those lawsuits only shows the problem that software patents are bullshit. it doesn't even show that most contributions from people with company emails are causing any problem with their companies.
whether there's privacy or not depends on ethics and security of service provider. there's also the possibility of google web service software running on a private server (maybe they even open source the stuff someday). Some web based services have taken off hugely, like email and http servers. The delay and lag depend on the network infrastructure, been getting better over the last 20 years. The real barrier to office-type software being web based I think is mostly getting people to use what is necessary rather than bloat and cruft to accomplish 95% of what office docs need to do. We're mostly doing what used to be done with a single-font typewriter or printer and a copier and scissors/paste, but in full color, multiple fonts and visual effects, and taking five times as long to produce these (f)artworks.
haha, you have to have a good imagination to have any idea what the doc will look like. LaTeX is all about the logic of the document, and most people would rather worry about the appearance. Horrible collaboration toolset there, might look better but be wrong if someone forgets or ignores another's cvs update.
but software patents are nothing like the other IP, we're talking about mathematical algorithms, basically. nonsense to call that patentable IP. And the Patent Office has made a disaster of that, software can and should be copyrighted but that's it. anything else is as absurd as the patent of scientific principles
that reminds me when I went into Elek-Tek in 1987 having made up my mind to buy one of their $2K+ 10MHz AT clones. eight or more people talking with each other and on the phone for over 25 minutes in the central cash-register/service box and totally ignoring all the customers wanting to buy things. Finally I yelled "Who Wants to Sell a Computer???!!!!!!". That worked, someone did sell me one though most of them just glared at me like who was I to interrupt their good time?
Computer worked great for many years, but I didn't shop there at Elek-Tek much after that, did better in mom & pop shops for most of my add-ons.
oh, so a slave is worth three-fifths a normal human being? the constitution has undergone HUGE changes since it was first written. where is the corresponding self-improvement mechanism for the patent system? Admitting there are now new things that the patent system improperly addresses (like this newfangled computer software thang) is a first step to such an improvement.
you can read on centos site how updates lag, and also about differences in the admin system which I mentioned. how is that trolling? I think centos is great alternative to redhat for those who don't want redhat support. It also just happens the government agency clients I mainly do work for must use redhat as a Linux distro for a number of reasons.
is the gear and support contracts in millions of dollars? for the support contracts our clients have we have to go through everything with a fine-toothed comb, to kernel version, firmware versions, app version minor number etc. No unsupported OS version is allowed
I agree CentOS is *good*, I've installed it at a manufacturing plant that prefers to use in-house and T&M based support. But in very large enterprise environments the folk from Hitachi, Veritas, EMC, etc. are actually going to be on site and on the machines and SAN gear at times, your trick won't work in that case, and those who manage IT aren't going to go for that anyway, too risky to contracts & warranties
there's another rogue system called Windoze, this college punk Billy-Boy BungGate wanted to start a software business, but after struggling for years to write a system to manage the resources of a computer he was only able to produce a buggy deficient BASIC interpreter on paper tape which could only run on an deficient Altair system no one wanted to buy. Ashamed of himself and his puny intellect, he then stole a hacked-up program loader QDOS and conned IBM execs into thinking it was an actual operating system. By the time people with actual technical expertise discovered the fraud, it was too late, DOS had already hit the shelves and bought by people falsely believing they were purchasing an actual operating system. To this day the glorified program loader wrapped in layers of cruft known as Windoze continues to give evidence of its unstable core as it "blue screens" in datacenters and businesses around the world. This has effectively held back the state of computer science, software engineering and computation by at least 20 years, but legions of computer users are none the wiser.
bwahaha, the issue here is one closed proprietary package not being certified with other closed source proprietary packages on Linux. The open and giving spirit of OSS isn't even relevant.
but big enterprise doesn't think that way, they want certified compatibility and adherence to the letter of support contracts. Good luck calling EMC or Hitachi and saying your CentOS has problems accessing your 20TB disk array with a given HBA and switch. You'd void your warranty right then and there. As an aside, CentOS lags RedHat in patches, and also has to rewrite parts of the redhat admin system, it isn't 100% the same.
yes, grandparent poster can look it up, a.45 or 9mm is 155+ db, a 357 magnum 160+ db, even the lowly.38 special 153. No car stereo or boom box ever made sounds like that, you'd go painfully deaf if that level of sound lasted even a second.
I find the 9mm higher pitched but not quieter than.45 ACP. Even lowly.38 special out of my snub nosed Ruger SP101 has a roar under the high pitched crack that no one is ever going to mistake for a firecracker.
Why, man is a nuisance. He eats up his food supply in the forest, then migrates to our green belts and ravages our crops. The sooner he is exterminated, the better. It's a question of simian survival. == Dr. Zaius
what a load of crap, the carbon from 20 billion gallons of aviation fuel used in a year in the U.S. are small compared to gasoline (over 150 billion gallons) or diesel (over 70 billion) or natural gas.
they tried that but it was a big problem when it came time to change the batteries (they did it twice a year at daylight saving time, made it easier to remember since they also did the smoke and CO detectors), they could never find the damn thing until the batteries started to go. and the battery low warning beeping really was annoying too.
