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Cell Phone as e-Book Reader (in Japan)

aussie_a writes "Reading books on your cell phone has become the latest feature in Japan. With games, e-mails and the news already standard features, the Japanese cell-phone is more then just a phone. Novels are downloaded in segments and are run as Java-based applications on the phone. But users can do much more then just read the book, they are able to search for books, write reviews and send fan mail to the authors."

136 comments

  1. Good For Scrolls by pressesc · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is how the story lead would appear on a cell phone. Is it good for anything but Haiku?

    1. Re:Good For Scrolls by kagelump · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Has it occrred to
      anyone that
      japanese characters
      are ideograms and
      takes up about
      two english
      letters on a
      cell phone?
      (same applys
      to chinese,
      korean, etc)

    2. Re:Good For Scrolls by ceeam · · Score: 2, Interesting

      First - it depends on a phone, of course. Width of about ~150..200px is probably where it starts to be comfortable. Second - this is how they teach you fast reading - by using text in narrow columns so that your eyes don't need to move left-right scanning the lines. Third - they used a pretty interesting writing system there in Japan you know.

      BTW - reading on Palm is a sheer pleasure for me now (I've read several rather big books in the last couple of months). Beats paper books all the time. With RTA-like auto-scrolling (screen rotation style, hard to explain - you need to see it though) with text-density/speed AI adjustments and anti-aliased fonts (copiable from Windows, for example) the latest PalmFiction releases are eBook heaven. I guess something similar should exist for smartphones too. Why not?

    3. Re:Good For Scrolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's how english text would look like on a cell phone; kanji doesn't use that much space.

    4. Re:Good For Scrolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This [pressesc.com] is how the story lead would appear on a cell phone.

      with a phone from the stone ages maybe. the phone I'm using right now has a 240x320 screen that can be switched to landscape mode, good for reading web and books (which I often use it for).

    5. Re:Good For Scrolls by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "This is how the story lead would appear on a cell phone. Is it good for anything but Haiku?"

      I don't exactly have a top-of-the-line phone here, but I read the news on it all the time. I'd prefer a PocketPC, but this'd do in a pinch.

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    6. Re:Good For Scrolls by LuYu · · Score: 1

      I guess something similar should exist for smartphones too. Why not?
      It does. It is called a web browser, and almost all color screen phones have one.
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  2. Kinda hard to read on the ol' nokia 3390 by tivoKlr · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Man, that would take forever to read on my little old Nokia 3390. I can see like 10 letters per line, and a whopping 5 lines of text per screen.

    Maybe good for a Haiku, but that's it...

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    1. Re:Kinda hard to read on the ol' nokia 3390 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to remember that Japanese is kind of condensed because of their use of chinese characters. An english document that is 1 page long may only be 80% that in Japanese.

    2. Re:Kinda hard to read on the ol' nokia 3390 by shadowmas · · Score: 1

      i do this already. i wrote a small java midlet which allows me to read ebooks on my mobile. it only has around 750k so the size of a book is limited but its still real handy when ur stuck in some reletives house with nothing to do. there are also plenty of midlets available online which allow you to do this.

  3. mistakes by alatesystems · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know that some day the paid editors will edit, but until then:
    "the Japanese cell-phone is more then just a phone" -- should be than

    In any case, that's lame that it runs as a J2ME app. I read stuff right now on my phone, and it's straight html and you can actually work with it, where the Jap J2ME apps are probably drm'ed to hell and back.

    I'll stick with my html, and there are plenty of PDF to html converters.

    1. Re:mistakes by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yah, this article is a few years out of date. There have been eBook readers available on mobiles for several years. I've read maybe 10 different books cover to cover on mine.

    2. Re:mistakes by timeOday · · Score: 1

      IMO, the "news" aspect of it isn't the technology per se, but the fact that it's actually catching on. Surprising.

    3. Re:mistakes by rastakid · · Score: 1

      In any case, that's lame that it runs as a J2ME app. I read stuff right now on my phone, and it's straight html and you can actually work with it, where the Jap J2ME apps are probably drm'ed to hell and back.

      Jup, but these J2ME apps allow some e-book reading enhancements like auto-scrolling and such.

    4. Re:mistakes by LuYu · · Score: 1

      IMO, the "news" aspect of it isn't the technology per se, but the fact that it's actually catching on. Surprising.
      No doubt. Most everybody I suggest this to seems to want to convince me of the virtues of paper. But people believe what they are used to is always the best thing...

      I suppose this is just more proof that Japanese people are more open to new technology than Westerners.

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  4. Oh where... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...have I seen this before?

  5. Eats, shoots, and leaves? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny
    "the Japanese cell-phone is more then just a phone" -- should be than"

    Or: "The Japanese cell phone is more! Then: just a phone"

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  6. Anime? by gallondr00nk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How would i read anime on a cellphone? turn it upside down?

    1. Re:Anime? by tepples · · Score: 0, Troll

      Watch anime and read the subtitles. Or read manga; anime is just manga with some basic animation on top.

  7. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Story dated March 18. They're using Tamagotchi now.

  8. To small? by vidarlo · · Score: 4, Informative
    Interesting discussion.

    I think that a mobile phone will have far to small screen. Even if you have a 7" screen, you can't display more than a few lines of text at once! A book has superior resolution, no expiry date, can lend it away and such. I see none of those features on a mobile phone.

    The day we can have a a5-sized sheet of e-paper, with a small 20g heavy data module, then maybe can e-books take off. But a book is something everyone know, it's universally, needs nothing but light, and works fine.

    1. Re:To small? by FRiC · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reading e-books have been quite common in China and Japan for a long time. Unlike languages that have to be spelled out, Chinese characters take up much less space and don't have to be word wrapped or hyphenated. Having a small display isn't a problem at all.

    2. Re:To small? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Even if you have a 7" screen, you can't display more than a few lines of text at once!

      Do you always set your font size to 50pt? Most phones these days give your a very comfortable newspaper-like column to look at.

      A book has superior resolution

      True, so why don't you print out your web pages before reading them to take advantage of 600dpi or whatever your printer is capable of?

      no expiry date

      Stick to txt - there are plenty of works available in plain txt.

      can lend it away and such

      To borrow a phrase, your strawman is on fire - we're talking about *computer files* here.

    3. Re:To small? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a PDA (finally gave it to my dad), and reading eBooks with it was a pain. There were enough lines on the screen, that never really was an issue. The real problem was the narrow columns and the very jaggy fonts. The contrast wasn't always great either (depending on lighting). I doubt cell phones really fix that.

      Web pages seen on big monitor with a decent font size and resolution looks great. It's wide enough, fonts aren't anywhere near as jaggy as on a PDA or anything like that. If they did, I would print them.

