This is like not being descrimination to require that I work 18 hours on a sunday well into the night because it is a "bad" neighborhood. Meanwhile, legally she should get the same pay and benefits because there is "no difference" between us. (Okay so why do is she less qualified when it comes to conversion work on the weekend and late at night?)
This happened a decade or more ago at a different company during a conversion to a new computer).
Things are not fair yet- currently they are still in the "screw the guys" period. I believe it will eventually even out.
The eventual new model will mean not much "work" for most people.
That should be a paradise (lots of stuff, only a small percent of workers) but is more likely to be a distopia (lots of stuff you can't buy unless you can work even tho it is basically free, only a small percent of people who can earn money to buy stuff).
On some machines looks like assembly opcodes are really interpreted to the machine layer.
So the question is how you want to use the word "interpreted". These days I consider something like "wine" to have more of the characteristics that interpreted code used to have. Partially, I guess processors have just gotten bloody fast.
Considering that we were paying russian space scientists out of our budget, I don't think that's a very good option. They even held up a couple parts for the ISS until they got their checks.
That seems true to me. I have friends at two large companies in senior positions- I'm in a senior position managing people- and none of us make close to what the second (pay...) site says people from my zip code are reporting.
I just don't know that I believe that $15,000 bonus on top of $110,000 base pay is typical for a team lead type.
I like to go with the current market rate. I don't want to make too much (and get laid off) and I don't like getting paid too little (I'll lay them off).
I'm glad that you are providing 100% of your spare cash to support the numerous people dying every second around the world.
I know you get by on a sustinence diet because even 50 cents a *month* can save an entire family in africa. So that coke you just had-- oh an entire family died because you didn't give it to them. What you spent 10,000 on a car? Omg- hundreds died so you could have a car.
The absolute *WORST* thing we can do for people in north korea is to provide them food aid. it only supports the regime which is killing them. We need to let the natural consequences of its actions fall on them.
There is a huge link between hard work and getting ahead (even in africa). The guys making doors out of tin cans are not starving while the ones just sitting around waiting for aid are.
However- in some cases i agree with you. You can do everything right- work really hard- and you still starve to death.
But it is not as simple as helping starving people. In many cases, only when they really start to die off are they going to fix the underlying reason they are starving. Africa's problems are almost entirely self-inflicted at this point. They could be a paradise in less than 10 years. But we know that in 10 years they will still be starving to death and dying off in large numbers from Aids (clue-- unprotected sex and a polyamourous life style and aids... do not mix).
It's really unfortunate that people who do the right thing get screwed. However, any help to them must be tied to people who are willing to enforce standards for that help. In most cases, that's a religious group (and I say that as an athiest) because basic religious principles are usually the bedrock of any successful society (be it pro-family bhuddism or pro-family islam or pro-family christianity).
And yea- it sucks that lazy people often get by fairly well. In fact, being successfully lazy is what they do best (until they are old and sympathetic and then beg more money off the state). I'm going to save hard my entire life (20% of gross) and then probably be denied social security benefits because I have "too much" money while the folks who partied and had big houses will be supported on my tax dollar. It sucks.
And it gets worse. All that 401k money I saved instead of spent-- I'll probably be taxed at 50% on every dollar I take out of it (again- so they can pay the benefits of all those people who didn't save). Then they'll put on TV shows with those starving spendthrift losers and say they need even more of my hard earned and hard saved money.
But as you say-- our entire currency could collapse ala germany wiermach government and I'll be as poor as they are despite saving hard my entire life. All I can do is play the best odds.
Took me a while to reply since it wasn't clear you were joking or not.
Father raping and beating-- okay it happens. How many girls who slept with boys and got pregnant are we going to support? How many children with no family that grow up to be completely unproductive members of society are we going to support? There's a limit and we hit it so hard in the 90's that even the liberals said "no mas".
