Not to mention, this sounds like the kind of plan that could easily result in the loss of two crews, instead of one.
They used to say if man could fly, he'd have wings. But he did fly. He discovered he had to. Do you wish that the first Apollo mission hadn't reached the moon?
That's like a doctor saying they wished that they still operated with leeches and sewed their patients up with catgut like their great-great-grandfathers used to!
You're right in pointing out the enormous danger potential in that. But I must point out that the possibilities, the potential for knowledge and advancement is equally great!
Risk! Risk was their business!
That's what these spaceships were all about. That's why they crews were aboard them!
The engineers would have stood by to lauch the Atlantis.
The foam strike was not observed live. Only after the shuttle was orbiting Earth did NASA's launch imagery review reveal that the wing had been hit. Foam strikes during launch were not uncommon events, and shuttle program managers elected not to take on-orbit images of Columbia to visually assess any potential damage. Instead, NASA's Debris Assessment Team mathematically modeled the foam strike but could not reach any definitive conclusions about the state of the shuttle's wing.
It's not just the TSA management though - It's also the people.
A year or so ago, TSA management announced that some sharps would be allowed back on planes. Makes sense - With post 9/11 policies in place it's not like you're going to take down a plane with a pen knife. The outcry from the flying public, flight attendants & the media forced the TSA to back pedal back to banning them.
...so if you want non-stupid policies we the people have to loudly applaud when their are tiny steps in that direction, not flee in panic.
I've never really understood the point of sporting video games. If you're playing a game, why wouldn't you fly a spaceship or kill aliens or build a railway or raid tombs or do something that you couldn't otherwise do in real life?
Why play a soccer video game when you can just go outside and play soccer?
(Exceptions, of course, for those people with physical disabilities. If you like soccer and don't have use of your legs I suppose it makes sense, but I also assume this is a small minority of players.)
Is China a paradise? No damn way - But writing something like this belittles the terrible suffering that goes on in North Korea.
I work with a lot of Chinese - None of them were shot when they emigrated. None of them that successfully emigrated found their family and friends, including children, tortured and killed to punish them.
Chinese can travel, go to the movies, buy a car.
None of these options exist for the average North Korean.
So you are poorly informed AND you have a weak imagination.
Hey Anonymous Coward, pull your head out of the sand.
Can Saudis leave their country?
Are Saudis starving to death?
Are mothers of Saudi newborn Saudi babies forced to drown them?
Is crystal meth the only medicine available to a sick Saudi?
Is Saudi Arabia a paradise? No damn way - But to suggest Saudi Arabia is as bad as North Korea is an INSULT to your fellow humans in North Korea, including children for christ's sake, who are suffering and dying.
IMO the path to taking down North Korea is via China.
North Korea only exists due to the largesse of China.
If the world really cared, China would be publicly shamed everywhere on the planet - Pictures of starving Koreans in front of every embassy, consulate and trade mission. Protests in front of the offices of every state-run businesses - Huawei, Lenovo, the lot.
Basically deeply embarrass China into realizing propping up this criminal state isn't worth it - Babies are being drowned? China's fault. If / when they let NK go, it will tumble down like a house of cards.
I think what a lot of people (particularly Slashdotters) fail to realize is the cost to produce some of these shows. Take a show like Portlandia - You'd think you could shoot it with a handycam and a Macbook, but in fact there is a large crew of professionals behind the scenes -
Why is America a super power? Because we work our asses off. Nuff said.
What benefit does that give you, as an American, over a Canadian?
Other than thumping your chest and saying "We're a superpower (that pats down grannies at checkpoints) BOO YAH!" what benefit does that yield *you*, as a person compared to a Canadian?
latinum is one of the few materials that can't be replicated
If you have no need for currency, what difference does it make, other than if you value latinium as a collectors' item? i.e. if you don't have to pay for anything who cares if you can or can't replicate it?
Data (and Lore) are the only sentient machines
Your robot doesn't have to be sentient to weld spaceships together or make and serve dinner. If the computers can create holographic doctors I'm sure they can drive waiters.