    4. Re:To small? by vidarlo · · Score: 1

      RTFA. The article discussed java applets, j2me, not html or txt. Go over it again when knowing this, and report the answers to me!

    5. Re:To small? by Isando · · Score: 1

      Yes and no. Kanji can take up smaller space but as they become more complicated they also become more difficult to read when they get smaller. Many kanji can appear very similar or indistinquishable if they are too small. Also many Japanese words or grammatical elements do not have kanji, so they must be spelled out with hiragana or katakana and can be longer. And worse, because Japanese doesnt use spaces to separate words, elements of a single word can be wrapped.

    6. Re:To small? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      Maybe american phones will have too small a screen, but you seem to be several years behind the rest of the world in that respect. Japan seems to be several years ahead of the rest of the world.

      My phone is basically a PDA with a wireless modem inside it. It has a similar sized screen to an IPAQ. I can get a pretty reasonable amount of text on the screen, certainly enough to make it useable. And with my 1GB memory card, I can carry pretty much an entire bookcase around in my pocket.

    7. Re:To small? by roadrunnerro · · Score: 1

      you do realize that the j2me apps probably load .txt, .html or whatever, no?

      here's an ancient but perfect example: MicroReader - I've been using it for ages.. btw: lowest font size gets you about 14 rows - very usable at ~12 rows...

    8. Re:To small? by Kubla+Khan · · Score: 1

      Not at all. I've been reading books from my phone for over 2 years, using ReadM first on a 7650 and now MobiPocket on a 6630 (I prefer ReadM but sadly it doesnt seem to work on the 6630). I just convert the book to html and run it through pyrite publisher and bluetooth the book to my phone. If you like scifi and fantasy the Baen free library (www.baen.com) is a great place to get books to try this out. You stop noticing the small screen pretty quickly and become immersed in the story. Turning pages is less effort than with a book , and soon you do it without consciously thinking about it.

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    9. Re:To small? by LuYu · · Score: 1

      Unlike languages that have to be spelled out, Chinese characters take up much less space and don't have to be word wrapped or hyphenated.
      Okay, I am starting to get tired of this argument now. Yes, Chinese characters are more efficient than Roman ones. Yes, they communicate more information per given space. This does not matter. English is still readable on a cell phone. I have been reading books for over a year and a half on two cell phones using Opera. It is more than a little readable. In fact, on a crowded bus or train, it is absolutely superior to paper books. It is backlit, so it can be read in a dark cab at night. Plus, the phone can be loaded with many books for you to choose from depending on your mood, and music can be played as well on the same device.

      While I agree that Chinese is probably the most efficient language for this application, nearly all languages can be read in this way. Yes, it takes some getting used to, but is that not true for everything?

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    10. Re:To small? by LuYu · · Score: 1

      Get a Zaurus.

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    11. Re:To small? by LuYu · · Score: 1

      Also, while the idea that Japanese cellphones are vastly technologically superior to phones everywhere else was true 5 years ago, there is less and less that is incredibly amazing about Japanese cell phones. Now that everyone has color screens and can use their cellphones to connect to the Internet and pretty cellphones are being sold outside of Japan, file transfer speed is probably the only advantage. Truthfully, I was disappointed the last time I went to Japan.

      Large screen cellphones are available in most markets now. And those PDA/cellphone contraptions have much larger screens than any cellphones I saw in Japan. No one would be caught dead with such bulk in Tokyo. So, screen size is probably a non-issue for those intending to read eTexts outside of Japan.

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  9. Going blind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You are on screen 3 of 1,490,548,734 of the Great Gatsby.

    *previous page* *next page*

  10. I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by Havenwar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    But this is seriously ridiculous.

    I've read e-books on a palmtop, and that was okay although not especially nice. Feels better with a book, but since it was easier and more convenent, I figured I could get used to e-books on a palm.

    But on a cellphone?

    Okay... but WHAT cellphone? Are we talking a cellphone/pda size here or are we talking a five lines of twenty letters kinda thing? Because if so, I'd rather stick to analog media, thankyaverymuch...

    1. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

      why is this marked flamebait? i hope its not because he used 'japs' in the title. This is no more offensive than people in the US being called Yanks. Get over it

    2. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting on an E-ink ebook reader like the Sony Librie to make it to the US.
      Of course, if it does, it will probably be too expensive for a "book"

    3. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by TerranFury · · Score: 1

      I sympathise with your point, but the things that offend people, particularly when they have to do with race and ethnicity, are almost never logical. I just take it as a standalone fact that, nowadays, "Jap" is generally a slur not to be used. There's no logic to it.

      And if you DO try to use logic even though it's got nothing to do with what people choose to be offended by, yours here doesn't work. If you say, "It's not a slur; it's just short for 'Japanese,'" then, what might you call a Nigerian?

      And actually, "Yankee" has negative connotations all over the place too; Americans have just embraced the word.

      So, the words that people choose to get knotted up over simply don't make sense, but it's just the way things are. That's what Monty Python's Knights Who Say 'Ni' were about. People ran away aghast when they used the word 'Ni.' If you substitute 'fuck' for 'ni,' then you've got real life. Same with 'Jap.' It needn't make sense.

    4. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by Frogbert · · Score: 1
      If you say, "It's not a slur; it's just short for 'Japanese,'" then, what might you call a Nigerian?

      A Nig?
    5. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by Havenwar · · Score: 1

      Oh... I apologize for using the word "japs" in the subject. In sweden this is not considered wrong or insulting, but apparently slashdot is a less tolenrant country. I will try to be more politically correct in my comments in the future.

      Weird though that this was modded down, and not the replypost last week that I started "dear rabid arsefucker".

      I would have thought that should be more insulting. But as someone said... logic is not present in those being offended...

    6. Re:I knew them japs where crazy bout gadgets... by TerranFury · · Score: 1

      Point: Frogbert.

  11. new cell phone feature... by alexandreracine · · Score: 0

    I will not buy this thing. I am still waiting for the phone with one touch button full capuccino control.

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  12. Forgot a use by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:Forgot a use by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Brings a new meaning to the phrase talking out your arse

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  13. I, for one. by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny
    I for one, look foward to reading Tolkien in this kind of format:

    "In a ho"
    le in the gr
    (then I thumb the arrow button)
    ound lived a "
    hobbit.

    I figure my thumb will implode by the time the poor dwarves get taunted at Rivendell.

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    1. Re:I, for one. by short4lif2 · · Score: 1

      i wholeheartedly agree with you. it is going to make the reading of books so annoying. i thought PDAs were bad enough!

    2. Re:I, for one. by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 1

      I figure my thumb will implode by the time the poor dwarves get taunted at Rivendell.

