Well said.
The parent poster sounds overqualified with limited to no experience in the industry.
Its a trap many students fall into due to a combination of there nievity and aarogance.
Unless the parent posters ready to start from the bottom, I dont see much of a future in the workplace.
Amen to that.
The situation surrounding irresponsibility and 'passing the buck', is reaching a point where I feel there is a dire need for serious inquiry into social values.
It's about time; we the people, and visionaries of the future take a stand and attempt to instill values and attitudes into society that will produce a brighter future.
In the meanwhile, the baby boomer generation continues to endevor to minimise accountability & responcability.
Its no supprise subsequent generations are in decline when those who they are ment to look up are only concerened with them selves.
They; refuse to take responcability for there childrens lack of morals/values, while they go to work and spend there days automaticaly "pass the buck" when they are held accountiable in the workplace, before they understand what the problem is.
And.
Liquidate family assets and investments to buy there new sports, car's and and plasma screen TV's, to inflate there egos in responce to a mid/late life crissis, at the cost of there grand childrens futures.
I mean, if these short sighted, greedy, irresponcable inderviduals are the people were ment to look up too, its no supprise subsequent generations are in the state of decline they are.
I stand corrected.
Perhaps Obi-wan was haboring ill feelings towards R2D2 for the whole elevator insodent, and suspects it was appart of R2's greater intergelatix plan and that R2D2 is infeact the REAL Sith lord?
Its alot easier to just ASSume than research a topic. Sadly its complacency combined with this type of mentality thats playing right into the greedy old oil industries hands.
I wonder when certain inderviduals will grow up and do somthing for someone else (future generations) for a change.
As a rough estimation, you can keep your PC pretty well up to date for about $250AUD per year.
Console gamers pay $300AUD for a new console every ~3 years, then ~$60AUD per game (allowing for 2.5 new games per year before the expendature exceeds $250AUD). If you purchase more than 3 games per year, then your spending aproximatly more than you would on a PC.
Things are changing slowly as consoles have taken to CDs (allowing for CD burning), but theres still a strong culture of spending $ in the console community - which is good as it keeps the games industry alive. But bad as it breeds a mindless consumer culture.
Well said.
But i think we have to try and remember most console gamers are 1> Stupid and 2> Been hybernating on there parents lounge, cheeks stained yellow from cheetos, for about the past 20 years.
Alots been happening in the games industry, but sadly they've been to asfixiated with there magic windows (consoler term for TV) to know this.
"The challenge is to step outside of those molds, not just add a new supergun, Divine intervention, or set it on the methane ice tundra of Narvom-4"
But sadly thats what spoilt, little, money laden, console gamers classify as "innovation". And there the suckers buying the games, so i guess thats where the markets going to look.
"How the fuck did you manage to miss "Rise of the Triad" (1994)"
Thanks for pointing that one out. I was racking my brain to try and remember a good example for that one.
Still remmeber bringing that babby home on a stack of 1.4mg floppies, each seperatly sheathed in a plastic slip, held together with a red elastic band.
"worth playing as a REAL FPS. FPS are supposed to be FAST!!! F'n Halo sucks and will suck until they can speed up the game play."
They could speed up the game, but then console gamers would have to dislodge there heads from there butts and admit that gamepads are inefficient, inaccurate pieces of crap.
There slowly begining to realise this as some halo2 players who have a kboard/mouse set up flaunt what seems almost magical accuracy and speed to the weak minded little console gamers.
That being said, i still enjoy playing platform, and 1vs1 fighting games with a gamepad =)
"Mind giving a list of all these mods?"
www.planetquake.com, im sure you dont need me to hold your hand while you search through them.
"MMORPG have been around a lot longer than todays time."
No, you would be refering to Multiplayer games (MUDs/Mush etc), theres a reason why theres an additional M in MMOG/MMORPG.
"Can you bludgeon people with ANY weapon in hand in Quake? Or do you have to switch to a specific weapon for melee?"
Switch between. However considering you can write a macro to achieve the same ends as Halo in Quake, does it matter?
A differant animation to represent the same result is hardly "innovative"
"I can't remember any Quake plugin back from 1996 that had vehicles that you could get in and out of or had the same dynamic in gameplay as Halo."