--- >Humans are not completely independent from one another, they interact. People don't lie starving in the streets because they are too lazy, but because the rich fucks who made their money on their backs fire them to make more money, so there is no job to go to. ---
It's both. Some people lie starving in the street because they are incredibly lazy. Some folks are very unfortunate and get screwed over by rich people. When ever we start to help the screwed over ones, the lazy ones start to bogart the aid. The more we let the lazy one's bogart the aid, the more people become lazy. A lot of the hippie culture in california existed because they got free government money. Perfectly able 20 year olds made the "rational" choice- have sex, drugs, and free money vs get a job, married, and earn your own pay (while paying for all those hippies having fun).
--- >Your analogy with the deer is quite to the point, but I would want to add several points:
For one, when you demand that everyone should work even if there is no need (why do you think there is marketing? Because people are forced to work if they want to survive, even if there is no work which needs to be done - or rather, the work which needs to be done will not be paid for), it is a collosal waste of ressources which could be allocated better. ---
This is in fact a huge crisis just ahead of us that I raise regularly and people poo poo my concerns. We are coming to an age where (via machine labor) you really don't have to work as long as you don't want the "finer" things of life. It could be paradise, or it could be hell on earth depending on how we make the transition.
--- >Secondly, what else are you going to do with the food you have? Burning it and paying the food makers to make less food, it seems. If there were an actual lack of ressources, it might be reasonable to let them starve, but as a matter of fact since the advent of industrialization and automatization there is a severe overproduction in the industrialized world which leads to less work, meaning people starving on the streets - not because they do not want to work, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK AND YET YOU SAY THAT IF ONE DOESN'T WORK, HE MAY NOT LIVE. Thus, they do not die because of consequences of their actions, but BECAUSE YOU MURDERED THEM. ---
Again- this applies to a VERY TINY percentage of people. The rest are perfectly capable of finding work and food. They simply have attitude problems. "That works not good enough for me". A severe problem with welfare is that people rationally say, "Okay I can work for 40 hours a week and make $20 more than welfare or I can scam 20 bucks from mowing a lawn or doing odd jobs and stay on welfare".
Fact is, I came from a single mom family- worked my ASS off, put myself through college without grants, and I'm only of slightly better than average intelligence. If I did it, anyone can do it if they want it bad enough. When you give folks an easy out- it undercuts their motivation. My life is a lot better now than if I had taken the welfare route.
Finally- it's MY DAMN MONEY. As I said, I worked my ass off for 11 years to get where i am. When I want to give to charity- I do. When I want to build houses for the homeless, I do. What I don't want is some third party like you taking my money and giving it to people you decide are worthy. You give them YOUR money if you think they are so worthy. I'd probably give them something too- but I'm spent out on the other causes that I feel are deserving.
I have a set of private roleplaying game documents which are about 10mb with hundreds of graphics (of dubious copyright if I were to ever publish beyond my little circle of gamers).
OO has always failed to open it or crashed on editing. Likewise graphics were wierd. It kept improving tho so I kept my eye on it (I really dislike microsoft on a philosophical basis tho they have treated me very well as a customer when I had problems).
They just released 2.1 and so I gave it a whirl and it's very close now. The table of contents and indices were imported as single column instead of triple column but that was easy to correct.
I moved around some stuff and cut and pasted to see if it was crash prone like 1.1 and 2.0 and nothing. I have to say it must be the automatic crash agent at work. I religiously opened and crashed every document and reported them so I guess mystery gnomes are working those import and editing issues.
The main issue I have now is the inability to select, cut and paste, or alter, an arbitrary column of text (useful for working with log files).
It's free and finally seems to be stable and solid editing large graphic intensive word documents.
Given there are some roleplaying documents I had to strip the text out of because I couldn't read them (.wrt files from win3.1), it is nice to know that ODT will allow me to read these documents years from now.
As an added bonus, the open document text is 1,272KB while the word document is 2644KB. There appears to be some kind of GROSS 1MB bloat in modern word documents. I open the same document in word 6.0 and save it, I get 1353KB. Same document- reopen it in word 2003, back to 2644KB. The content is not changing. Some kinda of container information constitutes that bloat.
The people lying and starving in the street do serve a very useful purpose.
If we are protected from the consequences of stupid decisions (such as giving a young girl who gets pregnant her own apartment and a monthly check- and freedom from her family) then people will engage in that stupid decision until the system breaks (hence welfare reform under a democratic president in the late 90's).
