You'll note I specified Liberals who said you can't kill criminals because of the sanctity of life. I noted that some are anti-death penalty for other reasons that don't necessarily make them out to be hypocrites.
That's fine. I'm not opposed to selling old games. However, they only have collections for a few of the old Sierra titles, not all of them. Distributing any old Sierra titles will bring Vivendi down on you.
Either sell the the titles, or allow collectors to get them via other means.
You can both rip on Conservatives who are pro-life and pro-death-penalty at the same time, while ripping Liberals who are pro-choice while saying we can't kill criminals because of the sanctity of life.
Okay, another joke just really seemed to cause discomfort with the audience. Colbert said Generals just stand a bank of computers and order people into battle. That was met with some discomfort, and I think reasonably so. Bashing the armed forces usually isn't cool.
I'm watching the video again right now, and the video shows people laughing quite a bit. I'm only half-way through right now, but I've personally witnessed Bush laughing several times at his own expense. So far, the only time crowd seemed offended was at the China crack.
I thought it was painfully obvious that his Republican character he portrays is a joke to espouse his actual Liberal views. It scares me that this might not be obvious to some.
Funny, that is exactly what I said. I didn't blast Ubuntu. I didn't say Ubuntu was wrong. I was asked what I didn't like about Ubuntu, which is a matter of opinion, and then QuantumG busts out personal attacks, calling me a liar and such.
Repeatedly I said there is a market for Ubuntu, and I'm not it.
The real test of SUSE's new package management is going to be upgrades. Can I upgrade from 10 to 11 or from 11 to 12?
Well, upgrading from 10 to 11 can be done, but isn't necessarily easy because the RPM structure changed significantly (for the better). Going from 11 to 11.1, or to 12 shouldn't present the same problems.
but my general opinion is that if I have to configure something, there's a bug somewhere
You so nicely cemented what I was saying about Ubuntu. There is an audience for it, and that audience is very happy living with defaults.
You'll note that none of those developers are in business anymore. Many games that are distributed as abandonware, developers endorse the practice because they want their game to be played by people. Yet big companies bought out the old development houses and go after abandonware sites.
EA never produced the old Ultima games, yet go afte people distributing 20 year old games. Vivendi didn't make the old Sierra adventure games, but they've prosecuted people over them.
I think 5-10 years after someone stops selling software, people should be able to redistribute it as abandonware for software preservation.
That is why in the original thread I recommended selling the game sans DRM completely like Stardock, or try to hook up with Penny Arcade's Greenhouse games. Online distribution - DRM + Linux and Mac ports = win, win and win!
I can see why. You're wrong and you seem to be uninterested in learning this.
I was civil and asked the same of you. You've failed in that regard.
No it isn't. What gave you that idea?
Talking to the devs and hearing them complain about how few people work on the project, and how they don't have communication with the Ubuntu project enough to include the major Ubuntu features in their releases. The facts are pretty clear here. Fedora, Debain, openSUSE, and every major distro pretty much includes both major desktops. Ubuntu gives you zero choice. There is no option to install KDE. That option does not exist. You must download a separate project from a separate site. It does not include the same features. Cannonical places all their eggs in one basket, and a few guys have developed a KDE spin of Ubuntu. However Kubuntu and Ubuntu are not the same. Where as Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, Slackware, Arch, Debian, Gentoo, Sabayon, PCLinuxOS, etc. etc. etc. have one distro with both desktops, and then some.
You officially have no clue what you're talking about, while at the same time trying to talk down to me. Don't be that guy.
Oh, so "vanilla" means "like debian".. that's ok, I like debian. Sounds like you have a different personal preference. This is probably the most legitimate thing you have said in this thread.
You don't know what the term "vanilla package" means, and missed my explanation that it means similar to the upstream packages. Since I'm a guy who likes to be factual, I gave Ubuntu credit for actually not having a vanilla kernel or toolchain, yet those benefits come from Debian. Here I explained that Debian is not vanilla, which is a good thing. Go re-read what I posted. You clearly didn't comprehend it.
When was this? I have a machine with ATI drivers, Ubuntu installed them by default and alerted me that it had done it.
If Ubuntu includes proprietary drives by default, that is seriously news to me. The entire purpose of forking Mint was to include proprietary drivers and codecs. However, I acknowledged this could have changed since the last time I tried it.
