Actually, things did not go well for those particular people. Many of them starved to death and died homeless.
However, the next generation was okay and basically ignored the tragedy.
Probably be the same this time too. if 25% can't find work or housing-- then after 20 years, as a society, we'll just ignore the fact that that happened.
I'm for red light cameras IF combined with a countdown and a minimum 2.5 second yellow.
We have those in town and you always have plenty of warning since they start at 20 seconds from the time the light change to red.
Red light cameras in many cases increase the number of accidents at intersections- transforming them from Tbone's to front/rear accidents. That should reduce the fatalities and in some cases it has slightly but in others it hasn't. I guess it depends on the intersection.
I'm very wary of freeway feeder intersections- even with red light cameras they are the source of horrific T'bones. When a freeway feeder light changes I look to see if anyone is zooming along at 50mph before I start moving. I'll often wait a second for the cars closer to that side to move and get in the way. In the last 2 years alone, I saw four incredible accidents at those intersections. Car's instantly smashed, broken in 2, thrown over 30' breaking everything in their paths.
When you combine a red light camera with a shortened yellow (as they've been caught doing repeatedly), it's purely about making money.
Comcast is trying to raise bandwidth/price for internet to make the exercise pointless but their is competition on raw bandwidth so I can get it for 1/3 to 1/2 the price.
I currently have both services. But it's been 30 days and the other service is working fine so Comcast goes before the next billing cycle.
You know at $100 a month- that's $12000 dollars over 10 years??? Ignoring investment returns, that's a huge chunk of money. With investment returns, it's probably $20,000 -- i.e. a NEW car or 4 trips to Europe/Asia.
They basically had incredibly thin flexible suits which were sprayed on most of the body and dissolved chemically off of them afterwards.
Most of the body just needs pressure containment and protection from exposure. You could put on a non pressurized heat protective layer on top of the pressure layer of the suit.
I think we have the fabrics to do this now- just not spray / dissolve.
But much simpler suits- not more complicated. Separate the heat/cold protection from the pressure layer. Two or more piece/layers.
Computers are replacing (not augmenting) humans in huge numbers very rapidly over the last 10 years. At my last company, they were laying off thousands through automation and planned to eliminate roughly 35,000 jobs over the next decade (reducing the multi billion dollar company from 75,000 staff to 40,000 very rapidly).
Robotics just cuts out people who have an IQ of 100 or less and depended on being able to see and manipulate things with their hands getting them work.
I think you missed my point. There is no luddite solution. And the change is coming irrevocably now. There will not be enough work. Almost any job you can create will be subject to automation if you make more than the annual cost of running a computer or robot.
Robots are under $20,000 per year now (more like $8000 per year annualized and $3000 per year in environments where there are three shifts).
The market in robotics is exploding. Huge sales and volume over the last few years. It's going to happen. The question is- how do we treat non workin citizens when we really truly only need a third of working age people to work to produce and manage everything.
I.e. the best address in town. i.e. the best school in town. i.e. the best beach front/ski lodge resort property. i.e. Kobe beef. i.e. A genuine 1937 Mickey Mantle baseball card (one of three left). i.e. A house build by Frank Lloyd Wright.
"You hire a gardener to mow your lawn, painter to paint your house"... both of which will be done by robots within the next 20 years-- better, faster, and cheaper than by humans.
I agree on the concentration being a short to mid term issue. It's less significant when all but the rare stuff (beachfront property- genuine rare art/memorabilia- prime ski resort property) becomes inexpensive. For example- non-rare food (i.e. not including Kobe Beef) is going to become increasingly inexpensive going forward.
One way to allow people to earn money going forward is to lower the work week. Another is just say, "Okay- everyone gets basic shelter, food, and a stipend." There are probably other soulutions.
But robots are different. They will be able to do ANYTHING a human does except create new things (I give that another 100 years- tho they can "fake" creativity (basically permutations) now).
It's not long. And I don't think people will be ready to cope with the change. They haven't thought about what a tool which completely replaces a human and which costs less than a human salary means.