I was too lazy to referance each game that primarly contributed to each element due to the idiocy of the origional respponder. But your right, this one mainly came from Tribes
"they come together and are balanced creates very deep multiplayer gameplay I haven't seen in any other game"
Of course you havent seen it before, thats because youve been living in an alternative console-centric universe. Otherwise know as having ur head stuck up your ass.
Using to compliment ranged attacks was prevelant in Quake MODS such as Ninja Quake.
Grenades were very well implimented into Halflife. Hell, i (PC gamer) was the one who introduced my console buddies (butt heads) to the wonders of grenades.
"Two or three man vehicles in halo I'm not sure are done anywhere else"
Again, please refer to my statment about ur head being lodged between the warm mucus secreting, epithelium lining of your colon and say a big "Hello Tribes" which was released ~1998, but was a healthy gaming community almost a year before that. Or for a more resent example "Battlefield 1942"
"only being able to carry two weapons you switch between I don't think is done anywhere else either
While your up there, say hello to Team Fortress.
My god, what a sad pathetic little world you console gamers live in. You wonder why PC gamers give a big scarcastic "whoopy-doo" to Halo and Halo2. Its because we've been playing these damn games for 11 years now, while you console jockies have been veging on your parents couch, stuffing your face with cheetos.
Warning flamable material below.
Its about time you console gamers pulled your slow, inaccturate, and ineffective gamepads out of your ritch-daddies butt and face the fact that its very rear that ANYTHING innovative hit'x the console market these days. Every single feature you have named has been in existance the respective mod came out in Quake1 (~1996).
This post almost made me laugh as hard as when my console loving buddies thought playing there beloved FPS (halo 1) with >4 players was a sign of the second coming.
They'd lay eggs if they could see todays MMOGs, that is if there heads wernt lodged up there backsides.
Still... im yet to find someone mroe stupid than a guy i once new in highschool who believed that c:\format c:" followed by "y" reported how much ram you have.
Unfortunatly his Daddy was a banker.
Just dont mistake them for jaffas and break them between your teeth...listerine would have nothing on the freshing action of an atomic exlosion in your oral cavity.
Sorry but I feel an overwhelming urge to point this out.
All your answers are at best, vague, generalist and un-factual. Which sadly dosent supprise me, but unfortunatly makes for a poor debate and dose nothing to futher anyones understanding of the topic being debated.
On the flipside, it is interesting material from which various behavioural trats which you exhibit can be observed.
Anyway, just thought id point out how usless these responces are.
Religion can be a usful tool to carry moral, and ethical principles, as well as providing a means of excape for times that may prove too hard for one to endure.
But it matters little how long or hard a religious person prays or believes, without the ability to percieve reality for what it is, and the will to carry the appropiate action to yield the desired result, religious nutters are only going to be more deadweight on society.
Geee, and to think that someone who believes in an omni-potent all powerful being who created the universe (despite any evidence to support it) could be irrational... such shake the fragile foundations of my security and what's left of my mental stability, they must be hearsay and blasphemy!
"Torch the heathen, if he is pure he shalt not burn!"
"The scientology website is the LAST place I would look for actual, factual information."
Ive a sneaking suspiscion that Legion303 wasent trying to get people to "give scientology a chance" by reading the information, but gaguing by the hints at refreshing was going more for the "mass flood of refreshing hoards" to crash there servers approach.
I couldent agree with you more (as i suspect most of the readers here do also) that "It's propaganda,"
"The Church of Scientology (or: CoS; or: Co$, as some of their opponents call it) sells its followers expensive courses which, if students study them carefully, are supposed to set them free ('clear' them)."
It clears there heads alright. Clears it of reason and the ability to think for them selves.
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Well said.
The parent poster sounds overqualified with limited to no experience in the industry.
Its a trap many students fall into due to a combination of there nievity and aarogance.
Unless the parent posters ready to start from the bottom, I dont see much of a future in the workplace.
Amen to that. The situation surrounding irresponsibility and 'passing the buck', is reaching a point where I feel there is a dire need for serious inquiry into social values. It's about time; we the people, and visionaries of the future take a stand and attempt to instill values and attitudes into society that will produce a brighter future.
