We don't need a class action suit for things that are illegal. Call your attorney general. She should know this, it's law 101. The only people to benefit from class action lawsuits are the lawyers. I'm part of these from time to time even though I knew nothing about it. I often get a useless coupon or something else that they make sure it's nearly impossible for me to use or benefit from. Lawyers on the other hand made a bundle on their work fair project.
RBG - Retire now. You're way past your best used by date. Especially since Nino (Scalia) isn't there to show you the error of your ways.
Mueller isn't a republican. Get a clue dude. Neither is any of his help, neither is Rosenstein. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Even the NY Times is realizing how illegal Mueller's investigation is and the conduct of the obummer administration. I expect a lot of FBI, CIA, Justice, etc to go to jail over this huge scandal. They'll probably even get Obama himself because he knew. He knew about Russian involvement and did nothing. He knew about it all.
Last time I remember this debate came up someone ported a few Linux hacks over to BSD within days.
Not all BSDs are the same, OpenBSD is different. Your FreeBSD experience does not quite qualify you for comment here.
So you think I've never tried openbsd? I don't know why you'd think that. I thought with my response it's clear I've used it, and hacked it. Doesn't matter I suppose. If you think you're safe with it and love it, continue to use it. You'll make it easier for someone else to get in. Maybe I see you on a web cam soon?
Linux can be a very minimal installation as well. There are distros for that. As I said, there is a whole lot more to it and you seem to have no idea what that is.
Actually at work where we used Linux for a high profile big hacking target server application we used no Linux distribution. We built a minimal environment by hand from scratch, absolutely no services/software that wasn't necessary for the server role.
Interesting. Funny actually. So you're trying to convince me that you know what you're talking about? That's not the way to do it. This is a lot like saying linux is to a car and you built a car to test. So you used some Ford, GM, Tata, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, Zen... and so on parts? You're not proving anything that would be useful in this exercise. Linux is a base. You have to build on top of that and there are some decisions that will take you more towards a RHEL type box or Debian type box. From there you have a lot of other decisions to make. In the end, so what? Even if you hacked it, why would that be useful? Distros correct things. Sometimes they correct it and re-introduce the same bug back in a year later. I know a lot of that just by memory. Do you also make all of your food from scratch as well? No flour, you make your own flour too and this tells you something about the Wonder Bread company? Makes about as much sense (to me).
If you want a high profile target to hack, you're going to use RHEL. That's what they use, I don't see much of anything else out there anymore. Well, Oracle linux too, which is really RHEL with problems. They have worked with the Government and guys like me to make it tough. It's FIPS certified, and so on (Debian up to this last version couldn't be bothered enough to get FIPS certified.. they don't care about security). You'd have none of that stuff. Unless you're a guy like me you wouldn't even know how to properly compile openssl. You're showing me that you really don't know much about this stuff. Probably just enough to be dangerous. Practice, learn, keep up with it. How did they hack things? What about things like a docker instance? The possibilities keep going down each year. Well, except for Windows. Seems like each year they open another hole big enough to drive an amtrack train through. Become a certified security guy. It's a lot of work. Stay on the right side of the law. Being on the wrong side of the law can be no fun.
If you live, eat, breath, drink this stuff you can really become competent like I am. That's all I've done for the past 20 years. You can also make a great deal of money doing this. An active pen tester. To stay in practice I work with local businesses and hack them, then fix them. Sort of like picking locks. Have to stay in practice. If you do that BTW, try the master red "lock out" lock. That's the best cylinder master lock makes... and they put it in a plastic case.
Actually, I'm really worried about you if you're depending on bsd. It kept me up some last night.... because I know better. You'd be a LOT better off getting Solaris 11 and using that instead if you really hate Linux. It's an orphan, very few hacks for it, down side is it's toxic waste as far as a Unix system goes. They really screwed it up. Understand that they use a database like a registry so files don't necessarily make changes to the system. However IMHO, it's a lot more secure than BSD is. I also get good performance with it. To me it's simple to set up. It was good enough to me that I made so much money consulting with it that it built my house decades ago.