At least a generation of severe disruption and even after that very likely structural unemployment over 25%. You will need to change society in some fundamental ways. Basic income is one possibility.
You (and the colonoscopy below) need to negotiate in advance.
I have friends who have both payed less (a LOT less).
My dentist offers me 75% of the insured price for cash.
Friend got her colonoscopy for $750.
She had to wait 3 months and come in at 8am. SAME place insured, it was over $1500 (my portion was $358), I came in on 1 week advance notice at 9am.
Otherwise- same procedure. Maybe even the same doctor.
The approach is, "I have cash- I'm shopping on price- what do you charge for this?"
Obviously doesn't work for emergency care but I read about one person who prearranged their knee surgery (anesthesiologist & all) for less than my insurance co-pay.
In fact, I suspect increasingly the co-pay is the real price.
I read that the rate of serious skydiving accidents (often fatal but not always) was 1:5000 jumps for experienced skydivers. Some of them are probably less careful than others.
But that's still pretty high. About the same as the broken leg/blow acl for skiers (about 1:6000).
Less people sky dive. Basically every skiing day- multiple people come down on stretchers with ruined knees and legs. You can mitigate that- but a friend had her knee blown when a reckless hot shot blindsided her.
Of course--- I'd consider just about the safest thing you could do to be exiting a toll booth stop and someone died here last friday. The dump truck to their left took a 90 degree right turn, smashed them into the barricade and their gas tank exploded. That set off the dump truck fuel which burned for hours. They are speculating the dump truck driver had a heart attack as he exited the toll booth.
The navy yard shooting isn't really a good example because the vast majority of people in the navy yard are not allowed to carry guns and those that do are open carry types like base police.
Having a gun won't prevent the first few casualties. It might stop a shooting incident from escalating to more dying.
Even licensed carriers are humans and may be enraged and lose control. I don't own a gun because based on my life experience it would only raise the risk in my family (grandkids might get it, I might have a misfire, I might be enraged and stupid sometime).
They need queues with bullet resistant glass leading to metal detectors.
Having a gun doesn't stop someone from pulling out a gun and shooting you. Having a gun doesn't help when the shooter is in a mass of bystanders waiting in line.
If you split off the people who fail a preliminary metal detector test THEN that area could have someone with a gun.
But even there an bullet resistant airlock system would be better.
Well, for one thing, you already are? If you buy commercially sold fuel, you are paying a fuel tax already.
I think you can get farm diesel but it's a different color and the hassle is enough you wouldn't do it unless you had a serious amount of driving on private roads. The current gasoline tax only runs about $350 a year for a 25mpg car putting in 20,000 miles.
They could check the odometer reading when you get your annual inspection. Or when you get reregister your car. If the tax is reasonably small, people won't try to avoid it.
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With robotics, labor costs are the same in both locations.
So that means shipping costs are a larger factor.
Actually, things did not go well for those particular people. Many of them starved to death and died homeless.
However, the next generation was okay and basically ignored the tragedy.
Probably be the same this time too. if 25% can't find work or housing-- then after 20 years, as a society, we'll just ignore the fact that that happened.
I'm for red light cameras IF combined with a countdown and a minimum 2.5 second yellow.
We have those in town and you always have plenty of warning since they start at 20 seconds from the time the light change to red.
Red light cameras in many cases increase the number of accidents at intersections- transforming them from Tbone's to front/rear accidents. That should reduce the fatalities and in some cases it has slightly but in others it hasn't. I guess it depends on the intersection.
I'm very wary of freeway feeder intersections- even with red light cameras they are the source of horrific T'bones. When a freeway feeder light changes I look to see if anyone is zooming along at 50mph before I start moving. I'll often wait a second for the cars closer to that side to move and get in the way. In the last 2 years alone, I saw four incredible accidents at those intersections. Car's instantly smashed, broken in 2, thrown over 30' breaking everything in their paths.
When you combine a red light camera with a shortened yellow (as they've been caught doing repeatedly), it's purely about making money.
I would not cut the cord at $50 per month.
At $90 per month- yup.
Comcast is trying to raise bandwidth/price for internet to make the exercise pointless but their is competition on raw bandwidth so I can get it for 1/3 to 1/2 the price.
