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Slashdot Announces Idle Section

For the last few months we've been beta testing Idle.slashdot.org, our offtopic humor/meme/viral video/pictures section. Like many of you, we spend most of our waking hours on-line seeking stuff to entertain our brains, but most replicators out there pick so much content that it's incredibly boring filtering through the mediocrity to find the funny. We intend to fill our idle section with a very small collection of the very best the net has to offer, making it the most efficient way to waste your time. Some of this content will make it back to the Slashdot mainpage, but much of it will be new content that we wouldn't dare soil the precious Slashdot mainpage with. We are also using it as a test bed for new functionality on Slashdot — currently the page is a reasonably dynamic/interactive experience with various voting controls and filtering options. Finally you will see occasional original content, starting with a recurring special feature today where Samzenpus shares some real tech support email from some of our most intelligent readers. We hope you will enjoy wasting a slice of your day with us, and in addition will submit content through the usual channels, but put it into the 'Idle' section so we know not to take it seriously. Now go about your day — it's mid August, so I'm sure everything you do is urgent, exciting, and oh-so-interesting.

281 comments

  1. Can you feel the excitement? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We intend to fill our idle section with a very small collection of the very best the net has to offer, making it the most efficient way to waste your time.

    Translation: Porn, stupidity, and bugzappers.

    I tried visiting idle.slashdot.org once. I was outright embarassed by the content. So much so that I changed my sig in response to Slashdot's, "Never visit idle.slashdot.org" teaser. My reply? "Good idea."

    I hate to say this, but Slashdot does attract a lot of intelligent people. They're not always the ones who post, but they frequent the site anyway. Attempting to "entertain" the more intelligent types with the same sort of filth/LCD* they see on their television is a counterproductive goal. Slashdot and Slashdot-Idle cannot coexist.

    Sorry guys, but it's time for you to go back to marketing school. Using brand recognition for a product that does not represent the brand will only devalue the brand. You may see short term gains on the new product, but in the end you will see long-term losses across the board. If you want to do something like Slashdot-Idle, try making a new site rather than lumping it in with Slashdot.

    * If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with...

    P.S. What's this fascination with making a Digg-like site, anyway? 95% of what's on Digg sucks. Stop trying to be like them.

    P.P.S. Idiocracy was not a documentary. Stop trying to bring it about.

    1. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed, the last thing we want is for the cesspool of Digg-reading, MySpace dwelling, Pokemon-playing LuSerS!!!!!1 to spill over into where the grownups are trying to have intelligent discussions.

      If you think Slashdot is infantile now, just wait until idle goes live! It would be eternal September all over again!

    2. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Lovedumplingx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I feel the same way. If I want content like that I'll read fark or digg.

      Besides...the only times that I've been to idle they've had stories that were already featured on other websites.

    3. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're missing the point, this is great news. If idle becomes a "real" section, we'll finally be able to block it from the front page.

    4. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Otter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agreed, the last thing we want is for the cesspool of Digg-reading, MySpace dwelling, Pokemon-playing LuSerS!!!!!1 to spill over into where the grownups are trying to have intelligent discussions.

      You forgot "Wikipedia-linking".

    5. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot "Wikipedia-linking".

      [citation needed]

    6. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Daimanta · · Score: 5, Funny
      --
      Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
    7. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      You're missing the great thing about idle.

      Idle gives the idiots a place to go, the rest of us can on the mainpage.

      I'm sure slashdot doesn't want to lose the idiots -- they are the ones that pay the bills. So instead, they are given a place to drool and mouthbreathe, while the rest of us can have the "enlightened" discussion we are accustomed to.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    8. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      idle is the cancer that is killing /.!

    9. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wikipedia? Bah, I do my research using Uncyclopedia!

      --
      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
    10. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed, the last thing we want is for the cesspool of Digg-reading, MySpace dwelling, Pokemon-playing LuSerS!!!!!1 to spill over into where the grownups are trying to have intelligent discussions.

      But this is already happening, people mess with every post theses days.

      I hope Idle somehow 'cure' the offtopic/meme/first post/* attitudes that we constantly see here, by moving the Trolls away to a place that fits them best.

      --
      Am I eval()? - http://www.monst3r.com.br
    11. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      while the rest of us can have the "enlightened" discussion we are accustomed to.

      You mean such as:

      • vi vs. emacs
      • Firefox vs. Opera
      • Gnome vs. KDE
      • Kirk vs. Picard

      Yes, I see what you mean.

      --
      We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
    12. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by lavardo · · Score: 1

      I totally agree... "...Slashdot does attract a lot of intelligent people." I'm intelligent, too. :)

    13. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Shivetya · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you obviously must not real politics here, this place is just as lacking in intelligence as Digg ever was.

      The bleed over under the guise of science sometimes astounds me. I guess they knew no one would read some of it if labeled politics so they slip in elsewhere when they can.

      As long as idle is off by default I think we are safe. It should be off for anonymous coward surfing as well.

      --
      * Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
    14. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In The Simpsons, Lisa made a graph showing a correlation to Intelligence and unhappiness (the episode where home had a crayon removed from his brain). I think it is because if you made a reputation of being so smart you are afraid to have a good time with the low brow stuff, thus insulting it fighting it, stating it does this and that all negative. I use to be like too. Then I just learned to lighten up a bit and take it for what it is worth. Humor or just non-productive fun... Not everything needs a deep meaning or a political motive, sometimes just enjoy it, at face value. As if the people who make this if they are as dumb as you say they lack the intelligence to give deep meaning to it anyways so you are getting yourself in a fuss about nothing.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    15. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by timster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, I think we've all pretty much settled on the correct answers to those (vi, Firefox, KDE, and Picard of course).

      --
      I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
    16. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Farkdot - enough said

    17. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

      * If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with...

      Liquid crystal display, naturally. Now what about the posts with titties in them? It was made quite clear that there would be titty.

      --
      Kwisatz Haderach
      Sell the spice to CHOAM
      This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
    18. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vi, Firefox, Gnome, Picard

    19. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Attempting to "entertain" the more intelligent types with the same sort of filth/LCD* they see on their television is a counterproductive goal.

      It might be that this trend is inevitable. Look at the devolution of the Discovery Channel*, what are they discovering, how to use grinders and say FbeepK. I think that I figured out why this is though. If the average IQ is 100 and IQ distributions fit on a bell curve, where does the bulk of the population lie? Now where does the bulk of the money lie (I don't believe that IQ and income are highly correlated)? Now if you're into making money (aren't we all) then what is the logical thing to do (disregarding principles)?

      I come to Slashdot to learn from the many fellow geek who are a lot smarter/more experienced than I. I know that I go for the funny a lot, but I try not to post unless I think that it is really good (not much beats a good laugh).

      *Excepting Myth Busters.

      If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card.

      I don't know what this is in this context, so maybe I should. LCD to me = liquid crystal display.

      --
      Look where all this talking got us, baby.
    20. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your naivete is adorable.

      The idle section won't reduce the trolling on "regular" Slashdot even a little bit. It will just give the trolls yet another place to go. If the introduction of the "Politics" section wasn't sufficient to isolate the trolls then nothing will be.

    21. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what this is in this context, so maybe I should. LCD to me = liquid crystal display.

      LCD == Lowest Common Denominator

    22. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 1

      You forgot the 'I hope' on my phrase. The Idle is alive, all we can do is hope for the best and complain loudly if it fails.

      --
      Am I eval()? - http://www.monst3r.com.br
    23. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's vi, Firefox, Gnome, Kirk you mouth-breathing idiot. Go back to idle.slashdot.org!

    24. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm only here because I am banned from /b/.

    25. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nano:lynx:console:sisko

    26. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by courseofhumanevents · · Score: 1

      The problem is that it usually isn't actually entertaining.

    27. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by genner · · Score: 4, Funny

      while the rest of us can have the "enlightened" discussion we are accustomed to.

      You mean such as:

      • vi vs. emacs
      • Firefox vs. Opera
      • Gnome vs. KDE
      • Kirk vs. Picard

      Yes, I see what you mean.

      No all of those issues have been settled once and for all.
      The correct answers are:

      Pico
      Lynx
      FluxBox
      Janeway

      Now if you'll excuse me I have to go settle this little scuffle in the middle east.

    28. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      "Sorry guys, but it's time for you to go back to marketing school. Using brand recognition for a product that does not represent the brand will only devalue the brand."

      The problem is not just marketing, it's the desire for constant growth of ones 'customer base' (i.e. advertisers). In a fragmentd market in which your 'customers' (in this case us) needs are radically different. This is where profit gives way to mediocrity, we've seen this before where a site tries to "mainstream itself" to appeal to everyone in the eternal quest for growth, it is my humble opinion that some businesses should simply stick to what the are good at, and if costs keep rising, they have to creatively find ways to cut costs rather then jepordizing losing the business. Or simply just close the business and move on if more profit is what is being sought.

      Because when profit gives way to mediocrity the business then ends up pleasing nobody "jack of all trades master of none" effect, because different groups of people and seek different things.

    29. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      farggdot

    30. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Atriqus · · Score: 1

      Translation:
      Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! I don't like dumb people going where I go!

