack. If I wasn't using Mac, nobody, repeat nobody could make me buy anything named "bt" and install on x86. You know why? Installed to my bros x86 laptop running XP. If you ever get into such situation, get some non chemical tranquilizers first I say;)
OS X got central, system based support for BT. Carrying "framework" scheme. Thats why you will see more mac bt users than PC ones based on percentage.
I was at a Prodigy concert at Summer. Not so big concert like 5000 people. Had 5 vcard requests and 2 viruses.
Also thanks to that not so fake symbian virus (blame media which is afraid of nokia/sony ad revenue) everybody I know made their phones hidden. A guy I know actually accepted and installed virus, even carrying "reboot" order:P
It was lame anyway but for gods sake, bt is not dead (if not posted already)
More evil one comes, Bluetooth 2. When its down to regular customer, being 802.11x compatible, you will see the real lamer party;)
Just wait for this Summer when "phone show off" saga begins.
Serious, its one of the best pages updating daily with REAL astronomy photos. When you click on image, you can get like 1600*1200 wallpapers for free. Pure real images, no stupid filters etc applied.
I found it by chance like, it was set in my Omniweb browser on OS X.
"Cool stuff" really.
Better check previous days to see how "real" thing looks like.
Why this is important? This is the ONLY place I gave my mail. So, Cmdr Taco, someone is harvesting Slashdot.
Funniest ever thing:) Experiment succeeded
On Spamcop mail services readme , it writes "most of spammers stay away from spamcop.net mail addresses while some of them are stupid enough to try". I agree:)
I don't have a single bit of symphaty to Symantec and its Norton part but its really enough stupidness going on.
You basically tell this:
1)Every mac user is some guy from 1970's Unix guys and handcodes perl scripts for daily use
2)There is no way to modify OS X system files because everyone debugs whatever pops up saying "need administrator password" and checks their EULA, Company Background, Privacy Policy
I really had enough with this urban legend. I paid 30% more for this G5 (not american) and using it exclusively, I have nothing against mac at all. On this point of view Symantec is right, Intego was also right alerting Apple community about Finder bug and there are no viruses since some god damn lifeless SOB can't afford to buy a mac or got interested in it.
Hope it continues this way but please stop suggesting funny ideas like Symantec wants to sell antivirus to mac users.
Symantec does NOT need our money yet. Its a very very big company being respected in corporate environments and really earns huge amounts of money.
I purchased Intego Netbarrier AND Virus barrier second day of my G5 installation. Shoot me now.
If Intego alert was PR move, why on earth Apple updated FINDER (its desktop manager) and entire related frameworks to ask user "sure what to open" when clicked a file first time?
I predict the worst ever virus epidemic will hit Macs, thanks to the urban legend and this messenger shooting. I don't wish but I really predict. Its all Symantec, ZD Net, others in business WARN about. No they don't need your $30.
Slashdot Mirror
I don't live in USA, I am not american. If a tourist tried to give me $2 bill to this day, I'd keep him/her a bit busy and call police.
But, as that $2 exists there from start, its happening in USA looks like April 1.
As one of above posters point, a police chief referencing sep 11 for THIS incident is not funny, its tragedy imho.
Wow. You can be sure, as a foreigner I had no clue $2 exists.
:)
:)
BTW, if you use them for any reason, don't go overseas with them. Unless its a professional (e.g. exchange office), he/she will automatically call police
Funny thing is, we have right not to know about it. If an american asks that question, he/she will be marked as racist or something, I guess as foreigner I have right(!) to ask.
"Is there a chance cashier was immigrant?" Not that there is anything wrong with it
As I asked that question, have to post with karma bonus as if any mod doesn't read above that question. Political correctness sux btw.
At Goldbug description "Analysis: Mikko Hypponen, F-Secure"
:)
:)
If one of founders like him or Karpersky personally analyses the virus, be afraid of that virus.
As a general rule, for your collection
BTW, F-Prot DOS (its still updated people, use with freedos if you want!) still have a preference: "Virus Collection", for hobbyists
Uhm, I don't have bubble etc to bust. I wanted to inform people that site is worth looking into everyday.
Also yes, I know space is colorized but at least on that site no stupid lens flair etc effects added.
If you spent time checking the real site, you would see its like a space encyclopedia giving random info every day.
I just want a better community doesn't speak BS about companies like Frisk which was founded before they born saying they spread FUD.
I am NOT a developer for gods sake, I just see everything is unsigned and great coders have to excuse because of so called software security.
Lets start speaking the FACTS. Symbian, Cellphone , PDA is a piracy hell. 8 or 9 of 10 people uses CRACKED software. They can hardly sell stuff for $8 (yes- EIGHT dollars) to few people respecting their work like me and you suggest them to enable that license/signature whatever making them $12 each?
