Surface pro pricing is being lowered due to poor Surface rt sales.
That being said, I still think the price is too high and based on the new info feel that it is for a niche market where it competes against less expensive laptops. Major corporations might get it for their Senior Directors but a $600 laptop will do just fine for mangers and below.
I can't even see developers getting it unless they are developing for the product. And I personally prefer a lot more real estate to develop on so you are probably talking about docking it and running multiple monitors on a desk if you are developing.
As a tablet for carrying to meetings- it's bloody expensive.
Oh and graphic artists- -but again, as an artist- I need a fairly large screen. You might be able to rough things out on the tablet, but there would be a lot of zooming in and out. So again- really docked at a desk with monitors.
Which again- leaves the main benefits in carrying it around. As a tablet, it's heavier, less battery life, and expensive.
From one of the reviews... For
Windows 8 in a tablet
Fantastic pen
Bright touchscreen
Up to 2TB expandable storage
Touch and Type Cover keyboards
Against
Heavy
Shorter battery life than RT
No home for the pen
Kickstand can be awkward
--- WIndows 8, currently sucks- It's tablet oriented so in some areas my friends report it as painful to use with a mouse until they installed a standard desktop. But they'll fix that with the 8.1. Microsoft eventually gets things right. I have multiple Windows machines at home.
Get the best of work and play with a Windows tablet. Play games, watch your favorite movies, read, and catch up with family and friends. Plus you can get stuff done with Office, do two things at once side-by-side, and access your files anywhere. An iPad just canâ(TM)t do all of that.
Choose from sleek new Windows 8 and Windows RT devices that fit your life and your pocketbook.
You know... the $10,000 Lisa would cost over $30,000 these days adjusted for inflation!
I have to wonder what they were thinking.
I know they crippled the Mac for a few years (artificially low memory I think- but it's fuzzy) to prevent competition with the Lisa for a while but in the end, they basically just ate the development costs for the Lisa and sold the Mac for what it cost to make plus a profit.
While there are some obvious shills and probably some less obvious shills, there are also simple fanboys and honest fans of products.
And there is still a good percentage of honest posters (way over 75% I think).
Some of the more "obvious" shills are probably fanboys and not shills.
We know Microsoft pays multiple companies to maintain their online reputation and there are probably few major corporations that don't at this point. And a lot of companies encourage their employees to write positive things online or to write nothing.
While I occasionally get mismodded (in my opinion) down to 0, most the time, when I'm moderating and checking the -1's and 0's they seem to be correctly moderated. I get about 45 mod points a week sometimes, so I can do a lot of damage to any thing I see that I think is mismodded.
Yes, Microsoft (and most corporations) now hire multiple companies to "manage" their reputation online. This includes posting, false reviews, bashing competitors products, etc.
A) I believe that there really is a class war going on.
B) We just gotta not have that constant adversarial mindset with regards to public policy.
Have to choose one or the other. People have to hurt a lot more before they stop believing the propaganda they consume. I've listened to an out of work man on the radio raging against unemployment when he self-admittedly was about to lose his house, his marriage, and everything he'd worked for.
I imagine if they brought of age discrimination, he'd have been against rolling back the supreme court rulings in 2007 that gutted citizens protections.
Libertarian is fine- but you need a strong government or it turns facist or oligarchical (because the powerful and wealthy walk over everyone else without a strong government to stop them).
âoeWaggener Edstrom explains its âoePerception Managementâ services,â notes Homer, who quotes: âoeUncontrolled buzz can dramatically change perceptions of your brand. [...] The Narrative Network mines online dialogue and traditional media, even foreign language media, for mentions of your brand, your company, your key executives and your competitors. Then using a social networking algorithm, it associates what they say about your brand. [...] While we monitor your narrative network over time, or before and after a product launch or PR announcement, we will find new branches of a story [graphic flashes the phrase "Negative PR"]. This allows us to measure effectiveness of the PR messaging, and insert new messages or themes into your brand storyline, and deploy the right resources to keep the story on message, or adjust tactics to manage perceptions.â
But the sales are so low that there is no way 100 bucks is going to kickstart them.
What is it- like 150,000 total units sold world wide with a 20% return rate?
With 4,000,000 units unsold?
$100 bucks isn't enough.
I'm not bashing or hating on Microsoft. I'm just stating reality.
The "puny" units being sold for $450 are as powerful as my "top of the line unit" bought just a few years ago.