      Which is why e-books have auto scroll and/or autopage features; the Palm ebook readers have had auto-scroll for years.

      e-books are convenient. They're difficult to read, but the one thing I found annoying was that it's very hard to flip back in the book to find some reference you might have missed. Like reading Anna Karenina, there's so many people coming and going you have to keep going back to see who all these people are and how they're related, and it's really a nightmare in e-book form.

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    3. Re:I, for one. by ceeam · · Score: 1

      If that's your cell's screen size.... Does it have rotary dialer?

    4. Re:I, for one. by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

      but the one thing I found annoying was that it's very hard to flip back in the book to find some reference you might have missed.

      Really? Funny, when I had a Rocket eBook the search function was probably the most useful feature. "Bob? Who's Bob?" *Search upwards for Bob* "Oh, thats who!" Click return to bookmark.

      No more flipping pages for me!

      Of course if you dropped it you were out $300, so I can see why it never caught on ;)

    5. Re:I, for one. by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      I actually read the Lord of the Rings for the first time entirely on my iPaq 3760 and found it quite enjoyable.

      I have since replaced it and my Samsung A620 cellphone with a Treo 600 smarth phone and I'm currently on book 9 of 10 of Roger Zelazny's Amber series.

      I prefer reading on my PDA now as it's so much more convenient.

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  14. So... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...Slashdot editors do cliché posts too?

    (Although it should probably be "Cell Phone as e-Book Reader...in Japan!")

    Seriously, are these e-Books PDFs? If so I can probably write mine in XSL-FO, use FOP to make one of these, and then see my work on cellphones. That'd be sweet.

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  15. Books belong on paper by AmoHongos · · Score: 1

    Techie that I am, I still can't bring myself to read books on a computer screen. This sounds like a good idea, but there's something better about a paper book. The battery never needs to be charged, you don't have to squint to look at a tiny cell phone screen, and you don't need any expensive equipment to read it.

    1. Re:Books belong on paper by nutshell42 · · Score: 1
      Sony had some really cool electronic paper (there was a story on /.) that offers the best of both worlds (or at least could, would probably need a revision or two), it offers high resolution, you only need power to switch pages not to keep them displayed and IIRC it also had some nifty mechanism to fast forward through books.

      Of course it's Sony, so it's locked down with DRM and a proprietary format noone else uses but as they apparently have changed their ways recently (They opened up Blu-Ray and it even supports MS's VC-1, their new harddisk player supports mp3 etc) there's still hope =)

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    2. Re:Books belong on paper by nutshell42 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      better link (This link is actually from the article in my first post, should have read it before posting =)

      Offers much more information, for example:

      One much-repeated fallacy about the Librie is that power is used only for turning pages. While it is true that the "ink" particles stay in position without consuming power, the electronic innards do drain the juice, hence the inclusion of a standby mode. Nevertheless, the three AAA batteries used to power the Librie should stretch to an impressive 10,000 pages, enough for about 40 novels.

      So sue me =P

      "The average book in Japan weighs 309g; we designed the Librie to weigh 300g, including case and batteries."

      just some funny trivia; and:

      To keep a tight rein on the flow of ebooks, 15 major publishers and newspapers, including Kodansha, Asahi Shimbun and Yomiuri Shimbun, have teamed up with Sony to form a company called Publishing Link and to provide content through a website known as Timebook Town.

      ...

      Readers can choose texts from seven sections, or clubs, ranging from business books to novels and may either pay ¥315 (£1.65) for a single title or join that club and gain access to up to five books a month for ¥210 (£1.10) each.

      This is important. I don't have a problem with DRM itself, I have a problem with content that costs more than physical mediums (i.e. you pay more for online renting than if you do it in real life, until Steve Jobs beat some sense into the RIAA heads they offered 64kbps WMAs that didn't allow you to do anything with them for $3, etc), that is restricted like hell. Digital files are cheaper for the publishers so I want to benefit from that.

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    3. Re:Books belong on paper by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      After reading a few books on my PDA (Palm Tungsten E), I've found paper-books to be extremely annoying. They're just so big and bulky. You have to have two hands to read them (not that my other hand is doing anything important while reading, I don't read THOSE sort of novels) and you can't lie on your side (I lie on one side for one page, then it's difficult to read the other page, PDA's only have one "page").

      Having said that, reading on a cell-phone is insane.

    4. Re:Books belong on paper by macshit · · Score: 1

      that offers the best of both worlds (or at least could, would probably need a revision or two)

      Your parenthetical comment is spot on -- the Librie's display technology is certainly something to watch, but the Librie itself sucks.

      The display is very slow to update, which is theoretically fine for a book, but Sony doesn't seem to have taken this into account at all when designing the user-interface -- it's constantly trying to display conventional GUI elements ... slooooooowly (imagine how frustrating menus that take 3 seconds to pop up would be). The whole thing has a dreadful rushed-to-market-without-much-thought feel to it.

      Really to make a device like this work, you've got to completely rethink the UI to suit the medium, and Sony didn't even try.

      Another thing that freaks me out about the Librie is Sony's focus on DRM'd limited-time content. That sort of model could be OK, but given Sony's generally dreadful history of trying to squeeze as much money as possible out of consumers with locked-down proprietary standards, I sure as hell don't want Sony to design it. Frankly, I don't want the hardware manufacturers to be involved with content at all; today's evil media conglomerates view any new technology as a tool to throw away all the rights traditionally associated with older media, so I want as much competition in the process as possible.

      but as they apparently have changed their ways recently

      They'll do what they must to win a fight, but I wouldn't bet on their basic attitude having changed.

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  16. This is such a wonderfull idea by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

    I am shocked this has not been done before , i think it is the definition of ingenius ,, so simple yet so brilliant.
    an online serachable library that you can pick and choose from on the train or in the park .The way mobile phones are heading with increased screen size and memory not to forget the dropping costs it is only natural that it swallows the Ebook market.The only problem i would have with this would be if i were not able to back up the books to my computer , though that may not be an issue if it has open librarys

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    1. Re:This is such a wonderfull idea by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      You CAN back them up, providing 2 things:

      1. there is a removable media card
      2. the phone permits you to see the content on your card and external computer
      3. the content is not encrypted.

      See:

      http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/index.html

      and, for a lineup:
      http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/domestic.h tml

      (I have the older v402-SH...)

      But, if you want to enjoy hand-motion in a game, see:

      http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/kisyu/v603 sh/index.html

      Now, if only the US markets use JAN or QR code so that we could go grocery and other shopping and receive product information on user-initiated queries. We could even scan library shelves (on even from on-line libraries) and download content, or receive flyers on the street. Hell, even police cars could radiate missing persons reports that they receive. Then, any concerned citizen or visitor could download pictures and relevant information in a given community.

      LOTS of things could be done right here in the US that AREN'T being done because some PHB or bean counter can't find an immediate payback in it.