This will be my last comment on this topic. Have a nice day.
Oh boy, we will spend a long time for nothing.
Viruses exist for Symbian, they really spread. Nobody will come up and say "Hey, I had taken my nokia 7650 to service because my one of (install cool name here) program 10.000 cracked app cd "
You all go out once in a while, like big concerts, make your phone visible and see if it exist or not.
http://www.f-secure.com/corporate/intro.shtml
It really looks like they want to sell software to couple of symbian geeks and threatening their reputation since 1989, yea right.
"Kaspersky _are_ well known for scaremongering and nothing you can say is going to change that. Remember the recent "OMFG teh Internet is DOOMED!!!11!!1" statements from their CEO? What happened with that? Is the Internet still working?"
Mr. Karpersky didn't tell it, it was an employee of labs in a conference speaking about a possibility if the framework of Internet is not changed.
I am not russian, Ilgaz is not a russian name, I don't hide behind nicks. If I were narrow minded like you, I'd be hurting their business because of political reasons. Now I have same question for you... Do you have political relationship (positive or negative) with russia?
I have seen Karpersky antivirus installed in 10.000+ user networks, mainframes. As a computer hobbyist, I respeck them. BTW, nobody here looks as decision makers of corparate environments or able to afford karpersky license. Just a bunch of teenagers bullying industry legends as F-Prot and Karpersky.
In fact I use licensed Intego antivirus and Firewall on OS X, bite me!
He is really experienced, seems you aren't.
I live sort of shit for 2 weeks that one of my licensed applications from a very well known, very cool company stopped working at new version. There was nothing, repeat nothing to send a bug report other than digging the applications and write down their versions.
They suggested it. As I call myself advanced user and wanted to help those guys, I asked if there is anything like "crash log" on my 7650 and I can send easily. There is NONE. Look, a daemon system level crashes, nothing logged at user side. Memory constraints? Well, there are 2 games installed by ROM occupying 200+ kb of precious 7650 memory.
Platform security? Thats why I suggest you never used symbian or a newbie. You can't get a security license without paying to Nokia and/or Symbian.
So, whatever you code, even if you provide entire community free of charge, like FExplorer, your installation will ALERT user just like the virus because you couldn't pay to those crooks.
I know it may hit me someday but they really deserved it.
I tried not to give names since there are teenagers here blaming Frisk for distributing fud to sell $10 antivirus. Same guys at one point had full loaded symbian pirate cds and installed like 60 applications to their memory card ignoring all warnings.
Hope Frisk will work with cell phone manufacturers, and stop that blog thing hurting their credibility needlessly.
When we see Nokia/Ericsson recalling their phones to update their firmware, they will hopefully understand the risk of the problem reported.
I just don'T like a company which I used their products for free since '93 (in my dos days) and offering them in somewhat free being flamed by teenagers as crooks.
The symbian community learned to bypass all security alerts saying "yes, yes".
;)
You know the reason? Even the best symbian coders have to instruct users to IGNORE security alerts because they can't afford to buy a Symbian signed license for their application.
Only being a user, I suppose Nokia wants money for it.
About your OT: Got no spam for 3 weeks, looks like even spammers have some kind of brain
You blame F-Secure, makers of F-prot distributing FUD?
How old are you? 16?
Read some IT history about F-Prot. You will understand they really don't care about your $something.
I am just afraid of people like you administering Symbian sites, really afraid.
If I ever buy f-prot for my mobile, if there will be a reason ever, it will be people like you.
How many users of you care about exact 3 warnings when they download/purchase any sis from your site?
For people never used Symbian, you must PAY to Symbian/Nokia as a developer (free or not!) to get a "security signature" for your application.
I'd expect something like "This is what Nokia deserved, they tried to rip off developers by Symbian security signature and entire community 'learned' not to care about security alerts"
Not some bs like F-secure cares about your money.
I just wonder how many threats Karpersky labs does found and not announcing because of people like you. Who are them? Oh, just another crooks, going for money!
You are a Slashdot user and you know what ".sis" is.
Do not generalize. It would be an excellent world if persons of your type weren't only 2% or less of population.
I speak about people paying $5! for a single midi ringtone!
For people that doesn't get what you talk about, here is my favorite DOS.
:)
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/goldbug.shtml
Respect, really
You should be glad the elite ones like below:
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/hybris.shtml
Was killed by their author I suppose.
Forget media. While passing by, ask a Nokia or Ericsson,siemens service center if they had some phones completely dead and had to flash over service hardware.
Those companies spend BILLIONS to advertising. No sane reporter will make 2-3 infections news but doesn't change those viruses REALLY exist and believe or not, spreads.
