Overture purchased fast.no , the norwegian engine who's behind alltheweb.com, Amazon, Ebay etc. so I won't be surprised if they switch to fast.no, one another tech marvel on search engines.
I currently use Opera 7.x (licensed) and alltheweb is my default now.
Oh against "google uses linux" flamers, alltheweb runs on *nix too.
Corparates, who actually buy operating systems and support.
Its amazing how a corparate OS was reviewed by the reviewer. At one point, I expected he would bitch about "game" support etc.
Wake up guys. That is NOT an OS to use at home. Allthough it can be used, its not the purpose of it.
Its name "eCom" lights a clue? Its for e-commerce etc. Well, read this "spec" and decide yourself how bad it was reviewed. http://www.ecomstation.com/product_info .phtml
I am a win2k professional user, I don't even think to migrate to that OS, since its not RIGHT for my user profile. But it doesn't give me right to say "its dead". I'd sound funny to IT pros, thats all. Sorry to say (I know this post will be at -1 or something, so nvm), Novell isn't right for home too. So, if you don't see it running on your friends house, it doesn't mean "its dead" too.
Also "Don't install to mission critical machines since it disables dual boot"? Oh give me a break... That guy is paid to review?
Opera 7 does it. In fact, it does more... You can drag a browser tab to windows taskbar and make it seperated from browser. Than you can keep that window open or drag to secondary monitor.
While I don't like Sun's Java, which they didn't even care to update Installshield causing problems (read my other replies), I don't agree with this one: "On nearly every system I've used Sun's Java on, the Microsoft has taken up less ram, run faster, crashed less often, and basically been a smaller pain in the ass. There will be people who will scream that Microsoft has sabotaged Sun, but I don't think it has anything to do with that. And even if it does, at this point forcing end users to use Sun's Java is just going to deter people from wanting to use it at all."
Erm, the JVM you use is roughly 3-4 years old. Its 1.0 , while Sun is serving 2.0 for 1-2 years.
So, its like running Quake 1 on a machine and bitching about how slow quake 3 is, compared to quake 1.
that's the new creation of Pud, owner of http://www.fuckedcompany.com . Those 2 has thousands of paid (yes, and really expensive) subscribers who generally likes to drive limos:)
Pud has a good reputation. I mean, it could sound funny but if you think even NY Times has to quote fuckedcompany.com like f****company.com sometimes on market pages, it may give a clue.
There is something absolutely wrong on JRE Win32. As a developer (I guess you are), go and get JRE 1.3.02 or something from Sun. Install on a modern machine with more than 10gb of disk space, you'll get "not enough disk space on machine" error. Guess why? They didn't update their installer platform (Installshield) until 1.4.x
They couldn't figure how NOT TO MAKE PEOPLE PARANOID by preventing showing Java non working ActiveX'es as damaged etc.
Web will really shake after Sun java comes with Windows OS'es... Sadly, it will break reputation of Java more in eyes of end users.
You should someday install Sun JRE and see how Java conspires this excellent browser (opera 6,7.x) and probably others.
Its NOT compatible with many sites and of course, Sun does not provide a good tool to cleanup/help MS JVM spesific code for FREE. (Yes, MS does it right?) So, "haha, lamer bastards, they don't know how to code" won't help. We speak about huge sites like Yahoo etc which goes mad with Sun Java here.
As a user (yes, I am) when you complain, you read same redundant story that how MS conspired java etc. I know. I used OS/2 even, I know which games they played. They question here is, what SUN DOES to prevent people not to use MS Java variant spesific stuff.
I was on Opera forums just 10 mins ago, I just counted 2-3 threads complaining about "bad browser not displaying java". Heh... If they knew about it wasn't Opera's fault. Anyway, nobody has to know everything.
People, who love it , use it. Advertising supported or buying it actually.
Whats your fucking deal with a browser you hate that much and prefer AOL/Gecko based browsers?
I mean, we use it. They listen to their CUSTOMERS (customers also include people didn't crack the browser, viewing ads), add the features to browser.
Go back to your mozilla compiling or something, geez, 6 million downloaders of Opera 7 are happy or they are sending feedbacks with a clue to Opera so browser is improving.
I never remember myself running and posting crap about Netscape 7 which in my eyes, a failed project.
Opera 7 also showed that if you start from strach, the program doesn't have to get bigger or suck. You get what I mean?;-)
I use Opera as a registered user since 6, now I bought it again, the 7 (paid for upgrade).
As a Opera fan I totally believe you are correct.
First of all, Mac is a "cult" with their OWN style of usage (try to make a windows user triple click), anyone not bothering the design guidelines will be dead.
I saw people b*tching about Safari, like it has no tabs. Maybe Mac users doesn't like tabs?