Sure-- some power junkies might even need (not just want) the surface- but it's exceptional overkill for most people. They don't need the extra power so they are not going to pay for it. Very similar to the "lisa" mistake Apple made decades ago.
Perhaps they'll cut $100 now, then another $100 in October and another $100 in December-- trying to find the price point where the product starts selling. But every month they put off price cuts just means the technological advantage of the surface machines is decaying relative to other machines.
If one group can set the standard of working people to death, then why isn't that also fair?
"Your lucky to have a job"
"We have flex time, You can work any 80 hours a week you want"
and of course also...
"Full time is 30 hours a week here, so if you want to survive you better expect to work 60-90 hours a week at three different jobs. Heck- we've paired up with another business to employ you 30 hours a week if you work 30 hours a week here just to make it easy for you."
---
What is "fair" is ultimately up to the citizens. And sometimes, if you have strong enough control over the media and the police, they never wake up from propaganda.
xkcd is overrated (Score:1, Insightful) by Joining Yet Again (2992179) Alter Relationship on Saturday August 03, 2013 @09:32AM (#44465073)
And how long has writing existed for?
Randall Munroe is an embarrassing illustration of the mediocrity of the average modern nerd. He says nothing which isn't either cliche or oversimplified.
I thought I was alone in this until a few weeks ago I found a site called xkcdsucks [blogspot.com], and it appears I'm not alone in thinking this.
I find many of his comics to be creative in a way that stretches my brain.
For example the recursive WikiLeaks comic, the dnd game with death, "something is wrong on the internet", and others.
I agree that I find some other writers more emotionally effecting (The story of Miko in Order of the Stick literally made me cry-- over stick figures!) or more creative and artistic (Questionable Content) but XKCD is +5 Insightful compared to those. He's a mirror on society- not a story teller so much.
If he wrote SF it would mostly be hard SF I think.
And his illustrations (Cancer, Radiation, Ocean Depths) are spectacular and unique. Here he shows a singular talent.
I think only someone who was in the vast minority or extremely jealous would call Munroe embarrassing. But, as I found in leading MMORGS guilds, there is always "that guy" who will argue with you about anything. Even if you want to give him a $20 bill. I guess you're "that guy".
Yes-- and some cows are so muscular that they require a C-Section to give birth.
Medallions are required in a few cities. San Francisco has them but sale of medallions was prohibited in Prop K several decades ago.
Medallions in San Francisco are non transferable. When the current holder can't drive 800 hours a year, the medallion goes back to the city and goes to the next person on the list. The list is long and it usually takes until a person is 40 before they get one.
Sf had a small pilot program recently on selling a small number of medallions- not sure how legally- it wasn't in the article.
So your clue on SF was wrong. But now you know.
Sad thing is we are in agreement on some of this issue. It is a bit of a cartel in those four cities- just like doctors else where (due to closing of medical schools).
It's not just a form of unionization. It means the state has verified that this practitioner has completed certain education, in some professions has posted a bond, and in many professions must continue to complete ongoing annual education from... licensed teachers in the field.
In the case of cab drivers it probably means they must maintain a certain driving record, their cab must be maintained in a certain way and that the cab (and it's metering equipment) must be inspected on a regular basis.
The ride "share" is probably all well and good until someone dies/is seriously injured and the driver doesn't have insurance/the car had a maintenance problem, the driver was intoxicated in some way, etc. Then it gets sticky.
OTH, a lot of laws are passed because something bad happened. A person finds a new unique way to electrocute themselves which is 1 in a million odds and next year every electrician has to learn about the new element of the electrical code that makes that impossible.
However, regulatory capture does lead to higher prices (and profits) over time as well as kicking out rungs of the ladder and making it harder for those who follow to get into the field.
An indictment is a written statement charging a party with the commission of a crime or other offense, drawn up by a prosecuting attorney and found and presented by a grand jury. Although the idea of a person being indicted on a misdemeanor charge may be uncommon, since the purpose of an indictment is generally used to charge a person with a felony; itâ(TM)s not always the case....(deleted text)
When a defendant is indicted in New York Criminal Court on a misdemeanor charge, he is subject to a petit jury hearing which has a total of six members. This hearing is used to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to prosecute the defendant.
If the misdemeanor is prosecuted by the indictment, then the defendant is entitled to twelve jurors even though the highest charge is a misdemeanor....(deleted text)
It's an interesting point, but all of mozart's works wouldn't be a fraction of the code in a typical program (much less the operating systems).
From the wiki... "On 14 March 1994, Linux 1.0.0 was released, with 176,250 lines of code." (it was over 10million in 2008 and over 15 million in 2010).