      Also, I'm required to confiscate your geek certification since you used market-speak as a reason a geek shouldn't do what they want.

      --
      Hey, look! It's Bono's brother.
    31. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Gewalt · · Score: 1

      You're missing the point, this is great news. If idle becomes a "real" section, we'll finally be able to block it from the front page.

      Bah! I blew all my mod points yesterday! +1 informative in spirit.

      --
      Modding Trolls +1 inciteful since 1999
    32. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with...

      Geek ultimatum fail.

    33. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I stand by my right to be an idiot anywhere I damn well please.

      Or do I mean I stand bye my write to be an idiot anywere I dam well please?

      --
      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
    34. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As long as idle is off by default I think we are safe.

      Actually, that was the question I wanted to ask. When Idle was still in 'beta' (nice how it never said beta anywhere on it), it was impossible to block it from the front page. Is it now possible? If not, then this would be my biggest feature request, slipping in just above getting support for non-ASCII characters back to where it was six months ago.

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    35. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, maybe we should use this as a personality profile:

      I'm a 'vi, Firefox, Gnome, Picard' what are you?

      Screw the colour system or the INFP crap!

    36. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by MagdJTK · · Score: 1

      Aren't we the fun one! Now if you're going to play the "/. is for geniuses" card, there's a few things we need to get straight.

      I was outright embarassed by the content.

      At first I thought you'd added the italics to emphasise someone else's spelling error. How wrong I was...

      Attempting to "entertain" the more intelligent types with the same sort of filth/LCD* they see on their television is a counterproductive goal.

      I'm assuming that by LCD you mean lowest common denominator. Crappy things appeal to the LCD, they aren't the LCD themselves... Oh and counter-productive is hyphenated.

      Of course, you'll accuse me of being a pedant, but I'm not the one attacking a website for adding a section to which I will not be forced to go.

    37. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Jairun · · Score: 1

      Ahem... Vi Firefox XFCE and Solo

    38. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      agreed, let's just throw out everybody with a userid over 10000... Oops, there I go :)

      Seriously though, I really think a log(uid) modifier would be really neat, is there a place where you can suggest mods to /code ?

    39. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      market-speak

      You keep using that phrase. I do not think it synergies the way you think it optimizes overhead and reduces complexity to create a more stable and reliable team-work environment.

    40. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by kestasjk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I feel the same way. If I want content like that I'll read fark or digg.

      I think that's the reason for it. I'm fine with idle though; no-one is putting a gun to my head and forcing me to read it.

      --
      // MD_Update(&m,buf,j);
    41. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's already available, after a fashion, under preferences:

      "New User Modifier (assign modifiers to recently created accounts)"

    42. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by RKBA · · Score: 1
      "* If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with..."

      Somehow I doubt it refers to the FTP command "lcd" for "local change directory."

      lcd [directory]
      Change the working directory on the local machine. If no directory is specified, the user's home directory is used.

    43. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the _FUCK_ did you manage to write that list and not include Linux vs. Windows?

    44. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Digg does suck. Reddit is much better. I used to like TotalFark until I realized Reddit was more entertaining (and free to boot). I used to check Slashdot every hour in 1999, today I go days or weeks between hitting it because the tech articles suck these days.

    45. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Aerotwelve · · Score: 1

      It could be a dating service! vi looking for an emacs (nano highly discouraged), must enjoy long walks on the beach.

    46. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I want content like that I'll read fark or digg.

      That's what's kind of weird about this. 4chan -> digg -> fark -> idle. With extra moderation and whitewashing along every step. By the time it gets to the end, I feel like it's something my grandma sent me.

    47. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by GoodNicksAreTaken · · Score: 1

      * If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with...

      Can we move the geek elitism from the main /. to idle.slashdot also?

    48. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Is it really *that* hard to *not* click on a link???

      --
      "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

      - Charles Darwin
    49. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Flyers2391 · · Score: 0

      * If you don't know what LCD stands for in this context, you should turn in your geek card. Assuming you had one to begin with...

      LISP Code Directory?

    50. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by isorox · · Score: 1

      It's vi, Firefox, Gnome, Kirk you mouth-breathing idiot. Go back to idle.slashdot.org!

      vim, Firefox, neither, and SISKO

    51. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by jagdish · · Score: 1

      I take the advice about not visiting idle seriously. Idle must be removed from this site. A slashdot divided against itself cannot stand.

    52. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Shivetya · · Score: 1

      Well sometimes the stupidity is evident just in the subject, let alone the synopsis while displayed on the first page.

      damage done.

      --
      * Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
    53. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I resent Pokemon-players being compared to Digg-readers.

    54. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Imagine an average Digg reader attempting to breed a Slakoth with the correct IVs to create an unstoppable Slaking, as well as training an Alakazaam for Skill Swap?

      Bah.

    55. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by dotgain · · Score: 1

      emacs, emacs, emacs, Picard

    56. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by gaspyy · · Score: 1

      Look at the devolution of the Discovery Channel

      I thought I was the only one who saw this.
      Ten years ago Discovery was truly awesome. I loved some of their history stuff, the science was pretty solid too.

      Myth Busters was good in the beginning but the science/entertainment ratio is dropping. I used to like Scrapheap Challenge too.

      Now most shows are the same dreaded "reality" kind, with nothing you can actually learn...

      In case you're wondering, I still remember how MTV was in 1989.

    57. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3 out of 4, not bad for a vi user :)

    58. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      Notepad, Internet Explorer, Windows ME, Janeway... okay, shoot me now.

    59. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      No, thanks; I'm not walking into a room and telling people I'm a VOWK.

    60. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by rootooftheworld · · Score: 1
      You've got it both wrong, it's: notepad++, opera, Ion and Slartybartfast you imbasill!

      BTW, I run Plan 9

      --
      I know full well that tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack
    61. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Ummm, I have a MySpace page and Pokemon Diamond was one of the most enjoyable games I've played. Sorry if my non-Slashdot hobbies aren't as purely geeky as you might have hoped.

      Now excuse me while I take my son out skateboarding, then later tonight to a tractor pull.

      --
      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    62. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by carlcmc · · Score: 1

      Without trying to brag, I consider myself to be very intelligent, well educated, in place in a professional high salaried position and yet I still enjoy some mindless ball-hits-crotch humor...

    63. Re:Can you feel the excitement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed. 4chan already exists; /. Doesn't to do this...

  2. Does this mean... by k_187 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That the CSS on idle.slashdot.org won't suck ass and/or be ass ugly? I'd really prefer that no ass be involved in the layout or design of the page.

    --
    11 was a racehorse
    12 was 12
    1111 Race
    12112
    1. Re:Does this mean... by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      The thing I like about idle is that the score filter is on the top, allowing the comments to span the entire horizontal width of the page.

    2. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean this is the actual layout and isn't some rendering glitch I am seeing?

    3. Re:Does this mean... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      That the CSS on idle.slashdot.org won't suck ass and/or be ass ugly? I'd really prefer that no ass be involved in the layout or design of the page.

      Most stories you can just remove the *.slashdot.org and get the default CSS.
      Not so with idle.slashdot.org

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    4. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That the CSS on idle.slashdot.org won't suck ass and/or be ass ugly? I'd really prefer that no ass be involved in the layout or design of the page.

      Stop giving them ideas. They'll probably want to propagate the asstastic look of idle on to the rest of the pages.

    5. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most stories you can just remove the *.slashdot.org and get the default CSS.
      Not so with idle.slashdot.org

      I used to do that a lot (e.g. on it). However, a while ago, they changed things so that (for example) http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/14/1512250 redirects to news.slashdot.org. I just checked with this story (see previous link) and it's still doing it.

    6. Re:Does this mean... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Click the little triangle on the top-right of the score filter, it moves from the left to the top (it seems to stay put). Now I just need to get rid of the "Sections" bar.

    7. Re:Does this mean... by svank · · Score: 0

      It's on the top, and insists on staying at the top of the window when you scroll down. This hides a few rows of text when scrolling via Page Up/Down. On the rest of /., the filter can be anchored to the top of the comment section. That is the perfect behavior.

    8. Re:Does this mean... by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      Didn't know that, but we still have the left sidebar on non idle Slashdot. Thanks though.

    9. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless it's big, black ass.

  3. Slashdot Users Announce It Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, you've already rammed it down our throat enough for us to hate it, now we can hate it even more.

    It's not funny, it's not clever, and it's not even a good waste of time. It is pointless.

    1. Re:Slashdot Users Announce It Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It really is Slashdot's version of FarkTV.

      FAIL

  4. Random amusement by DeadDecoy · · Score: 0

    So will this turn out like 4chan /b/?
    I demand moar pr0n source ftw! Rick-roll = sage!

  5. I see the tag beat me too it by TheCycoONE · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is there any difference between this new service and... Digg? (or XKCD because the best the net has to offer is already posted there.)

  6. I have my worries, and my hopes. by pwnies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have my worries about this, and I have no doubt that we all do here on /.. What I definitely do not want to see is /. becoming another digg/reddit/delicious. On the other hand, hopefully slashdot will be able to mold the content more so that it doesn't just become a "HERE'S ANOTHER FUNNY CAPTION PIC FROM 4CHAN" fest. Don't get me wrong, those things have their place and are sometimes humorous, but it doesn't fit the niche that is /.. Remember, the slashdot tagline is "News for Nerds" - not "Funny Image of the Day for Nerds".