The OSX graphics rendering acceleration (I forgot its name) has NOT been applied on IE, Opera. So, think you have a quad-xeon 2 gig machine but an lowest quality graphics card, without ANY acceleration,nor a driver. You use it 24 bit, via frame buffer (donno if it can be made). I wonder how long it would take for you to run and buy the most compatible gfx card for that PC. As I heard from my Mac friends, its just like that. The display speed of pages really really sucks. Whatever mac you use, it does. I guess they figured it will be hard to sell that browser, thats all. Oh, I wouldn't call it "whining". No, they don't whine. They pay wages with the registration/advertising money. They are people earning food money from that browser, not some hobyists with spare time. Its right decision for any company to drop a unsuscessful product or they will lose money and the people like me, using windows version with love will be harmed from that. Increased license fees, less people for support etc, or $100b;-) I couldn't stand sorry, eheh
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Overture purchased fast.no , the norwegian engine who's behind alltheweb.com, Amazon, Ebay etc. so I won't be surprised if they switch to fast.no, one another tech marvel on search engines.
I currently use Opera 7.x (licensed) and alltheweb is my default now.
Oh against "google uses linux" flamers, alltheweb runs on *nix too.
no, it offers free player. You disable all those online feautures, its not "spyware" anymore.
Bitch about Real Networks on Slashdot, it will give you karma... Heh
I really wonder the first moron to claim RealOne player is spyware, on this topic.
Also pointing me down is kinda same thing. Thats why I don't use "no karma bonus" button unchecked first time.
Apple's nr1 problem...
In Istanbul/Turkey too... They rape us. When you bitch about it, they tell "Apple's global policy"...
Their importer wen't broke (like chap. 11 in USA), than was bought by the biggest holding of Turkey, not changed...
Whatever... They don't help themselves, which I , as a guy hating from Wintel can save (!) Apple.
Don't blame people over that. I am interested in huge projects like that, so I naturally checked the yahoo,google etc for info etc.
Half of the stuff was from the "green" organisations, some of them clearly gets money from "rival" goverments to bitch about the project.
I don't go mad to such stuff, we had similar problems (not naming country for needless off topic crap).
Its how International rivalry works, since beginning of 20th century.
One of the main reasons of building three gorges is interestingly to stop floods which effects hundreds of millions of people. Not just the power.
Anyways, this old green-politics game will go on like that...
I hate to be reduntant, but half of OS/2 is coded by Microsoft, yes that microsoft.
They played (together) one of the dirtiest corparate chesses in computing history, at point, IBM lost.
NT got many, many features from OS/2, including codebase... anyway, long story.
I still wonder how come Microsoft gave it up. HPFS, one of excellent features of OS/2 (in FAT ages) was coded by a ms engineer even.
Corparates, who actually buy operating systems and support.
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Its amazing how a corparate OS was reviewed by the reviewer. At one point, I expected he would bitch about "game" support etc.
Wake up guys. That is NOT an OS to use at home. Allthough it can be used, its not the purpose of it.
Its name "eCom" lights a clue? Its for e-commerce etc. Well, read this "spec" and decide yourself how bad it was reviewed.
http://www.ecomstation.com/product_inf
I am a win2k professional user, I don't even think to migrate to that OS, since its not RIGHT for my user profile. But it doesn't give me right to say "its dead". I'd sound funny to IT pros, thats all. Sorry to say (I know this post will be at -1 or something, so nvm), Novell isn't right for home too. So, if you don't see it running on your friends house, it doesn't mean "its dead" too.
Also "Don't install to mission critical machines since it disables dual boot"? Oh give me a break... That guy is paid to review?
anyway, -1 me now...
"I did buy version 6. When 7 came out with no cheaper upgrade option, I decided not to pay the registration fee. "
I bought version 6, than for version 7, I paid just $15. You should check better
Yes, I agree.
On Epson inkjets, they use piezo-electric printing technology. You just buy the ink.
I'd pay for something better than CD. 24bit sound, 5.1 channels. That would make people pay.
Oh 5.1 channels isn't a must, but 24 bit would be cool. What they do is,trying to sell stuff which you can find from p2p already.
Check my .sig... :)
Opera 7 does it. In fact, it does more... You can drag a browser tab to windows taskbar and make it seperated from browser. Than you can keep that window open or drag to secondary monitor.
yeap, the time Apple moves to 64bit/RISC, I am selling my p4 crap. Or if I can't manage to sell, will use it for host/firewall etc via FreeBSD
As he says, its made by W3C dom, maybe a CSS trick could help?
:)
Opera is good at CSS tricks, I wonder why?
Maybe first time I see you post on Slashdot but replying to a troll? :)
;-)
So, nobody, even CSS inventor isn't immune to trolls or people didn't read the RTFA
Um because its not written by microsoft and Mozilla/Gecko code including its clan sux for some people?