It sucks that deer will eat until there is no food and then starve to death. But if you put out food for them, it doesn't solve the problem.
And when statistical extremes occur, people tend to disbelieve them or assume mystical forces are at work. When really, the event was just really improbable.
There are a huge number of very improbable events so the likely hood that one of them will occur somewhere is fairly high.
Say that the odds of the air in a 10'x10' area piling up like that was one in a trillion per year. Then that means it happens an average of once a year on some planet somewhere in the universe.
Likewise, if you have a million drives running, your likely to see some freaky statistical runs that might never occur for the average home user with 10 drives. OTH, your "average" behavior would be much more average than the home user too.
I'd do a lot more than get a boner for 41 years job security at a job where I was deciding what software a company was going to use.
I'll pass on the mcdonalds- I'm not sure my math skills are good enough. The military turned me down- too old (and they keep raising it to just a few years younger than me- I hear some branches are now accepting 40 year olds- I expect when I retire at 55 they'll be allowing 50 year olds to enlist).
I'd get a boner if someone would offer me 19 years of job security.
Most of my friends seem to work for places like this.
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Well folks, it's a great product but the sales are not there and the investors are pulling our funds. You can use your office the next couple weeks to try to find a new position.
--- They seem okay with it- but it would drive me bloody insane.
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If vista sales are not there, XP (and dx9) games will be the dominant target for at least 24 more months.
By then the expensive pile of vista crap you can buy today will be a well patched, smooth running computer for about $400.
So why by Vista now. I made a point of buying an XP machine (smooth running, well patched- handles the hardest zones of my mmorg like glass) so I wouldn't be stuck with Vista (3 of our guild members are in the vista trap right now. they are screwed.)
Next OS will be linux anyway.
I'm almost done with gaming on PC's. WII will be my first console and I bought a stand up console with Robotron:2044, Defender, Stargate, and others. Probably spend a half hour a day on it.
Java: hard to manage. "Not sure we can update this without breaking the application" "no idea how many we have" there were no reps. (Really a corporate problem of not putting resources into managing Java sinces its "free"). IBM: decent but a bit messy and no centralized reporting. (but they are very reliable for production work). Reps felt a bit surly. M$: easily updated tens of thousands of machines and were able to report on this. The rep responded instantly and aggressively to any problems-- was simply amazing (going to write up some glowing recommendations)
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I *WOULD* never and *WILL* never use microsoft search engines.
I DO NOT TRUST THEM. They have repeatedly proven to me and others that they are not trustworthy since the 1980's. They are scammers.
--- So we have the two microsofts.
One is just fabulous to it's customers (and as an individual owner, I had a similar response with a sound card issue years ago going to win98- they called in 5 engineers and spent 4 hours on the phone with me and figured out exactly what the problem was).
The other is a cheating weasel. I think it has reached a point that the cheating weasel microsoft is hurting the good guy microsoft's business a lot.
I don't even consider MSN searching. I didn't even decide not to use it at a concious level. I knew it was written by weasels and later articles confirmed that their search results had wierd filtering and censorship.
I think Microsoft needs to stop the juvenile scamming bullshit and turn Pro everywhere (not just in their treatment of their customers).
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And they can discover the benefits of countries like that just as exxon and others have recently.
These companies are taking advantage of a safe legal environment here while using workers who do not have the same costs as we do.
I think a suitable answer would be for the government to nationalize microsoft just as other countries nationalize oil companies.
Either they are part of our society and share it's benefits or they are not.
This is like not being descrimination to require that I work 18 hours on a sunday well into the night because it is a "bad" neighborhood. Meanwhile, legally she should get the same pay and benefits because there is "no difference" between us. (Okay so why do is she less qualified when it comes to conversion work on the weekend and late at night?)
This happened a decade or more ago at a different company during a conversion to a new computer).
Things are not fair yet- currently they are still in the "screw the guys" period. I believe it will eventually even out.
The eventual new model will mean not much "work" for most people.
That should be a paradise (lots of stuff, only a small percent of workers) but is more likely to be a distopia (lots of stuff you can't buy unless you can work even tho it is basically free, only a small percent of people who can earn money to buy stuff).