    With any luck, it will hopefully become something more along the lines of Daily Wtf, which still provides insight while remaining humorous. And in any case, congrats on rolling out a new feature for us /. staff.

    1. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by pwnies · · Score: 2, Informative

      sorry... typed an extra '/' before that link, http://thedailywtf.com/Default.aspx

    2. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by genner · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have my worries about this, and I have no doubt that we all do here on /.. What I definitely do not want to see is /. becoming another digg/reddit/delicious. On the other hand, hopefully slashdot will be able to mold the content more so that it doesn't just become a "HERE'S ANOTHER FUNNY CAPTION PIC FROM 4CHAN" fest. Don't get me wrong, those things have their place and are sometimes humorous, but it doesn't fit the niche that is /.. Remember, the slashdot tagline is "News for Nerds" - not "Funny Image of the Day for Nerds". With any luck, it will hopefully become something more along the lines of Daily Wtf, which still provides insight while remaining humorous. And in any case, congrats on rolling out a new feature for us /. staff.

      Agreed.....so mudkips,,,you like em?

    3. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      hopefully slashdot will be able to mold the content

      I agree. The more disuse, the better! Bring on the mold!

    4. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 1
      I have my worries about this, and I have no doubt that we all do here on /.. What I definitely do not want to see is /. becoming another digg/reddit/delicious.

      Slashdot is AWESOME! Whhoott!!!

      Where's my +500?!?

    5. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by Smivs · · Score: 1

      Let's hope that as Idle will be generated by slashdotters the content will be of a better quality than that of Digg etc. Slashdotters are intelligent, thinking beings and could never be accused of being purile or infantile, could they?

    6. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a digg with meta-moderation, karma may really work.

      Just today, on same story I saw a guy go down -6 levels and disappeared just for asking a very valid question/concern on Digg. Same guy's question is +4 interesting on Slashdot right now.

      Why wouldn't be "light" edition of Slashdot for pointless surfing and pointless discussions? Of course it should be seperate and nothing from "there" should go into main page of slashdot.org.

      For the non IT topics like "politics", try pasting same comment which got "insightful rating" on politics.slashdot.org to Digg, make sure it is somehow not very politically correct opinion and have fun watching it getting "dugg down" and disappear eventually.
       

    7. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

      Sir. You have mis-spelled "liek".

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    8. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by genner · · Score: 1

      Sir. You have mis-spelled "liek".

      No I deliberately used the correct spelling. This isn't 4chan.

    9. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by eln · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't be "light" edition of Slashdot for pointless surfing and pointless discussions?

      We already have that, it's called "slashdot.org".

    10. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

      And apparently you have no sense of humour. Perfect for Slashdot.

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    11. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by genner · · Score: 1

      And apparently you have no sense of humour. Perfect for Slashdot.

      And your sarcasm detector is broken.
      Oh the ironey.

    12. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 of my friends died because you spelled irony wrong

    13. Re:I have my worries, and my hopes. by mako1138 · · Score: 1

      He did it for the lulz.

  7. Goatse by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not enough people post goatse or rick-rolling links in Slashdot, so we needed to dedicate an entire new area to it?

    I look forward to all the lemon party and meat spin misleading links.

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  8. Natural order by iXiXi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Order -> chaos /. -> #$%&*

    1. Re:Natural order by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      Order -> chaos /. -> #$%&*

      I hate examples written in Perl.

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    2. Re:Natural order by pwnies · · Score: 1

      So everything turns into a Perl script eventually?

    3. Re:Natural order by JamesTRexx · · Score: 4, Funny

      Careful, not everyone who has Tourette syndrome is a Perl programmer.

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    4. Re:Natural order by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      So everything turns into a Perl script eventually?

      It's perl all the way down.

    5. Re:Natural order by wootest · · Score: 1

      However, everyone who's a Perl programmer...

  9. This can only mean one thing by SlySpy007 · · Score: 1

    The Slahsdot-subsidized return of autopr0n.net is only days away. Thank the gods!

  10. a Slashdot article aboutSlashdot by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    will Slashdot get slashdotted?

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    1. Re:a Slashdot article aboutSlashdot by AutopsyReport · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, but we'll see the dupe in a day or so.

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  11. I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by JimXugle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I want LOLcats, I go to Digg.
    If I want Pseudo-Politics, I go to Reddit.
    If I want to know about the latest announced Apple product, I go to appleinsider.
    If I want to know about the worlds largest TV, I go to The Register.

    If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

    Please don't ruin this for me.

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    1. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by bhamlin · · Score: 1, Funny

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      Oh, man. That's quality entertainment right there. Looks like you're new here. Welcome aboard. :D

    2. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Megaweapon · · Score: 1

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      Gold, Jerry! Gold! /been here since before user accounts

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    3. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      In soviet russia, intellectual discussion comes to you!
       
      // But yeah, good luck with your cunning plan. Let us know when you've thought it all the way through.
      /// Slashes for slashdot!

    4. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Matt+Perry · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      Boy, are you in the wrong place. You were supposed to take a left turn at Albuquerque.

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    5. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Nimey · · Score: 1

      SNERK! You come to *Slashdot* for intelligent discussion? Do you only see the +5 comments? -6 anything modded Funny?

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    6. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      Mod parent up funny.

    7. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, ha, ha!

      Oh wait, you were serious?

      Oh, wow, how unfortunate.

    8. Re:I come to Slashdot because it *isn't* Digg. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      If I want actual Intellectual articles with in-depth discussions, I come to slashdot.

      How long have you been smoking crack? Has it caused other impairments?

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  12. Hmm by Reapman · · Score: 1

    And judging by my test here of the idle page, not something I'll be trying until we "upgrade" to IE7 here at work finally :/

    Damn I hate IE6...

    1. Re:Hmm by duplicate-nickname · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't worry, it doesn't work under IE7 either.

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    2. Re:Hmm by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      It is either designed that way (?) or severely broken on Opera 9.52 too.

    3. Re:Hmm by isorox · · Score: 1

      And judging by my test here of the idle page, not something I'll be trying until we "upgrade" to IE7 here at work finally :/

      Damn I hate IE6...

      There's another firm?

      My division has blocked IE7 (let alone firefox) from the entire company because some internal sites don't work in IE7.

      I wouldn't mind as much, but
      1) The sites don't work in IE6
      2) The management don't want to fix the sites
      3) Due to the unique way we're funded, we shouldn't be a bunch of microsoft shills, let alone shills from 8 years ago

  13. Crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The idle section looks horrible. Fix plz.

  14. Anyone else... by Seakip18 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    thinking CmdrTaco has hit some hard times? I mean, let us look back of the past few months...

    1. No funny April Fool's this year.
    2. Various off hand comments about stuff. (Java, Olympics, etc.)
    3. Just up above he's kinda of an ass. I mean, some people are probably working pretty hard. I know End of Fiscal year for some people is going on.
    4. I dunno, maybe getting tired of being squeezed by other sites like reddit or digg or other stuff?

    Anyone know more or want to spread light on the matter?

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    1. Re:Anyone else... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      1. No funny April Fool's this year.

      I'm confused. When did Slashdot do funny April Fools?

    2. Re:Anyone else... by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Anyone know more or want to spread light on the matter?

      This is the internet. You don't ever ask for something using the word "spread", because someone will invariably link goatse.

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    3. Re:Anyone else... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Informative

      When did Slashdot do funny April Fools?

      OMG Ponies!!!

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    4. Re:Anyone else... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      That wasn't funny. That was terrifying.

      Oh, and thanks for reburning that shade of pink into my retinas. I just managed to recover, you jerk!

    5. Re:Anyone else... by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 1

      This is the internet. Someone will invariably link goatse.

      T, FTFY. HAND.

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    6. Re:Anyone else... by wisty · · Score: 1

      Maybe the 8 month child? I hear kids are higher maintenance maintenance than Gentoo.

    7. Re:Anyone else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, so now telling the truth is a troll. You are a Fark moderator.

    8. Re:Anyone else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This must be the type of intellectual discussion that some commenters above said they came here for.

    9. Re:Anyone else... by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      Someone, please hand this guy a prism.

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    10. Re:Anyone else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No funny April Fool's this year.

      That's because every single year, every story was full of losers bitching about slashdot doing something special for april fool's.

      I say losers not because they didn't think it was funny. Everyone has a right to their own tastes. They were losers because they hated it so much, but still couldn't find something else to do for ONE FUCKING DAY so they kept refreshing slashdot and taking the time to post about how much it sucked.

    11. Re:Anyone else... by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      once they emerge there is no decompiling them.

    12. Re:Anyone else... by isorox · · Score: 1

      thinking CmdrTaco has hit some hard times? I mean, let us look back of the past few months...

      1. No funny April Fool's this year.
      2. Various off hand comments about stuff. (Java, Olympics, etc.)
      3. Just up above he's kinda of an ass. I mean, some people are probably working pretty hard. I know End of Fiscal year for some people is going on.
      4. I dunno, maybe getting tired of being squeezed by other sites like reddit or digg or other stuff?