The code for old Mac programs (and esp. the operating system) is so extensive that most of us would never have the time to read and understand them.
It's easier these days-- opening a window and it's widgets doesn't take a symphony worth of operators, data definitions, and subroutines.
"A recent report suggests that US employers are using the H-1B visa program to pay lower wages than the national average for programming jobs.
According to "The Bottom of the Pay Scale: Wages for H-1B Computer Programmers â" F.Y. 2004," a report by Programmers Guild board member John Miano, non-U.S. citizens working in the United States on an H-1B visa are paid "significantly less than their American counterparts."
How much less? "On average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state.""
Companies make a LIVING teaching other companies how to advertise and interview to avoid hiring qualified u.s. citizens (some of whom are the same birthplace as the H-1B's but who have the misfortune to be a citizen). (easy to find on Youtube btw- one of the seminars where they were bluntly talking about how to disqualify citizens).
I agree- too much of anything can be bad for you. Even drinking water can kill you.
Depending on your ethnic background that could be a good/great/ or not so good diet for you. For those of us with heinz 57 backgrounds, you just have to see what works for you and what doesn't. And who can tell quickly for the less visible effects?
I've had some friends do very poorly on vegetarian diets (just basically sickly all the time) while some others who had similar eating habits did well.
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One thing I noted in working with Infosys is that they require your high school graduation date.
Not evidence you graduated.
Not the year you graduated from college.
I'm sure they think they are being cute, but I hope that they get burned hard for it someday.
I read up on it...
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/which-surface-is-right-for-you
No, I did not understand the difference.
Surface pro pricing is being lowered due to poor Surface rt sales.
That being said, I still think the price is too high and based on the new info feel that it is for a niche market where it competes against less expensive laptops. Major corporations might get it for their Senior Directors but a $600 laptop will do just fine for mangers and below.
I can't even see developers getting it unless they are developing for the product. And I personally prefer a lot more real estate to develop on so you are probably talking about docking it and running multiple monitors on a desk if you are developing.
As a tablet for carrying to meetings- it's bloody expensive.
Oh and graphic artists- -but again, as an artist- I need a fairly large screen. You might be able to rough things out on the tablet, but there would be a lot of zooming in and out. So again- really docked at a desk with monitors.
Which again- leaves the main benefits in carrying it around. As a tablet, it's heavier, less battery life, and expensive.
From one of the reviews...
For
Windows 8 in a tablet
Fantastic pen
Bright touchscreen
Up to 2TB expandable storage
Touch and Type Cover keyboards
Against
Heavy
Shorter battery life than RT
No home for the pen
Kickstand can be awkward
---
WIndows 8, currently sucks- It's tablet oriented so in some areas my friends report it as painful to use with a mouse until they installed a standard desktop. But they'll fix that with the 8.1. Microsoft eventually gets things right. I have multiple Windows machines at home.
One vendor certainly did this.
It's a large company too.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/compare
iPad vs. Windows
Get the best of work and play with a Windows tablet. Play games, watch your favorite movies, read, and catch up with family and friends. Plus you can get stuff done with Office, do two things at once side-by-side, and access your files anywhere. An iPad just canâ(TM)t do all of that.
Choose from sleek new Windows 8 and Windows RT devices that fit your life and your pocketbook.
You know... the $10,000 Lisa would cost over $30,000 these days adjusted for inflation!
I have to wonder what they were thinking.
I know they crippled the Mac for a few years (artificially low memory I think- but it's fuzzy) to prevent competition with the Lisa for a while but in the end, they basically just ate the development costs for the Lisa and sold the Mac for what it cost to make plus a profit.
LOL! LOL! You must about made me spit up my coffee.
I saw the "Making" of video for that commercial in the theaters a couple weeks ago.
While there are some obvious shills and probably some less obvious shills, there are also simple fanboys and honest fans of products.
And there is still a good percentage of honest posters (way over 75% I think).
Some of the more "obvious" shills are probably fanboys and not shills.
We know Microsoft pays multiple companies to maintain their online reputation and there are probably few major corporations that don't at this point. And a lot of companies encourage their employees to write positive things online or to write nothing.
While I occasionally get mismodded (in my opinion) down to 0, most the time, when I'm moderating and checking the -1's and 0's they seem to be correctly moderated. I get about 45 mod points a week sometimes, so I can do a lot of damage to any thing I see that I think is mismodded.
See above post with link to
http://techrights.org/2011/12/26/microsoft-and-nokia-astroturf/
And its responses.