On some machines looks like assembly opcodes are really interpreted to the machine layer.
So the question is how you want to use the word "interpreted". These days I consider something like "wine" to have more of the characteristics that interpreted code used to have. Partially, I guess processors have just gotten bloody fast.
Considering that we were paying russian space scientists out of our budget, I don't think that's a very good option.
They even held up a couple parts for the ISS until they got their checks.
That seems true to me. I have friends at two large companies in senior positions- I'm in a senior position managing people- and none of us make close to what the second (pay...) site says people from my zip code are reporting.
I just don't know that I believe that $15,000 bonus on top of $110,000 base pay is typical for a team lead type.
I like to go with the current market rate.
I don't want to make too much (and get laid off) and I don't like getting paid too little (I'll lay them off).
5 years is a bit long.
You probably couldn't get a job outside of teaching.
Better to take the debt and get a decent job in the field.
2 years- maybe.
Perhas 2 years credit for 2 years tuition would work.
Still running EQ (latest expansion) on Pentium 2.4 with a 9800 graphics card 80gb drive and 512mb ram.
Not "glass smooth" of course but it works.
2800 would be an upgrade.
And azureus running in the background.
I'm glad that you are providing 100% of your spare cash to support the numerous people dying every second around the world.
I know you get by on a sustinence diet because even 50 cents a *month* can save an entire family in africa. So that coke you just had-- oh an entire family died because you didn't give it to them. What you spent 10,000 on a car? Omg- hundreds died so you could have a car.
The absolute *WORST* thing we can do for people in north korea is to provide them food aid. it only supports the regime which is killing them. We need to let the natural consequences of its actions fall on them.
There is a huge link between hard work and getting ahead (even in africa). The guys making doors out of tin cans are not starving while the ones just sitting around waiting for aid are.
However- in some cases i agree with you. You can do everything right- work really hard- and you still starve to death.
But it is not as simple as helping starving people. In many cases, only when they really start to die off are they going to fix the underlying reason they are starving. Africa's problems are almost entirely self-inflicted at this point. They could be a paradise in less than 10 years. But we know that in 10 years they will still be starving to death and dying off in large numbers from Aids (clue-- unprotected sex and a polyamourous life style and aids... do not mix).
It's really unfortunate that people who do the right thing get screwed. However, any help to them must be tied to people who are willing to enforce standards for that help. In most cases, that's a religious group (and I say that as an athiest) because basic religious principles are usually the bedrock of any successful society (be it pro-family bhuddism or pro-family islam or pro-family christianity).
And yea- it sucks that lazy people often get by fairly well. In fact, being successfully lazy is what they do best (until they are old and sympathetic and then beg more money off the state). I'm going to save hard my entire life (20% of gross) and then probably be denied social security benefits because I have "too much" money while the folks who partied and had big houses will be supported on my tax dollar. It sucks.
And it gets worse. All that 401k money I saved instead of spent-- I'll probably be taxed at 50% on every dollar I take out of it (again- so they can pay the benefits of all those people who didn't save). Then they'll put on TV shows with those starving spendthrift losers and say they need even more of my hard earned and hard saved money.
But as you say-- our entire currency could collapse ala germany wiermach government and I'll be as poor as they are despite saving hard my entire life. All I can do is play the best odds.
Took me a while to reply since it wasn't clear you were joking or not.
Father raping and beating-- okay it happens. How many girls who slept with boys and got pregnant are we going to support? How many children with no family that grow up to be completely unproductive members of society are we going to support? There's a limit and we hit it so hard in the 90's that even the liberals said "no mas".
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>Humans are not completely independent from one another, they interact. People don't lie starving in the streets because they are too lazy, but because the rich fucks who made their money on their backs fire them to make more money, so there is no job to go to.
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It's both. Some people lie starving in the street because they are incredibly lazy. Some folks are very unfortunate and get screwed over by rich people. When ever we start to help the screwed over ones, the lazy ones start to bogart the aid. The more we let the lazy one's bogart the aid, the more people become lazy. A lot of the hippie culture in california existed because they got free government money. Perfectly able 20 year olds made the "rational" choice- have sex, drugs, and free money vs get a job, married, and earn your own pay (while paying for all those hippies having fun).