However, a quick check on Ubuntu's own website shows that Ubuntu doesn't do this by default.
Are you lying, or is their documentation wrong? See, it isn't polite to call someone a liar. It certainly doesn't feel nice to be called a liar. Seriously, don't be that guy.
Things improve rapidly in the open source world.
It still remains the single worst distro experience I've ever had, and I see no major feature in *buntu to convince me to try it again. In fact, even the KDE devs were bad-mouthing Kubuntu for putting out bad KDE packages. Diplomatically they said certain distros had trouble building and compiling the right packages. It wasn't Fedora, and it wasn't openSUSE. Kubuntu was the only other distro to push out KDE 4, and those packages were universally trashed by people.
Ubuntu has likely improved overall. But so have other distros. openSUSE 11 is a major improvement over 10.x
Well, the official policy of Ubuntu became much clearer about 2 years ago when they started shipping proprietary drivers by default. This is about the time that Jeff Waugh left in a huff. Any strong statements you heard against proprietary drivers or codecs was likely coming from him. I believe the official policy now is "if you want people to stop using proprietary drivers, provide a better free driver" and this happens to match with my own personal opinion on the matter. Other people are militant about remaining pure and are willing to sacrifice a lot to achieve it, but I personally think this was one of the biggest reasons why Ubuntu broke away from Debian in the first place.. that and the insanely slow pace of development.
ATI hasn't released code for those drivers actually. They've released specs and technical documents on newer, high-end Radeon cards.
When you attack someone and say that they're wrong, next time try to have facts on your side.
That doesn't change the fact that when I tried the distro, they were the only ones that had issues with those drivers.
And despite your claims that Ubuntu is the best community (seriously, check out a real helpful, knowledgable community like Gentoo) that doesn't change the fact that people attacked me for asking for help.
The facts are the facts. Your comments don't change them.
I think 11 was a really good release for them. Their KDE 4.0.4 packages had a bunch of KDE 4.1 features back-ported, but KDE 4.0.4 still wasn't something I'd recommend to anyone.
If you do decide to try out KDE 4, upgrade to the 4.1 packages right away.
See, the ATI Express 200M did work fine with Gentoo. This was my wife's laptop, and there were a couple issues with sticking with Gentoo.
She didn't want to wait for compiles on her laptop. It also overheated quite a bit during heavily compiling. We decided to find her a binary distro. Since I loved Gentoo, we eventually settled on Sabayon for her, but I tried Mandriva, Sabayon, openSUSE, Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
And as of this week, my home desktop is no longer Gentoo. It meant leaving behind Reiser4 (which I was a proponent of) and I went with openSUSE on my box. I always enjoyed Gentoo, but I want to give back. I've volunteered to help out with openSUSE, so I need to run it on my home box.
BTW, I should have added. You said thousands of people have no problems with the ATI drivers. That laptop (my wife's old one) had the ATI 200M chipset. When I Googled, I found several people have problems with the drivers and that card/chipset. What I didn't find were any answers. I tried both the OSS and proprietary drivers, and never got either working fully. Search for Ubuntu, ATI 200M and you'll likely find that was the case.
I've done this about five times on Slashdot. Someone asks me what I don't like about Ubuntu, I get modded down troll for answering a question, etc. I don't really feel like arguing, but if you really want to go point-by-point:
No, Kubuntu.
Kubuntu is a separate project worked on by seperate devs. It doesn't get the baseline Ubuntu features for precisely that reason.
I have no idea what you're on about here.
Fire up a Knoppix CD, or Kubuntu and you'll basically see a vanilla KDE desktop. They don't customize the packages, install addition patches, or do anything. Now fire up Mandriva, or openSUSE, or PCLinuxOS, or Arch's KDEMod, or Sabayon, etc. You'll see they've added other patches to expand functionality, fix bugs, backport features, etc. What is the point of 20 million distros if they all ship the same packages?
Many Ubuntu packages are largely the vanilla, upstream package with no changes. (Ubuntu has a decent number of kernel patches and toolchain patches, like many other distros, but they largely inherit these from Debian). openSUSE (my most common example recently, because it is my new favorite of all the major distros I've tried recently) hires devs to backport features, and make the best possible packages they can. Again, many Gnome users praise openSUSE for putting out a bettter Gnome desktop than Ubuntu, because they don't ship vanilla packages.