Yes, Microsoft (and most corporations) now hire multiple companies to "manage" their reputation online. This includes posting, false reviews, bashing competitors products, etc.
A) I believe that there really is a class war going on.
B) We just gotta not have that constant adversarial mindset with regards to public policy.
Have to choose one or the other.
People have to hurt a lot more before they stop believing the propaganda they consume.
I've listened to an out of work man on the radio raging against unemployment when he self-admittedly was about to lose his house, his marriage, and everything he'd worked for.
I imagine if they brought of age discrimination, he'd have been against rolling back the supreme court rulings in 2007 that gutted citizens protections.
Libertarian is fine- but you need a strong government or it turns facist or oligarchical (because the powerful and wealthy walk over everyone else without a strong government to stop them).
Yes.
http://techrights.org/2011/12/26/microsoft-and-nokia-astroturf/
âoeWaggener Edstrom explains its âoePerception Managementâ services,â notes Homer, who quotes: âoeUncontrolled buzz can dramatically change perceptions of your brand. [...] The Narrative Network mines online dialogue and traditional media, even foreign language media, for mentions of your brand, your company, your key executives and your competitors. Then using a social networking algorithm, it associates what they say about your brand. [...] While we monitor your narrative network over time, or before and after a product launch or PR announcement, we will find new branches of a story [graphic flashes the phrase "Negative PR"]. This allows us to measure effectiveness of the PR messaging, and insert new messages or themes into your brand storyline, and deploy the right resources to keep the story on message, or adjust tactics to manage perceptions.â
nt
Absolutely
I reboot my windows computer rarely (6 to 10 times per year?)
It reboots itself once a week while I'm asleep and spends the rest of the time in sleep mode.
It wakes up from sleep mode very quickly.
So boot time doesn't really matter.
I get that.
But the sales are so low that there is no way 100 bucks is going to kickstart them.
What is it- like 150,000 total units sold world wide with a 20% return rate?
With 4,000,000 units unsold?
$100 bucks isn't enough.
I'm not bashing or hating on Microsoft. I'm just stating reality.
The "puny" units being sold for $450 are as powerful as my "top of the line unit" bought just a few years ago.
Sure-- some power junkies might even need (not just want) the surface- but it's exceptional overkill for most people. They don't need the extra power so they are not going to pay for it. Very similar to the "lisa" mistake Apple made decades ago.
Perhaps they'll cut $100 now, then another $100 in October and another $100 in December-- trying to find the price point where the product starts selling. But every month they put off price cuts just means the technological advantage of the surface machines is decaying relative to other machines.
Sorry but that's not enough- not nearly enough.
Perhaps if they were between $350 and $550?
Otherwise, I can have a 10" tablet for $300 (or much less) or I can have a laptop for $450 (or much less).
The touch is okay but the price point isn't right.
If one group can set the standard of working people to death, then why isn't that also fair?
"Your lucky to have a job"
"We have flex time, You can work any 80 hours a week you want"
and of course also...
"Full time is 30 hours a week here, so if you want to survive you better expect to work 60-90 hours a week at three different jobs. Heck- we've paired up with another business to employ you 30 hours a week if you work 30 hours a week here just to make it easy for you."
---
What is "fair" is ultimately up to the citizens. And sometimes, if you have strong enough control over the media and the police, they never wake up from propaganda.
Perhaps because that wasn't IN your post?
xkcd is overrated (Score:1, Insightful)
by Joining Yet Again (2992179) Alter Relationship on Saturday August 03, 2013 @09:32AM (#44465073)
And how long has writing existed for?
Randall Munroe is an embarrassing illustration of the mediocrity of the average modern nerd. He says nothing which isn't either cliche or oversimplified.
I thought I was alone in this until a few weeks ago I found a site called xkcdsucks [blogspot.com], and it appears I'm not alone in thinking this.
I find many of his comics to be creative in a way that stretches my brain.
For example the recursive WikiLeaks comic, the dnd game with death, "something is wrong on the internet", and others.
I agree that I find some other writers more emotionally effecting (The story of Miko in Order of the Stick literally made me cry-- over stick figures!) or more creative and artistic (Questionable Content) but XKCD is +5 Insightful compared to those. He's a mirror on society- not a story teller so much.
If he wrote SF it would mostly be hard SF I think.
And his illustrations (Cancer, Radiation, Ocean Depths) are spectacular and unique. Here he shows a singular talent.