Opera 7 registered user...
Its a joke. a JOKE edition. To show some reality. Understand!?!? Joke EDITION.
You are waste of bandwidth on Slashdot.
It was validated by Opensource WGET.
Yes, MSN sends crap CSS to Opera.
Yes, MS takes Opera serious, they are being losing ground on mobile market, TO OPERA, not Moz/Netscape.
No you didn't read the press release, did you?
While I don't like Sun's Java, which they didn't even care to update Installshield causing problems (read my other replies), I don't agree with this one:
"On nearly every system I've used Sun's Java on, the Microsoft has taken up less ram, run faster, crashed less often, and basically been a smaller pain in the ass. There will be people who will scream that Microsoft has sabotaged Sun, but I don't think it has anything to do with that. And even if it does, at this point forcing end users to use Sun's Java is just going to deter people from wanting to use it at all."
Erm, the JVM you use is roughly 3-4 years old. Its 1.0 , while Sun is serving 2.0 for 1-2 years.
So, its like running Quake 1 on a machine and bitching about how slow quake 3 is, compared to quake 1.
that's the new creation of Pud, owner of http://www.fuckedcompany.com . Those 2 has thousands of paid (yes, and really expensive) subscribers who generally likes to drive limos :)
Pud has a good reputation. I mean, it could sound funny but if you think even NY Times has to quote fuckedcompany.com like f****company.com sometimes on market pages, it may give a clue.
There is something absolutely wrong on JRE Win32. As a developer (I guess you are), go and get JRE 1.3.02 or something from Sun. Install on a modern machine with more than 10gb of disk space, you'll get "not enough disk space on machine" error. Guess why? They didn't update their installer platform (Installshield) until 1.4.x
They couldn't figure how NOT TO MAKE PEOPLE PARANOID by preventing showing Java non working ActiveX'es as damaged etc.
Web will really shake after Sun java comes with Windows OS'es... Sadly, it will break reputation of Java more in eyes of end users.
Yes!
You should someday install Sun JRE and see how Java conspires this excellent browser (opera 6,7.x) and probably others.
Its NOT compatible with many sites and of course, Sun does not provide a good tool to cleanup/help MS JVM spesific code for FREE. (Yes, MS does it right?) So, "haha, lamer bastards, they don't know how to code" won't help. We speak about huge sites like Yahoo etc which goes mad with Sun Java here.
As a user (yes, I am) when you complain, you read same redundant story that how MS conspired java etc. I know. I used OS/2 even, I know which games they played. They question here is, what SUN DOES to prevent people not to use MS Java variant spesific stuff.
I was on Opera forums just 10 mins ago, I just counted 2-3 threads complaining about "bad browser not displaying java". Heh... If they knew about it wasn't Opera's fault. Anyway, nobody has to know everything.
Blackbird the plane? SR-71?
People, who love it , use it. Advertising supported or buying it actually.
;-)
Whats your fucking deal with a browser you hate that much and prefer AOL/Gecko based browsers?
I mean, we use it. They listen to their CUSTOMERS (customers also include people didn't crack the browser, viewing ads), add the features to browser.
Go back to your mozilla compiling or something, geez, 6 million downloaders of Opera 7 are happy or they are sending feedbacks with a clue to Opera so browser is improving.
I never remember myself running and posting crap about Netscape 7 which in my eyes, a failed project.
Opera 7 also showed that if you start from strach, the program doesn't have to get bigger or suck. You get what I mean?
I use Opera as a registered user since 6, now I bought it again, the 7 (paid for upgrade).
;-) I couldn't stand sorry, eheh
As a Opera fan I totally believe you are correct.
First of all, Mac is a "cult" with their OWN style of usage (try to make a windows user triple click), anyone not bothering the design guidelines will be dead.
I saw people b*tching about Safari, like it has no tabs. Maybe Mac users doesn't like tabs?
The OSX graphics rendering acceleration (I forgot its name) has NOT been applied on IE, Opera. So, think you have a quad-xeon 2 gig machine but an lowest quality graphics card, without ANY acceleration,nor a driver. You use it 24 bit, via frame buffer (donno if it can be made). I wonder how long it would take for you to run and buy the most compatible gfx card for that PC. As I heard from my Mac friends, its just like that. The display speed of pages really really sucks. Whatever mac you use, it does.
I guess they figured it will be hard to sell that browser, thats all.
Oh, I wouldn't call it "whining". No, they don't whine. They pay wages with the registration/advertising money. They are people earning food money from that browser, not some hobyists with spare time. Its right decision for any company to drop a unsuscessful product or they will lose money and the people like me, using windows version with love will be harmed from that. Increased license fees, less people for support etc, or $100b