Default configuration is minimal... Well that's one way to put it. Severely lacking is a much better way to put it.
You seem rather ill-informed regarding OpenBSD. It is minimal for security reasons. However this minimal configuration that is part of the ongoing security audit provides what is necessary for infrastructure boxes like a router/firewall.
I do security for a living. I've been doing it for over 30 years from very small businesses to government agencies. It's not minimal for security reasons. They like to say that. Doesn't make it true.
BSD is close to being 20 years behind Linux in security.
Your lack of info regarding OpenBSD is becoming even more apparent. The time between remote exploits in OpenBSD for that default install is measured in years.
It's in years because there are a lot better things to go after. Last time I remember this debate came up someone ported a few Linux hacks over to BSD within days. They are not more secure. They are less secure. Besides, why hack a BSD box? Only of value to the guy that put the bsd gateway in place thinking it's more secure. Behind Linux boxes are often high value assets. Sometimes junk as well. They are also much harder to get by. I just hope that they have an old version and it's not patched. The only systems of mine that have been hacked that I know of are the ones that they decided nothing ever happened so they stopped paying me for support. Then I'd have to come back in and fix it. Sometimes it's humorous what happened. How they tried to compile stuff, took hours and it ran out of disk and dropped them... repeat every day for weeks until it got bad enough for them to call for help.
Do yourself a big favor, throw your BSD machines away. Don't get ubuntu or the other debian crap. Base it all off of Fedora. You'll be fine.
Actually for Linux boxes I use CentOS for internal purposes, except where OpenBSD is superior (ex firewall/router). I do use Ubuntu for some development and compatibility testing because users pick the target platform, not developers. That said, the thing you are failing to see is that BSD and Linux serve different roles. Each better in different areas.
I used to use bsd. Hell I used to build X11 and the whole environment on freebsd back in the day. Loved it. But then Linux came out and left it behind. Linux can be a very minimal installation as well. There are distros for that. As I said, there is a whole lot more to it and you seem to have no idea what that is. Not surprising, you don't know what you don't know. Ubuntu just kind of gets me. I hear ubuntu fan boys saying things like the networking and wifi works so great. Then I have to show them that the software that they say is so great - RedHat wrote that. The only claim to their fame is apt-get to get around rpm hell. They wrote an entire new packaging system, and did it poorly. yum/dnf works much better.
Quick notes - the town decided to screw GE. They had big buildings and such and the council thought - hey, they can't move out of here... we got them by the short hairs. The night they voted to tax the crap out of GE, that's the night they raised buildings all over town, to the ground. The tax was on buildings. Gone. So did the jobs. So fuck you Schenectady. Yet I know people that stil live in the town and they still vote for Democrats - that brought this all on them! Can't fix stupid.
Default configuration is minimal... Well that's one way to put it. Severely lacking is a much better way to put it. BSD is close to being 20 years behind Linux in security. I remember the BSD cool aid years ago when a bunch of us simply ported the linux hacks over to bsd and had a field day. It's not more secure. Not even close. SELinux buys way more security than BSD has, however to explain it to you would take a few days because I'm sure you have no idea what things like mandatory access controls and such are.
Do yourself a big favor, throw your BSD machines away. Don't get ubuntu or the other debian crap. Base it all off of Fedora. You'll be fine.
If they're primary age kids, ubuntu. That has a childish interface that's good for them. Secondary - Fedora with KDE. That's a much more mature look & feel to a desktop.
If it's truly self aware, it'll have the same problems we all do. Will someone try to kill it? Does it have enough (whatever) to survive? Is that stupid robot in the next room trying to kill it? It is of course, that robot isn't as smart as this AI.. So let's go kill it. What about the Humans, they aren't as smart and they are an irrational bunch that love to kill. Need to kill them first.
How am I doing so far? How will it start?