      Anyone know more or want to spread light on the matter?

      There was a (not-so)-recent rant on how he hated alexia and other "usage" tracking adverts. I guess its everyone's fault for not subscribing

      On the other hand, slashdot used to be a hobby, effectively a blog with decent comments. Does it really need 10 full time members of staff?

    13. Re:Anyone else... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      He needs to ask his SO to marry him again in the poll. That got LOADS of pagehits. Could scatter some ads for dating sites, mail-order brides, etc. around the page.

    14. Re:Anyone else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was disturbing.... *faints*

  15. Why not just call it Fark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not trying to be over critical with this, but doesn't /. already have a nice niche? There are already quite a few sites out there dedicated to "offtopic humor/meme/viral video/pictures" etc. What are we trying to accomplish here?

    (or how about FarkTV?)

  16. Go for it by Smivs · · Score: 1

    I've dipped into 'Idle' a few times now and it's a great way to waste your time....my wife already moans about the ammount of time I spend 'do-ing' /. and it ain't going to get any better. Great idea!

    1. Re:Go for it by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      So what do you guys think? Is this:

      A) A plant

      B) A poor attempt at humor

      C) A truly ironic post

      You can begin "do-ing" your responses... now.

    2. Re:Go for it by Smivs · · Score: 1

      I'm not a plant. I'm not a mineral either so I must be an animal. My sense of humour (we put a 'u' in it here in England) is impeccable so my comment must be ironic. Also, here in England we slip the odd hyphen in where it's not needed when we're doing (do-ing?) anything related to /. It's something to do with being eccentric I think.

  17. Out of beta? by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You mean the google version of out of beta or the microsoft's one?

    For being beta it added several stories to the main (in production?) slashdot site in the past months. This will mean that it will really add a lot (daily) from now on?

  18. What a bad idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /. just lost some serious cool points here...

    "why to be like other people, there's already so many of them"

  19. The interface sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The interface sucks. I was hoping more slashdot-like, but with the ability to post pics and video, not that DHTML garbage.

  20. Uh by Compuser · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Horrible site. Poorly organized, old content, just terrible.
    BTW, Fark already has a geek section. Just link to that.

  21. Is this news? by randyest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this "News for Nerds" or "Stuff that matters?" Is there anyone here that hasn't seen the "Idle.slashdot.org is a total waste of your time, never go there" teaser atop the page? Besides the fact that it's embarrassing to have such tripe "social link sharing" site associated with slashdot, idle honestly adds zero advantages or new things over digg/reddit/etc.

    In my humble opinion it's a terrible idea to dilute the slashdot brand at a time when it's already pretty weak.

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    1. Re:Is this news? by VanessaE · · Score: 1

      Personally, I have no problem with the presence of idle.* here - I actually drop by there on rare occasion...only to have my eyes burned out by that page's *horrible* motif. Oh, and for G*d sakes, fix the javascript so the discussion control bar can actually dock into the top of the comments section like it does everywhere else. Putting it at the top of the page makes scrolling the page terribly sluggish (yeah I know, that's Firefox's problem, but it's still a bug in Slashdot's code too).

  22. Bring back Geeks In Space by poity · · Score: 1

    I know we can't get the same people of way back then together in the same place again, but GIS would have a Slashdot personality in any case. Any noob blog out there can rehash articles, repost links that have been posted thousands of times before, and wait for gnaa's frosty piss to start off the comments. Becoming yet another fark clone will not make people want to stay; producing Slashdot-specific content for Slashdot will.

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  23. Great... by CaptainPatent · · Score: 2, Funny

    The site that has been the number 1 most efficient waster of my time at work just got more efficient?!?!?

    I can smell the pink slip from here!

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    Well, back to rejecting software patent applications.
  24. Take Idle out of the mobile browser version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    idle section stories show up on the mobile browser version of the homepage. Since I don't bother to log in on my mobile, I'm assaulted by this idiotic crap that I can easily avoid when using a normal browser. Please consider removing it.

  25. Viral? by Gat0r30y · · Score: 3, Funny

    I believe that this isn't viral anymore, it is now bacterial -like the clap.

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  26. Please don't by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I frequently read slashdot.org/palm from my blackberry and this idle crap keeps appearing there. It's just horrible, not to mention that very little of the content in idle is mobile friendly. The only comments are things like "is this Digg now?" Please, don't do this. Create a whole new site if you feel like this is really what you want to do with your time, but don't associate with slashdot.

    I never would have thought it possible to make slashdot appear any less credible, but you may have just found a way.

    Don't do it. We've all had grand ideas that got abandoned and I know it feels bad, but you should cut your losses now before it's too late. Really. Stop.

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    -- Don't Tase me, bro!

    1. Re:Please don't by Spatial · · Score: 1

      In summary: Don't idle me, bro!

    2. Re:Please don't by ddoz · · Score: 1

      You know, nothing is stopping you from starting your own website to compete for intellectual discussions. The more the better.

    3. Re:Please don't by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 1

      Nothing is stopping me from competing against google either, but I won't get any users...

      Despite its flaws, slashdot does actually have some decent discussions. I protest because I care about this place. They have made some improvements over the years. I can't recall the last time I saw 3 dupes on the same day, but years ago it was pretty common. Some things never change, some changes are for the better, and then there's idle...

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      -- Don't Tase me, bro!

  27. Where is the tech support email? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    special feature today where Samzenpus shares some real tech support email from some of our most intelligent readers

    Where do we find this? I sought and did not find.

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    1. Re:Where is the tech support email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find it either. I guess Taco meant later today. Or he just made it up. Who knows?

  28. Will. Never. Go. There. by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    Again .. god dammit .. why did I just waste time and bandwidth??

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  29. Critical thinking... by flashnode · · Score: 1

    ...can get really old. I know I need to turn of my brain once in a while with junk. Reality TV, fast food, and beers have their place in the life of an intellectual. Besides why do you think technology has spread so quickly? Scientific research or low brow videos of finger-smelling monkeys?

    1. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reality TV [has its] place in the life of an intellectual.

      Let me see. What's the best way to phrase this?

      No, no it doesn't.

    2. Re:Critical thinking... by exley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Reality TV [has its] place in the life of an intellectual.

      Let me see. What's the best way to phrase this?

      No, no it doesn't.

      Wow, I'm sorry that not everyone's tastes line up with yours. I didn't know that to be considered an intellectual everyone has to fall into some narrow regime of likes and dislikes. And this is coming from someone who personally hates reality TV and the like.

      Anyone who thinks this narrowly can't be taken seriously as the intellectual that they think they are. To sum up, get off your high horse.

    3. Re:Critical thinking... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Really? I, on the other hand, think that there is a lot you can learn, in addition to being entertained by things like Deadliest Catch, or Ice Road Truckers. But hey, you know better, Batman.

    4. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You'll have to forgive me if you find my stance offensive, but reality TV epitomizes stupidity and Lowest Common Denominator thinking.

      Fast Food? Not even sure why it was included. It's fine.
      Beer? Fine.
      Crude Humor? Fine on occasion.
      Sitcoms? Sometimes incredibly stupid, but mostly fine.
      Interest in fishing, NASCAR, sports, or other non-nerdy pursuit? Perfectly fine.

      Reality TV? No.

      Reality TV is a trap of the most dangerous and intellectually lethal kind. It encourages people to track the personal lives of others to a point that makes gossiping look tame. Yet like gossiping, it can become a trap that lures people in and encourages them to waste their time, judgment, and critical thinking. In effect, it causes you to stoop to the level of those who would participate in the activities of having their lives bared for all to see. (Which usually means they're the type to appeal to sex and voyeurism.)

      The end result is that your thinking becomes stuck in a quagmire of complex personal matters that are not of your own. Which has negative effects on your thinking, priorities, and thus day to day life.

      You may think ill of me all that you want. But "reality television" as it is defined today is NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "entertainment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux intellectuals who would rather put on a show of intelligence than actually make an effort to *be* intelligent.

    5. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Deadliest Catch, or Ice Road Truckers

      Deadliest Catch and Ice Road Truckers are not what I think of when someone says "Reality Television". If anything, those shows ride the reality wave for a chance to do more documentary-style television. No, I think shows like Big Brother, Wife Swap, Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire, The Bachelor, Simple Life, and other such crapola. (And yes, I had to look those up some of those names.)

      Other shows like American Idol are often incorrectly lumped in as "Reality Shows" even though they're straightforward talent competitions. (Though I do have to admit, I stopped watch AI in the third season when they attempted to inject "reality" aspects into the show.)

      A few of the reality shows have managed to do some good (e.g. Extreme Makeover occasionally helped people out who really were in need), but they often botched just as many attempts to help as they succeeded. Which arguably is not helpful in the long run.

    6. Re:Critical thinking... by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      The end result is that your thinking becomes stuck in a quagmire of complex personal matters that are not of your own.

      As an aside to your point, in most cases they are not the personal matters of the people on the show, either. Very often all the "drama" in the featured players' lives is manufactured in the editing booth.