Another day passes, and another American forgets the principles layed down by there founding fathers.
Its sad.
Maybe the US needs another civil war or some other great tradjity to wake them up and work towards a brighter future.
In the meanwhile, the baby boomer generation continues to endevor to minimise accountability & responcability.
Its no supprise subsequent generations are in decline when those who they are ment to look up are only concerened with them selves.
They; refuse to take responcability for there childrens lack of morals/values, while they go to work and spend there days automaticaly "pass the buck" when they are held accountiable in the workplace, before they understand what the problem is.
And.
Liquidate family assets and investments to buy there new sports, car's and and plasma screen TV's, to inflate there egos in responce to a mid/late life crissis, at the cost of there grand childrens futures.
I mean, if these short sighted, greedy, irresponcable inderviduals are the people were ment to look up too, its no supprise subsequent generations are in the state of decline they are.
I stand corrected.
Perhaps Obi-wan was haboring ill feelings towards R2D2 for the whole elevator insodent, and suspects it was appart of R2's greater intergelatix plan and that R2D2 is infeact the REAL Sith lord?
R2D2 could have had his memory erased
Towards the end of the movie, Bail Organa tells his a worker to wipe R2D2 and C-3P0's memory banks?
Its alot easier to just ASSume than research a topic. Sadly its complacency combined with this type of mentality thats playing right into the greedy old oil industries hands.
I wonder when certain inderviduals will grow up and do somthing for someone else (future generations) for a change.
Oerm, I think you ment to say "occam's razor"
As a rough estimation, you can keep your PC pretty well up to date for about $250AUD per year.
Console gamers pay $300AUD for a new console every ~3 years, then ~$60AUD per game (allowing for 2.5 new games per year before the expendature exceeds $250AUD). If you purchase more than 3 games per year, then your spending aproximatly more than you would on a PC.
Things are changing slowly as consoles have taken to CDs (allowing for CD burning), but theres still a strong culture of spending $ in the console community - which is good as it keeps the games industry alive. But bad as it breeds a mindless consumer culture.
Well said.
But i think we have to try and remember most console gamers are 1> Stupid and 2> Been hybernating on there parents lounge, cheeks stained yellow from cheetos, for about the past 20 years.
Alots been happening in the games industry, but sadly they've been to asfixiated with there magic windows (consoler term for TV) to know this.
"The challenge is to step outside of those molds, not just add a new supergun, Divine intervention, or set it on the methane ice tundra of Narvom-4"
But sadly thats what spoilt, little, money laden, console gamers classify as "innovation". And there the suckers buying the games, so i guess thats where the markets going to look.
"How the fuck did you manage to miss "Rise of the Triad" (1994)"
Thanks for pointing that one out. I was racking my brain to try and remember a good example for that one.
Still remmeber bringing that babby home on a stack of 1.4mg floppies, each seperatly sheathed in a plastic slip, held together with a red elastic band.
"worth playing as a REAL FPS. FPS are supposed to be FAST!!! F'n Halo sucks and will suck until they can speed up the game play."
They could speed up the game, but then console gamers would have to dislodge there heads from there butts and admit that gamepads are inefficient, inaccurate pieces of crap.
There slowly begining to realise this as some halo2 players who have a kboard/mouse set up flaunt what seems almost magical accuracy and speed to the weak minded little console gamers.
That being said, i still enjoy playing platform, and 1vs1 fighting games with a gamepad =)
Amen to that.
"Mind giving a list of all these mods?"
www.planetquake.com, im sure you dont need me to hold your hand while you search through them.
"MMORPG have been around a lot longer than todays time."
No, you would be refering to Multiplayer games (MUDs/Mush etc), theres a reason why theres an additional M in MMOG/MMORPG.
"Can you bludgeon people with ANY weapon in hand in Quake? Or do you have to switch to a specific weapon for melee?"
Switch between. However considering you can write a macro to achieve the same ends as Halo in Quake, does it matter?