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  17. Even so... by astebbin · · Score: 1

    I still prefer books of paper becuase they are a) portable, b) compact, c) made out of recyclable materials, and d) never need to recharge at an outlet. Best of all, they're availible free at your local library, and you won't have to pay fines if you take a book out of it's local coverage area.

    Of course, millions of people will end up getting these book-phones anyway if only for the sake of looking cool and impressing their friends (designer nike shoes,anyone?).

    1. Re:Even so... by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      a) portable

      My phone is more portable than a book, plus I've always got it with me. I think there are 3/4 books on it right now. Handy for 10 min killing waiting for a taxi/bus etc.

      c) made out of recyclable materials

      That phrase always makes me laugh. So what if something is recyclable? How is that any good for anyone? Toilet paper is recyclable, but you don't see folk putting it in a special coloured bin. Books should be passed on and not disposed of anyway, though perhaps that's what you meant.

      Plus, as I've said in a few other comments, eBook readers on mobiles are about 3/4 years old. This new thing looks like the Jamster of eBooks, someones attempt to cash in and make it popular.

      But yeah, books are books and always will be books. I think that won't change until that flexible paper comes out then someone produces an eBook reader that actually looks and feels like a real book.

    2. Re:Even so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) portable, b) compact,

      Have to agree with you here - my phone is about 6 pounds plus the 20 pound backpack battery. Got it from my grandpa who brought it from wwii.

      c) made out of recyclable materials

      How true. My phone goes through electrons like crazy and those are not recyclable.

      d) never need to recharge at an outlet

      Disagree here. My phone has a hand crank. You couldn't count on finding an outlet deep in enemy territory in 1943.

    3. Re:Even so... by squeee · · Score: 1

      Of course, millions of people will end up getting these book-phones anyway if only for the sake of looking cool and impressing their friends (designer nike shoes,anyone?) If this encourages people to read (books as opposed to glossy trashy magazines), even if it is motivated by being cool and impressing their friends, then I'm all for it. Personally I doubt it will replace books. I've had an ebook reader on my nokia 7610 since I got the phone and find it a deeply fustrating experience. There's something satisfying about the weight, feel and smell of a book. I also prefer to print things like stories to read them if they're long as opposed to reading off my monitor for extended periods of time.

  18. Only in US... by ceeam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... this is news.

  19. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Cellphone Edition: by game+kid · · Score: 2, Funny
    One file to hold them all, one phone to deploy them,

    One number to buy them all and in your commute enjoy them.
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  20. Two words by Morphix84 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Treo 650.

    1. Re:Two words by KajiCo · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's one word and a number.

  21. I'd use it with a little improvement by DumbSwede · · Score: 2, Insightful
    My cell-phone has 320-240 resolution, more than adequate for reading, especially if the fonts where anti-aliased and well designed. BUT the interface totally sucks currently. Perhaps if it had a couple of easy to use scroll wheels that made scrolling through text a breeze, and you could choose to view in windscreen vs. the default portrait by holding it sideways, then we can talk about reading on your cell-phone.

    Still might be nice to have for when standing in line somewhere and you've forgotten to bring a novel or magazine.

    I assume someday soon cell-phones will be powerful enough to transcribe voice accurately enough that you could navigate around on the net reasonably enough or even get some work done.

    This does give me an idea for making a cell-phone friendly version for people reading my Blogs.

    1. Re:I'd use it with a little improvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first cellphone had a scroll wheel. This was years ago. I assumed they got rid of them because they were getting filled with gunk when people used phones after eating or some junk like that. Maybe a scroll pad would be more appropriate - no moving parts.

  22. Books on small devices by kabz · · Score: 1

    I'm really not sure I could put up with reading on a cell phone sized screen, but I did fulfil a longstanding promise to a friend to read the Book of John, and I managed it on the bus, on the train etc., using my Palm Vx.

    The essentials are a decent legible font and the ability to save plenty of bookmarks.

    In this case, the Vx made it easier to find time to read in traveling or other situations when I wouldn't normally be carrying an actual book.

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  23. Bah by Nexzus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would imagine that anyone with a Smartphone or Treo does this already.

    I've got an iPaq 6315, and one of the reasons I purchased it was to read E-books on my way to work. I used to use a old Palm to do the same thing, but I like the screen on the iPaq more, and it's one less gadget to carry around.

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    1. Re:Bah by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Kinda the same here: I use my trusty T3 for ebooks...isilo for straight text, repligo for pdf. Being able to easily read a book one handed (no page flipping) and carry along at least ten books (+reference books, dictionaries etc) have actually made me prefer my palmpilot to normal books (except for textbooks).

      Still, I prefer my cellphone as a seperate entity...it's so much handier for when I need to relay information to someone on the other end of the phone.

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  24. Vision Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is better to have a reader, a light one like flite, read the text to you. Unfortunately the voice quality sucks.

  25. Good Point by amigoro · · Score: 1

    Never thought of that. How Alphabet minded we are!

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  26. at least they still read books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unlike the dumb Americans who only watch TV

  27. So what? by MikTheUser · · Score: 1, Troll

    What's the freaking news?

    Cell phones can do just about anything now, and a little more. They should rather explain why they still call them "phones"...

  28. I don't care... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...in Japan, only old people use their cellphones to read eBooks!

  29. (In Japan) by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmm ive been doing this since 2002 on my old Nokia 7650. I mostly use eBook reader eBook reader for Symbian phones now on a 6600. There are loads of document readers/editors available from .pdf to MS word. I guess as the article says "Such times could be just around the corner in the United States, where cell phones are become increasingly used for relaying data, including video, digital photos and music.". Oh wait this is already available worldwide.

    1. Re:(In Japan) by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I wish you provide more info (even submit story) about that freaking Librie thing from Sony. Are we finally speaking about actual ebook here?

      http://www.eink.com/news/releases/pr70.html

      Its in my list and not giving up my 7650 just like you of course :)

      Also there is a chance that whoever (Reuters,AP?) got that story to whole World is speaking about that device.

  30. Drive, read book, and be on the phone at one time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll forgive me if I avoid being a pedestrian in Tokyo any time soon...

  31. It seems obvious to me how this would work best by saskboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Instead of relying on a screen to visually read the eBook, you already have a built-in private speaker in the earpiece, and could give voice commands to the software to read the next page, resume, go-back, or pause. The only concern then is not to interfere with the phone's ability to take a call, and battery life might be impacted more, but a text-to-speech eBook phone could be the next big thing.

    Handsfree would be an asset, as holding the phone up to your ear for that long might be tiring, or if you're stupid enough to drive and use one, cause accidents.