I currently have both services. But it's been 30 days and the other service is working fine so Comcast goes before the next billing cycle.
You know at $100 a month- that's $12000 dollars over 10 years??? Ignoring investment returns, that's a huge chunk of money. With investment returns, it's probably $20,000 -- i.e. a NEW car or 4 trips to Europe/Asia.
They basically had incredibly thin flexible suits which were sprayed on most of the body and dissolved chemically off of them afterwards.
Most of the body just needs pressure containment and protection from exposure.
You could put on a non pressurized heat protective layer on top of the pressure layer of the suit.
I think we have the fabrics to do this now- just not spray / dissolve.
But much simpler suits- not more complicated. Separate the heat/cold protection from the pressure layer. Two or more piece/layers.
Not so much. I think the concept is marvey (I retired at 51 and I've loved it. Tho a bit much minecraft perhaps.)
It's the way our capitalist, "workers are good- unemployed is bad. rich is good- not rich is bad." is going to handle the transition.
Capitalism is based on exchanging your time for their time at varying exchange rates.
What do you do when your time is of no value to anyone?
Yes, but not in the way you are thinking.
Computers are replacing (not augmenting) humans in huge numbers very rapidly over the last 10 years. At my last company, they were laying off thousands through automation and planned to eliminate roughly 35,000 jobs over the next decade (reducing the multi billion dollar company from 75,000 staff to 40,000 very rapidly).
Robotics just cuts out people who have an IQ of 100 or less and depended on being able to see and manipulate things with their hands getting them work.
I think you missed my point. There is no luddite solution. And the change is coming irrevocably now. There will not be enough work. Almost any job you can create will be subject to automation if you make more than the annual cost of running a computer or robot.
Robots are under $20,000 per year now (more like $8000 per year annualized and $3000 per year in environments where there are three shifts).
The market in robotics is exploding. Huge sales and volume over the last few years.
It's going to happen. The question is- how do we treat non workin citizens when we really truly only need a third of working age people to work to produce and manage everything.
I think we are already past the saturation point for eduation.
People spend more on education but are seeing smaller returns.
Get a degree and you may end up $90k in unforgivable debt and also no job.
When my generation was graduating, a degree was a sure thing.
That doesn't work. Think about rare stuff.
I.e. the best address in town.
i.e. the best school in town.
i.e. the best beach front/ski lodge resort property.
i.e. Kobe beef.
i.e. A genuine 1937 Mickey Mantle baseball card (one of three left).
i.e. A house build by Frank Lloyd Wright.
Lol...
"You hire a gardener to mow your lawn, painter to paint your house"... both of which will be done by robots within the next 20 years-- better, faster, and cheaper than by humans.
I agree on the concentration being a short to mid term issue. It's less significant when all but the rare stuff (beachfront property- genuine rare art/memorabilia- prime ski resort property) becomes inexpensive. For example- non-rare food (i.e. not including Kobe Beef) is going to become increasingly inexpensive going forward.
One way to allow people to earn money going forward is to lower the work week. Another is just say, "Okay- everyone gets basic shelter, food, and a stipend."
There are probably other soulutions.
But robots are different. They will be able to do ANYTHING a human does except create new things (I give that another 100 years- tho they can "fake" creativity (basically permutations) now).
It's a known point of wear. It should be designed to be replaced- not part of the motherboard of the phone.
WIll be less true- but still true of the new connectors because of sideways pressure on the cord.
All I ask is the 2+ trillion dollars they spent subsidizing oil from 2000 to 2012.
And I'm being generous! I'm not asking them to cover the secondary costs of pollution from oil products.
But seriously - Solar power is one of those things like roads which the government can do very well and private business can't do well yet.
However, within a decade- solar power be ubiquitous and bring down the power of other energy sources. They will have to compete against it!
It's not long. And I don't think people will be ready to cope with the change.
They haven't thought about what a tool which completely replaces a human and which costs less than a human salary means.
At least a generation of severe disruption and even after that very likely structural unemployment over 25%. You will need to change society in some fundamental ways. Basic income is one possibility.