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>Your analogy with the deer is quite to the point, but I would want to add several points:
For one, when you demand that everyone should work even if there is no need (why do you think there is marketing? Because people are forced to work if they want to survive, even if there is no work which needs to be done - or rather, the work which needs to be done will not be paid for), it is a collosal waste of ressources which could be allocated better.
---
This is in fact a huge crisis just ahead of us that I raise regularly and people poo poo my concerns. We are coming to an age where (via machine labor) you really don't have to work as long as you don't want the "finer" things of life. It could be paradise, or it could be hell on earth depending on how we make the transition.
---
>Secondly, what else are you going to do with the food you have? Burning it and paying the food makers to make less food, it seems. If there were an actual lack of ressources, it might be reasonable to let them starve, but as a matter of fact since the advent of industrialization and automatization there is a severe overproduction in the industrialized world which leads to less work, meaning people starving on the streets - not because they do not want to work, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK AND YET YOU SAY THAT IF ONE DOESN'T WORK, HE MAY NOT LIVE.
Thus, they do not die because of consequences of their actions, but BECAUSE YOU MURDERED THEM.
---
Again- this applies to a VERY TINY percentage of people. The rest are perfectly capable of finding work and food. They simply have attitude problems. "That works not good enough for me". A severe problem with welfare is that people rationally say, "Okay I can work for 40 hours a week and make $20 more than welfare or I can scam 20 bucks from mowing a lawn or doing odd jobs and stay on welfare".
Fact is, I came from a single mom family- worked my ASS off, put myself through college without grants, and I'm only of slightly better than average intelligence. If I did it, anyone can do it if they want it bad enough. When you give folks an easy out- it undercuts their motivation. My life is a lot better now than if I had taken the welfare route.
Finally- it's MY DAMN MONEY. As I said, I worked my ass off for 11 years to get where i am. When I want to give to charity- I do. When I want to build houses for the homeless, I do. What I don't want is some third party like you taking my money and giving it to people you decide are worthy. You give them YOUR money if you think they are so worthy. I'd probably give them something too- but I'm spent out on the other causes that I feel are deserving.
Openoffice 2.1 is out now.
I've been noodling with openoffice since 0.94.
I have a set of private roleplaying game documents which are about 10mb with hundreds of graphics (of dubious copyright if I were to ever publish beyond my little circle of gamers).
OO has always failed to open it or crashed on editing. Likewise graphics were wierd. It kept improving tho so I kept my eye on it (I really dislike microsoft on a philosophical basis tho they have treated me very well as a customer when I had problems).
They just released 2.1 and so I gave it a whirl and it's very close now. The table of contents and indices were imported as single column instead of triple column but that was easy to correct.
I moved around some stuff and cut and pasted to see if it was crash prone like 1.1 and 2.0 and nothing. I have to say it must be the automatic crash agent at work. I religiously opened and crashed every document and reported them so I guess mystery gnomes are working those import and editing issues.
The main issue I have now is the inability to select, cut and paste, or alter, an arbitrary column of text (useful for working with log files).
It's free and finally seems to be stable and solid editing large graphic intensive word documents.
Given there are some roleplaying documents I had to strip the text out of because I couldn't read them (.wrt files from win3.1), it is nice to know that ODT will allow me to read these documents years from now.
As an added bonus, the open document text is 1,272KB while the word document is 2644KB. There appears to be some kind of GROSS 1MB bloat in modern word documents. I open the same document in word 6.0 and save it, I get 1353KB. Same document- reopen it in word 2003, back to 2644KB. The content is not changing. Some kinda of container information constitutes that bloat.
The people lying and starving in the street do serve a very useful purpose.
If we are protected from the consequences of stupid decisions (such as giving a young girl who gets pregnant her own apartment and a monthly check- and freedom from her family) then people will engage in that stupid decision until the system breaks (hence welfare reform under a democratic president in the late 90's).
It sucks that deer will eat until there is no food and then starve to death. But if you put out food for them, it doesn't solve the problem.
I agree.
The biggest threat to microsoft is their ability (and increasing willingness) to force everyone to pay for microsoft products.
