There's also eCos:
eCos is an open source, royalty-free, real-time operating system intended for embedded applications. The highly configurable nature of eCos allows the operating system to be customised to precise application requirements, delivering the best possible run-time performance and an optimised hardware resource footprint.
I think what he means is that an appropriate punishment for stealing $100 would be to go to jail for 10 days or pay a $500 fine instead of getting your hand chopped off.
I see what you're saying, but my experience has been that even $120 is way too much for most people; they end up pirating Office and all the rest of the "must have" programs that are non-free. Another reason beyond price to push OO is to simply break the monopoly of MS Office products in schools and industry; the more variety we have, the better it will be for everyone in the long run.
"...and I got an educational copy of office from my school and have full access to ms tech support..."
Not everybody is a student with access to cheap educational pricing. Also, how many licenses do you buy if you have several computers? Technically, you need a license for every computer; so what do households with 2 or more computers have to pay MS for valid licenses? Since OO works perfectly fine for most things (especially short reports for school), I don't see how it's worth paying for MS Office unless you really need some specific functionality only available in MS products.
I wish more companies would realize this when doing interviews. Asking language specific syntax questions is such a useless way to judge how well the candidate grasps the fundamentals. I find that too many HR departments rely on "syntax tests" that ask the candidate to de-mangle spaghetti code to prove they know the language syntax instead of conceptual stuff. And, as you said, specific syntax related issues can be solved with a quick Google search.
Check out MonkeyTex, which uses pdftex for processing. It has collaboration features etc. I think that Latex is an amazing way to go for online collaboration, especially these days since many people are learning how to edit wikis using markup languages; so learning the Latex syntax is not the big leap it was 5-10 years ago.
Why can't it be both at the same time? Couldn't we use something similar to IMAP for documents (IDAP maybe?)? The client app (e.g. OpenOffice) would cache your file locally and upload changes to the server. Personally, I'm not a fan of all this AJAX stuff. While cool, I can't stand using Google Docs because of the lag; it feels like I'm working on a 386.
You may not be able to use them at home, but most university labs have expensive FPGAs lying around collecting dust. This is good news for people doing research at universities, where they often like to tinker with the hardware to try out new ideas.
Not to mention that soft-core processors are quite useful (for FPGA or ASIC). See the Xilinx Microblaze and Altera Nios II, which are commercial offerings. There is a large demand for open hardware (see http://opencores.org/ and a processor core is an important building block. Just because you may never read the source, you can still instantiate them in your design and use them.
How many of you have looked at the glibc source code? Doesn't stop people from using it.
Like I said, CPU usage is largely affected by how many torrents are open and how active they are. If you have torrents open that are using up a lot of bandwidth (~1MB/s), you should see your CPU usage climb, not to mention the IO activity to your disk. In any event, I think the 100MB RAM requirement pretty much kills any argument for using Azureus on a cell phone.;)
I find your 0-2% CPU usage estimate for Azeurus hard to reconcile with my own experience, which is more like 15-30% (of course, this depends on how many torrents are open). The only torrent client I've used that has been in the <2% range is rtorrent. When I use ktorrent, which is a native KDE app, I get about 15% CPU usage, so I would guess that a Java app like Azureus would be on par or worse than that. A quick google search brought up some pages where users are complaining about Azureus CPU usage of 60% and up.
It's not Java that takes a lot of resources, it's Azureus; check out the resources it uses on a regular desktop machine in terms of RAM and CPU usage. If you wanted to run Azureus in the background without having it greatly impact performance, I would think a better processor is needed; not just more speed, but cache too.
In addition to the ram, you'd also need a WAY more powerful processor, and a lot more storage space on your phone to make it practical. You'd be basically turning your phone into a tablet PC, so why not just get one of those? Also, what about battery life? Azureus constantly running on your phone would drain it pretty quick.
I have to agree with you there; I can still play ET on my old P3/866 box. Medal of Honor, while good, was basically a rip-off of ET. BattleField 1942 introduced new gameplay, but it was/is such a resource hog I stopped playing it (buggy too).
I don't think it matters. How many people do you think have read that FAQ? MS is using brainwashing tactics by constantly repeating that Novel and Microsoft have signed a patent agreement. Since the agreement really did happen, everything else MS says about Novell, Suse and Linux must be true, right?
I can't believe the money involved in these "IP" settlements. Millions of dollars for things like "embedded content in a webpage". MS is at the mercy of patent trolls like everybody else, so MS is using the same gorilla tactics to protect their interests. They had to pay $500 million in a previous settlement.. that's half a billion dollars, for infringing on some supposed IP. Where do they get these numbers from? As long as there's a payoff for stupid patents, we're going to see FUD from MS and others.
I just posted about the Neo1973 from OpenMoko. It will be released soon and should cost between $300-450, depending on the model. It runs Linux and has a default GTK+ based user interface.
There are some YouTube videos showing Qtopia running on the Neo1973. You can check out the wiki article here
Familiarity: if the course staff knows Eclipse, then it's less effort to standardize on Eclipse than to have to learn the ins-and-outs of another IDE.
Funding: IBM is doing a lot of software engineering around Eclipse, and there's funding available for people doing Eclipse-centric work. See point 1 for what happens when profs and their students start to work with Eclipse.
I'm curious as to why you say everyone will switch to Netbeans. My experience has been that Eclipse is preferred over Netbeans more often than not, from students programming in a university environment to EDA vendors for embedded systems providing their own plugins.
A "real" bomber wouldn't have put the device on the outside of their clothes. I mean, it's almost as stupid as trying to hijack an airplane with box cutters...
For those of you who say the cops overreacted, just imagine what would have happened if she'd tried this stunt in Israel. Also, this could easily have been staged by a newspaper hoping to catch security napping. I say the cops did the right thing, and we should applaud them for it.