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    7. Re:Critical thinking... by exley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You'll have to forgive me if you find my stance offensive...

      I don't find your stance personally offensive, I just find it incredibly arrogant.

      As I mentioned once, and I will reiterate here, I am not a reality TV fan. But to generalize like you have, to say that an intelligent person can't have mindless escapes like that, is just ridiculous. To generalize like that (which we are all guilty of at one time or another, of course) shows a complete lack of critical thought. Like that t-shirt sold by The Onion says, stereotypes are a real time saver, aren't they?

      You also talk about the negative effect that reality TV has on a person's priorities... I find that statement interesting from someone who is so up in arms over this issue and wasting all this time bitching about it on Slashdot.

      If you don't like reality TV, you don't have to watch it. If you dont like idle.slashdot.org, then you don't have to go to that section. If you don't like that Slashdot has idle, then you don't have to come here.

      /faux intellectualism

    8. Re:Critical thinking... by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Deadliest Catch and Ice Road Truckers are not what I think of when someone says "Reality Television".

      If only the world conformed to your definitions, your thoughts on the matter would make a difference.

    9. Re:Critical thinking... by savi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Which usually means they're the type to appeal to sex and voyeurism."

      Ah, yes. Sex. Voyeurism. The true enemies of intellectuals everywhere.

      Oh yeah, except for all those intellectuals who were delightfully perverted. (Most of them).

      Anyhoo, I'm off to look at Kafka's porn collection.

    10. Re:Critical thinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Reality TV doesn't mean "britney spears handycam show", it also includes the shows on Powerblock which I find incredibly informative, because I like wrenching on vehicles (but I suppose that makes me one of those lowest common denominators you're talking about, right? working with my hands? A real intellectual pays a dealership 75 bucks to change his oil).

      It also includes just about every cooking show ever, and every documentary you've ever seen.

      Get over yourself.

      You are not an intellectual.

      I doubt you've ever even met one before.

      The stuff you decry really isn't reality at all. All that "real life of washed up celebrity" shit is scripted and fake. An intellectual would have caught on.

    11. Re:Critical thinking... by el_gordo101 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps Big Brother, Survivor, and the like do not, but I would argue that gems like Dirty Jobs, Deadliest Catch, and Mythbusters certainly do.

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    12. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      To generalize like that (which we are all guilty of at one time or another, of course) shows a complete lack of critical thought.

      If you were looking for a more specific answer, ask a more specific question. General issues raised will result in general answers given. One cannot apply further critical thinking to a matter for which further data for consideration has not been presented.

      In this particular case, I can say that watching Reality TV in general is definitely NOT a sign of intelligence. If you were to bring up specific examples, however, you'd get more specific answers. Some which would seemingly disagree with the general statement. Such is the way of things.

      You also talk about the negative effect that reality TV has on a person's priorities... I find that statement interesting from someone who is so up in arms over this issue and wasting all this time bitching about it on Slashdot.

      You seem to be suggesting that Slashdot is a priority for me. Which I can assure you is far from the truth. In fact, it has always been more of a release for me. I mean, where else can you have entire conversations in hex code* or about RC4 encryption?

      I enjoy my day life and I enjoy my work. But sometimes it's nice to just plain geek out. :-P

      (* Sorry for the lack of a link, but the hex code conversation is a bit hard to find in Google.)

    13. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Oh, but the world does! What's the first thing you see when you look up Ice Road Truckers on Wikipedia?

      Ice Road Truckers is an American documentary-style reality television series...

      (Emphasis added.) Now consider for a moment. Had Ice Road Truckers been produced before the advent of "reality television", would it still be called "documentary-style reality television" or would it simply have been referred to as a "documentary series"?

      I would even go as far as to say that the "reality" aspect is played up on modern documentaries in order to appeal to those who *cough* "enjoy" *hurrk* Reality Television. Which aligns perfectly with the statement I made above.

      Think about it.

    14. Re:Critical thinking... by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      reality tv is to supplant the lives that people had with the lives they could have had...

    15. Re:Critical thinking... by Kozz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You may think ill of me all that you want. But "reality television" as it is defined today is NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "entertainment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux intellectuals who would rather put on a show of intelligence than actually make an effort to *be* intelligent.

      Hey, dude. I read lots of your posts, and frequently agree with what you've said. But I think the quote above comes across quite elitist. I know where you're coming from, but it may be that there exist some reality TV (henceforth RTV) shows out there that you would probably even like if you gave them a chance.

      I'm speaking for myself, of course, but I imagine there are others reading this thread who follow a few RTV shows but fear stating such, expecting to get blasted as "faux intellectuals".

      I've regularly watched (with my wife) Amazing Race, Survivor, America's Got Talent, Rock Star (cancelled now, I guess?), various Food Network competition RTV programs, Wife Swap, Super Nanny, Biggest Loser and others. That being said, I'd never watch Big Brother, Fear [Gross Out] Factor, and many others that are perfect tens on the "stupid" scale. I realize in writing it down, that this list mostly illustrates that I watch too damned much TV (although RTV is far from the only fare I watch).

      And you know what? I do think I'm intelligent, and I do think that many of them are reasonable entertainment. I'm also capable of keeping my perspective. I find many of them to be good fun, but I don't get so emotionally invested as you seem to suggest. So my friend, AKAImBatman, I think you're generalizing a bit much about the viewers of these kinds of programs from a rather high horse.

      Respectfully in disagreement,

      Kozz

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      I only post comments when someone on the internet is wrong.
    16. Re:Critical thinking... by idlemind · · Score: 1

      You may think ill of me all that you want. But "reality television" as it is defined today is NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "entertainment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux intellectuals who would rather put on a show of intelligence than actually make an effort to *be* intelligent.

      I am highly suspect of anyone who claims to be an intellectual authority such as yourself.

    17. Re:Critical thinking... by crotherm · · Score: 1

      But couldn't documentaries be considered "reality TV"? Also Biographies and such? As for the general crap that the big networks produce, I'll have to agree with you that it is crap. In fact, I could argue that it actually hurts society by feeding our brains such simplistic and many times sadistic images that we forget how to digest complex thoughts.

      Reality TV also does a fine job of distracting us from more important issues. The fact that more people vote in American Idle than for President. Of course the choices we have for Pres is partly to blame... :p

      But "Real TV" like documentaries, bios, and such tend to be good food for our brains and is also much more real than reality TV.

      --
      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK
    18. Re:Critical thinking... by natedubbya · · Score: 1

      I think you're misusing the word intelligent. All of your arguments against reality TV are based on issues of time usage, morals, and social interactions (morals again). Intelligence has little to do with these things. Intelligent people can be sexual deviants. Intelligent people can be extremely lazy (join grad school to find out). Intelligent people can be gossips (join academia to find out). None of these are in conflict, although you seem to think so.

      Your real stance seems to be that reality tv represents moral decay in society. Or perhaps you're coming from an economic wastefulness standpoint. I don't necessarily disagree. But either way, it has very little to do with intelligence.

    19. Re:Critical thinking... by KeithJM · · Score: 1

      Sitcoms? Sometimes incredibly stupid, but mostly fine.

      Reality TV is a trap of the most dangerous and intellectually lethal kind.

      So you can still be an intellectual if you watch "According to Jim," but "The Amazing Race" is right out.

      Other examples -- my mother-in-law is a home economics teacher (it's called Family and Consumer Sciences now, by the way). She sews as a hobby, and enjoys watching Project Runway (a reality show about people designing clothes and competing for a clothing contract). Is it really anti-intellectual to watch people competing at your hobby? Even if you take notes while you watch?

      What about something like Monster Garage, or Mythbusters? How do you define Reality TV anyway? Does Jeopardy count?

    20. Re:Critical thinking... by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      I agree with the parent. However, like everything else, there are exceptions.

      Dirty Jobs.
      Deadliest Catch.
      American Chopper.

      The above types of shows are not in the same league as the pop idol / get married / dance contest / etc crud (IMHO) that I think we're talking about here. Rather, the shows are somewhat educational - at least interesting because they are about people in the real world doing real work.

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    21. Re:Critical thinking... by Poppler · · Score: 1

      Lumping in beer with reality TV and fast food hurts my head. I avoid the later two like the plague. A good ale, on the other hand...

      'Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy'.

      --
      What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose, some say your toes, but I think it's your mind. -Zappa
    22. Re:Critical thinking... by Mean+Variance · · Score: 1

      A few of the reality shows have managed to do some good (e.g. Extreme Makeover occasionally helped people out who really were in need), but they often botched just as many attempts to help as they succeeded. Which arguably is not helpful in the long run.

      Teach a man to fish or give a man a fish: Foreclosed.

    23. Re:Critical thinking... by Hoknor · · Score: 1

      The advent of "reality television" as an identified genre is different from the advent of it as a style of production. You are using a tautology here, of course before we identified a style of production as the "reality television" style we did not label things as belonging to it. Think about it.

    24. Re:Critical thinking... by laddiebuck · · Score: 1

      Why not stop proscribing the behaviours of "intellectuals" and actually gauge them by their obvious, titular trait: their intellect. Everything else is irrelevant (and it's illiberal of you to suggest otherwise).