There are people who automatically say "yes" to everything pops up at their phone. I know one myself personally. Not me.
Had 2 cabir requests in 5000 people Prodigy concert myself.
"YRO" section, my rights eh?
Cool. Looking to yahoo bulk folder, must say "congrats" to all phishers out there.
My rights online. rotfl.
It could take off if stuff like this below existed in XP platform:
i cker/
;)
:)
http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Cl
Not saying anything more but check it.
Also god help those poor "dongle" buyers have to install that more-evil-than-virus BT stack. If I wasn't using Mac, nobody, repeat nobody could make me buy anything named "bt" and install on x86. You know why? Installed to my bros x86 laptop running XP. If you ever get into such situation, get some non chemical tranquilizers first I say
OS X got central, system based support for BT. Carrying "framework" scheme. Thats why you will see more mac bt users than PC ones based on percentage.
Doesn't change "Salling" is a genius though
I was at a Prodigy concert at Summer. Not so big concert like 5000 people. Had 5 vcard requests and 2 viruses.
:P
;)
Also thanks to that not so fake symbian virus (blame media which is afraid of nokia/sony ad revenue) everybody I know made their phones hidden. A guy I know actually accepted and installed virus, even carrying "reboot" order
It was lame anyway but for gods sake, bt is not dead (if not posted already)
More evil one comes, Bluetooth 2. When its down to regular customer, being 802.11x compatible, you will see the real lamer party
Just wait for this Summer when "phone show off" saga begins.
Omniweb 5 OS X (latest) does block its popunder stuff. I am not frequent on his site but just FYI.
;) The "x" thing right bottom.
Also as Omni tradition, one click, I can see the popup with its title
Imagine this invention develops to a degree that you actually shoot 3d lamers running to you shouting "ASL" and they get g-lined.
Best selling game ever I tell you!
(fill in below)
A turkish company made it or licensed a technology.
:)
Guess why they gave up? TV changed channel immediately when someone spoke about other channel
I can't totally remember but I guess a washing machine has been victim about same thing, started washing whenever someone spoke about clothes.
I wish you provide more info (even submit story) about that freaking Librie thing from Sony. Are we finally speaking about actual ebook here?
:)
http://www.eink.com/news/releases/pr70.html
Its in my list and not giving up my 7650 just like you of course
Also there is a chance that whoever (Reuters,AP?) got that story to whole World is speaking about that device.
Ever seen Steve Jobs demoing NeXT in 1993? There is a video, search slashdot.
:)
You will really regret that post
Serious, its one of the best pages updating daily with REAL astronomy photos. When you click on image, you can get like 1600*1200 wallpapers for free. Pure real images, no stupid filters etc applied.
I found it by chance like, it was set in my Omniweb browser on OS X.
"Cool stuff" really.
Better check previous days to see how "real" thing looks like.
I don't know, maybe its because I am foreigner but those numbers are AMAZING to me.
:) Experiment succeeded
:)
$10 million? We are speaking about a monster than.
Meanwhile, my first spam came from http://www.clubdinvestissement.com/ is being taken cared by the IP provider.
Why this is important? This is the ONLY place I gave my mail. So, Cmdr Taco, someone is harvesting Slashdot.
Funniest ever thing
On Spamcop mail services readme , it writes "most of spammers stay away from spamcop.net mail addresses while some of them are stupid enough to try". I agree
I don't have a single bit of symphaty to Symantec and its Norton part but its really enough stupidness going on.
You basically tell this:
1)Every mac user is some guy from 1970's Unix guys and handcodes perl scripts for daily use
2)There is no way to modify OS X system files because everyone debugs whatever pops up saying "need administrator password" and checks their EULA, Company Background, Privacy Policy
I really had enough with this urban legend. I paid 30% more for this G5 (not american) and using it exclusively, I have nothing against mac at all. On this point of view Symantec is right, Intego was also right alerting Apple community about Finder bug and there are no viruses since some god damn lifeless SOB can't afford to buy a mac or got interested in it.
Hope it continues this way but please stop suggesting funny ideas like Symantec wants to sell antivirus to mac users.
Symantec does NOT need our money yet. Its a very very big company being respected in corporate environments and really earns huge amounts of money.
I purchased Intego Netbarrier AND Virus barrier second day of my G5 installation. Shoot me now.
If Intego alert was PR move, why on earth Apple updated FINDER (its desktop manager) and entire related frameworks to ask user "sure what to open" when clicked a file first time?
I predict the worst ever virus epidemic will hit Macs, thanks to the urban legend and this messenger shooting. I don't wish but I really predict. Its all Symantec, ZD Net, others in business WARN about. No they don't need your $30.