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    1. Re:It seems obvious to me how this would work best by loner0208 · · Score: 1

      Good idea... as an alternative. You're talking about audio books really, but I can't listen to audio books for the life of me. I'll pay attention to the first paragraph or two and then my mind wanders off, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this. The problem is that the writing style used for reading isn't ideal for listening. The same way you can't take a book and translate it literally to a movie, you can't just read it out-loud for the best result. You must transform it to a storytelling mode, whether it's a story, news, or instructions.

      Also sometimes, it's actually good to have something to look at, like in a doctor's waiting room, instead of staring at the wall or the people facing you.

    2. Re:It seems obvious to me how this would work best by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "but a text-to-speech eBook phone could be the next big thing"

      You know...I hate to burst your bubble, but there's this thing called "audio books" where you can listen to recordings of people reading your books. There's also a website called Audible.com that lets you download these for your iPod.

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    3. Re:It seems obvious to me how this would work best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, most cellphone ebook reading software has automatic page flipping.

  32. set @pedantic = 1 by kahei · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Korean characters are not ideograms, except when they borrow chinese ones for names and hard words. They're phonetic, and a very elegant system it is -- or was, until the inevitable blurring and decay.

    They were founded on Confucian principles -- 'male' sounds stick up and 'female' sounds lie passively underneath them. Gotta love that Confucianism @_@

    Japanese characters are often ideograms, but to be honest the text is no more than maybe 1.5 times the density of English, for colloquial dialog. I think the key might be that the users are train passengers reading pulp novels, so that:


    1 -- there isn't room to open a book


    2 -- you don't really need to backtrack and appreciate the structure and rhythm :)

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    1. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by kagelump · · Score: 1

      sorry, what i meant is that they're all squares

      I'm chinese, studying Japanese, and all I know about Korean is what they post up on wikimedia

    2. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by damsa · · Score: 1

      All Korean, used to be in Chinese characters until the 1500s. Legend has it that the Korean alphabet was based on images left on leaves or something. All Korean alphabets can be drawn with a circle, lines or a box. In Korean, for each syllable there is one "character" which is a series of alphabets. For example damsa. Imagine 'd' 'a' and 'm' occupying the same space as one character, and s and a occupying the next space. So you have a five spaces in english, occupying 2 spaces in korean. For Japanese, it would be da mu sa. So Japanese would occupy 2 spaces. So if you counting amount of spaces I would think that Japanese would take less "spaces" than English.

    3. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by novakyu · · Score: 1
      Legend has it that the Korean alphabet was based on images left on leaves or something.

      Legend? I thought it was pretty much accepted that the King Sejong commissioned creation of Korean alphabet, which changed only in minor aspects over 400 years.

      Now, granted, there were other attempts to devise a Korean writing system (including something called Yidoo, which is nothing more than using Chinese characters in phonetic fasion, I believe), and creation of Hangeul was probably nothing like coming up with some brilliant writing system overnight, out of thin air, but the history of Korean writing system is better documented than you indicate.

      What you are saying, put in the American perspective, is quite similar to saying, "The U.S. Constitution, according to legends, was revealed to the Founding Fathers on a holy mountain in Massachusetts by the Holy Spirit."

      See how ridiculous it is? There is no such legend, and there is no _need_ for one, since we already know the true (more or less...take a scribe's "error" or two) story.

    4. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by damsa · · Score: 1
      I was refering to the legend that the Korean alphabet was based on leaf shape. No it's more similar to saying, according to legends, the Constitution was based on the goverment of the Iroqouis nation or that Ben Franklin used a kite to discover electricity.

      See how ridiculous it is? There is no such legend, and there is no _need_ for one, since we already know the true (more or less...take a scribe's "error" or two) story. Don't be mad at me coz your daddy never read you bedtime stories.

    5. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by damsa · · Score: 1
      To clarify, the story I was told when I was a kid was that King Sejong did invent the Korean writing system. But the shape of the each alphabet was based on either the shape of the leaves or something like that. Also the story goes that he invented for the benefit of the common man because Chinese was too hard.

      I don't know why you have a problem of calling it a legend. This site doesn't seem to mind calling it a legend. http://www.ikjournal.com/upload/200501/263.html

    6. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by novakyu · · Score: 1
      I don't know why you have a problem of calling it a legend. This site doesn't seem to mind calling it a legend. http://www.ikjournal.com/upload/200501/263.html

      Well, because AFAIK, there is no such legend. I don't have time to read the site you cite, but a quick search (and a cursory glance) reveals no word "leaf" or "leaves". It does mention how the characters were meant to resemble organ shapes (and that's the story I read about consonants in Korea) and nature (sky and things like that; I haven't heard this story, but is believable enough for now), but those are not the same legends you talk of.

      Well, to cut the long story short, the one reason in particular I objected to your metioning your "legend" was, i) it trivializes creation of Hanguel (specifically, makes it sound like it was arbitrary, the way Roman alphabets are---which isn't true, BTW), and that's one of the worst insult you can throw at a person with Korean heritage (aside from saying Dok-doh is a Japanese island, perhaps); ii) it's simply not true.

    7. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by damsa · · Score: 1
      My dad used to tell me the story. So if you have problems with the story go discuss it with my dad. It's like any other true story with mythic elements. Newton discovering "gravity" by sitting under a tree. Does it make his contributions to science any less great. I don't think so People can tell the origins of Hangul from reading a history book. I am just sharing something that I learned when I was a kid.

      As aside, most formal documents were done in Chinese characters up until the Japanese occupation in the 20th century. During which scholars working underground saved hangul until liberation by the American forces in 1945. Thus afterwards, all things Japanese related were considered wrong. So currently there is less reliance on Chinese characters than in many years pass. So to put this thread more on topic. Japanese books with more Chinese characters might may take less space than Korean books which probably have less Chinese characters.

    8. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by novakyu · · Score: 1
      Japanese books with more Chinese characters might may take less space than Korean books which probably have less Chinese characters.

      Egh... you really don't have a single clue how Korean written system works, do you? Now, you are correct in saying that Koreans eliminated Chinese characters in their writing, pretty much. However, that, in itself, has nothing to do with Japanese occupation. I'll have you know that at the time when Hangeul was created, it was not accepted widely. It was called "Eonmoon", "common people's writing", or more idiomatically, "vernacular". Scholars and aristocrats definitely did not use Hangeul. It was only during and after occupation (er... maybe a littel before that too---my modern Korean history's a bit rusty) that Hanguel was rooted as a symbol of Korean people. Now, I think you are confusing recent efforts to get rid of "Japanese" words (for example, the yellow radish thing they give you in "Chinese" restaurants (run by Koreans, of course), is properly called in Korean, "Danmooji", but it's also often called "Dalg-gguang", which, I believe, is the Japanese name for it; they are trying to get rid of those elements of our speech) or other perceived "Japanese" influence with this change in writing system.