You get what is needed and you can do your customization after the install process. This is the best decision ever made by the Ubuntu community.
I'm not saying Ubuntu is wrong. I'm saying I don't like it. I want options in my install process to customize it. Ubuntu is targeted at a certain audience. I'm not a member of it. I used to recommend Kubuntu to people who weren't computer savvy and wanted something very simple, and yet I discovered that other distros were just as simple to use, while providing better packages to boot.
It's a theme, you can change it.
I always change the theme on any desktop, but you asked what I don't like. I really don't like Ubuntu brown and orange. A recent poll on the openSUSE forums showed most responders saying they never bother changing the default theme. I don't understand that. Why wouldn't you customize your desktop?
Thousands of others have no problem. Can you install these drivers by clicking "yes" to an option on these other distros?
openSUSE offers a 1-click installer. Sabayon includes them by default. Heck, Mint (a nicer fork of Ubuntu) includes them by default. I followed the instructions on Ubuntu's wiki, yet they never worked. I asked for help and was repeatedly attacked for attempting to use ATI. Mind you, on the exact same laptop (my wife's old laptop) I ran Gentoo with the ATI drivers (custom kernel, -viper release), Sabayon with the ATI drivers, and openSUSE 10.1 with the ATI drivers. The only distro I had problems with was Ubuntu.
If you do advanced things you're expected to know what you are doing. This is the same for any linux distro.
You're not seeing what I'm getting at. I know how to compile my own kernel. I've been doing it for years. Since I'm impatient, even on binary distros I compile my own kernel and manually patch in drivers rather than wait for distros to releasing updated packages. On Ubuntu and Kubuntu, after I made my own kernel, it would not load the ATI module at all. It gave me an error about how it could not load the module because it was missing a restricted modules.deb package. They've gone out of their way to patch into their kernel sources a measure to stop you from using proprietary modules. I've never seen another distro do this. For the stock Ubuntu kernels, this package exists. For custom kernels (I downloaded a -mm kernel and then patched in the Ubuntu diff. I normally always patch in that distro's patches to the kernel in case they are important). If I never patched in the Ubuntu patches, the ATI driver would
* Novell will sell support. * Novell is preinstalled on major OEM computers. * openSUSE will start an installer in Windows, resize your Windows partition automatically, and set-up a dual boot environment. * Out of the box, it will install ntfs-3g and offer write access to your Windows partitions from within Linux. * The installer is simple, yet powerful. The installer is fast. * Package management in openSUSE 11 is now as good as in Ubuntu. Previous to openSUSE 11, it was slow and problematic. * Ubuntu has larger package repositories, but openSUSE puts out solid KDE 3, KDE 4 and Gnome desktops. People have argued it is the best Gnome desktop out there, the best KDE 4 desktop, and the best KDE 4 desktop. * Novell/openSUSE's branch of OpenOffice.org is much nicer than upstream OOo as well. Hardware support is pretty damned good as well. * Yast is arguably the best tool for system management out there, and makes Linux accessible to the masses.
As a disclaimer, I certainly don't support Novell's patent deal, which still ticks me off. That being said, I really like what openSUSE delivers.
If I were going to push/market one distro to the masses, it would be openSUSE.
It is harder to change your OS than your browser. That being said, Linux could still benefit from marketing, as Ubuntu has demonstrated. The problem is that Linux isn't one big, unified community.
I'd like to see something like GetKde.org as a grassroots campaign. KDE apps can be installed on Windows and Mac OS X as a gateway, to allow people to try out OSS before making a big commitment. Pushing a desktop like KDE could be a unified project supported by several major distro communities. Many distros easily install side-by-side with Windows for risk-free dual-booting.
I think most consumers don't even realize that alternatives exist. Linux won't suddenly gain massive market share, but with some marketing it would grow none the less.
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You'll note I specified Liberals who said you can't kill criminals because of the sanctity of life. I noted that some are anti-death penalty for other reasons that don't necessarily make them out to be hypocrites.
Yellow on blue was good enough for NC, and it was good enough for me.
That's fine. I'm not opposed to selling old games. However, they only have collections for a few of the old Sierra titles, not all of them. Distributing any old Sierra titles will bring Vivendi down on you.
