The UN and the Geneva Convention however have no qualms with claymore mines, even homebrew ones made in the field, with any sharp substance you can put in them. Those aren't torture, but tasers are.
Re:Release Candidate or Beta --what's the diff?
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I rarely respond to ACs, and here I did it twice.
However, frankly if you're looking at Kubuntu/Ubuntu, then KDE isn't really for you. Kubuntu is a poor implementation of KDE, and Ubuntu really isn't a very good distro to begin with. It is a popular buzz word, but if you want freedom, flexibility, choice, and a great desktop, then Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
If you want an extremely simple installer, a simple desktop, then Ubuntu is the way to go, and KDE really isn't.
I won't argue one is better than the other. Pick what you want.
The Plasma project was to revolutionize the entire desktop, and thusly many people have credited the composite effects in Kwin as part of the Plasma project/goal/vision, even if it doesn't use the plasma libraries. Likewise, Oxygen started as an icon project, but the widget theme is named Oxygen, because it is part of the same vision/goal/project.
You need to learn to be down with buzzwords.
Re:Release Candidate or Beta --what's the diff?
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In the grand scheme of a project the size of KDE, the panel isn't a major component. To the end user, it seems to be very important because you see it so predominantly. There is a difference in perception here.
Note I'm not really arguing with you, just trying to demonstrate the other side's perspective. Personally, I think the desktop interface is crucial to your experience using KDE, and for all the hype, Plasma didn't even seem to have much of a vision or design until very late in the game, and where as other major technologies and libraries in KDE 4 were well established, Plasma code appeared very late in the game.
For all the articles on the visual style, and that is what people will focus on, I fear most people will miss the jump to QT 4, SVG rendering, Solid, Phonon, Decibel, DBus, Oxygen, Sonnet, Okular, Strigi, Dolphin, Nepomuk, etc.
Amarok got a major redesign, and from what I read, Koffice got a major rewrite and redesign as well.
So I echo somewhat what the KDE devs are saying right now, that KDE 4.1 will probably start blowing people away. Right now, I think there is a sexy car covered in an ugly tarp here.
1. There are always a number of people with "state-of-the-art-addiction" who must have the hot new gadget.
2. There are always people looking to profit from the above people, who jump on these product launches to then turn around and sell the product on Ebay.
Beyond that I wouldn't read too much into this just yet. The Kindle may be a success, or a flop. All we know is that it a newly hyped gadget that sold out at launch, like most new hot gadgets.
Re:Why do I want a giant clock or battery widget
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Many KDE apps have moved away from that naming scheme actually.
Re:Release Candidate or Beta --what's the diff?
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It is being called a RC because KDE is much, much more than a "kicker" panel. There are many apps in the KDE project. The core underlying technologies, libraries, and most of the apps are quite stable. Plasma and the desktop are still evolving DAILY.
However, people see an ugly looking taskbar and assume the overall quality is really poor.
Sadly, Plasma is not yet the revolution it is promised to be, but it does allow data-engines and a good scripting frame work to easily create Plasmaoids, it brought composite effects to Kwin natively, and it brought SVG rendering to KDE's desktop. So Plasma does have some immediate benefit.
God forbid you have the option to configure your box how you like it.
Some of the menus could be better restructured to make better sense, and in KDE 4 some of them have. But I never get people complaining about having too many many options.
Please mod parent down. Every benchmark and testcase shows the same apps run faster, and use less memory on KDE than Gnome, and the default desktop on KDE runs faster and uses less memory on KDE than Gnome.
That may change in KDE 4, even though QT 4 is supposed to use less memory and run faster, but between the new kdelibs and Plasma, you have enough new features that is taking up more system resources than KDE 3. This is also still an early RC of the first release of the KDE 4 cycle. Given that KDE 3 got more efficient over time, I can hope KDE 4 will also get more efficient over time.
Re:do not stop progress by not wanting 'bloat'...