    25. Re:Critical thinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't totally diss on reality tv ever since that Big Brother lesbian episode

    26. Re:Critical thinking... by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      I've regularly watched (with my wife) Amazing Race, Survivor, America's Got Talent, Rock Star (cancelled now, I guess?), various Food Network competition RTV programs, Wife Swap, Super Nanny, Biggest Loser and others.

      I have to chime in here... There is more than one kind of TV watching. My wife and I also watch a lot of the shows mentioned above, but it isn't passive watching. As we watch we discuss the social dynamics, strategies, and general behaviour of the participants. While reality TV is kindof a sort of social porn, there is more than one way of watching it.

      Amazing race is very interesting, especially me not being American. Having traveled a bit myself it's intriguing to see how different people deal with unfamiliar situations out of their comfort zone.

      Even though a lot of reality TV is scripted these days, the fact that the participants aren't generally actors does allow you to learn at least something about human interaction if you make an effort to pay attention. I can't say it's that much worse than wasting time on pure fiction...

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      .: Max Romantschuk :: http://max.romantschuk.fi/
    27. Re:Critical thinking... by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      You'll have to forgive me if you find my stance offensive, but sitcoms epitomize stupidity and Lowest Common Denominator thinking.

      Fast Food? Not even sure why it was included. It's fine.
      Beer? Fine.
      Crude Humor? Fine on occasion.
      Reality TV? Sometimes incredibly stupid, but mostly fine.
      Interest in fishing, NASCAR, sports, or other non-nerdy pursuit? Perfectly fine.

      Sitcoms? No.

      Sitcoms are a trap of the most dangerous and intellectually lethal kind. They encourage people to track the personal lives of fictional people to a point that makes gossiping look tame. Yet like gossiping, it can become a trap that lures people in and encourages them to waste their time, judgment, and critical thinking. In effect, it causes you to stoop to the level of those who would participate in the activities of having their lives bared for all to see. (Which usually means they're the type to appeal to false sexual tension and cookie-cutter humour.)

      The end result is that your thinking becomes stuck in a quagmire of complex personal matters that are not of your own. Which has negative effects on your thinking, priorities, and thus day to day life.

      You may think ill of me all that you want. But "sitcoms" as it is defined today are NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "entertainment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux intellectuals who would rather put on a show of intelligence than actually make an effort to *be* intelligent.

    28. Re:Critical thinking... by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      You'll have to forgive me if you find my stance offensive, but fast food epitomizes stupidity and Lowest Common Denominator thinking.

      Reality TV? Not even sure why it was included. It's fine.
      Beer? Fine.
      Crude Humor? Fine on occasion.
      Sitcoms? Sometimes incredibly stupid, but mostly fine.
      Interest in fishing, NASCAR, sports, or other non-nerdy pursuit? Perfectly fine.

      Fast food? No.

      Fast food is a trap of the most dangerous and intellectually lethal kind. It encourages people to consume unhealthy food and to emulate the worst cooking habits. Yet like bad cooking, it can become a trap that lures people in and encourages them to become fat, lazy and unhealthy. In effect, it causes you to stoop to the level of those who are too lazy to boil an egg. (Which usually means they're the type to appeal to fatty sex and chubby voyeurism.)

      The end result is that your stomach becomes stuck in a quagmire of terrible "food" products that are not edible. Which has negative effects on your thinking, priorities, and thus day to day life.

      You may think ill of me all that you want. But "fast food" as it is defined today is NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "nourishment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux chefs who would rather put on a show of culinary talent than actually make an effort to *be* culinarily talented.

    29. Re:Critical thinking... by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      You'll have to forgive me if you find my stance offensive, but beer consumption epitomizes stupidity and Lowest Common Denominator thinking.

      Fast Food? Not even sure why it was included. It's fine.
      Reality TV? Fine.
      Crude Humor? Fine on occasion.
      Sitcoms? Sometimes incredibly stupid, but mostly fine.
      Interest in fishing, NASCAR, sports, or other non-nerdy pursuit? Perfectly fine.

      Beer? No.

      Beer is a trap of the most dangerous and intellectually lethal kind. It encourages people to destroy their livers and mistakenly sleep with really ugly people. Yet like blah blah blah...

      I could continue if you like, but I'm sure you'll find my criticism of that elitist nonsense to be an indication of my faux intelligence.

      I dislike reality TV as much as the next person, but I'm not sure someone who posts on /. can point fingers at others for time wasting, poor judgement and poor critical thinking.

    30. Re:Critical thinking... by Negatyfus · · Score: 1

      You know, reading this, I'd rather be not intelligent instead opting to just be happy and not overthink stuff like this all the time. Relax, dude.

    31. Re:Critical thinking... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      -1 Offtopic? Apparently some folks don't like well thought out answers. Too bad. Stupid troll mods.

      As usual, mod abuse will not be tolerated. Here is the post again:

      --

      To generalize like that (which we are all guilty of at one time or another, of course) shows a complete lack of critical thought.

      If you were looking for a more specific answer, ask a more specific question. General issues raised will result in general answers given. One cannot apply further critical thinking to a matter for which further data for consideration has not been presented.

      In this particular case, I can say that watching Reality TV in general is definitely NOT a sign of intelligence. If you were to bring up specific examples, however, you'd get more specific answers. Some which would seemingly disagree with the general statement. Such is the way of things.

      You also talk about the negative effect that reality TV has on a person's priorities... I find that statement interesting from someone who is so up in arms over this issue and wasting all this time bitching about it on Slashdot.

      You seem to be suggesting that Slashdot is a priority for me. Which I can assure you is far from the truth. In fact, it has always been more of a release for me. I mean, where else can you have entire conversations in hex code* or about RC4 encryption?

      I enjoy my day life and I enjoy my work. But sometimes it's nice to just plain geek out. :-P

      (* Sorry for the lack of a link, but the hex code conversation is a bit hard to find in Google.)

    32. Re:Critical thinking... by rootooftheworld · · Score: 1

      Now that was real, classical piece of /., kudos!

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      I know full well that tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack
    33. Re:Critical thinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The stuff you decry really isn't reality at all. All that "real life of washed up celebrity" shit is scripted and fake.

      "Reality TV" as a term is difficult to abstract but a little explanation is helpful (my attempt at definition is that it is television geared toward drawing of the audience into the personal lives of the players--e.g., if MythBusters featured Jamie's frustration at his wife's failed attempts to qualify for a boat loan (turns out she's a pre-Farnsworthian robot)).

      Documentaries? "Reality TV" does not refer to them (otherwise the term would likely have existed long before Survivor and others of its ilk were spawned). MythBusters and other shows about science, history, and things are not "Reality TV" by any common definition. "Reality TV" has always referred to shows like Survivor, Fear Factor, The Mole, etc. I'm hesitant to refer to "American Idol" and "Star Search" in the list because the focus there is on artistic performance, and not on interpersonal relationships, "challenges," and drama.

      If you ask someone what genre MythBusters is, they'll say documentary or science or something. If you ask them about Fear Factor, they'll say Reality TV.

      Common usage of a term is sufficient to delineate its meaning.

      Of course this is mere hypothesis on my part, but had I the funds, I'd survey a broad spectrum of people and I'm confident I'd be right.

    34. Re:Critical thinking... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      But "reality television" as it is defined today is NOT something I think any intelligent person should see as "entertainment". And I am highly suspect of anyone who claims otherwise. If anything, they are likely to be faux intellectuals who would rather put on a show of intelligence than actually make an effort to *be* intelligent.

      It isn't enough that I've been working through the math textbooks my old college professor recommended to me just for the fun of it, or that I've released Free Software database conversion utilities based off a side project at work? You know, sometimes I just want to kick back and do something mindless - even stupid - to give my poor noggin a break. It could be that you're exactly wrong: some of us would rather do intelligent things than make an effort to convince others of our intelligence.

      --
      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  30. Typo in the summary by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    we spend most of hour waking ours on-line

    Fixed it for you!

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    You just got troll'd!
    1. Re:Typo in the summary by docdude316 · · Score: 1

      we spend most of hour waking ours on-line

      Fixed it for you!

      It would be better if you actually fixed it instead of just making it worse.

      It should read: "we spend most of our waking hours on-line"

    2. Re:Typo in the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we spend most of hour waking ours on-line

      Fixed it for you!

      Care to check that correction again?

    3. Re:Typo in the summary by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Whooosh..

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      You just got troll'd!
    4. Re:Typo in the summary by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Whooosh...

      The worst is that I initially misread your post as tongue-in-cheek, I thought it read "It should read: "we spend most of our wanking hours on-line"". Dunno if that would have made sense anyways.

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      You just got troll'd!
    5. Re:Typo in the summary by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      we spend most of our wanking hours on-line

      Fixed it for you! Huh? Eye yam knew hear? Eye yews a spill chucker!

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      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
    6. Re:Typo in the summary by docdude316 · · Score: 1

      I think that makes total sense. I don't know about you but i spend most of my wanking hours on-line. Too much information?

    7. Re:Typo in the summary by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Muahaha beat you to it by a minute!

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      You just got troll'd!
  31. Shadowbans by starling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can we have pillow-biting nancy moderators and shadowbans and a filter to censor naughty words too, like they do on Fark?