Either sell the the titles, or allow collectors to get them via other means.
Not enough people post goatse or rick-rolling links in Slashdot, so we needed to dedicate an entire new area to it?
I look forward to all the lemon party and meat spin misleading links.
You can both rip on Conservatives who are pro-life and pro-death-penalty at the same time, while ripping Liberals who are pro-choice while saying we can't kill criminals because of the sanctity of life.
My wife and I watch RedTube together.
Okay, another joke just really seemed to cause discomfort with the audience. Colbert said Generals just stand a bank of computers and order people into battle. That was met with some discomfort, and I think reasonably so. Bashing the armed forces usually isn't cool.
I'm watching the video again right now, and the video shows people laughing quite a bit. I'm only half-way through right now, but I've personally witnessed Bush laughing several times at his own expense. So far, the only time crowd seemed offended was at the China crack.
I for one, welcome our new dongle overlords.
I just like to say dongle.
I thought it was painfully obvious that his Republican character he portrays is a joke to espouse his actual Liberal views. It scares me that this might not be obvious to some.
Either that or the Republicans can take a joke. I'm pretty sure they knew exactly the type of material Colbert would go for.
You are not the target market for Ubuntu,
Funny, that is exactly what I said. I didn't blast Ubuntu. I didn't say Ubuntu was wrong. I was asked what I didn't like about Ubuntu, which is a matter of opinion, and then QuantumG busts out personal attacks, calling me a liar and such.
Repeatedly I said there is a market for Ubuntu, and I'm not it.
I can't help it if he can't read.
The real test of SUSE's new package management is going to be upgrades. Can I upgrade from 10 to 11 or from 11 to 12?
Well, upgrading from 10 to 11 can be done, but isn't necessarily easy because the RPM structure changed significantly (for the better). Going from 11 to 11.1, or to 12 shouldn't present the same problems.
but my general opinion is that if I have to configure something, there's a bug somewhere
You so nicely cemented what I was saying about Ubuntu. There is an audience for it, and that audience is very happy living with defaults.
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Windows/Installation#KDE_Installer_for_Windows
There is a standard installer that will download the packages and even put them in your Start Menu.
I also enjoy your signature. Very subtle.
Your site says you do Mac ports. Can we get some Linux ports as well please?
You'll note that none of those developers are in business anymore. Many games that are distributed as abandonware, developers endorse the practice because they want their game to be played by people. Yet big companies bought out the old development houses and go after abandonware sites.
EA never produced the old Ultima games, yet go afte people distributing 20 year old games. Vivendi didn't make the old Sierra adventure games, but they've prosecuted people over them.
I think 5-10 years after someone stops selling software, people should be able to redistribute it as abandonware for software preservation.
That is why in the original thread I recommended selling the game sans DRM completely like Stardock, or try to hook up with Penny Arcade's Greenhouse games. Online distribution - DRM + Linux and Mac ports = win, win and win!
I can see why. You're wrong and you seem to be uninterested in learning this.
I was civil and asked the same of you. You've failed in that regard.
No it isn't. What gave you that idea?
Talking to the devs and hearing them complain about how few people work on the project, and how they don't have communication with the Ubuntu project enough to include the major Ubuntu features in their releases. The facts are pretty clear here. Fedora, Debain, openSUSE, and every major distro pretty much includes both major desktops. Ubuntu gives you zero choice. There is no option to install KDE. That option does not exist. You must download a separate project from a separate site. It does not include the same features. Cannonical places all their eggs in one basket, and a few guys have developed a KDE spin of Ubuntu. However Kubuntu and Ubuntu are not the same. Where as Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, Slackware, Arch, Debian, Gentoo, Sabayon, PCLinuxOS, etc. etc. etc. have one distro with both desktops, and then some.
You officially have no clue what you're talking about, while at the same time trying to talk down to me. Don't be that guy.
Oh, so "vanilla" means "like debian".. that's ok, I like debian. Sounds like you have a different personal preference. This is probably the most legitimate thing you have said in this thread.
You don't know what the term "vanilla package" means, and missed my explanation that it means similar to the upstream packages. Since I'm a guy who likes to be factual, I gave Ubuntu credit for actually not having a vanilla kernel or toolchain, yet those benefits come from Debian. Here I explained that Debian is not vanilla, which is a good thing. Go re-read what I posted. You clearly didn't comprehend it.