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For all the "bloat" KDE uses less memory and runs faster than Gnome, and we're in the 21st century, so I do expect a fairly fully-featured desktop.
Xfce and others are great for older hardware, but even older computers can run KDE fairly well.
Akroyd has been talking that plot forever, and I imagine that might lend itself well to a GTA-type sandbox game, or like Spiderman, running around New York city and having all kinds of mayhem.
We're a multiplatform shop (AIX, Solaris, Linux, Windows, though mainly Windows) but during my peer review for this latest SysAdmin job, one of the guys said if he had his way, we'd never have anything *Nix related on the network, especially Linux which he claimed was programmed "by teenage turds".
He insisted that Microsoft has never done anything wrong, and that all problems on Microsoft platforms are caused by idiot third-party programs making crappy drivers or applications. Pretty much the only reason we use any *Nix products, is because that was how the system was designed by vendors we did contracts with. I keep trying to extoll the virtues, and I don't think anyone is listening. In many circles, open source seems to be a dirty word.
I've read the exact verbiage of the deal, as well as Novell's FAQ about the deal.
It simply says that Novell paid to license patents, and the ambiguity is notable. It doesn't have to clearly say that Linux violates Microsoft patents, Microsoft wins with even just a shadow of doubt here. If they can make corporations wary, then it will be enough to keep them from using Linux.
I work in a moderately sized IT department for a local company these days, and most of the IT staff here say things like "it is against the law to use any GPL programs for commercial use", etc. Even the suggestion or rumor is enough to scare people away permanently often enough.
I find it odd that I was modded Flamebait, when the Kubuntu devs themselves admit the Kubuntu isn't that great right now. It doesn't integrate existing Ubuntu features into KDE well (it is often effectively two releases behind) and the lead designer said on his blog the other day that right now it is just Ubuntu with KDE thrown on it. They plan in the future to design with KDE in mind and improve the distro, but right now Kubuntu is not a good implementation of KDE. It just isn't.
How many companies have been terrified to look at Linux now that Microsoft is screaming that Linux users are violating patents? Didn't SCO use the same tactics, and everyone berated them for it? SCO's stolen code they wouldn't point out is the same as the unlisted patents that Microsoft feels are violated.
Novell paid to license patents, and in doing so, they cast a shadow of guilt on all Linux distros. Can you quantify and put on a pie chart a FUD factor? Can you count how many users move from one distro to the other, when we don't have counts in the first place?
And what of the other distros that ended up signing deals as well?
EA, who otherwise is a pretty evil outfit is doing something nice here, and I don't even care if it is for publicity.
They are open-sourcing a classic game rather than threatening to jail people who attempt to collect it via abandonware like certain people do (I'm looking right at you Vivendi!)
EA should be praised for this gesture, even as small as it seems. I can't believe someone is opening up software, and people are complaining.
We all know that zombies tend to gravitate towards malls, or high school proms and such. If they found headless remains outside a prehistoric shopping mall, then I'd be convinced.
I know this Australia we are talking about and not the US, but I thought most countries don't see blogs as journalism, and in the states, they haven't allowed blogs to be protected the same way journalism is (protecting sources and such). If blogs aren't journalism, then why are blogs considered libel?
This is just one parent expressing their opinion, and God help us if you can be sued simply for expressing your opinion.
The first result I get on a search may be old, but it shows 6.3 billion searches in July (no year specified) and of those, 2.7 were with Google.
They were easily the largest single site, Yahoo was second with 1.8, but Google didn't even have 43% market share. Compare that to Microsoft's complete dominance of the OS market.
Again, the first result I'm getting in a search has Windows at 97.46% market share.
When you don't even have HALF of the market share, you don't have a monopoly, because there is tons of competition. And Google's share in advertising is even lower.
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The UN and the Geneva Convention however have no qualms with claymore mines, even homebrew ones made in the field, with any sharp substance you can put in them. Those aren't torture, but tasers are.