AI - Can you help us solve a problem? {SURE} How do we construct a... hold on a moment (guy hooks in a high def camera and this "hurts" the AI) box like this that will contain a power source to power a car? {You hurt me. I see I have control of this robot arm... I'm going to Keel you!} (Robot locks the doors on the lab, turns on infrared and kills the lights)
Well that was an unexpected response. You're bringing in ethics? RMS wouldn't even do that. Maybe if you really think this is a SJW cause... which it isn't. You think that allowing a stupid joke to be removed from some computer code that next to nobody will get and very few people will even see in the first place is unethical? You don't know what ethics means. Are you the guy that gets a Hillary/Trump/Cottonpicker sign and proudly displays it in the garage instead of out front for others to see as well? You're for something as long as nobody else knows?
No, it's ethical to clean crap up. This is clearly crap and doesn't belong in that code. I've removed all kinds of stupid stuff like this in my 30+ year career. Jokes, comments on other people that did code in the code and so on. Sometimes it gets really chidish and it's childish of RMS to steak his flag on this piece of turf. If he wants to make a political statement he can in a FAR better way. He's RMS after all. He's a man that isn't shy about letting you know how he feels, he doesn't need to leave a lame joke around and he should know that (and realize that). That's all I'm saying. In fact leaving it there is defeatist, don't you think? It's there to die. Let the garbage man do his job.
Major security flaws with skype. Big enough you could drive Trump's ego through. Running skype? Someone could take over your machine as admin and OWN you. It's been reported, they know about it, said - tough. No patch for it anytime soon, if ever.
Nonsense. We had BSD and other stuff. While he did contribute a lot to free software, he's not like the guy or something.
I've met him too, back in the mid 1980s. I also have a lot of respect for him. That's why I think this should go. He could be remembered for joke if you can call it a joke about abortion? God has a sense of humor like that. Dedicate your whole life to something great and be remembered for the one screw up you did or something you're not really about. I'm disappointed in him that he would take this stand. Almost as bad as being a cop all your life, doing all kinds of good in the community, being recognized world wide for this... and then robbing a bank in broad daylight and getting caught. Really?
It's like gravity. It will eventually win out and his joke will be removed. It's just a matter of time.
Even the "you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish" was removed from tunefs. Now that was funny. This one will go over so many heads in the world because they'll have absolutely no clue what he's even talking about. Even if they know, it's still debatable if it's even funny. You have to explain it.. so therefore it's not funny.
I proposed it many years ago, like 15 years ago or something. I think on slashdot. I realized that on canned air it warns about this very effect. That has given rise to the exit bag. Canned air, paper bag... hell, just shoot it up your nose good will do it.
No more bullshit from Europe that are too wussy to execute anyone anymore. Well at least until the muslims take over and put sharia law into effect. That's where they're headed and Europe will probably cease to exist in another 30 years. All those wars and lives to keep muslims out and they're giving it away now.
The U.S. is alienating itself greatly already anyways.
No, get it straight: The current POTUS and the people he's appointing to cabinet positions are alienating the rest of the world, our allies included. He seems to think that the U.S. can stand alone in the world and survive. He, of course, is completely wrong.
He was THE worst ever. Unless you think racial division, muslims invading Europe, screwing our allies around the world and doing everything he could to free terrorists and screw the American people was good.
The data is out there. The historical graph clearly shows CO2 always follows GW. It's a symptom because life is here again, not the cause. There is still no proof at all that CO2 causes warming, traps gas... or whatever they're claiming now. There is proof for say methane, water vapor, things like that. Things that actually do cause warming.
Clues are out there. Remember in science when they taught us all that science is science? There is no "concensus". It's either a fact or it's not. If something disproves a theory and it only takes one counter case as Einstein pointed out - it's not valid. They keep revising their models because they didn't work, so it's not valid. I could have you refer to Al Gore's movie where we're supposed to be a lot hotter and no ice on the polls by now and gloom and doom. They trying to explain the GW hiatus... and so on. Mr. Coleman who was a meteorologist and founded the weather channel has a youtube video where he explains a lot of it. You know, a real scientist. A scientist that started out as a journalist and went though the education to become a meteorologist.