When was this? I have a machine with ATI drivers, Ubuntu installed them by default and alerted me that it had done it.
If Ubuntu includes proprietary drives by default, that is seriously news to me. The entire purpose of forking Mint was to include proprietary drivers and codecs. However, I acknowledged this could have changed since the last time I tried it.
However, a quick check on Ubuntu's own website shows that Ubuntu doesn't do this by default.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
Are you lying, or is their documentation wrong? See, it isn't polite to call someone a liar. It certainly doesn't feel nice to be called a liar. Seriously, don't be that guy.
Things improve rapidly in the open source world.
It still remains the single worst distro experience I've ever had, and I see no major feature in *buntu to convince me to try it again. In fact, even the KDE devs were bad-mouthing Kubuntu for putting out bad KDE packages. Diplomatically they said certain distros had trouble building and compiling the right packages. It wasn't Fedora, and it wasn't openSUSE. Kubuntu was the only other distro to push out KDE 4, and those packages were universally trashed by people.
Ubuntu has likely improved overall. But so have other distros. openSUSE 11 is a major improvement over 10.x
Well, the official policy of Ubuntu became much clearer about 2 years ago when they started shipping proprietary drivers by default. This is about the time that Jeff Waugh left in a huff. Any strong statements you heard against proprietary drivers or codecs was likely coming from him. I believe the official policy now is "if you want people to stop using proprietary drivers, provide a better free driver" and this happens to match with my own personal opinion on the matter. Other people are militant about remaining pure and are willing to sacrifice a lot to achieve it, but I personally think this was one of the biggest reasons why Ubuntu broke away from Debian in the first place.. that and the insanely slow pace of development.
Perhaps the
ATI hasn't released code for those drivers actually. They've released specs and technical documents on newer, high-end Radeon cards.
When you attack someone and say that they're wrong, next time try to have facts on your side.
That doesn't change the fact that when I tried the distro, they were the only ones that had issues with those drivers.
And despite your claims that Ubuntu is the best community (seriously, check out a real helpful, knowledgable community like Gentoo) that doesn't change the fact that people attacked me for asking for help.
The facts are the facts. Your comments don't change them.
I think 11 was a really good release for them. Their KDE 4.0.4 packages had a bunch of KDE 4.1 features back-ported, but KDE 4.0.4 still wasn't something I'd recommend to anyone.
If you do decide to try out KDE 4, upgrade to the 4.1 packages right away.
See, the ATI Express 200M did work fine with Gentoo. This was my wife's laptop, and there were a couple issues with sticking with Gentoo.
She didn't want to wait for compiles on her laptop. It also overheated quite a bit during heavily compiling. We decided to find her a binary distro. Since I loved Gentoo, we eventually settled on Sabayon for her, but I tried Mandriva, Sabayon, openSUSE, Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
And as of this week, my home desktop is no longer Gentoo. It meant leaving behind Reiser4 (which I was a proponent of) and I went with openSUSE on my box. I always enjoyed Gentoo, but I want to give back. I've volunteered to help out with openSUSE, so I need to run it on my home box.
BTW, I should have added. You said thousands of people have no problems with the ATI drivers. That laptop (my wife's old one) had the ATI 200M chipset. When I Googled, I found several people have problems with the drivers and that card/chipset. What I didn't find were any answers. I tried both the OSS and proprietary drivers, and never got either working fully. Search for Ubuntu, ATI 200M and you'll likely find that was the case.
I've done this about five times on Slashdot. Someone asks me what I don't like about Ubuntu, I get modded down troll for answering a question, etc. I don't really feel like arguing, but if you really want to go point-by-point:
No, Kubuntu.
Kubuntu is a separate project worked on by seperate devs. It doesn't get the baseline Ubuntu features for precisely that reason.
I have no idea what you're on about here.
Fire up a Knoppix CD, or Kubuntu and you'll basically see a vanilla KDE desktop. They don't customize the packages, install addition patches, or do anything. Now fire up Mandriva, or openSUSE, or PCLinuxOS, or Arch's KDEMod, or Sabayon, etc. You'll see they've added other patches to expand functionality, fix bugs, backport features, etc. What is the point of 20 million distros if they all ship the same packages?