Microsoft benefited enormously from the network effect of having a large number of it's users who couldn't buy the product anyway using it.
Now that everyone has to use it and pay for it, folks are a lot more interested in alternatives.
Which hell will you burn in?
Cause Odin's going to be pretty pissed and refuse you entry to Valhalla for sure.
It's evolved in our lifetime.
Creationism to Intelligent design.
Public schools to private religious schools.
Certain terms that make it easier to argue (i.e. atheism is a faith too!).
Lots of stuff has developed in the last 50 years.
Religion gives you bravery.
Technology lets you kill
Religion didn't help the iraqi's in DS1 a damn bit as they were literally buried alive in their trenches and burned to death on that highway.
I don't know-- to me this seems like a great push for magnatune and other less expensive music methods.
And when statistical extremes occur, people tend to disbelieve them or assume mystical forces are at work. When really, the event was just really improbable.
There are a huge number of very improbable events so the likely hood that one of them will occur somewhere is fairly high.
Say that the odds of the air in a 10'x10' area piling up like that was one in a trillion per year. Then that means it happens an average of once a year on some planet somewhere in the universe.
Likewise, if you have a million drives running, your likely to see some freaky statistical runs that might never occur for the average home user with 10 drives. OTH, your "average" behavior would be much more average than the home user too.
By the same logic tho...
For ANY number of drives, there is a non-zero chance that all will fail too close to the same time.
You can't win if you play long enough.
Even I can't see how I got those numbers. Sheesh!
I'd do a lot more than get a boner for 41 years job security at a job where I was deciding what software a company was going to use.
I'll pass on the mcdonalds- I'm not sure my math skills are good enough. The military turned me down- too old (and they keep raising it to just a few years younger than me- I hear some branches are now accepting 40 year olds- I expect when I retire at 55 they'll be allowing 50 year olds to enlist).
I'd get a boner if someone would offer me 19 years of job security.
Most of my friends seem to work for places like this.
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Well folks, it's a great product but the sales are not there and the investors are pulling our funds.
You can use your office the next couple weeks to try to find a new position.
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They seem okay with it- but it would drive me bloody insane.
If vista sales are not there, XP (and dx9) games will be the dominant target for at least 24 more months.
By then the expensive pile of vista crap you can buy today will be a well patched, smooth running computer for about $400.
So why by Vista now. I made a point of buying an XP machine (smooth running, well patched- handles the hardest zones of my mmorg like glass) so I wouldn't be stuck with Vista (3 of our guild members are in the vista trap right now. they are screwed.)
Next OS will be linux anyway.
I'm almost done with gaming on PC's. WII will be my first console and I bought a stand up console with Robotron:2044, Defender, Stargate, and others. Probably spend a half hour a day on it.
Microsoft is a VERY competant company.
My corp had to deal with the DST issue.
Java: hard to manage. "Not sure we can update this without breaking the application" "no idea how many we have" there were no reps. (Really a corporate problem of not putting resources into managing Java sinces its "free").
IBM: decent but a bit messy and no centralized reporting. (but they are very reliable for production work). Reps felt a bit surly.
M$: easily updated tens of thousands of machines and were able to report on this. The rep responded instantly and aggressively to any problems-- was simply amazing (going to write up some glowing recommendations)
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I *WOULD* never and *WILL* never use microsoft search engines.
I DO NOT TRUST THEM. They have repeatedly proven to me and others that they are not trustworthy since the 1980's. They are scammers.
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So we have the two microsofts.
One is just fabulous to it's customers (and as an individual owner, I had a similar response with a sound card issue years ago going to win98- they called in 5 engineers and spent 4 hours on the phone with me and figured out exactly what the problem was).
The other is a cheating weasel. I think it has reached a point that the cheating weasel microsoft is hurting the good guy microsoft's business a lot.
I don't even consider MSN searching. I didn't even decide not to use it at a concious level. I knew it was written by weasels and later articles confirmed that their search results had wierd filtering and censorship.
I think Microsoft needs to stop the juvenile scamming bullshit and turn Pro everywhere (not just in their treatment of their customers).
Not really your fault.
Every other message site I'm on let's me edit messages.