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I did it 3 days ago using adept as recommended:
$ kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"
The upgrade completed without any problems
I think what he means is that an appropriate punishment for stealing $100 would be to go to jail for 10 days or pay a $500 fine instead of getting your hand chopped off.
I see what you're saying, but my experience has been that even $120 is way too much for most people; they end up pirating Office and all the rest of the "must have" programs that are non-free. Another reason beyond price to push OO is to simply break the monopoly of MS Office products in schools and industry; the more variety we have, the better it will be for everyone in the long run.
"...and I got an educational copy of office from my school and have full access to ms tech support..."
Not everybody is a student with access to cheap educational pricing. Also, how many licenses do you buy if you have several computers? Technically, you need a license for every computer; so what do households with 2 or more computers have to pay MS for valid licenses? Since OO works perfectly fine for most things (especially short reports for school), I don't see how it's worth paying for MS Office unless you really need some specific functionality only available in MS products.
I wish more companies would realize this when doing interviews. Asking language specific syntax questions is such a useless way to judge how well the candidate grasps the fundamentals. I find that too many HR departments rely on "syntax tests" that ask the candidate to de-mangle spaghetti code to prove they know the language syntax instead of conceptual stuff. And, as you said, specific syntax related issues can be solved with a quick Google search.
Check out MonkeyTex, which uses pdftex for processing. It has collaboration features etc. I think that Latex is an amazing way to go for online collaboration, especially these days since many people are learning how to edit wikis using markup languages; so learning the Latex syntax is not the big leap it was 5-10 years ago.
Why can't it be both at the same time? Couldn't we use something similar to IMAP for documents (IDAP maybe?)? The client app (e.g. OpenOffice) would cache your file locally and upload changes to the server. Personally, I'm not a fan of all this AJAX stuff. While cool, I can't stand using Google Docs because of the lag; it feels like I'm working on a 386.
You may not be able to use them at home, but most university labs have expensive FPGAs lying around collecting dust. This is good news for people doing research at universities, where they often like to tinker with the hardware to try out new ideas.
Not to mention that soft-core processors are quite useful (for FPGA or ASIC). See the Xilinx Microblaze and Altera Nios II, which are commercial offerings. There is a large demand for open hardware (see http://opencores.org/ and a processor core is an important building block. Just because you may never read the source, you can still instantiate them in your design and use them. How many of you have looked at the glibc source code? Doesn't stop people from using it.
Like I said, CPU usage is largely affected by how many torrents are open and how active they are. If you have torrents open that are using up a lot of bandwidth (~1MB/s), you should see your CPU usage climb, not to mention the IO activity to your disk. In any event, I think the 100MB RAM requirement pretty much kills any argument for using Azureus on a cell phone. ;)
I find your 0-2% CPU usage estimate for Azeurus hard to reconcile with my own experience, which is more like 15-30% (of course, this depends on how many torrents are open). The only torrent client I've used that has been in the <2% range is rtorrent. When I use ktorrent, which is a native KDE app, I get about 15% CPU usage, so I would guess that a Java app like Azureus would be on par or worse than that. A quick google search brought up some pages where users are complaining about Azureus CPU usage of 60% and up.
It's not Java that takes a lot of resources, it's Azureus; check out the resources it uses on a regular desktop machine in terms of RAM and CPU usage. If you wanted to run Azureus in the background without having it greatly impact performance, I would think a better processor is needed; not just more speed, but cache too.
In addition to the ram, you'd also need a WAY more powerful processor, and a lot more storage space on your phone to make it practical. You'd be basically turning your phone into a tablet PC, so why not just get one of those? Also, what about battery life? Azureus constantly running on your phone would drain it pretty quick.
I have to agree with you there; I can still play ET on my old P3/866 box. Medal of Honor, while good, was basically a rip-off of ET. BattleField 1942 introduced new gameplay, but it was/is such a resource hog I stopped playing it (buggy too).
hah! Yes, you're right on both counts!
I don't think it matters. How many people do you think have read that FAQ? MS is using brainwashing tactics by constantly repeating that Novel and Microsoft have signed a patent agreement. Since the agreement really did happen, everything else MS says about Novell, Suse and Linux must be true, right?
I can't believe the money involved in these "IP" settlements. Millions of dollars for things like "embedded content in a webpage". MS is at the mercy of patent trolls like everybody else, so MS is using the same gorilla tactics to protect their interests. They had to pay $500 million in a previous settlement.. that's half a billion dollars, for infringing on some supposed IP. Where do they get these numbers from? As long as there's a payoff for stupid patents, we're going to see FUD from MS and others.
They are due for release soon, I think October. From what Ir read, the release version will be pretty similar to the current development version.
I just posted about the Neo1973 from OpenMoko. It will be released soon and should cost between $300-450, depending on the model. It runs Linux and has a default GTK+ based user interface.
There are some YouTube videos showing Qtopia running on the Neo1973. You can check out the wiki article here
.Crap, wrong button. That should be:
Or, you can buy a $300 GNU/Linux Neo1973 from OpenMoko
Or, you can buy a $300 GNU/Linux Neo1973 from [url=http://www.openmoko.com/]OpenMoko[/url].
I would chalk it up to 2 things:
I'm curious as to why you say everyone will switch to Netbeans. My experience has been that Eclipse is preferred over Netbeans more often than not, from students programming in a university environment to EDA vendors for embedded systems providing their own plugins.
A "real" bomber wouldn't have put the device on the outside of their clothes. I mean, it's almost as stupid as trying to hijack an airplane with box cutters...
For those of you who say the cops overreacted, just imagine what would have happened if she'd tried this stunt in Israel. Also, this could easily have been staged by a newspaper hoping to catch security napping. I say the cops did the right thing, and we should applaud them for it.