Alexander took his troops all over the middle east, getting tons of them killed, killing lots of people. It didn't end until he was personally wounded. Then it was suddenly time to go home.
The only way to make the president of google -really understand- at a gut level what he was doing to people was to do it to him.
The evil response it provoked from google was just gravy. A lucky insight into a heavily spun multi-billion dollar corporation trying to pretend they are nice guys while they are really just a new variant of the same old amoral/work your employees to death/ dirtbags we've always dealt with.
I think the odds that google will consider peoples personal privacy went way up after zd-net gigged the president of google.
Just like CD's with mp3's can hold 200 songs- I am putting entire seasons of TV shows (26 episodes) on one DVD in divx6 avi files. They look super sharp. New players starting to come out (at the $600 level) will play these disks.
So if I can get a season of DVD quality shows on one DVD in HD format, it kinda undercuts the need for BLU-RAY.
Some of the new dvd players are also recorders and can record straight to AVI. They also network and you can copy files from them to and from your computer over your home network. Sub $600! Just can't see Blu Ray making it with the masses compared to an "Mp3" player type video player.
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is just DiVX all over again.
And just like divx- when they decide the market is going to BluRay2, they just stop validating your disks and they become unplayable. (like divx became unplayable for those who forgot).
So you might only be able to make a "DVD" quality copy of a Blu Ray DVD.
Hmmm.
I'll take one for $1 at the corner vendor johnny.
Or you could have a new acc codec that supports full HD quality. Agree you probably couldn't use a standard blu-ray to play back your copies.
At $1 per song...
How many songs can you afford to buy?
How many songs are there available to listen to?
(over a hundred thousand).
I'm sorry- even the rich are not going to pay $100,000 for music - especially when if anything goes wrong, or a new kind of media comes out you have to buy it all over again.
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My budget is $40 a week for music, movies and shows. Once I've spent that, there is zero chance I'll spend more.
When I went to college, it was cheaper to copy some books at 10 cents a page on the copier than it was to buy them. The professor would refer to them maybe two or three times the entire semester. Out of the entire book, they would use 2-3 pages.
It was an obvious money scam even then. I reacted then as I do now. And it did not include buying a bunch of books to subsidize a professor making 20 times what I was while I was living in poverty.
Yes that is what the article says- but like many users the question is why is he requiring HTML? It may be that using PDF would solve his problem even tho it does not answer his question.
You are too close to see the forest from the trees. Plus you "have faith" and this is going to be as pointless as arguing with a pig.
I said my points and you read them- good- maybe they will take root.
You've said your points and I've read them. They give me deja vu all over again. No point in continuing from this point- I've done it too many times to do it again.
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If you grew up non-christian, then you have had chance and you made a choice. Most christian children are brainwashed hard before they even start to think. I grew up christian. I wasn't abused by a pastor, I don't hate the faith, etc. I blinked one day and said, "man this is all bullshit".
I read the bible and said, "man the god of the old testiment is a bastard and I wouldn't want to worship that guy even if he was real".
I read the new bible and said, "This is just like all the other untrue mythologies of old countries-- hey wait a minute- why do I accept that this is true when those are obviously fake?
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Copying the checklist- think how many of these apply to christian church communities. They are masked when christians make up 80% of the community but many have come out clearly under the stress of modern politics and a multi-cultural society.
The group is focused on a leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. (So zealous that they will dedicate their entire lives to it)
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. ("Witnessing")
The group is preoccupied with making money. (pretty common)
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. (very common- esp in catholic branch but even methodist)
Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
(okay- this is not used- one for the christians as a non-cult)
The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth). (Pretty common- huge social pressure to marry in the church- bring children up in the church- etc)
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity). (The leader is dead but otherwise-- check)
The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society. (ye gods is this one true- just listen to any talk radio)
The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations). (This one varies- they often are not accountable for a long time- but I'll grant this one)
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities). (for example, running a political campaign to save a "christian" candidate money or even suggesting the congregation votes for a particular candidate - check)
The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them. (Check- esp w/regard to sex)
Actually that is exactly what the scientific method is about.