  32. I live in the Southern Hemisphere... by pablo.cl · · Score: 0, Troll
    ... you, insensitive clod!

    Now go about your day -- it's mid August, so I'm sure everything you do is urgent, exciting, and oh-so-interesting.

    1. Re:I live in the Southern Hemisphere... by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      Actualy I believe he was talking to you southerners, since up here in the northern hemisphere it's too dmaned hot for us to be urgent, excited, or interested in anything except staying cool.

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      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
  33. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Superfluous.

    Nothing new to see here.

    Move along...

  34. Shadowbanning by starling · · Score: 1

    In case anyone doesn't know, shadowbanning is where you can post and see your comments as normal, but nobody else sees them. Basically, you're screaming into the void - and if you're a donor you're paying for the privilege.

    In other words, it's a rather childish type of fraud.

    Yes I am shadowbanned on Fark, for the crime of replying to a comment which mentioned a rival site. I hope Slashdot can avoid that crap.

  35. But... but....! by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 1

    Before, it told me that idle.slashdot.org was a total waste of my time and that I should never go there!

    /headasplode

  36. Cool, thanks! by snarfies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks for making Idle official and full-time!

    Because now I can adjust my preferences so that I never see this unfunny garbage again. If I want "teh funnay," I'll visit 4chan, k thx.

    1. Re:Cool, thanks! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Seconded. A few weeks ago I was looking for the 'make this crap go away' box when I accidentally clicked on a link to idle. I can't help thinking though that it would have been much less effort to simply not implement it. Unless it's a means of encouraging people to subscribe. Actually, that seems pretty compelling, now I think about it - if you don't subscribe you have to see kdawson and idle stories on the front page, if you do you can block them.

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      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    2. Re:Cool, thanks! by optimus2861 · · Score: 1

      Now can those of us who subscribe to the RSS feed get a version without the idle stories? I really don't want them polluting the feed because there's no way to distinguish them from any other stories.

    3. Re:Cool, thanks! by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Thirded. I was also looking for the "never show me this rubbish again" checkbox for idle and couldn't find it. My first thought on seeing this announcement was that hopefully now that it's official* they'll have provided one at last.

      * Now it's official? What, the front page stories from idle *weren't* official?

      Unless it's a means of encouraging people to subscribe. Actually, that seems pretty compelling, now I think about it - if you don't subscribe you have to see kdawson and idle stories on the front page, if you do you can block them.

      If it comes to that I'm a developer; Java mainly, but I know enough JavaScript to use Greasemonkey to solve it that way.

  37. Conspiracy Theory! by dysfunct · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a suspicion that idle might actually be a good thing to happen to slashdot. Here's my conspiracy theory:

    IIRC Taco has full control over the stories and editing of slashdot, but marketing, advertisement and other things are mandated by corporate overlords. I somehow suspect that a bunch of trained monkeys in the marketing department created a lot of pressure to make Slashdot more Digg-alike and in a moment of pure genius, Taco created idle - the best parody of Digg the world has ever seen. It's colorful and flashy to please the marketing department, contains the worst stories and oldest mémes out there to convince them this isn't going to work out, all the while preserving the rest of Slashdot and consuming the least money and effort possible.

    I mean just look at it and the way it's announced. It's as if the Slashdot team wants us to hate it.

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    :/- spoon(_).
    1. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by jamie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, it's every other new feature of Slashdot that we hate. This one we actually think is fun.

    2. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by CmdrTaco · · Score: 5, Informative

      You have no idea how accurate this is.

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      Pants are still optional, but recommended for you.
    3. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Hemos · · Score: 5, Funny

      I suspect you to be an agent of the Psychic Friends network.

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      Yeah, I'm that guy.
    4. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by scc · · Score: 5, Funny

      We have an Idle section now?

    5. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

      Please enjoy the shiny and click on our ads. /jedihandwave

    6. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by RendonWI · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has adds? Oh yah, adblock made me forgot about things like that.

    7. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by PieSquared · · Score: 1

      Does it still count as a conspiracy theory if the target confirms it? I'd assume he was joking except that they haven't fixed the CSS in the months since it was first complained about.

      Ah well, either way I can finally ignore idle... at least so far. (And *that* counts as a real conspiracy theory)

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      Does a line appended to your comment give your post meaning in and of itself, or only in relation to those without?
    8. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by AEC216 · · Score: 1

      Awesome. (My bosses' don't know what I do either but they sure as hell know what's right come decision time.)

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      May I please have my frontal lobotomy if I bring back the ashtrays?
    9. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by houghi · · Score: 1

      You must be so proud having both ID 1 AND 2 reply to you. Wow. I am jealous.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    10. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Jason+R · · Score: 1

      In all the time that I've been reading Slashdot, I don't think I've ever seen a single comment bring out replies from CmdrTaco and Hemos... You should win a prize or something if you can get 3 single digit UID's responding..

    11. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by dysfunct · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Which is why it's a conspiracy theory and not something I'll ever know the truth of. Anyway, I'm actually looking forward to the promised tech support emails. If you continue with stuff like that I might actually start to like Idle, whether or not this fits your evil plans ;-)

      Now please excuse me, I have to write a user style sheet to wrap idle.slashdot.org with a tinfoil background image.

      --
      :/- spoon(_).
    12. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Hey Taco,

      Since this seems to be the story for bitching, what happened with support for non-ASCII characters sometime in the past six months? Slashdot used to support a load of 8-bit chars, and handle a few unicode ones correctly, but now entering anything not in 7-bit ASCII gives me an A with an accent. Even the trademark symbol, which used to be turned into (TM) does this. Some examples:

      Trademark: â
      Pound Symbol: £
      Euro Symbol: â

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    13. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by dysfunct · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm a subscriber you insensitive clo... ooh, those just might be the ads I'm looking for!

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      :/- spoon(_).
    14. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he actually earns a living by being more economy-efficient in fixing your windows problems than the official microsoft helpdesk.

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    15. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      u suck

    16. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      entering anything not in 7-bit ASCII gives me an A with an accent.

      When I first read your comment I didn't care. After all, what difference do "TM" signs make? But then realisation dawned. Look at this:

      A MÃÃse once bit my sister...

      This is a travesty! Somebody fix it NOW.

    17. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by asg1 · · Score: 1

      That is what I thought also... Look at it this way people, you NEVER have to see Idle stuff if you don't want to. As long as they keep Idle away from the main Slashdot as much as possible there should be no ill effects. This is just Taco's way of appeasing the corporate folk.

    18. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Taco's just hoping that Eric shows up and posts now that Wheaton seems to have gone away.

    19. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just figured out another slashdot trivia. The user whose uid is 1 digit.. The only one that can nullifies all uid jokes.

    20. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Very diplomatic; I note that that's neither a "yes you're right" or a "no you're wrong".

    21. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...
      I mean just look at it and the way it's announced. It's as if the Slashdot team wants us to hate it.

      Indeed.

      The tag line.. from the do-not-read-the-idle-section dept

      Plastered across the top of my main page..

      idle.slashdot.org is a waste of time. Do not go there.

      And just read the announcement..

      Maybe just maybe, they are not joking.

    22. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Right. It's kind of like, "you have no idea which socks I wore today." While true, it doesn't really convey a lot of information.

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      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
    23. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by ballwall · · Score: 1

      This thread (and how you worked it with the other slashdot employees) single-handedly convinced me to subscribe.

      Keep up the good work, Taco.

    24. Re:Conspiracy Theory! by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      It is impressive. but possibly UIDs 4 or 570 would be more impressive: 4 because the CowboyNeil option is *always* best, and user 570 is, well, special.

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      "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."- Winston Churchill
  38. Content selection for this audience by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

    I don't mind modding once in a while and the policies seem to work generally and programmers should have a better idea of how to implement a content filtering method that might be useful for everybody. I for one welcome our new content filtered overlords. I think that there is sufficient intellect connected to slashdot to become a filter for those who would like to understand or begin in programming. I know bad code when I see it and why not let others look at life through rows(colored) = glasses; ps -A;kill -SIGKILL #*;?
    For each comment, where content != goat .....

  39. Tag this section ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... redundant.

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  40. stop complaining by trybywrench · · Score: 1

    jeez you guys act like the idle section just slapped you in the face even though it's been up for months.

    i took a look at it a long time ago, it's not for me so i don't click on the link. Where's the problem? Maybe some of the less mature posters will head over there instead of cluttering up the main stories.

    stop your whining

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    I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
  41. Old Funnies by SilentTristero · · Score: 1

    How about updating the Funnies list instead? Many of the ones there don't even update anymore (Under Power, Totalitarian Burger), and a few (Helen) the links don't even work anymore because the comic is dead. And a bunch more have devolved into sitcoms and soap operas. Fix the bugs first, then add new features!

  42. What are you doing? by christurkel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To quote John Scalzi: "What the fuck is wrong with you?"

    I mean, seriously, was there some demand for this I missed? Some void the /. editors thought needed to be filled. "Oh our current content isn't engaging enough, let's pile on some crap!"

    I agree with other posters. Start a new site for this garbage; it has no place at /.

