More useful for us and profitable for them would be for them to put their full weight behind Linux, to make it run well on all their hardware all the way up the the big enterprise boxes. They're already "giving away" Solaris, does it really matter which OS the customer runs (and on the high end partitionable boxes they could run multiple OS). The customer would get freedom and the ability to run even more software
You're assuming that computers will always be able to run free software, and that the networks and storage devices will be free to transmit and store any content. These freedoms are under attack.
I wouldn't call Solaris 9 and 10 for x86 mature, they're new. Solaris on Ultrasparc is mature. There are some definite issues for porting software from one to the other, and who knows how well vendors of commercial software will do at that?
mostly that "commercial software that linux still lacks" won't run on x86 Solaris either. Sun won't make money with these workstations, they're just loss leaders to try to grab mindshare for Solaris, except that at the mid and high end you then have to port to UltraSparc even if you're mind is with their program. Doomed, I'd say.
I was going to say, for $7.50 / hour plus marginal or no health plan and having to work doubly hard around holidays, the cashier is supposed to give a shit?
downloads mean NOTHING, I work in big datacenters, and Linux use is growing while the Sun boxes are being mothballed. Enterprises don't use Sun's J2EE server crap, they pay money for weblogic and IBM and such (Oracle and Sun can't even GIVE their Java server wares away). So they're number five in x86-64, but that means #1 to #4 is eating their lunch. Sun is struggling.
Actually, it's children and young women who on the average can hear the highest frequencies, testosterone causes hearing decline for males starting at age 17. 22KHz is usually given for upper limit of human hearing, but some people can hear sounds much higher than even the 30KHz you mention. My hearing used to go into upper 20KHz until about age 30, I worked at national lab that tested hearing periodically. Even now in my early 40's I can hear shriek of vibration of horizontal sweep transformers in TVs and whine of little fans they put in some small network switches though top of my range is less than 20Khz now.
"Since our goal is to have every person in the middle east using big loud guns against the gawdless infidels who threaten our national security and oil supply, we don't think high frequency noises and noise pollution will be much of a threat in our vision for the future."
not to mention you can build high-performance db2 clusters, someday postgresql will be able to do that, doubtful mysql could ever be that advanced, it's a toy
now you've done it, when this regeneration technology gets perfected insecure males will be chopping off their privy members in order to grow A BIG ONE...
Various protestant groups have also executed and tortured people for being some other flavor of Christianity, or other religion. And as an aside, for writing Catholicism != Christianity, either saying or refuting that would have gotten you killed, imprisoned or tortured by various "Christian" groups at various times and places. Nothing says Christian love and charity like sending people to hell, I guess.
you're right, and I only used RCC as example. Got modded "troll" in less than five minutes too, proving my point. Note that I don't treat any person badly or even differently because of their religion, and I myself come from a background of a religion that has done evil things too. Most all of my friends and relatives are of various organized religions that are doing and historically have done very bad things. But I'm saying its important to have the right to point out the bad things organized religions have done and are doing; while not harming any person or inciting hate for any person.
looks like you're responding to other posts as well as mine. I was just pointing out certain distros probably won't live beyond the life or interest of any one person, and other more team-oriented ones will (and for at least two of the BSD this is likely true too). Would be a very fun hobby, but to make the thing live on might want to consider making a team out of the more enthusiastic of your users
Large organized religions, especially Islam and Christianity, have been a curse to mankind, the cause of hundreds of millions of deaths and the worst cruelties, and continued poverty and ignorance. As an example of how brainwashed we are on the subject, point out how evil the nazis were and normal people agree; point out the Roman Catholic Church has murdered and persecuted more Jews than Hitler, and all of a sudden you get labelled as "intolerant". uh-huh....
heh, you prove the point: since you're the creator and maintainer the distro will only last as long as your interest in it or your life span, anyone else would be kind of silly to use it for production. My guess is slackware and ubuntu would only really last a short time beyond the lifespan of their leaders. For that matter, if Linus T. takes up another hobby or goes to the big happy hackery in the sky, I could see the Linux kernel flying apart in at least four major directions.
How is any such system going to defend against the most obvious form of attack against a planet, an attack with kinetic energy? Give a mile or more diameter asteroid sufficent velocity and send to collide with earth and what could we do about it with less than a year warning? Nothing, that's what.
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More useful for us and profitable for them would be for them to put their full weight behind Linux, to make it run well on all their hardware all the way up the the big enterprise boxes. They're already "giving away" Solaris, does it really matter which OS the customer runs (and on the high end partitionable boxes they could run multiple OS). The customer would get freedom and the ability to run even more software
you mean like online banking and bill paying and mortgage applications? naw, we'd never put those on the net ;)
You're assuming that computers will always be able to run free software, and that the networks and storage devices will be free to transmit and store any content. These freedoms are under attack.