You make a definate statement and then you test it prove that the statement is true or false.
That is the problem with most religion- the statements cannot be tested.
That is what separates religion from science.
Another thing science depends on is using sources of other people who did the work with scientific methods since you should be able to reproduce their work if you did the same thing. If cancer researchers say "AC cannot differentiate" then I trust them over someone like dobson who has no training and who does not use the scientific method. Because either they or someone they know has tested this.
Tho technically, it would be "we have not found a way to cause AC to differentiate yet" and maybe "further- it seems extremely unlikely that AC can be made to differentiate."
One of the markers for "cults" is that they isolate a person from others who are not members of a cult and then work on them.
What do you call sunday school?
Another marker is training members to stay away from or shun those who are not members of the cult.
What do you call christianty when it teaches to keep non-believers out of the congregation?
You never had a chance. I'm not saying you are not intelligent. I was saying it is a tragic waste of many intelligent people's intellect to be playing imaginary mind games when they could be working on reproducible research that would actually advance the human condition. Some very smart people have been lost to religion because they were taught it at the age of 5 before they were rational.
I'm not talking about one or two idiots. I'm talking about otherwise intelligent, rational people, who become completely irrational and turn off their reasoning in those areas that touch on their religion. It is really sad.
The problem is that christianity is a cult that brainwashes it's members before they are capable of rational thought.
So are most other religions. Isolate the children from other ways of thinking and put a lot of made up nonsense left over by ignorant tribes who lived 2,000 years ago. We wouldn't use their medical practices, why do we run our world that way?
I think some of the social rules are good as a basis for society (and helped those societies survive)- the rest is costing us so much it is terrible.
ID is just another example of a huge waste of intelligent people's effort that could be dedicated to real problems. What a tragic waste.
Well if my liver, heart, kidney, leg, eye or several other body parts are bad, I don't see how brain transplants enter into it.
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And it is pretty horrific, you are talking about growing a human body and killing it and only keeping the body part you need (or worse- keeping the body alive and harvesting off of it as you need parts).
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But it seems a lot less horrific if you had some way to only grow the arm and no other part of the body.
There is another basic problem. I know many excellent programmers who have no degree or formal training tho the majority these days do have a degree or formal training.
I also know a lot of "certified" dumbasses. They have the degrees and certifications but they learned the test and have no emotional connection with programming. So they suck- sometimes horrifically.
There is a huge push for certification- but in some cases you cull out the best programmers with these and open your door to nimrods.
I have a computer science degree. I'm good- I used to be better. I will -never- be as good as my high school bud who quit college after 2 years to program full time. He's basically a god- fortunately his company knows it and they compensate him accordingly. He does both impossible things and possible things- just better and cheaper- and faster- than anyone else could do them.
I used to be a top-notch programmer. I'm down to medium now. Sliding into management since I don't want to be a contractor and management pays more otherwise. Top-notch programmers don't get the respect they deserve.
That being said- hordes of drones + core of top notch is a lot better than "all top-notch" or "all drones".
All top notch can't agree on squat. They irritate each other about fine differences in equally perfect but different code.
All drones are much worse. They sometimes could not solve basic problems given almost infinate time. They need an expert to show them what they need to do- then they implement it.
Lots of drones are very good for huge projects- because top-notch programmers should be resolved for the risky, hard stuff- not the "grind it out" stuff.
My opinion- based on hmm... 31 years of experience.
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Former assembly language, cobol, fortran, pascal, lisp, oracle forms, rpg, c, c++, lately java, j2ee programmer- sliding into project management, status reports and meetings.
Please don't take this as an insult because it is not.
You sound really naive bout what people will do to live, to be able to walk again, to be able to see again, even just for fun.
Someone wants to be the first- so they will push to do it. Some rich person who is now 40, can pay to have cells frozen and set aside. Then when they are 60, they can get 40 year old clone parts.
That's the current downside- if you clone a 60 year old you get 60 year old parts as far as the telemerese (sp) tags go. Sure they look young but they die fast. But set aside younger cells and you don't have that issue.