Many Ubuntu packages are largely the vanilla, upstream package with no changes. (Ubuntu has a decent number of kernel patches and toolchain patches, like many other distros, but they largely inherit these from Debian). openSUSE (my most common example recently, because it is my new favorite of all the major distros I've tried recently) hires devs to backport features, and make the best possible packages they can. Again, many Gnome users praise openSUSE for putting out a bettter Gnome desktop than Ubuntu, because they don't ship vanilla packages.
You get what is needed and you can do your customization after the install process. This is the best decision ever made by the Ubuntu community.
I'm not saying Ubuntu is wrong. I'm saying I don't like it. I want options in my install process to customize it. Ubuntu is targeted at a certain audience. I'm not a member of it. I used to recommend Kubuntu to people who weren't computer savvy and wanted something very simple, and yet I discovered that other distros were just as simple to use, while providing better packages to boot.
It's a theme, you can change it.
I always change the theme on any desktop, but you asked what I don't like. I really don't like Ubuntu brown and orange. A recent poll on the openSUSE forums showed most responders saying they never bother changing the default theme. I don't understand that. Why wouldn't you customize your desktop?
Thousands of others have no problem. Can you install these drivers by clicking "yes" to an option on these other distros?
openSUSE offers a 1-click installer. Sabayon includes them by default. Heck, Mint (a nicer fork of Ubuntu) includes them by default. I followed the instructions on Ubuntu's wiki, yet they never worked. I asked for help and was repeatedly attacked for attempting to use ATI. Mind you, on the exact same laptop (my wife's old laptop) I ran Gentoo with the ATI drivers (custom kernel, -viper release), Sabayon with the ATI drivers, and openSUSE 10.1 with the ATI drivers. The only distro I had problems with was Ubuntu.
If you do advanced things you're expected to know what you are doing. This is the same for any linux distro.
You're not seeing what I'm getting at. I know how to compile my own kernel. I've been doing it for years. Since I'm impatient, even on binary distros I compile my own kernel and manually patch in drivers rather than wait for distros to releasing updated packages. On Ubuntu and Kubuntu, after I made my own kernel, it would not load the ATI module at all. It gave me an error about how it could not load the module because it was missing a restricted modules .deb package. They've gone out of their way to patch into their kernel sources a measure to stop you from using proprietary modules. I've never seen another distro do this. For the stock Ubuntu kernels, this package exists. For custom kernels (I downloaded a -mm kernel and then patched in the Ubuntu diff. I normally always patch in that distro's patches to the kernel in case they are important). If I never patched in the Ubuntu patches, the ATI driver would
I'd say openSUSE should be a serious contender.
* Novell will sell support.
* Novell is preinstalled on major OEM computers. * openSUSE will start an installer in Windows, resize your Windows partition automatically, and set-up a dual boot environment.
* Out of the box, it will install ntfs-3g and offer write access to your Windows partitions from within Linux.
* The installer is simple, yet powerful. The installer is fast.
* Package management in openSUSE 11 is now as good as in Ubuntu. Previous to openSUSE 11, it was slow and problematic.
* Ubuntu has larger package repositories, but openSUSE puts out solid KDE 3, KDE 4 and Gnome desktops. People have argued it is the best Gnome desktop out there, the best KDE 4 desktop, and the best KDE 4 desktop.
* Novell/openSUSE's branch of OpenOffice.org is much nicer than upstream OOo as well. Hardware support is pretty damned good as well.
* Yast is arguably the best tool for system management out there, and makes Linux accessible to the masses.
As a disclaimer, I certainly don't support Novell's patent deal, which still ticks me off. That being said, I really like what openSUSE delivers.
If I were going to push/market one distro to the masses, it would be openSUSE.
It is harder to change your OS than your browser. That being said, Linux could still benefit from marketing, as Ubuntu has demonstrated. The problem is that Linux isn't one big, unified community.
I'd like to see something like GetKde.org as a grassroots campaign. KDE apps can be installed on Windows and Mac OS X as a gateway, to allow people to try out OSS before making a big commitment. Pushing a desktop like KDE could be a unified project supported by several major distro communities. Many distros easily install side-by-side with Windows for risk-free dual-booting.
I think most consumers don't even realize that alternatives exist. Linux won't suddenly gain massive market share, but with some marketing it would grow none the less.