The economics of Star Trek never made any kind of sense to me, which is, I suppose, why the various series and movies never real dove into them that deeply.
Why are Ferengi obsessed with gold-pressed latinum if you can just replicate anything you might need to acquire? Why, in Undiscovered Country, DS9 and others do you see people working menial jobs? If there's no notion of pay why would you do something menial and boring? Why, other than Data, do we see virtually zero automation via robots? Why do people crawl around outside spaceships welding them together?
....and don't get me started on the holodeck. If everything is 'free' I'd just move in there.
I used to be an atheist until God talked. I'm not all as excited as I used to be about fighting superstition. You are like a ten year old who hasn't discovered girls yet. God can synchronize and does synchronize all the events of the world.
I do not believe god 'talked' to TempleOS, nor do I believe god 'synchronizes' the events of the world.
Neverthless, I'll risk a little karma and ask: Why was he modded down?
What about his post was troll / offtopic / flamebait etc?
There is no "I disagree" mod on Slashdot. Please don't substitute one of the above in its place.
Slashdot Mirror
Docked Columbia at the ISS
No. RTFA.
I may be totally wrong.
You are. Sorry.
OP couldn't have gotten first post if he'd RTFA'd.
The cool kids already RTFA four+ hours ago when it appeared on Digg & Reddit.
Not to mention, this sounds like the kind of plan that could easily result in the loss of two crews, instead of one.
They used to say if man could fly, he'd have wings. But he did fly. He discovered he had to. Do you wish that the first Apollo mission hadn't reached the moon?
That's like a doctor saying they wished that they still operated with leeches and sewed their patients up with catgut like their great-great-grandfathers used to!
You're right in pointing out the enormous danger potential in that. But I must point out that the possibilities, the potential for knowledge and advancement is equally great!
Risk! Risk was their business!
That's what these spaceships were all about. That's why they crews were aboard them!
The engineers would have stood by to lauch the Atlantis.
From TFA:
The foam strike was not observed live. Only after the shuttle was orbiting Earth did NASA's launch imagery review reveal that the wing had been hit. Foam strikes during launch were not uncommon events, and shuttle program managers elected not to take on-orbit images of Columbia to visually assess any potential damage. Instead, NASA's Debris Assessment Team mathematically modeled the foam strike but could not reach any definitive conclusions about the state of the shuttle's wing.
The mission continued.
It's not just the TSA management though - It's also the people.
...so if you want non-stupid policies we the people have to loudly applaud when their are tiny steps in that direction, not flee in panic.
A year or so ago, TSA management announced that some sharps would be allowed back on planes. Makes sense - With post 9/11 policies in place it's not like you're going to take down a plane with a pen knife. The outcry from the flying public, flight attendants & the media forced the TSA to back pedal back to banning them.
They don't give a shit about our safety - that's why it has to be legislated and why they ALWAYS fight safety legislation. Always.
They fight a lot of it because it raises the price of their cars which in turn causes consumers to delay their purchases.
Let's imagine you could buy a car that was $2000 cheaper without airbags - Would people buy them?
I've never really understood the point of sporting video games. If you're playing a game, why wouldn't you fly a spaceship or kill aliens or build a railway or raid tombs or do something that you couldn't otherwise do in real life?
Why play a soccer video game when you can just go outside and play soccer?
(Exceptions, of course, for those people with physical disabilities. If you like soccer and don't have use of your legs I suppose it makes sense, but I also assume this is a small minority of players.)
You must be new here.
Time to haul my Pentax K-1000 & Vivitar 285 out of the attic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_K-1000
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/61441-REG/Vivitar_233965_285HV_Flash.html
China is doing much the same
Is China a paradise? No damn way - But writing something like this belittles the terrible suffering that goes on in North Korea.
I work with a lot of Chinese - None of them were shot when they emigrated. None of them that successfully emigrated found their family and friends, including children, tortured and killed to punish them.
Chinese can travel, go to the movies, buy a car.
None of these options exist for the average North Korean.
So you are poorly informed AND you have a weak imagination.