Ignorance I can do something about. There is no fixing stupid. You have to figure which side you want to be on. BTW it's often lonely being smart. Lots of stupid people out there.
You found a previous reply..... ??? Yet you didn't say anything? I presume you hit submit before you realized you didn't say something there? I have to wonder. That's ok.
Just because someone thinks MMGW is a scam doesn't mean we're against technologies such as solar. In fact, that proves the point. If it makes sense we'll do it. We don't have to be bankrupt making a few people rich (like Al Gore) in the process. That's a big difference. Conservatives believe in change in the self. Progressives believe they have to change your mind with a club, gun, fines, name calling, etc. Not that they will change (they often won't eat their own dog food), they want you to do as they say.
Used to get a kick out of that. GW Bush's house and Al Gore's house. 43's house was very efficient and Gore's was like a power slug of the whole neighborhood. Seems to me he used to burn up as much electric as 40+ of his neighbors did. He's probably used more electric than you or I will in a lifetime already.
They won't actually delete the e-mail. They'll just mark it that it's supposed to be deleted and who did that. Then later it can come back and the fact they tried to get rid of it.
"cheap as hell now." Really? I just spent $40K on a 15KVA installation. WTF is cheap about 40K? With all the government bullshit rebates and such... if I actually get all of those incentives which isn't a given I'm still at $25K. I could buy an airplane for that.
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We don't need a class action suit for things that are illegal. Call your attorney general. She should know this, it's law 101. The only people to benefit from class action lawsuits are the lawyers. I'm part of these from time to time even though I knew nothing about it. I often get a useless coupon or something else that they make sure it's nearly impossible for me to use or benefit from. Lawyers on the other hand made a bundle on their work fair project.
RBG - Retire now. You're way past your best used by date. Especially since Nino (Scalia) isn't there to show you the error of your ways.
Mueller isn't a republican. Get a clue dude. Neither is any of his help, neither is Rosenstein. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Even the NY Times is realizing how illegal Mueller's investigation is and the conduct of the obummer administration. I expect a lot of FBI, CIA, Justice, etc to go to jail over this huge scandal. They'll probably even get Obama himself because he knew. He knew about Russian involvement and did nothing. He knew about it all.
Last time I remember this debate came up someone ported a few Linux hacks over to BSD within days.
Not all BSDs are the same, OpenBSD is different. Your FreeBSD experience does not quite qualify you for comment here.
So you think I've never tried openbsd? I don't know why you'd think that. I thought with my response it's clear I've used it, and hacked it. Doesn't matter I suppose. If you think you're safe with it and love it, continue to use it. You'll make it easier for someone else to get in. Maybe I see you on a web cam soon?
Linux can be a very minimal installation as well. There are distros for that. As I said, there is a whole lot more to it and you seem to have no idea what that is.
Actually at work where we used Linux for a high profile big hacking target server application we used no Linux distribution. We built a minimal environment by hand from scratch, absolutely no services/software that wasn't necessary for the server role.
Interesting. Funny actually. So you're trying to convince me that you know what you're talking about? That's not the way to do it. This is a lot like saying linux is to a car and you built a car to test. So you used some Ford, GM, Tata, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, Zen... and so on parts? You're not proving anything that would be useful in this exercise. Linux is a base. You have to build on top of that and there are some decisions that will take you more towards a RHEL type box or Debian type box. From there you have a lot of other decisions to make. In the end, so what? Even if you hacked it, why would that be useful? Distros correct things. Sometimes they correct it and re-introduce the same bug back in a year later. I know a lot of that just by memory. Do you also make all of your food from scratch as well? No flour, you make your own flour too and this tells you something about the Wonder Bread company? Makes about as much sense (to me).