Humans are capable of anything you can imagine and a lot of things you can't imagine.
But addressing your basic argument. Imagine you are Bill Gates. You have an accident and you are told that your liver is damaged and there are few good donors. Your health is severely impaired and you'll probably die within the decade.
All you have to do is burn a billion dollars and a 1,000 failed attempts and you will be back in perfect health since donating to yourself won't require anti-transplant drugs, etc.
Do you think you would pass because the odds were low or you might spend some money?
Hmm lying in bed dying comforted by my family- or landing on mars, setting up beacons and experiments or dying somewhere on the way trying to get there.
I'd take mars. I've already done the dying in bed thing once and it just sucked. Pulled through that time but i was a lot younger and the prognosis was better than I'm proposing.
If you offered that option, I bet you would still have to turn away thousands of people interested in going. Not suicidal depressed people- just people who felt that going to mars one way was their purpose in life or valuable enough to give their life for.
And heck- if I was dying of a disease that was going to kill me in 5-8 years anyway- what's to lose?
Part of the reason the gold was worth getting was the low safety standards. If we had insisted on sending a full brigade of cavalry with every party headed for california so they would be safe and we had charged them for that support after requiring them to have it, there would have been no point.
My point is: We are making it prohibitively expensive to explore space. It doesn't need to be this expensive. The gold was only valuable because we didn't make it prohibitively expensive to mine.
I'm sorry but way more people died travelling to california when america was being explored. We have become so risk averse it is paralyzing us.
It may just be that the best we can hope for is 1/50 blows up. Do we give up space so we can save a few lives when millions die without purpose everyday to allergic reactions, cancer, stupid accidents, animal attacks, religious stupidity, stupid stunts, hazing, beer chugging, etc?
I'm sure many astronauts would accept a higher risk if it meant they could fulfill their purpose and go into space. How terrible it must be to train for many years and then watch all your dreams disappear in a suspended program.
more here...
http://www.cptech.org/ms/harm.html The documents in the Microsoft trial shed new light on the seemingly endless compatibility and interoperability problems with Windows and Microsoft Office. When Microsoft executives proposed making "running any other browser . . . a jolting experience," they were simply adding yet another example of the "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run," corporate legacy.
Microsoft could never have succeeded as a software company if its intentions to sabotage third party products were known earlier, before consumers and third party developers invested billions of dollars and countless hours around the Windows platform.
Thanks! I appreciate your finding an external reference.
This is something I can't provide the proof on because I guess I'm old enough to just be a source. Like I said- I lived the scene and it was common knowledge that lotus would not work for a few weeks when a new dos came out. We all said it back then in my pc group.
Just like Windows 3.11 wouldn't run on Dr Dos and it turned out to be specifically checking for Dr Dos and failing if it was on it.
It was well known back then that "Dos isn't ready until Lotus 1.2.3. doesn't work" because it (and other competitors) were repeatedly broken with dos 3, dos 4, dos 5, dos 6, dos 6.22, dos 6.2, etc. Excel always worked- amazing. A few weeks to a few months later, they would figure out what microsoft had done to them and a patch would fix them.
The new variation as of windows 95 was to certify a product as "ready for windows". Word95 broke standards (back door api calls for performance) but was certified. Products from companies besides Microsoft wouldn't be "ready for windows" unless they followed the API.
Word perfect and others followed the API and were performance hogs.
But I guess someone is rewriting history now. Regardless- I know what I lived through.
Artists get about 10 cents of any apple itunes sale.
They should get about the same for other sales but typically the record company has "promotion" expenses that come to 10 cents (or more sometimes) per sale. So most second tier acts (and many 1st tier acts who can't renegotiate) end up having to tour to make money and may end up owing the record company money after a successful record.
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There is a difference.
Let's use another recent story. Alexander.
Alexander took his troops all over the middle east, getting tons of them killed, killing lots of people. It didn't end until he was personally wounded. Then it was suddenly time to go home.
The only way to make the president of google -really understand- at a gut level what he was doing to people was to do it to him.