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and cars won't start unless a key is inserted and turned in the ignition or the button on the remote is pressed. don't BTFA just because you RTFA
the motivation for France's opposition to the Iraq war was because their president Chirac was in Saddam's pocket
those lawsuits only shows the problem that software patents are bullshit. it doesn't even show that most contributions from people with company emails are causing any problem with their companies.
whether there's privacy or not depends on ethics and security of service provider. there's also the possibility of google web service software running on a private server (maybe they even open source the stuff someday). Some web based services have taken off hugely, like email and http servers. The delay and lag depend on the network infrastructure, been getting better over the last 20 years. The real barrier to office-type software being web based I think is mostly getting people to use what is necessary rather than bloat and cruft to accomplish 95% of what office docs need to do. We're mostly doing what used to be done with a single-font typewriter or printer and a copier and scissors/paste, but in full color, multiple fonts and visual effects, and taking five times as long to produce these (f)artworks.
haha, you have to have a good imagination to have any idea what the doc will look like. LaTeX is all about the logic of the document, and most people would rather worry about the appearance. Horrible collaboration toolset there, might look better but be wrong if someone forgets or ignores another's cvs update.
but software patents are nothing like the other IP, we're talking about mathematical algorithms, basically. nonsense to call that patentable IP. And the Patent Office has made a disaster of that, software can and should be copyrighted but that's it. anything else is as absurd as the patent of scientific principles
that reminds me when I went into Elek-Tek in 1987 having made up my mind to buy one of their $2K+ 10MHz AT clones. eight or more people talking with each other and on the phone for over 25 minutes in the central cash-register/service box and totally ignoring all the customers wanting to buy things. Finally I yelled "Who Wants to Sell a Computer???!!!!!!". That worked, someone did sell me one though most of them just glared at me like who was I to interrupt their good time? Computer worked great for many years, but I didn't shop there at Elek-Tek much after that, did better in mom & pop shops for most of my add-ons.
oh, so a slave is worth three-fifths a normal human being? the constitution has undergone HUGE changes since it was first written. where is the corresponding self-improvement mechanism for the patent system? Admitting there are now new things that the patent system improperly addresses (like this newfangled computer software thang) is a first step to such an improvement.
hmmm, were you throwing nifty things in the dumpster while working in Accessories?
yowzah, a car stereo that can reproduce jet engine noise at full volume. or a howitzer firing, for that matter.
you can read on centos site how updates lag, and also about differences in the admin system which I mentioned. how is that trolling? I think centos is great alternative to redhat for those who don't want redhat support. It also just happens the government agency clients I mainly do work for must use redhat as a Linux distro for a number of reasons.
not to worry, their lead in adopting technology to invade privacy and spy on their citizenry will soon allow those people to be brought to heel
is the gear and support contracts in millions of dollars? for the support contracts our clients have we have to go through everything with a fine-toothed comb, to kernel version, firmware versions, app version minor number etc. No unsupported OS version is allowed
I agree CentOS is *good*, I've installed it at a manufacturing plant that prefers to use in-house and T&M based support. But in very large enterprise environments the folk from Hitachi, Veritas, EMC, etc. are actually going to be on site and on the machines and SAN gear at times, your trick won't work in that case, and those who manage IT aren't going to go for that anyway, too risky to contracts & warranties
worth mentioning that HP does support RedHat, SuSE and Debian.
there's another rogue system called Windoze, this college punk Billy-Boy BungGate wanted to start a software business, but after struggling for years to write a system to manage the resources of a computer he was only able to produce a buggy deficient BASIC interpreter on paper tape which could only run on an deficient Altair system no one wanted to buy. Ashamed of himself and his puny intellect, he then stole a hacked-up program loader QDOS and conned IBM execs into thinking it was an actual operating system. By the time people with actual technical expertise discovered the fraud, it was too late, DOS had already hit the shelves and bought by people falsely believing they were purchasing an actual operating system. To this day the glorified program loader wrapped in layers of cruft known as Windoze continues to give evidence of its unstable core as it "blue screens" in datacenters and businesses around the world. This has effectively held back the state of computer science, software engineering and computation by at least 20 years, but legions of computer users are none the wiser.
bwahaha, the issue here is one closed proprietary package not being certified with other closed source proprietary packages on Linux. The open and giving spirit of OSS isn't even relevant.
but big enterprise doesn't think that way, they want certified compatibility and adherence to the letter of support contracts. Good luck calling EMC or Hitachi and saying your CentOS has problems accessing your 20TB disk array with a given HBA and switch. You'd void your warranty right then and there. As an aside, CentOS lags RedHat in patches, and also has to rewrite parts of the redhat admin system, it isn't 100% the same.
yes, grandparent poster can look it up, a .45 or 9mm is 155+ db, a 357 magnum 160+ db, even the lowly .38 special 153. No car stereo or boom box ever made sounds like that, you'd go painfully deaf if that level of sound lasted even a second.
I find the 9mm higher pitched but not quieter than .45 ACP. Even lowly .38 special out of my snub nosed Ruger SP101 has a roar under the high pitched crack that no one is ever going to mistake for a firecracker.
indeed, only 80 idiots with children easily offended for irrational reasons out there? I would have thought many more.
Why, man is a nuisance. He eats up his food supply in the forest, then migrates to our green belts and ravages our crops. The sooner he is exterminated, the better. It's a question of simian survival. == Dr. Zaius
what a load of crap, the carbon from 20 billion gallons of aviation fuel used in a year in the U.S. are small compared to gasoline (over 150 billion gallons) or diesel (over 70 billion) or natural gas.
with 0.5% of browsers out there being Opera, I'd say your wait will be long indeed. No need for any company to even take the time to test with it.
lack of apps for the common user? The only thing lacking for the average user is a tax package. It's the only reason I fire up windows anymore.
I hear some windows folk sometimes have hardware issues too.
they tried that but it was a big problem when it came time to change the batteries (they did it twice a year at daylight saving time, made it easier to remember since they also did the smoke and CO detectors), they could never find the damn thing until the batteries started to go. and the battery low warning beeping really was annoying too.