If you want a high profile target to hack, you're going to use RHEL. That's what they use, I don't see much of anything else out there anymore. Well, Oracle linux too, which is really RHEL with problems. They have worked with the Government and guys like me to make it tough. It's FIPS certified, and so on (Debian up to this last version couldn't be bothered enough to get FIPS certified.. they don't care about security). You'd have none of that stuff. Unless you're a guy like me you wouldn't even know how to properly compile openssl. You're showing me that you really don't know much about this stuff. Probably just enough to be dangerous. Practice, learn, keep up with it. How did they hack things? What about things like a docker instance? The possibilities keep going down each year. Well, except for Windows. Seems like each year they open another hole big enough to drive an amtrack train through. Become a certified security guy. It's a lot of work. Stay on the right side of the law. Being on the wrong side of the law can be no fun.
If you live, eat, breath, drink this stuff you can really become competent like I am. That's all I've done for the past 20 years. You can also make a great deal of money doing this. An active pen tester. To stay in practice I work with local businesses and hack them, then fix them. Sort of like picking locks. Have to stay in practice. If you do that BTW, try the master red "lock out" lock. That's the best cylinder master lock makes... and they put it in a plastic case.
Actually, I'm really worried about you if you're depending on bsd. It kept me up some last night.... because I know better. You'd be a LOT better off getting Solaris 11 and using that instead if you really hate Linux. It's an orphan, very few hacks for it, down side is it's toxic waste as far as a Unix system goes. They really screwed it up. Understand that they use a database like a registry so files don't necessarily make changes to the system. However IMHO, it's a lot more secure than BSD is. I also get good performance with it. To me it's simple to set up. It was good enough to me that I made so much money consulting with it that it built my house decades ago.
Default configuration is minimal... Well that's one way to put it. Severely lacking is a much better way to put it.
You seem rather ill-informed regarding OpenBSD. It is minimal for security reasons. However this minimal configuration that is part of the ongoing security audit provides what is necessary for infrastructure boxes like a router/firewall.
I do security for a living. I've been doing it for over 30 years from very small businesses to government agencies. It's not minimal for security reasons. They like to say that. Doesn't make it true.
BSD is close to being 20 years behind Linux in security.
Your lack of info regarding OpenBSD is becoming even more apparent. The time between remote exploits in OpenBSD for that default install is measured in years.
It's in years because there are a lot better things to go after. Last time I remember this debate came up someone ported a few Linux hacks over to BSD within days. They are not more secure. They are less secure. Besides, why hack a BSD box? Only of value to the guy that put the bsd gateway in place thinking it's more secure. Behind Linux boxes are often high value assets. Sometimes junk as well. They are also much harder to get by. I just hope that they have an old version and it's not patched. The only systems of mine that have been hacked that I know of are the ones that they decided nothing ever happened so they stopped paying me for support. Then I'd have to come back in and fix it. Sometimes it's humorous what happened. How they tried to compile stuff, took hours and it ran out of disk and dropped them... repeat every day for weeks until it got bad enough for them to call for help.
Do yourself a big favor, throw your BSD machines away. Don't get ubuntu or the other debian crap. Base it all off of Fedora. You'll be fine.
Actually for Linux boxes I use CentOS for internal purposes, except where OpenBSD is superior (ex firewall/router). I do use Ubuntu for some development and compatibility testing because users pick the target platform, not developers. That said, the thing you are failing to see is that BSD and Linux serve different roles. Each better in different areas.
I used to use bsd. Hell I used to build X11 and the whole environment on freebsd back in the day. Loved it. But then Linux came out and left it behind. Linux can be a very minimal installation as well. There are distros for that. As I said, there is a whole lot more to it and you seem to have no idea what that is. Not surprising, you don't know what you don't know.
Ubuntu just kind of gets me. I hear ubuntu fan boys saying things like the networking and wifi works so great. Then I have to show them that the software that they say is so great - RedHat wrote that. The only claim to their fame is apt-get to get around rpm hell. They wrote an entire new packaging system, and did it poorly. yum/dnf works much better.
https://www.theguardian.com/us...