The evil response it provoked from google was just gravy. A lucky insight into a heavily spun multi-billion dollar corporation trying to pretend they are nice guys while they are really just a new variant of the same old amoral/work your employees to death/ dirtbags we've always dealt with.
I think the odds that google will consider peoples personal privacy went way up after zd-net gigged the president of google.
Just like CD's with mp3's can hold 200 songs- I am putting entire seasons of TV shows (26 episodes) on one DVD in divx6 avi files. They look super sharp. New players starting to come out (at the $600 level) will play these disks.
So if I can get a season of DVD quality shows on one DVD in HD format, it kinda undercuts the need for BLU-RAY.
Some of the new dvd players are also recorders and can record straight to AVI. They also network and you can copy files from them to and from your computer over your home network. Sub $600! Just can't see Blu Ray making it with the masses compared to an "Mp3" player type video player.
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is just DiVX all over again.
And just like divx- when they decide the market is going to BluRay2, they just stop validating your disks and they become unplayable. (like divx became unplayable for those who forgot).
So you might only be able to make a "DVD" quality copy of a Blu Ray DVD.
Hmmm.
I'll take one for $1 at the corner vendor johnny.
Or you could have a new acc codec that supports full HD quality. Agree you probably couldn't use a standard blu-ray to play back your copies.
At $1 per song... How many songs can you afford to buy? How many songs are there available to listen to? (over a hundred thousand). I'm sorry- even the rich are not going to pay $100,000 for music - especially when if anything goes wrong, or a new kind of media comes out you have to buy it all over again. --- My budget is $40 a week for music, movies and shows. Once I've spent that, there is zero chance I'll spend more.
When I went to college, it was cheaper to copy some books at 10 cents a page on the copier than it was to buy them. The professor would refer to them maybe two or three times the entire semester. Out of the entire book, they would use 2-3 pages.
It was an obvious money scam even then. I reacted then as I do now. And it did not include buying a bunch of books to subsidize a professor making 20 times what I was while I was living in poverty.
Yes that is what the article says- but like many users the question is why is he requiring HTML? It may be that using PDF would solve his problem even tho it does not answer his question.
You are too close to see the forest from the trees. Plus you "have faith" and this is going to be as pointless as arguing with a pig.
I said my points and you read them- good- maybe they will take root.
You've said your points and I've read them. They give me deja vu all over again. No point in continuing from this point- I've done it too many times to do it again.
don't mix with non believers http://www.bible-knowledge.com/bible-friends.html churches expelling for not following church pastor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Waynesville_Bapt ist_Church churches expelling for not following beliefs of church http://www.layman.org/layman/news/news-around-chur ch/baptists-expel.htm http://www.whosoever.org/v4i4/baptists.html --- Qualities of a cult http://www.scientology-kills.org/cults.htm
--- If you grew up non-christian, then you have had chance and you made a choice. Most christian children are brainwashed hard before they even start to think. I grew up christian. I wasn't abused by a pastor, I don't hate the faith, etc. I blinked one day and said, "man this is all bullshit".
I read the bible and said, "man the god of the old testiment is a bastard and I wouldn't want to worship that guy even if he was real".
I read the new bible and said, "This is just like all the other untrue mythologies of old countries-- hey wait a minute- why do I accept that this is true when those are obviously fake?
--- Copying the checklist- think how many of these apply to christian church communities. They are masked when christians make up 80% of the community but many have come out clearly under the stress of modern politics and a multi-cultural society.
The group is focused on a leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment. (So zealous that they will dedicate their entire lives to it)
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. ("Witnessing")
The group is preoccupied with making money. (pretty common)
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. (very common- esp in catholic branch but even methodist)
Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s). (okay- this is not used- one for the christians as a non-cult)
The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth). (Pretty common- huge social pressure to marry in the church- bring children up in the church- etc)
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity). (The leader is dead but otherwise-- check)
The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society. (ye gods is this one true- just listen to any talk radio)
The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations). (This one varies- they often are not accountable for a long time- but I'll grant this one)
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities). (for example, running a political campaign to save a "christian" candidate money or even suggesting the congregation votes for a particular candidate - check)
The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them. (Check- esp w/regard to sex)
Actually that is exactly what the scientific method is about.