I wouldn't call Solaris 9 and 10 for x86 mature, they're new. Solaris on Ultrasparc is mature. There are some definite issues for porting software from one to the other, and who knows how well vendors of commercial software will do at that?
mostly that "commercial software that linux still lacks" won't run on x86 Solaris either. Sun won't make money with these workstations, they're just loss leaders to try to grab mindshare for Solaris, except that at the mid and high end you then have to port to UltraSparc even if you're mind is with their program. Doomed, I'd say.
I was going to say, for $7.50 / hour plus marginal or no health plan and having to work doubly hard around holidays, the cashier is supposed to give a shit?
downloads mean NOTHING, I work in big datacenters, and Linux use is growing while the Sun boxes are being mothballed. Enterprises don't use Sun's J2EE server crap, they pay money for weblogic and IBM and such (Oracle and Sun can't even GIVE their Java server wares away). So they're number five in x86-64, but that means #1 to #4 is eating their lunch. Sun is struggling.
following Linux kernel + distros, because it's been so successful and grabbing so much server market
Sun's floating more trial balloons in order to counter decreasing mind and market share, none of them a new idea, just following.
Actually, it's children and young women who on the average can hear the highest frequencies, testosterone causes hearing decline for males starting at age 17. 22KHz is usually given for upper limit of human hearing, but some people can hear sounds much higher than even the 30KHz you mention. My hearing used to go into upper 20KHz until about age 30, I worked at national lab that tested hearing periodically. Even now in my early 40's I can hear shriek of vibration of horizontal sweep transformers in TVs and whine of little fans they put in some small network switches though top of my range is less than 20Khz now.
"Since our goal is to have every person in the middle east using big loud guns against the gawdless infidels who threaten our national security and oil supply, we don't think high frequency noises and noise pollution will be much of a threat in our vision for the future."
-- G.Dubbyah Shrub
Debian focuses on making everything work on 12 architectures, while these other distros are more focused on platforms where Oracle can run.
not to mention you can build high-performance db2 clusters, someday postgresql will be able to do that, doubtful mysql could ever be that advanced, it's a toy
here are the Linux distros which are validated (including Ubuntu x86) and also those "validated and reccommended"
sure, bludgeon the little shit to death first
and how sad the surgeon who developed the Bobbit Weave
now you've done it, when this regeneration technology gets perfected insecure males will be chopping off their privy members in order to grow A BIG ONE...
I'd take a functional but somewhat non-matching limb over no limb or prosthetic limb any day of the week. And you can always lop the extra ones off.
Various protestant groups have also executed and tortured people for being some other flavor of Christianity, or other religion. And as an aside, for writing Catholicism != Christianity, either saying or refuting that would have gotten you killed, imprisoned or tortured by various "Christian" groups at various times and places. Nothing says Christian love and charity like sending people to hell, I guess.
but without Church sanction
you seem to be forgetting about people who were burned at the stake throughout history by RC Church officials, including mass execution of jews.
belief in God
I didn't say belief in God was bad or makes us bad, using torture and murder against those with different beliefs is.
you're right, and I only used RCC as example. Got modded "troll" in less than five minutes too, proving my point. Note that I don't treat any person badly or even differently because of their religion, and I myself come from a background of a religion that has done evil things too. Most all of my friends and relatives are of various organized religions that are doing and historically have done very bad things. But I'm saying its important to have the right to point out the bad things organized religions have done and are doing; while not harming any person or inciting hate for any person.
looks like you're responding to other posts as well as mine. I was just pointing out certain distros probably won't live beyond the life or interest of any one person, and other more team-oriented ones will (and for at least two of the BSD this is likely true too). Would be a very fun hobby, but to make the thing live on might want to consider making a team out of the more enthusiastic of your users
Large organized religions, especially Islam and Christianity, have been a curse to mankind, the cause of hundreds of millions of deaths and the worst cruelties, and continued poverty and ignorance. As an example of how brainwashed we are on the subject, point out how evil the nazis were and normal people agree; point out the Roman Catholic Church has murdered and persecuted more Jews than Hitler, and all of a sudden you get labelled as "intolerant". uh-huh....
heh, you prove the point: since you're the creator and maintainer the distro will only last as long as your interest in it or your life span, anyone else would be kind of silly to use it for production. My guess is slackware and ubuntu would only really last a short time beyond the lifespan of their leaders. For that matter, if Linus T. takes up another hobby or goes to the big happy hackery in the sky, I could see the Linux kernel flying apart in at least four major directions.
How is any such system going to defend against the most obvious form of attack against a planet, an attack with kinetic energy? Give a mile or more diameter asteroid sufficent velocity and send to collide with earth and what could we do about it with less than a year warning? Nothing, that's what.