      Now, coming back to the topic, do you really not know how exactly Koreans "eliminated" Chinese characters? They write it phonetically in Korean. In fact, what is one character in Chinese is also one character in Korean---even if original Chinese pronunciation of that particular "word" isn't one syllable, you can be guaranteed that the Korean version is one syllable and therefore representable by one Korean character. Of course, this introduces problem of ambiguity now and then, and that's where Chinese characters are used mostly now (in parenthesis, for short and effective disambiguation for the learned). Nevertheless, Korean vocabulary, especially in the "learned" writing, remains very much Sino-Korean, if anything, especially given the similarity of Korean and Japanese, I would assert (but since I don't know Japanese, I cannot verify this authoritatively) that the same content written in Korean is shorter, since Korean writing system, even when writing pure-Korean words, writes only one character for one syllable, whereas Japanese writing system for pure Japanese words do not (IIRC, they work very much like Roman alphabet).

      Now, if you are going to claim yourself as a Korean, don't stop at what your dad told you---'hate to break it to you, but much of it probably isn't right, and even if they are, probably not in depth enough. Study Korean (Hangeul) for yourself, learn your culture, or just blend into the mainstream and act like clueless Westerners.

      PS. I should put this disclaimer that the North Korea does go all the way and tries to eliminate all non-pure-Korean words (Sino-Korean, Japanese, English, etc.), resulting in a longer writing/speech. But, I'm going to assume that you or your parents are not recent arrivals from North Korea.

    9. Re:set @pedantic = 1 by damsa · · Score: 1
      Yes, I said with the Korean alphabet generally is shorter than Japanese characters. However, Japanese uses more Chinese characters than Koreans. As such I offered that perhaps in the Japanese language since more Chinese characters are used that it would take less space than Korean language. However as since I have only done a cursory study of Korean and Japanese I can't say which is shorter overall. And only offering a theory. Japanese also provides each syllable as each character. So I'm not sure where you are going with that one.

      I agree with what you said. Hangul, was not used for diplomatic, or official documents until the 20th century after occupation of Japan. I guess the way I wrote it was not clear. Also during that time Hangul was changed and kept underground because of the Japanese occupation.

      I am also aware that Koreans are trying to get rid of some of the words that are based on Japanese such as daikon which is pronnounced Dak -gwang.

      Also I'm also aware that there was also a push to introduce more Chinese characters in street signs to increase Japanese and Chinese tourism in Korea.

      I also suggest that you go learn more about your country. If you learned Korean history in Korea it would be definitely be biased. If you learned Korean history in America then you know about the same as I do.

  33. reading e-books by Arvster · · Score: 1

    Good to know that i am ahead of Japanese :D I read e-books on my SonyEricsson P900 since purchasing it last year.

  34. DNA said it best... by slasho81 · · Score: 1

    "We notice things that don't work. We don't notice things that do. We notice computers, we don't notices pennies. We notice e-book readers, we don't notice books." - Douglas Adams

  35. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's a good feeling when you've been doing something for 2 years and now it's finally becoming the 'latest' thing in Japan. I've had my Nokia 3650 since when it first came out in the spring of 2003 and have read many novel-sized books on it using the excellent ReadM software for symbian. It supports several formats but my most favorite is txt.gz. At about 1k per page, you can fit a lot of books even on the standard 16MB card.
    All Series 60 phones have 176x208 screen which fits about 70-80 English words - no need for Kanji like other people here are saying. There are several great advantages to reading a book on the cell phone:
    * It's with you all the time and anywhere
    * No need for ambient lighting (a big deal for late-night readers with female SO's)
    * Much more convenient to read in bed.
    Perhaps people who object to reading books on anything other than paper should have their morning slashdot printed out for them as well.

  36. Yeah, with all that text on the screen... by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 1

    You are on screen 3 of 1,490,548,734 of the Great Gatsby.

    CONTENT:
    vulnerable years my

    *previous page* *next page*

    1. Re:Yeah, with all that text on the screen... by bladx · · Score: 0

      During the unit on The Great Gatsby, my english teacher would always pause and say: "Fertile Myrtle."

  37. Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This technology has been around for a while:

    http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/p800.asp ?Origine=PAGE_P800

  38. Yes you can... by povvell · · Score: 1

    I read both the Lord of the Rings trilogy and several of the Harry Potter books on my Siemens SX1 handset using the readm http://zavorine.net/symbian/readm.htm ebook reader (and yes I bought the books first to pay licenses). The screen is definitely big enough and if the story is good enough who cares that it's not on paper? Especially with a decent auto-scroll.

    Why did I do this? Because it lets me store and read when I'm travelling, at airports, train stations, everywhere I'm hanging around. And no bulgy pockets!

  39. text-to-speech technology isn't designed for this by gotr00t · · Score: 1
    Have you actually tried to listen to a book using current text-to-speech technology? I tried converting a book from project gutenberg to audio, but it pronounced words so inaccruately with a tone so irritating that I could not bear to listen to it after a few minutes.

    Downloading entire books read by a human in an audio format isn't practical either, as audio files that long tend to be several hundred megabytes, and flash media isn't exactly cheap either.

  40. Re:Drive, read book, and be on the phone at one ti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Traffic moves so slow in Tokyo you'll have plenty of time to walk out of the way if someone is about to hit you.

  41. No, THIS is how they look like by ag0ny · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I happen to have a few phone catalogs here. I have just scanned a page on a DoCoMo catalog showing the screens (and font sizes) on the latest phone models.

    The image is here. This is a 1Mbyte JPEG file, be warned.

    As you can see, this is more than enough to read a book, specially if it's written in Japanese.

    1. Re:No, THIS is how they look like by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Just as a note to anyone who doesn't read Japanese, and thus cannot appreciate how densely packed the information is, the first nine characters (including the comma!) basically say "this weekend at the zoo" (23 characters).

      I'd translate more, but the right half of the text is not shown.

  42. No thanks by Chris+Kamel · · Score: 1

    I don't wanna get blind, my CRT is doing a good enough job making sure that'll happen soon anyway.

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  43. Japanese makes it all possible. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
    The Japanese language makes a lot of things like this possible, or at least a lot easier than in other languages. In Japanese, it doesn't take as many characters to describe a sentence as it does, for example, in English. (This is one of the reasons all kinds of IM 1337 5p33k has developed, like "c u l8er" or "brb".) This means that the small screens on cell phones are large enough to facilitate many innovative uses.

    Here in the United States, people seem more content to haul around laptops, like this Powerbook I'm using right now, and read novels or access enterprise data from Internet cafes with wireless access. By the way, I ain't Japanese, but I have several friends who are.