You make a definate statement and then you test it prove that the statement is true or false.
That is the problem with most religion- the statements cannot be tested.
That is what separates religion from science.
Another thing science depends on is using sources of other people who did the work with scientific methods since you should be able to reproduce their work if you did the same thing. If cancer researchers say "AC cannot differentiate" then I trust them over someone like dobson who has no training and who does not use the scientific method. Because either they or someone they know has tested this.
Tho technically, it would be "we have not found a way to cause AC to differentiate yet" and maybe "further- it seems extremely unlikely that AC can be made to differentiate."
One of the markers for "cults" is that they isolate a person from others who are not members of a cult and then work on them.
What do you call sunday school?
Another marker is training members to stay away from or shun those who are not members of the cult.
What do you call christianty when it teaches to keep non-believers out of the congregation?
You never had a chance. I'm not saying you are not intelligent. I was saying it is a tragic waste of many intelligent people's intellect to be playing imaginary mind games when they could be working on reproducible research that would actually advance the human condition. Some very smart people have been lost to religion because they were taught it at the age of 5 before they were rational.
I'm not talking about one or two idiots. I'm talking about otherwise intelligent, rational people, who become completely irrational and turn off their reasoning in those areas that touch on their religion. It is really sad.
than norse mythology.
The problem is that christianity is a cult that brainwashes it's members before they are capable of rational thought.
So are most other religions. Isolate the children from other ways of thinking and put a lot of made up nonsense left over by ignorant tribes who lived 2,000 years ago. We wouldn't use their medical practices, why do we run our world that way?
I think some of the social rules are good as a basis for society (and helped those societies survive)- the rest is costing us so much it is terrible.
ID is just another example of a huge waste of intelligent people's effort that could be dedicated to real problems. What a tragic waste.
Well if my liver, heart, kidney, leg, eye or several other body parts are bad, I don't see how brain transplants enter into it. --- And it is pretty horrific, you are talking about growing a human body and killing it and only keeping the body part you need (or worse- keeping the body alive and harvesting off of it as you need parts). --- But it seems a lot less horrific if you had some way to only grow the arm and no other part of the body.
There is another basic problem. I know many excellent programmers who have no degree or formal training tho the majority these days do have a degree or formal training.
I also know a lot of "certified" dumbasses. They have the degrees and certifications but they learned the test and have no emotional connection with programming. So they suck- sometimes horrifically.
There is a huge push for certification- but in some cases you cull out the best programmers with these and open your door to nimrods.
I have a computer science degree. I'm good- I used to be better. I will -never- be as good as my high school bud who quit college after 2 years to program full time. He's basically a god- fortunately his company knows it and they compensate him accordingly. He does both impossible things and possible things- just better and cheaper- and faster- than anyone else could do them.
Or 10 bad ones against an expert.
What's the result.
I used to be a top-notch programmer. I'm down to medium now. Sliding into management since I don't want to be a contractor and management pays more otherwise. Top-notch programmers don't get the respect they deserve.
That being said- hordes of drones + core of top notch is a lot better than "all top-notch" or "all drones".
All top notch can't agree on squat. They irritate each other about fine differences in equally perfect but different code.
All drones are much worse. They sometimes could not solve basic problems given almost infinate time. They need an expert to show them what they need to do- then they implement it.
Lots of drones are very good for huge projects- because top-notch programmers should be resolved for the risky, hard stuff- not the "grind it out" stuff.
My opinion- based on hmm... 31 years of experience. --- Former assembly language, cobol, fortran, pascal, lisp, oracle forms, rpg, c, c++, lately java, j2ee programmer- sliding into project management, status reports and meetings.
Please don't take this as an insult because it is not.
You sound really naive bout what people will do to live, to be able to walk again, to be able to see again, even just for fun.
Someone wants to be the first- so they will push to do it. Some rich person who is now 40, can pay to have cells frozen and set aside. Then when they are 60, they can get 40 year old clone parts.