I think only someone who was in the vast minority or extremely jealous would call Munroe embarrassing. But, as I found in leading MMORGS guilds, there is always "that guy" who will argue with you about anything. Even if you want to give him a $20 bill. I guess you're "that guy".
The FBI would be very busy.
Yes-- and some cows are so muscular that they require a C-Section to give birth.
Medallions are required in a few cities. San Francisco has them but sale of medallions was prohibited in Prop K several decades ago.
Medallions in San Francisco are non transferable. When the current holder can't drive 800 hours a year, the medallion goes back to the city and goes to the next person on the list. The list is long and it usually takes until a person is 40 before they get one.
Sf had a small pilot program recently on selling a small number of medallions- not sure how legally- it wasn't in the article.
So your clue on SF was wrong. But now you know.
Sad thing is we are in agreement on some of this issue. It is a bit of a cartel in those four cities- just like doctors else where (due to closing of medical schools).
It's not just a form of unionization. It means the state has verified that this practitioner has completed certain education, in some professions has posted a bond, and in many professions must continue to complete ongoing annual education from... licensed teachers in the field.
In the case of cab drivers it probably means they must maintain a certain driving record, their cab must be maintained in a certain way and that the cab (and it's metering equipment) must be inspected on a regular basis.
The ride "share" is probably all well and good until someone dies/is seriously injured and the driver doesn't have insurance/the car had a maintenance problem, the driver was intoxicated in some way, etc. Then it gets sticky.
OTH, a lot of laws are passed because something bad happened. A person finds a new unique way to electrocute themselves which is 1 in a million odds and next year every electrician has to learn about the new element of the electrical code that makes that impossible.
However, regulatory capture does lead to higher prices (and profits) over time as well as kicking out rungs of the ladder and making it harder for those who follow to get into the field.
http://jpdefense.com/new-york-criminal-defense/2011/01/can-a-defendant-be-indicted-in-new-york-state-on-a-misdemeanor-charge/
An indictment is a written statement charging a party with the commission of a crime or other offense, drawn up by a prosecuting attorney and found and presented by a grand jury. Although the idea of a person being indicted on a misdemeanor charge may be uncommon, since the purpose of an indictment is generally used to charge a person with a felony; itâ(TM)s not always the case. ...(deleted text)
When a defendant is indicted in New York Criminal Court on a misdemeanor charge, he is subject to a petit jury hearing which has a total of six members. This hearing is used to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to prosecute the defendant.
If the misdemeanor is prosecuted by the indictment, then the defendant is entitled to twelve jurors even though the highest charge is a misdemeanor. ...(deleted text)
It's an interesting point, but all of mozart's works wouldn't be a fraction of the code in a typical program (much less the operating systems).
From the wiki... "On 14 March 1994, Linux 1.0.0 was released, with 176,250 lines of code."
(it was over 10million in 2008 and over 15 million in 2010).
The code for old Mac programs (and esp. the operating system) is so extensive that most of us would never have the time to read and understand them.
It's easier these days-- opening a window and it's widgets doesn't take a symphony worth of operators, data definitions, and subroutines.
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2005_10_26/us/us_h1b_visa_holders_earn_less.htm
It's not about skill.
It's about
"A recent report suggests that US employers are using the H-1B visa program to pay lower wages than the national average for programming jobs.
According to "The Bottom of the Pay Scale: Wages for H-1B Computer Programmers â" F.Y. 2004," a report by Programmers Guild board member John Miano, non-U.S. citizens working in the United States on an H-1B visa are paid "significantly less than their American counterparts."
How much less? "On average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state.""
Companies make a LIVING teaching other companies how to advertise and interview to avoid hiring qualified u.s. citizens (some of whom are the same birthplace as the H-1B's but who have the misfortune to be a citizen). (easy to find on Youtube btw- one of the seminars where they were bluntly talking about how to disqualify citizens).
I agree- too much of anything can be bad for you. Even drinking water can kill you.
Depending on your ethnic background that could be a good/great/ or not so good diet for you. For those of us with heinz 57 backgrounds, you just have to see what works for you and what doesn't. And who can tell quickly for the less visible effects?
I've had some friends do very poorly on vegetarian diets (just basically sickly all the time) while some others who had similar eating habits did well.
Better cut is relative.
I don't/can't eat much offal either but ...
The "better" cuts compare to offal nutritionally as corn does to green vegetables.
Your eyes, your heart, your nerves, and other organs benefit from eating organ meat.
For example, your heart benefits from the taurine in hearts.
Thanks didn't realize about the magnetic field.