Hey Anonymous Coward, pull your head out of the sand.
Can Saudis leave their country?
Are Saudis starving to death?
Are mothers of Saudi newborn Saudi babies forced to drown them?
Is crystal meth the only medicine available to a sick Saudi?
Is Saudi Arabia a paradise? No damn way - But to suggest Saudi Arabia is as bad as North Korea is an INSULT to your fellow humans in North Korea, including children for christ's sake, who are suffering and dying.
IMO the path to taking down North Korea is via China.
North Korea only exists due to the largesse of China.
If the world really cared, China would be publicly shamed everywhere on the planet - Pictures of starving Koreans in front of every embassy, consulate and trade mission. Protests in front of the offices of every state-run businesses - Huawei, Lenovo, the lot.
Basically deeply embarrass China into realizing propping up this criminal state isn't worth it - Babies are being drowned? China's fault. If / when they let NK go, it will tumble down like a house of cards.
That's not a large crew of "professionals". That's a large crew of people standing around doing nothing of value.
The people to the left of the ladder are the actors & extras in the episode in question. The people to the right of the ladder are the professionals.
I think what a lot of people (particularly Slashdotters) fail to realize is the cost to produce some of these shows. Take a show like Portlandia - You'd think you could shoot it with a handycam and a Macbook, but in fact there is a large crew of professionals behind the scenes -
...so if you're going to Kickstart the most basic of shows you'll need a lot of money.
http://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/winter-in-portlandia-2.jpg
Why is America a super power? Because we work our asses off. Nuff said.
What benefit does that give you, as an American, over a Canadian?
Other than thumping your chest and saying "We're a superpower (that pats down grannies at checkpoints) BOO YAH!" what benefit does that yield *you*, as a person compared to a Canadian?
This is Slashdot, where the edge use case wins, every time.
latinum is one of the few materials that can't be replicated
If you have no need for currency, what difference does it make, other than if you value latinium as a collectors' item? i.e. if you don't have to pay for anything who cares if you can or can't replicate it?
Data (and Lore) are the only sentient machines
Your robot doesn't have to be sentient to weld spaceships together or make and serve dinner. If the computers can create holographic doctors I'm sure they can drive waiters.
The economics of Star Trek never made any kind of sense to me, which is, I suppose, why the various series and movies never real dove into them that deeply.
....and don't get me started on the holodeck. If everything is 'free' I'd just move in there.
Why are Ferengi obsessed with gold-pressed latinum if you can just replicate anything you might need to acquire? Why, in Undiscovered Country, DS9 and others do you see people working menial jobs? If there's no notion of pay why would you do something menial and boring? Why, other than Data, do we see virtually zero automation via robots? Why do people crawl around outside spaceships welding them together?
Rent a boat in Key West and sail it due south. Let us know if you bump into anything.
and a few LM ascent stages
Wonder how beat up those are...
The Jade Rabbit is nothing compared to the "junk" left all over the moon by the Apollo Missions
Yeah, but it's wicked awesome cool junk -
- Moon cars
- Hasselblad cameras
- Descent stages
- Plaques
- Laser reflectors
- Space boots
Granted, the golf balls and urine bags are a bit messy.
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
I used to be an atheist until God talked. I'm not all as excited as I used to be about fighting superstition. You are like a ten year old who hasn't discovered girls yet. God can synchronize and does synchronize all the events of the world.
I do not believe god 'talked' to TempleOS, nor do I believe god 'synchronizes' the events of the world.
Neverthless, I'll risk a little karma and ask: Why was he modded down?
What about his post was troll / offtopic / flamebait etc?
There is no "I disagree" mod on Slashdot. Please don't substitute one of the above in its place.
Ditto Air Canada's in-flight entertainment system. Not sure what flavour, but it definitely runs Linux.
Last time I checked, one of the most significant events to impact our society was perpetrated by nineteen individuals
In 2012 alone, there were 34,000 motor vehicle deaths in the USA. Nearly 32,000 in 2011.
What has changed in terms of driver licensing, training and laws to address this?