I rarely respond to ACs, and here I did it twice.
However, frankly if you're looking at Kubuntu/Ubuntu, then KDE isn't really for you. Kubuntu is a poor implementation of KDE, and Ubuntu really isn't a very good distro to begin with. It is a popular buzz word, but if you want freedom, flexibility, choice, and a great desktop, then Ubuntu isn't the way to go.
If you want an extremely simple installer, a simple desktop, then Ubuntu is the way to go, and KDE really isn't.
I won't argue one is better than the other. Pick what you want.
The Plasma project was to revolutionize the entire desktop, and thusly many people have credited the composite effects in Kwin as part of the Plasma project/goal/vision, even if it doesn't use the plasma libraries. Likewise, Oxygen started as an icon project, but the widget theme is named Oxygen, because it is part of the same vision/goal/project.
You need to learn to be down with buzzwords.
In the grand scheme of a project the size of KDE, the panel isn't a major component. To the end user, it seems to be very important because you see it so predominantly. There is a difference in perception here.
Note I'm not really arguing with you, just trying to demonstrate the other side's perspective. Personally, I think the desktop interface is crucial to your experience using KDE, and for all the hype, Plasma didn't even seem to have much of a vision or design until very late in the game, and where as other major technologies and libraries in KDE 4 were well established, Plasma code appeared very late in the game.
For all the articles on the visual style, and that is what people will focus on, I fear most people will miss the jump to QT 4, SVG rendering, Solid, Phonon, Decibel, DBus, Oxygen, Sonnet, Okular, Strigi, Dolphin, Nepomuk, etc.
Amarok got a major redesign, and from what I read, Koffice got a major rewrite and redesign as well.
So I echo somewhat what the KDE devs are saying right now, that KDE 4.1 will probably start blowing people away. Right now, I think there is a sexy car covered in an ugly tarp here.
1. There are always a number of people with "state-of-the-art-addiction" who must have the hot new gadget.
2. There are always people looking to profit from the above people, who jump on these product launches to then turn around and sell the product on Ebay.
Beyond that I wouldn't read too much into this just yet. The Kindle may be a success, or a flop. All we know is that it a newly hyped gadget that sold out at launch, like most new hot gadgets.
Many KDE apps have moved away from that naming scheme actually.
It is being called a RC because KDE is much, much more than a "kicker" panel. There are many apps in the KDE project. The core underlying technologies, libraries, and most of the apps are quite stable. Plasma and the desktop are still evolving DAILY.
However, people see an ugly looking taskbar and assume the overall quality is really poor.
Icon size can be adjusted within seconds.
And the taskbar is very much a work in progress.
Sadly, Plasma is not yet the revolution it is promised to be, but it does allow data-engines and a good scripting frame work to easily create Plasmaoids, it brought composite effects to Kwin natively, and it brought SVG rendering to KDE's desktop. So Plasma does have some immediate benefit.
God forbid you have the option to configure your box how you like it.
Some of the menus could be better restructured to make better sense, and in KDE 4 some of them have. But I never get people complaining about having too many many options.
Please mod parent down. Every benchmark and testcase shows the same apps run faster, and use less memory on KDE than Gnome, and the default desktop on KDE runs faster and uses less memory on KDE than Gnome.
That may change in KDE 4, even though QT 4 is supposed to use less memory and run faster, but between the new kdelibs and Plasma, you have enough new features that is taking up more system resources than KDE 3. This is also still an early RC of the first release of the KDE 4 cycle. Given that KDE 3 got more efficient over time, I can hope KDE 4 will also get more efficient over time.
For all the "bloat" KDE uses less memory and runs faster than Gnome, and we're in the 21st century, so I do expect a fairly fully-featured desktop.
Xfce and others are great for older hardware, but even older computers can run KDE fairly well.