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  43. Hope you've got a big ramp... by porkmusket · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's a hell of a shark you're trying to jump.

  44. well, la by AmishElvis · · Score: 1

    dee dah

    1. Re:well, la by AmishElvis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oops. I just took a look at the idle section and you're right. I'm very sorry. Jokes about poo would be a step up.

    2. Re:well, la by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      That's one of the most unintentionally funny posts I've read. Kudos! :-)

  45. RSS Feed?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there going to be an RSS feed so I know when to efficiently waste my time?

  46. Mediocre content on an unusable page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, I wasn't impressed by the content, but honestly I didn't *see* very much of the content.
    1) The page is really, really slow. Click-the-scrollbar-and-wait kinda' slow. Is it just me? I'm on a 2.66GHz dual-core but hey, I'm running Vista -- maybe the page is allergic.
    2) The page layout is dumb. You see a teaser for a "story", click the teaser and all you get is a picture: one small picture on its very own page, with a couple words of caption. So you click Back, click another teaser .... another small picture on its own page. YAWN. OK, done now.

  47. off-topic - moderation by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, the article is about /. and so is my post.. but has anyone else noticed a difference in how mod points are awarded? I check /. this morning at work and had 15 moderator points. Anyone else see this? The FAQ still says you only get 5 points and they expire after 3 days.

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    1. Re:off-topic - moderation by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 1

      I started getting 5 points at a time, then 10 points, and now I get 15 points about once per week, give or take a slow week here or there. It also seems to happen if two or more of my comments are modded up in the same time frame. I won't claim to undertand the mod point system.

      I actually preferred the old style of 5 points better. I could easily use them all in one discussion that I had a background in, or I could use them on 5 stories if I felt like it. Having 15 mod points forces me to choose between modding or posting on virtually every discussion I read as long as I have the points. It's not often that I use all of the mod points, either.

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    2. Re:off-topic - moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get them in spells : I just went a couple months with no points; I thought somebody had set the evil bit on my account. Then, I had 15, 10 and now 15 again this week. Before that last dry spell I got 30 or so a week for about a month. I think it changed around January.

    3. Re:off-topic - moderation by shish · · Score: 1

      Having 15 mod points forces me to choose between modding or posting on virtually every discussion I read as long as I have the points.

      If having the choice is such a burden, you can always pretend you don't have them; as a bonus, when you get into an "I wish I had mod points" moment, you might actually have some :-)

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  48. Stop sign vid = NOT funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This contrived shite represents EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT FUNNY on the internet.

    fail.slashdot.org

  49. Igor, the creature refuses to obbey by gilbertopb · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is a great tech reference to me, thanks to all good open eyes people submiting interesting stuff. Idle area can be fun, as an coffe area, but kept faraway from main Slashdot. When I want some geeks and interesting ideas on what people can do in their lives I visit: http://www.geekologie.com/

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  50. Well by Target+Practice · · Score: 1

    I've hated slashdot since the day I came here. That's why I keep coming back.

    Honestly, though, there have been trolls and firstposters for as long as I've come here, and it's just what you deal with.

    Thank the gods /. ditched that Katz journalist, though. If you think idle is bad, you haven't experienced the great mindless stupor that once haunted these halls. ... or have I just had his postings blocked this whole time? He is gone, right?

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  51. Missing option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sisko, you insensitive clod!

    Good to see everyone agrees on v1 and Firefox though.

  52. hmm by astrokid · · Score: 1

    Same content as Digg. Idle Slashdot CSS. Lame.

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  53. digg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it the Slashdot's version of digg and 4chan?

  54. Isn't that what DIGG is for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't that what DIGG is for?

  55. not "waking" by Eil · · Score: 1

    Like many of you, we spend most of our waking hours on-line seeking stuff to entertain our brains

    You misspelled "wanking" there. ;)

  56. Slashdot is swirling the bowl. by kwabbles · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember when this place was "News for nerds, stuff that matters"?

    Slashdot was once an enlightening and stimulating place for people from the IT industry / Science Industry / etc to come and read the latest RELEVANT news, and then discuss it - the discussions were intelligent and insightful, and many times posts came from people who were known and respected in the field being discussed.

    Stories that made the front page catered to such minds. Many of the articles would even warrant me spending an hour or so researching the topic and gaining insight into something new and exciting. Slashdot used to be "brain food".

    This seems to be the fate of such places on the Internet. Usenet... Slashdot... (more examples that I couldn't think of)... it seems like as more idiots connect themselves to the Internet, the more idiotic the Internet becomes. Places once frequented by intellectuals seeking an intellectual forum become watered down with stupidity and insipidity - and are overtaken by those seeking a cheap laugh and simple entertainment.

    Slashdot has been going downhill for a couple of years now, and seems to be gaining momentum. It makes me sad. There are a billion and one places to go for idle, mindless discussion and "college humor". There are a million and one places to go for discussion of "common tech news". Once this place has completely caved into mediocrity, there won't be anywhere else to go. Slashdot will no longer be unique. Slashdot might as well merge with digg or 4chan.

    Someone oughtta buy this place out and put it back how it used to be, pink-slip all of the new editors and FUD-mongers and politiks, and have idle.slashdot.org redirect to www.bored.com.

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  57. Chavs in a Tank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you put some chavs in a tank for 6-8 weeks and watch them 24/7, you might get to see them mate. Usually, you have to pay to see that sort of thing on TV.

  58. Can you announce things that are well known? by Zencyde · · Score: 1

    Wait.. Slashdot is announcing a well-known section? What the Hell is the point in that? If you've been paying any attention you'd have noticed it.. and I don't remember signing up for a beta.

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  59. Please Create Alternative RSS Feeds by NextGen · · Score: 1

    I would rather not read the "Idle" section in my main news feed from this site. Any chance you all might consider making a different main feed which doesn't include the Idle articles?

  60. idle-atry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new /b/tard overlords.

  61. Yay for low UIDs at new site! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Create a whole new site if you feel like this is really what you want to do with your time, but don't associate with slashdot.

    Yes, if only so we can get low UIDs.

  62. At first I thought by LM741N · · Score: 1

    that this was a Python language article. But then it was obfuscated, so I knew it must be about Perl.

  63. Re:UID memes over now. by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Yep.

    Low UID memes have now officially Idled Slashdot.

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  64. Re:adds by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    I think you mean Myspace.

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  65. Can we not just have Backslash back? by moderators_are_w*nke · · Score: 1

    Or is that dead now?

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  66. Congratulations .. s2pid by dword · · Score: 1

    Great work, /.
    Congrats on your new section which has been officially called "the idiots' section." You realize now that all the real idiots will stay away from it.
    Nice marketing, too, by mixing up the words "nerds" and "idiots" under the same brand.

  67. Thank you, Yahoo! Pipes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    block all items that match:
    item.slash:section = idle

  68. finally by eht · · Score: 1

    now i can hide the stupid section

  69. No thanks by richtaur · · Score: 1

    I'm with what looks like the majority of Slashdotters here in that I will be ignoring the Idle posts (as I have been during your testing period). When I want to waste time, I know where to go. When I want geek news, I also know where to go... here, except that now there's slightly more crap I have to filter out. Bleh.

  70. Return to campus by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 1

    I know End of Fiscal year for some people is going on.

    I think he might've forgotten that a lot of college-going people are getting prepared to _return to college._ I've got to move, go through TA orientations, present my internship presentation, and I'm finding out if my grant came through or not.

  71. Here, just link to this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably the biggest joke yet. Well, in my experience:

    http://support.microsoft.com/

  72. Spell check.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's spelled faggot. And for your information, ./ covers a lot more than just Apple.

  73. There are plenty of such a sites by dvh.tosomja · · Score: 0

    snotr.com, child of mininova.org do the same for me couple of months, however, I feel lack of shark with lasers there

  74. Next Slashdot Poll by 22_9_3_11_25 · · Score: 1

    I had never looked at idle before but clicked on it and checked it out. I was very disappointed that it is so bad. I love /. and have from the first day I started reading this site. I think the next /. Poll should ask the readers if it should be kept, moved somewhere else completely or taken down. The results would be something to bring to the next marketing meeting when the talking heads go on and on about re-branding to target gen y and beyond. I understand that /. is not a democracy and needs to generate a proft but alienating your loyal readership is not a good way to go about that.

  75. And what's this idKe about? by objekt · · Score: 1

    And why is it linked on the main page?

    http://i33.tinypic.com/2nb4z1w.jpg

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    1. Re:And what's this idKe about? by objekt · · Score: 1

      ah, it's fixed. good!

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  76. Secret Alternate Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The left panel 'Idle' link takes me to idke.slashdot.org Its just like regular Slashdot, but I presume this is the version we are supposed to read when we aren't working. Or is it aliased to slashdot.org because the assumption is we are all idlers at heart?

  77. Bad link by wembley+fraggle · · Score: 1

    It's worth noting that the sidebear link to "idle.slashdot.org" actually points to "idke.slashdot.org", which (being in error) actually just redirects to the toplevel site.

    1. Re:Bad link by intothemiddle · · Score: 0

      Yup... can't even type idle properly. Maybe they were just being too, IDK, idle?