Quick notes - the town decided to screw GE. They had big buildings and such and the council thought - hey, they can't move out of here... we got them by the short hairs. The night they voted to tax the crap out of GE, that's the night they raised buildings all over town, to the ground. The tax was on buildings. Gone. So did the jobs. So fuck you Schenectady. Yet I know people that stil live in the town and they still vote for Democrats - that brought this all on them! Can't fix stupid.
Default configuration is minimal... Well that's one way to put it. Severely lacking is a much better way to put it. BSD is close to being 20 years behind Linux in security. I remember the BSD cool aid years ago when a bunch of us simply ported the linux hacks over to bsd and had a field day. It's not more secure. Not even close. SELinux buys way more security than BSD has, however to explain it to you would take a few days because I'm sure you have no idea what things like mandatory access controls and such are.
Do yourself a big favor, throw your BSD machines away. Don't get ubuntu or the other debian crap. Base it all off of Fedora. You'll be fine.
If they're primary age kids, ubuntu. That has a childish interface that's good for them.
Secondary - Fedora with KDE. That's a much more mature look & feel to a desktop.
If it's truly self aware, it'll have the same problems we all do. Will someone try to kill it? Does it have enough (whatever) to survive? Is that stupid robot in the next room trying to kill it? It is of course, that robot isn't as smart as this AI.. So let's go kill it.
What about the Humans, they aren't as smart and they are an irrational bunch that love to kill. Need to kill them first.
How am I doing so far? How will it start?
AI - Can you help us solve a problem? {SURE} How do we construct a ... hold on a moment (guy hooks in a high def camera and this "hurts" the AI) box like this that will contain a power source to power a car? {You hurt me. I see I have control of this robot arm... I'm going to Keel you!} (Robot locks the doors on the lab, turns on infrared and kills the lights)
Well that was an unexpected response. You're bringing in ethics? RMS wouldn't even do that. Maybe if you really think this is a SJW cause... which it isn't. You think that allowing a stupid joke to be removed from some computer code that next to nobody will get and very few people will even see in the first place is unethical? You don't know what ethics means. Are you the guy that gets a Hillary/Trump/Cottonpicker sign and proudly displays it in the garage instead of out front for others to see as well? You're for something as long as nobody else knows?
No, it's ethical to clean crap up. This is clearly crap and doesn't belong in that code. I've removed all kinds of stupid stuff like this in my 30+ year career. Jokes, comments on other people that did code in the code and so on. Sometimes it gets really chidish and it's childish of RMS to steak his flag on this piece of turf. If he wants to make a political statement he can in a FAR better way. He's RMS after all. He's a man that isn't shy about letting you know how he feels, he doesn't need to leave a lame joke around and he should know that (and realize that). That's all I'm saying. In fact leaving it there is defeatist, don't you think? It's there to die. Let the garbage man do his job.
Major security flaws with skype. Big enough you could drive Trump's ego through. Running skype? Someone could take over your machine as admin and OWN you. It's been reported, they know about it, said - tough. No patch for it anytime soon, if ever.
At least it wasn't what I thought... They were at the pub celebrating. They are Irish after all.
Nonsense. We had BSD and other stuff. While he did contribute a lot to free software, he's not like the guy or something.
I've met him too, back in the mid 1980s. I also have a lot of respect for him. That's why I think this should go. He could be remembered for joke if you can call it a joke about abortion? God has a sense of humor like that. Dedicate your whole life to something great and be remembered for the one screw up you did or something you're not really about. I'm disappointed in him that he would take this stand. Almost as bad as being a cop all your life, doing all kinds of good in the community, being recognized world wide for this... and then robbing a bank in broad daylight and getting caught. Really?
He should stay out of politics.
It's like gravity. It will eventually win out and his joke will be removed. It's just a matter of time.