Akroyd has been talking that plot forever, and I imagine that might lend itself well to a GTA-type sandbox game, or like Spiderman, running around New York city and having all kinds of mayhem.
We're a multiplatform shop (AIX, Solaris, Linux, Windows, though mainly Windows) but during my peer review for this latest SysAdmin job, one of the guys said if he had his way, we'd never have anything *Nix related on the network, especially Linux which he claimed was programmed "by teenage turds".
He insisted that Microsoft has never done anything wrong, and that all problems on Microsoft platforms are caused by idiot third-party programs making crappy drivers or applications. Pretty much the only reason we use any *Nix products, is because that was how the system was designed by vendors we did contracts with. I keep trying to extoll the virtues, and I don't think anyone is listening. In many circles, open source seems to be a dirty word.
I've read the exact verbiage of the deal, as well as Novell's FAQ about the deal.
It simply says that Novell paid to license patents, and the ambiguity is notable. It doesn't have to clearly say that Linux violates Microsoft patents, Microsoft wins with even just a shadow of doubt here. If they can make corporations wary, then it will be enough to keep them from using Linux.
I work in a moderately sized IT department for a local company these days, and most of the IT staff here say things like "it is against the law to use any GPL programs for commercial use", etc. Even the suggestion or rumor is enough to scare people away permanently often enough.
I find it odd that I was modded Flamebait, when the Kubuntu devs themselves admit the Kubuntu isn't that great right now. It doesn't integrate existing Ubuntu features into KDE well (it is often effectively two releases behind) and the lead designer said on his blog the other day that right now it is just Ubuntu with KDE thrown on it. They plan in the future to design with KDE in mind and improve the distro, but right now Kubuntu is not a good implementation of KDE. It just isn't.
How do you measure the impact?
How many companies have been terrified to look at Linux now that Microsoft is screaming that Linux users are violating patents? Didn't SCO use the same tactics, and everyone berated them for it? SCO's stolen code they wouldn't point out is the same as the unlisted patents that Microsoft feels are violated.
Novell paid to license patents, and in doing so, they cast a shadow of guilt on all Linux distros. Can you quantify and put on a pie chart a FUD factor? Can you count how many users move from one distro to the other, when we don't have counts in the first place?
And what of the other distros that ended up signing deals as well?
Michael Meeks, who seems to be working predominantly on Gnome and OOo stuff. He still gets a check from Novell.
Kubuntu's KDE implementation is poor. If you like SUSE look at PCLinuxOS or Mandriva.
EA, who otherwise is a pretty evil outfit is doing something nice here, and I don't even care if it is for publicity.
They are open-sourcing a classic game rather than threatening to jail people who attempt to collect it via abandonware like certain people do (I'm looking right at you Vivendi!)
EA should be praised for this gesture, even as small as it seems. I can't believe someone is opening up software, and people are complaining.
We all know that zombies tend to gravitate towards malls, or high school proms and such. If they found headless remains outside a prehistoric shopping mall, then I'd be convinced.
I know this Australia we are talking about and not the US, but I thought most countries don't see blogs as journalism, and in the states, they haven't allowed blogs to be protected the same way journalism is (protecting sources and such). If blogs aren't journalism, then why are blogs considered libel?
This is just one parent expressing their opinion, and God help us if you can be sued simply for expressing your opinion.
Actually both of my NES units just stopped reading games period. My PS2 still works after I cleaned it.
I saw there is a new studio, but I'm not sure who is staffing it.
The first result I get on a search may be old, but it shows 6.3 billion searches in July (no year specified) and of those, 2.7 were with Google.
They were easily the largest single site, Yahoo was second with 1.8, but Google didn't even have 43% market share. Compare that to Microsoft's complete dominance of the OS market.
Again, the first result I'm getting in a search has Windows at 97.46% market share.
When you don't even have HALF of the market share, you don't have a monopoly, because there is tons of competition. And Google's share in advertising is even lower.
Please check your facts next time.