A differant animation to represent the same result is hardly "innovative"
"I can't remember any Quake plugin back from 1996 that had vehicles that you could get in and out of or had the same dynamic in gameplay as Halo."
I was too lazy to referance each game that primarly contributed to each element due to the idiocy of the origional respponder. But your right, this one mainly came from Tribes
"they come together and are balanced creates very deep multiplayer gameplay I haven't seen in any other game"
Of course you havent seen it before, thats because youve been living in an alternative console-centric universe. Otherwise know as having ur head stuck up your ass.
Using to compliment ranged attacks was prevelant in Quake MODS such as Ninja Quake.
Grenades were very well implimented into Halflife. Hell, i (PC gamer) was the one who introduced my console buddies (butt heads) to the wonders of grenades.
"Two or three man vehicles in halo I'm not sure are done anywhere else"
Again, please refer to my statment about ur head being lodged between the warm mucus secreting, epithelium lining of your colon and say a big "Hello Tribes" which was released ~1998, but was a healthy gaming community almost a year before that. Or for a more resent example "Battlefield 1942"
"only being able to carry two weapons you switch between I don't think is done anywhere else either
While your up there, say hello to Team Fortress.
My god, what a sad pathetic little world you console gamers live in. You wonder why PC gamers give a big scarcastic "whoopy-doo" to Halo and Halo2. Its because we've been playing these damn games for 11 years now, while you console jockies have been veging on your parents couch, stuffing your face with cheetos.
For crying out loud, get a clue.
Warning flamable material below. Its about time you console gamers pulled your slow, inaccturate, and ineffective gamepads out of your ritch-daddies butt and face the fact that its very rear that ANYTHING innovative hit'x the console market these days. Every single feature you have named has been in existance the respective mod came out in Quake1 (~1996). This post almost made me laugh as hard as when my console loving buddies thought playing there beloved FPS (halo 1) with >4 players was a sign of the second coming. They'd lay eggs if they could see todays MMOGs, that is if there heads wernt lodged up there backsides.
Impatient and poor movie entheusiasts; Could they form the new axis of evil?
Stay tuned for Georges great inquisition upon common sense in the age of reason. Coming soon to a P2P
network near you!
I always wanted to revisit the darkages.
Still... im yet to find someone mroe stupid than a guy i once new in highschool who believed that c:\format c:" followed by "y" reported how much ram you have. Unfortunatly his Daddy was a banker.
Just dont mistake them for jaffas and break them between your teeth...listerine would have nothing on the freshing action of an atomic exlosion in your oral cavity.
Not to mention fish dont fly around the universe at speed of light in jugenaught sized spaceships like we do.... oh wait a minute.
Sorry but I feel an overwhelming urge to point this out. All your answers are at best, vague, generalist and un-factual. Which sadly dosent supprise me, but unfortunatly makes for a poor debate and dose nothing to futher anyones understanding of the topic being debated. On the flipside, it is interesting material from which various behavioural trats which you exhibit can be observed. Anyway, just thought id point out how usless these responces are. Religion can be a usful tool to carry moral, and ethical principles, as well as providing a means of excape for times that may prove too hard for one to endure. But it matters little how long or hard a religious person prays or believes, without the ability to percieve reality for what it is, and the will to carry the appropiate action to yield the desired result, religious nutters are only going to be more deadweight on society.
Geee, and to think that someone who believes in an omni-potent all powerful being who created the universe (despite any evidence to support it) could be irrational... such shake the fragile foundations of my security and what's left of my mental stability, they must be hearsay and blasphemy! "Torch the heathen, if he is pure he shalt not burn!"
"The scientology website is the LAST place I would look for actual, factual information." Ive a sneaking suspiscion that Legion303 wasent trying to get people to "give scientology a chance" by reading the information, but gaguing by the hints at refreshing was going more for the "mass flood of refreshing hoards" to crash there servers approach. I couldent agree with you more (as i suspect most of the readers here do also) that "It's propaganda,"
"The Church of Scientology (or: CoS; or: Co$, as some of their opponents call it) sells its followers expensive courses which, if students study them carefully, are supposed to set them free ('clear' them)." It clears there heads alright. Clears it of reason and the ability to think for them selves.