    1. Re:Japanese makes it all possible. by patio11 · · Score: 1

      While your general point is correct, this sentence fills up the entirety of a Japanese telephone display (two displays, if you try it in English). Without scrolling you get about 50 characters on my model -- Japanese consumes them at roughly 60% of the rate of English depending on topic and linguistic choices (to l33t, or not to l33t, that I believe is the question). You aren't going to be reading book-length texts on your keitai anytime soon. And, dear Lordy, they'd kill you with the expense -- I pay 1/3 of a yen (about 1/3 of an American cent) for 128 *bytes* of "packet usage" at the moment, which would make it cheaper for me to buy the LotR DVD than try reading the first chapter.

  44. Heh, some phones have it for years already by S3D · · Score: 1

    I routinely read books on my Nokia 6600, while on the bus, or waiting etc. I convert them into txt and read with ReadM - free text reader.

  45. In Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Well, reading books off the cell phone became quite widespread in Russia, too. Especially, given the fact that there is a *tons* of russian books on the internet.

    Have a look at http://bookshelf.sourceforge.net/ if you need a book reader for your cell phone.

  46. Saw it a few days ago. by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 1

    I didnt the scoop, darn! Anyways... I was thinking the same thing, how the hell could read all of that, that's impossible for me. But also, wouldn't this lead to alot of accidents. I mean the women looks like she's walking while reading. What would happen if you all the sudden were walking in a crosswalk when it turned green. It seems more like a safety hazard. Don't make me get started on cars. I expect major pileups someday if this is ever deployed in the US.

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  47. Been doing this for ages by Isando · · Score: 1

    Well I have a Nokia 6600 and a Motorola V600 and I have been reading books on them for ages. I guess Im ahead of the Japanese on this one.
    With Symbian phones, like the Nokia 6600 there is ReadM. With my V600 I use Tequilacat BookReader. I currently have all the Harry Potter books and all the Hitchhiker's Guide books on my V600, and I really do use it to read, quite often.

  48. Well..this just proves.. by jschroering · · Score: 1

    That girls who date Asian men will have a second use for their magnifying glass now! (sorry, couldn't resist :) Jimmy

    1. Re:Well..this just proves.. by bladx · · Score: 0

      I think a lot of people don't realize that asian men are not necessarily shorter than someone from a more western country.

    2. Re:Well..this just proves.. by jschroering · · Score: 1

      The joke wasn't about height ;)

      Jimmy

    3. Re:Well..this just proves.. by bladx · · Score: 0

      I used "shorter" for a reason.... :)

    4. Re:Well..this just proves.. by jschroering · · Score: 1

      Ah, so you did. I misread your comment. Doesn't matter anyhow, I think the joke flew over most people's....erm, heads ;)

      Jimmy

    5. Re:Well..this just proves.. by bladx · · Score: 0

      haha :p that's okay

  49. Not that original by Kesh · · Score: 1
    If you have a PDA phone, like a Treo, you can already do this. And you don't even need to buy the classics.

    I suppose it's kinda neat that non-PDA phones can read books this way, but downloading bits at a time? The way American phone companies gouge you for data usage, fees would pile up quick.

  50. Symbian or Java phones have plenty of readers by Ludoo · · Score: 1

    Symbian or Java phones have had ebook readers for a while. We published a few posts on the topic (in italian, use babelfish or follow urls) here, here, and here.

  51. screen size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The W21CA has a 2.6 inch widescreen...
    http://www.casio.co.jp/k-tai/w21ca/

  52. Reading books on a Treo by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

    I already use programs like TiBR to read textfile novels on my Treo 600. It's a little scrunched, but I don't really notice it; things are probably considerably better on the Treo 650.

    Project Gutenberg has plenty of textfile novels ripe for reading. Cory Doctorow's stuff is also pretty good. I read his Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom entirely on my cell.

    Another handy resource is the University of Virginia Library's Etext Center, which has 1800 freely-available eBooks.

    1. Re:Reading books on a Treo by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      Mike Brotherton has just released his (award-winning, actually printed by Tor) hard SF novel Stardragon under a Creative Commons license,

      http://www.mikebrotherton.com/novels/index.html

      Hopefully there'll be a nicer version of the .pdf, or corrected .txt version up soon.

      John Mark Ockerbloom's Onlinebooks page is the best collection / search engine for free etexts I've yet found:

      http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/

      William

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  53. Big whoop. by koreth · · Score: 1

    The last seven or eight books I've read have been e-books on my phone (Treo 650). And I didn't have to pay per page for it, either: Plucker plus Project Gutenberg plus stuff like the Baen Free Library for more recent titles equals a big bookshelf's worth of free-of-charge books in my pocket wherever I go.

  54. I read Ebooks in on mobiles in 2nd Generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMG, finally the industry has found the trend. I read Ebooks in on mobiles in 2nd Generation. I even read Slashdot an my Weather and TV newspapers on my mobile phone or should I say PDA ? This gadgets are really nice and only lack touchpads but you can buy a SonyEricsson P900i and you have that too. Tell me something this PDA can't do. J2ME is cool because it works on almost all phones but Symbian phones have neat features. Motorola should implement an Ebook reader in their Linux mobiles. Bye PS: I could have written this in Opera from my Mobile Phone. but i save my thumbs.

  55. Free bookreader by Dice+Fivefold · · Score: 1

    I have read a couple of books with the free bookreader from Tequilacat:
    http://tequilacat.nm.ru/dev/br/index-en.html

    Tha small screen makes the reading quite a bit slower than usual. On the other hand it's very handy to have a good book with you anytime you get bored. And there is a lot of free books availible for download on the p2p networks.

  56. Newspaper reading! by Calroth · · Score: 1

    I dunno about e-book reading, but small screens are perfect for newspapers.

    Think about it: newspapers (printed ones) have narrow columns and short paragraphs. All the important info is at the top of the story. That's the perfect thing to be reading on your cell phone. In fact, that's what I do on my Treo... the first thing I do every morning is sync a copy of the Sydney Morning Herald.

    I reckon that a forward-looking newspaper could sell versions of their newspapers especially for cell phones. However, it would require a lot more foresight than I've ever seen from a big media company.