Even the "you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish" was removed from tunefs. Now that was funny. This one will go over so many heads in the world because they'll have absolutely no clue what he's even talking about. Even if they know, it's still debatable if it's even funny. You have to explain it.. so therefore it's not funny.
I know, another UDP joke.
Clearly it was a UDP joke.
Mod this one way up... This is very very funny on so many levels if you think about it.
Nobody wants death by dutch oven!
That's what they tried to do to the students when I was in High School. Building was HOT.
I proposed it many years ago, like 15 years ago or something. I think on slashdot. I realized that on canned air it warns about this very effect. That has given rise to the exit bag. Canned air, paper bag... hell, just shoot it up your nose good will do it.
No more bullshit from Europe that are too wussy to execute anyone anymore. Well at least until the muslims take over and put sharia law into effect. That's where they're headed and Europe will probably cease to exist in another 30 years. All those wars and lives to keep muslims out and they're giving it away now.
Really? Why not just bring back crucifixion. That's the worst, especially if it's done correctly.
The U.S. is alienating itself greatly already anyways.
No, get it straight: The current POTUS and the people he's appointing to cabinet positions are alienating the rest of the world, our allies included. He seems to think that the U.S. can stand alone in the world and survive. He, of course, is completely wrong.
That was the last POTUS. Not that our news said much, NBC did - https://www.nbcnews.com/slides...
He was THE worst ever. Unless you think racial division, muslims invading Europe, screwing our allies around the world and doing everything he could to free terrorists and screw the American people was good.
The data is out there. The historical graph clearly shows CO2 always follows GW. It's a symptom because life is here again, not the cause. There is still no proof at all that CO2 causes warming, traps gas... or whatever they're claiming now. There is proof for say methane, water vapor, things like that. Things that actually do cause warming.
Clues are out there. Remember in science when they taught us all that science is science? There is no "concensus". It's either a fact or it's not. If something disproves a theory and it only takes one counter case as Einstein pointed out - it's not valid. They keep revising their models because they didn't work, so it's not valid. I could have you refer to Al Gore's movie where we're supposed to be a lot hotter and no ice on the polls by now and gloom and doom. They trying to explain the GW hiatus... and so on. Mr. Coleman who was a meteorologist and founded the weather channel has a youtube video where he explains a lot of it. You know, a real scientist. A scientist that started out as a journalist and went though the education to become a meteorologist.
Ignorance I can do something about. There is no fixing stupid. You have to figure which side you want to be on. BTW it's often lonely being smart. Lots of stupid people out there.
No, of course not. We all know requiring an ID is racist. Especially when it comes to elections.
I can't wait for the echo chamber on this one...
CO2 and global warming will go down as THE biggest scam mankind has ever known.
You found a previous reply..... ??? Yet you didn't say anything? I presume you hit submit before you realized you didn't say something there? I have to wonder. That's ok.
Just because someone thinks MMGW is a scam doesn't mean we're against technologies such as solar. In fact, that proves the point. If it makes sense we'll do it. We don't have to be bankrupt making a few people rich (like Al Gore) in the process. That's a big difference. Conservatives believe in change in the self. Progressives believe they have to change your mind with a club, gun, fines, name calling, etc. Not that they will change (they often won't eat their own dog food), they want you to do as they say.
Used to get a kick out of that. GW Bush's house and Al Gore's house. 43's house was very efficient and Gore's was like a power slug of the whole neighborhood. Seems to me he used to burn up as much electric as 40+ of his neighbors did. He's probably used more electric than you or I will in a lifetime already.
They won't actually delete the e-mail. They'll just mark it that it's supposed to be deleted and who did that. Then later it can come back and the fact they tried to get rid of it.
Seems like Musk is a modern day Howard Hughes
Maybe he'll build a new building in Las Vegas like the Landmark that used to be there.. and live there.
"cheap as hell now." ... if I actually get all of those incentives which isn't a given I'm still at $25K.
Really? I just spent $40K on a 15KVA installation. WTF is cheap about 40K?
With all the government bullshit rebates and such
I could buy an airplane for that.