That's the current downside- if you clone a 60 year old you get 60 year old parts as far as the telemerese (sp) tags go. Sure they look young but they die fast. But set aside younger cells and you don't have that issue.
Humans are capable of anything you can imagine and a lot of things you can't imagine.
But addressing your basic argument. Imagine you are Bill Gates. You have an accident and you are told that your liver is damaged and there are few good donors. Your health is severely impaired and you'll probably die within the decade.
All you have to do is burn a billion dollars and a 1,000 failed attempts and you will be back in perfect health since donating to yourself won't require anti-transplant drugs, etc.
Do you think you would pass because the odds were low or you might spend some money?
Hmm lying in bed dying comforted by my family- or landing on mars, setting up beacons and experiments or dying somewhere on the way trying to get there. I'd take mars. I've already done the dying in bed thing once and it just sucked. Pulled through that time but i was a lot younger and the prognosis was better than I'm proposing.
My buddy "ed" got me a job there.
Sorry ed, I can't see you any more outside work ours.
My girlfriend "jane" got me a job there....
If you offered that option, I bet you would still have to turn away thousands of people interested in going. Not suicidal depressed people- just people who felt that going to mars one way was their purpose in life or valuable enough to give their life for.
And heck- if I was dying of a disease that was going to kill me in 5-8 years anyway- what's to lose?
Part of the reason the gold was worth getting was the low safety standards. If we had insisted on sending a full brigade of cavalry with every party headed for california so they would be safe and we had charged them for that support after requiring them to have it, there would have been no point.
My point is: We are making it prohibitively expensive to explore space. It doesn't need to be this expensive. The gold was only valuable because we didn't make it prohibitively expensive to mine.
the sooner we are going to start moving again.
I'm sorry but way more people died travelling to california when america was being explored. We have become so risk averse it is paralyzing us.
It may just be that the best we can hope for is 1/50 blows up. Do we give up space so we can save a few lives when millions die without purpose everyday to allergic reactions, cancer, stupid accidents, animal attacks, religious stupidity, stupid stunts, hazing, beer chugging, etc?
I'm sure many astronauts would accept a higher risk if it meant they could fulfill their purpose and go into space. How terrible it must be to train for many years and then watch all your dreams disappear in a suspended program.
more here... http://www.cptech.org/ms/harm.html The documents in the Microsoft trial shed new light on the seemingly endless compatibility and interoperability problems with Windows and Microsoft Office. When Microsoft executives proposed making "running any other browser . . . a jolting experience," they were simply adding yet another example of the "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run," corporate legacy. Microsoft could never have succeeded as a software company if its intentions to sabotage third party products were known earlier, before consumers and third party developers invested billions of dollars and countless hours around the Windows platform.
Thanks! I appreciate your finding an external reference.
This is something I can't provide the proof on because I guess I'm old enough to just be a source. Like I said- I lived the scene and it was common knowledge that lotus would not work for a few weeks when a new dos came out. We all said it back then in my pc group.
Just like Windows 3.11 wouldn't run on Dr Dos and it turned out to be specifically checking for Dr Dos and failing if it was on it.
I came via Apple II+ -> Amiga -> Ibm.
It was well known back then that "Dos isn't ready until Lotus 1.2.3. doesn't work" because it (and other competitors) were repeatedly broken with dos 3, dos 4, dos 5, dos 6, dos 6.22, dos 6.2, etc. Excel always worked- amazing. A few weeks to a few months later, they would figure out what microsoft had done to them and a patch would fix them.
The new variation as of windows 95 was to certify a product as "ready for windows". Word95 broke standards (back door api calls for performance) but was certified. Products from companies besides Microsoft wouldn't be "ready for windows" unless they followed the API.
Word perfect and others followed the API and were performance hogs.
But I guess someone is rewriting history now. Regardless- I know what I lived through.
Artists get about 10 cents of any apple itunes sale.
They should get about the same for other sales but typically the record company has "promotion" expenses that come to 10 cents (or more sometimes) per sale. So most second tier acts (and many 1st tier acts who can't renegotiate) end up having to tour to make money and may end up owing the record company money after a successful record.