You (and the colonoscopy below) need to negotiate in advance.
I have friends who have both payed less (a LOT less).
My dentist offers me 75% of the insured price for cash.
Friend got her colonoscopy for $750.
She had to wait 3 months and come in at 8am. SAME place insured, it was over $1500 (my portion was $358), I came in on 1 week advance notice at 9am.
Otherwise- same procedure. Maybe even the same doctor.
The approach is, "I have cash- I'm shopping on price- what do you charge for this?"
Obviously doesn't work for emergency care but I read about one person who prearranged their knee surgery (anesthesiologist & all) for less than my insurance co-pay.
In fact, I suspect increasingly the co-pay is the real price.
I was at a multi billion dollar corporation. The CEO wandered by and chitchatted with the programmers about how their specific projects were doing.
He only did this once a year or so for each department. It took about an hour of his time per department.
He would also meet with the supervisors and then the managers.
There really is no morality.
Only power struggles between different interests groups.
The power can take different forms- up to and including violence/murder/mass murder.
The current "war" around copyright is a war of persuasion.
But neither copyright violation nor copyright support have valid claims to inherent morality or moral superiority.
I read that the rate of serious skydiving accidents (often fatal but not always) was 1:5000 jumps for experienced skydivers. Some of them are probably less careful than others.
But that's still pretty high. About the same as the broken leg/blow acl for skiers (about 1:6000).
Less people sky dive. Basically every skiing day- multiple people come down on stretchers with ruined knees and legs. You can mitigate that- but a friend had her knee blown when a reckless hot shot blindsided her.
Of course--- I'd consider just about the safest thing you could do to be exiting a toll booth stop and someone died here last friday. The dump truck to their left took a 90 degree right turn, smashed them into the barricade and their gas tank exploded. That set off the dump truck fuel which burned for hours. They are speculating the dump truck driver had a heart attack as he exited the toll booth.
So if your number is up...
I had no idea a single turbine could produce that much electricity.
The martha's vineyard discussion had given me the impression you would need a hundred or so fans in a huge farm.
I do worry how well these turbines would do with a mega cyclone like the one that hit the phillipines.
Well many people with ocean views are not fans of offshore turbines.
I personally think they look kinda cool.
The navy yard shooting isn't really a good example because the vast majority of people in the navy yard are not allowed to carry guns and those that do are open carry types like base police.
Having a gun won't prevent the first few casualties. It might stop a shooting incident from escalating to more dying.
Even licensed carriers are humans and may be enraged and lose control. I don't own a gun because based on my life experience it would only raise the risk in my family (grandkids might get it, I might have a misfire, I might be enraged and stupid sometime).
For some others, owning a gun makes sense.
They need queues with bullet resistant glass leading to metal detectors.
Having a gun doesn't stop someone from pulling out a gun and shooting you.
Having a gun doesn't help when the shooter is in a mass of bystanders waiting in line.
If you split off the people who fail a preliminary metal detector test THEN that area could have someone with a gun.
But even there an bullet resistant airlock system would be better.
Well, for one thing, you already are? If you buy commercially sold fuel, you are paying a fuel tax already.
I think you can get farm diesel but it's a different color and the hassle is enough you wouldn't do it unless you had a serious amount of driving on private roads. The current gasoline tax only runs about $350 a year for a 25mpg car putting in 20,000 miles.
Also Texas. I assumed some kind of annual car inspection would be common.
Interesting that they don't have them.
I guess if you don't already have the infrastructure in place then adding a device would be the way to go.
This.
They could check the odometer reading when you get your annual inspection.
Or when you get reregister your car. If the tax is reasonably small, people won't try to avoid it.
10. Diamonds are a girl's best friend
9. Don't Lava me Alone.
8. Baby, it's Dark Outside.
7. Here I am, with Open Doors.
6. He's a Creep, oh yea. Sssssssss!
5. Hmmrrmm. Hurt you.
4. White Feather Spies
3. Do the Chunk.
2. Build me a pillar to the Sky.
And the current number one hit.
1. Hmarrrr. Hmarrr. Brains.