  57. King PDA is dead! Long live King Keitai! by shanen · · Score: 1
    Actually I've been doing a lot of research on this topic in the last couple of weeks. The PDA market has basically collapsed in Japan, so I've been planning my move to a portable phone ("keitai denwa" in Japanese, hence the Subject). A few comments and observations:
    1. The hardware is amazing. I'm using a Sanyo device with an amazing range of features. Latest ones I just discovered are the zoom for the camera and the quick switch for image size.
    2. Some models (like Kyocera's) can work as a kind of high speed modem for your computer.
    3. Some companies, such as KDDI, don't want you to do that.
    4. KDDI also makes a profit by delivering spam email. I dislike that so much I'm probably going to cancel my contract even though the phone is so amazing.
    5. Cancelling the contract in the first year charges about an extra month as a penalty.
    6. More directly on the topic of this article, none of the systems I've looked at includes the e-book software, and the USB cable is also extra. You might be able to live through the infrared port without the cable, but you'd still need software.
      1. KDDI recommends two packages, a minimal function one for 1,050 yen, and a medium-high function package that runs almost 5,000 yen.
      2. The best package is called Keitai Bannou, and it's the only one that seems to include the modem functions for those phones which support it.
      3. The most popular package is Keitai Denwa from SourceNext, with various versions and medium-high functionality.
    7. There are also data-centric networks like Air Edge, where the phone service is the minor part of it.
    8. English support is spotty (as was to be expected).
    In conclusion, I'd really like to hear from someone who knows more about what is going on here...
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    1. Re:King PDA is dead! Long live King Keitai! by shanen · · Score: 1
      Forgot to mention the big missing feature is handwriting input a la Grafitti. However, when working in Japanese, the predictive input system is quite good, and it greatly reduces the amount of clicking you have to do.

      I feel like going deeper into the list of amazing and weird features it does have...

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  58. Re:To small? Say WHAT? Too small? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    I have a Sharp v402SH phone

    http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/kisyu/v402 sh/index.html

    distributed by Vodafone. My phone allows reading of e-books. I just recently figured out how to find the hidden folder (it's on the mini SD card in Kanji, so I had to sprinkle files here and there and put the card back into my phone and then drill into e-Books until the file showed up in a list.

    Here is how my text appears, 7 words across 13 lines down.

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    Perhaps if the whole DVD region encoding
    scheme were to be stricken or banished,
    and movies released world-wide to many
    regions versus by region coode (1), then
    piracy and shoddy translations would be
    reduced, maybe a lot. (Diisclaimer, I
    have only ONE non-paid DVD in my
    collection and iit's not US-produced, but
    ALL my others are paidd-for, usually
    from Fry's Electronics or as Blockbuster
    or Hollywood used video sell-offs, and
    I have spent HUNDREDSs on over 50 DVDs
    and maybe 80 or more VHS cassettes. (2)

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    That is on a CG Silicon screen READIN AREA (black border lines) measuring 1-11/32 inches wide by 1-14/32 (or, 1-7/16) inches. Using the scrool ring makes reading faster, and I can save to the bookmark, move to the bookmark, Home, End, % Shift, and Copy, a the page in percentages and save the bookmark. Also, I can change the text direction from horizontal to lateral. In lateral orientation/direction, I get 12 lines of text to read, vs 13. But, that is not a problem because I can flip and twist the screen and read it as a reader rather than as a phone, in appearance. *

    The average paperback has 10 to 15 words across and 40-45 words down. Also, I can adjust the font to 3 (THREE) different sizes, but only one is useful to me, as my vision permits me to read small fonts (for now...).

    The cool thing is I can write materiaal and save it in TEXT format (.txt, not .pdf) onto my mini-SD card and read it on my phone, and that is GOOD, particularly since when on a bus or train it's utterly embarrassing a impractical to use my Sony VAIO PCG-FX215 as the battery lasts only 3 (THREE) minutes now once KDE is up, and that is even with CPU throttling turned on. Even at a black screen before selecting a kernel, if I forget to plug in the laptop, I get maybe 4 minutes before the battery dies. (Yes, I try to discharge it by running the l/t, but when I plug in, it begins charging at some 85%, then takes an hour or so to get to 100%...)

    Now, if the US markets offer .txt reading via cell phones (assuming the phone has an SD/mini-SD card slot), this might tick off the PDA and content providers, especially since the content providers might feeel "screwed out of" being able to charge by the kilobyte for downloading text. But, that would be a screwed up argument in itself, as Bluetooth-enabled phones would probably permit inbound text transfers to a phone (well, unless the provider specifically asks the phone manufacturer to block it in the circuitry...)

    Now, when I run my phone's Analog TV (picks up Bay Area broadcasts, and when close enough to a tower like CH11 it is mouth watering. The Spanish and a few others are astoundinggly clear/sharp, and all run at 30-fps) or the FM radio (tunes from 76 MHz to 90 MHz... fortunately, I can pick up NPR/88.5), I get only about 1 hour of time on the battery. That is not bad, as it permits about 25% of juice to remain to take calls, e-mail, play scheduled alarms, etc. But, as long as the phone is plugged into AC, all I have to do hit the power button every 30 or every 60 minutes, depending on which I chose for battery conservation...

    * (The screen measures 1-14/32 by 1-28/32 vertically, or 1-7/16 by 1-7/8 inches, while the lid itself, above the swivel point measures: 1-31/32 wide by 2-26/32. It's is a helluva cool phone, and I wish Vodafone or a US carrier would put this phone in t

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  59. Over a Year and a Half... by LuYu · · Score: 1

    I have been doing this for over a year and a half on both my P800 and my A780. They both have Opera, and I just strip Project Gutenberg eTexts or other books down and break them into chapters. As long as the HTML formatting does not specify width, the page should display fine on any small screen. (The script I use is at SourceForge).

    This can be done on any phone or PDA that has any kind of web browser. Even PocketIE can handle simple pages (although it cannot use CSS and it loads pages slowly). This is not a technological advancement. Practically every cell phone with a color screen and web access can do this.

    It is nice to be able to carry a library of 10 or more books in one's pocket, as well. It is too bad copyright limits the books one can carry to approximately 100 years old or older.

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  60. what if... by torrents · · Score: 1

    your celliphone doesn't have a screen???

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  61. In Sweden to. by alex789 · · Score: 1

    This is happening here in Sweden to. A company called elib has monopolized the emerging ebook market.

    Their businessmodel is quite interesting. They provied ebooks to public libraries. Patrons can download the books for free and the library foots the bill.

    Elib made a user poll and it turned out that 4% (IIRC) of the users were reading the books on their cell phones.

    Here's an article (in swedish) I wrote a while back on the ebook situation over here.

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  62. Re: Too small? by gidds · · Score: 1
    You might be surprised.

    I have a big library (~3 bookcases' worth of novels, short stories, &c) on my Psion 5mx, and even on its 640x240, 5.5"x2" screen, I find reading novels perfectly comfortable. It's true you need to 'turn the page' more often than a dead-tree book, but when that just involves pressing the space bar or tapping the screen, it's really not an issue. You can choose font and size, of course, and with the backlight you can read in bed with the lights off!

    Of course, a very small screen, such as on my current mobile (Siemens S45, about 1" square) would make reading an extremely tedious experience, but when you reach the 5mx's sort of size, once you get engrossed in a story you really don't notice the screen. Or at least, I don't!

    It's a matter of personal taste, I'm sure. But don't knock it until you've tried it!

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