The fact that you'd be "seriously surprised" at normal and decent conduct shows the rampant anti-UK (and anti-USGovt., not that I think it's a country thing) bias around slashdot. Don't be ridiculous, please. You can't seriously think that that's what the government or the bank would do in their normal course of operations, can you?
Well, it really is a farce though. The founders modelled the Electoral College on the House of Commons, but separated the legislative and executive powers. Thus, Congress was left with legislation, and the College with electing the executive. The trouble is, this makes the College a stunted, farcical body. Its real role solidified in a few decades; and no Presidential election has ever been turned by rebel electors.
Well, the Sovereign still had the power to declare war; which means in effect that the Prime Minister had the power to do so. Brown has now given this power to Parliament -- it was his first act as Prime Minister. It's part of the fluidity of the British constitution. So in the future, it will be much more difficult to ignore the will of the people on the question of war.
It's also the delay-effect in democracy: the war has lost Labour quite a few votes, and that partially contributes to its current electoral woes. All democracies take time to exert their real democratic nature, and a quick action by a decisive Government can circumvent that will, for the time being.
Thanks for being the reasoned voice of sanity there. So many people try to overthrow all the world and all the modes of thought of our rich and varied intellectual history, but end up merely at an error surpassed long ago in different clothing.
The standard QM answer to this is that initially the actions would be identical (which is I think the answer you are looking for?), then later as a result of quantum indeterminacy, things would diverge.
Why not stop proscribing the behaviours of "intellectuals" and actually gauge them by their obvious, titular trait: their intellect. Everything else is irrelevant (and it's illiberal of you to suggest otherwise).
Yes, it's just you. Echelon is a physical surveillance system based on the subtle perturbations caused by electrical equipment, and/or a massive effort to record and understand all radiocommunications.
In the sense the GP was using it, perhaps. But there is a real sense in which the term 'socialised medicine' is a narrower subset of 'universal healthcare'. This narrower term really only applies to the UK and Cuba, where healthcare is mostly run (not just paid for) by the government.
Yes, probably why the two lead kernel hackers apart from Linus are English and Welsh. Don't do the stereotype thing. I've travelled almost all of Europe, and in a day-to-day way found the Central Europeans to be the most conservative, the Eastern Europeans the most progressive, with Western Europe stuck in between, with say Spain the most conservative and the Scandinavians the most progressive.
Yes, you would never engage in "insane babbling", would you?
"exonerate a baby raping, nazi supporting, organization"
Oh, right...
You also immediately jumped to the conclusion that I'm religious. And may I remind you that you brought the Protestant churches into the picture, not I. My original post referred merely to who preserved so much knowledge for us -- the Catholic Church. But rave on, good sir, rave on...
"You might consider providing proof for your insane babbling, rather than demand some from me which you will reject out of hand as it doesn't come from properly sterilized sources."
I don't think many references are needed to disprove your idiotic statements with who's the bottom of barrel scum. The worst violators of human rights are, in approximate order: uncivilised tribal societies, pre-Industrial non-Western countries, feudal systems, tyrannical Western-styled governments (from Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia to African and Latin American petty dictatorships), and then perhaps near the end of the list you might find pre-Enlightenment modern organised religion (Muslim, Hindu, Protestant Christian, Catholic Christian, in order of decreasing violence). Let me know what you'd like me to cite.
You, sir, simply have an agenda, and are blinded to reason because of it.
In open source, the software focus is on quality and empowering the end user.
That's as may be, but in free software, the focus, no, the raison d'etre, is the maintenance and improvement of the user's freedom. Proprietary software, by definition, goes against that. Interoperating with proprietary software is often useless for it, and sometimes at odds with its purpose. Until Microsoft quits trying to sideline and crush this fundamental goal of user freedom, there is not much point in being diplomatic. Until then, the only reasonable thing to do is to ignore them and keep on coding (or documenting, or testing, whatever).
I'm afraid you subscribe to the common propaganda about the Church put forth by Protestants. Recent historical analysis of the Inquisition, for instance, shows that thousands of times more people were burned for witchcraft by Protestant communities than the Catholic Church. In other words, simple and uneducated barbaric folk. Now, I am not trying to exonerate the Catholic Church; I detest many things about it myself. But your portrayal of them as being a force for suppressing rather than preserving, on the whole, knowledge throughout the Dark Ages simply does not stand up to what we know about history. And your claim that Muslims preserved more knowledge than the Church simply shows how biased and ridiculous your claims are. If you do wish to argue further, then please cite some reputable reference.
I didn't say user-friendly. Besides, Unix and X11 have been around since the 70s. Granted they weren't as well marketed or idiot-proof, or simple to configure, but I wasn't claiming those. I just said two things -- efficient and secure -- and did not make anything up in claiming that. I think that those things ought to be priorities above desktop-friendliness.
That's fine, but it's still no excuse for why other OS makers can do all that and more, and far more efficiently and securely than Windows, whether 98 or 2000 or XP or Vista.
Oh, and who do you think preserved most of the pre-Dark Ages knowledge for us in the first place? Who copied and preserved the Greek philosophical texts? That's right, the Church. Monks in monasteries. The Church has played a very important role in education.
Natural selection is a particularly bad example, as the Catholic and Anglican churches (which were the only active ones in the times you are speaking of) both endorse evolution by natural selection. Just some fundamentalist American churches don't.
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Wonder no more. PaperBack is already available for Windows.
The fact that you'd be "seriously surprised" at normal and decent conduct shows the rampant anti-UK (and anti-USGovt., not that I think it's a country thing) bias around slashdot. Don't be ridiculous, please. You can't seriously think that that's what the government or the bank would do in their normal course of operations, can you?
Well, it really is a farce though. The founders modelled the Electoral College on the House of Commons, but separated the legislative and executive powers. Thus, Congress was left with legislation, and the College with electing the executive. The trouble is, this makes the College a stunted, farcical body. Its real role solidified in a few decades; and no Presidential election has ever been turned by rebel electors.
Well, the Sovereign still had the power to declare war; which means in effect that the Prime Minister had the power to do so. Brown has now given this power to Parliament -- it was his first act as Prime Minister. It's part of the fluidity of the British constitution. So in the future, it will be much more difficult to ignore the will of the people on the question of war.
It's also the delay-effect in democracy: the war has lost Labour quite a few votes, and that partially contributes to its current electoral woes. All democracies take time to exert their real democratic nature, and a quick action by a decisive Government can circumvent that will, for the time being.
Thanks for being the reasoned voice of sanity there. So many people try to overthrow all the world and all the modes of thought of our rich and varied intellectual history, but end up merely at an error surpassed long ago in different clothing.
If you expect something too much, you can make it true. Social attitudes.
You can find the BBC's coverage on several UK-centric torrent sites, fyi. It's a hassle, I know, but if you are a desperate expat, not unjustifiable.
The standard QM answer to this is that initially the actions would be identical (which is I think the answer you are looking for?), then later as a result of quantum indeterminacy, things would diverge.
Why not stop proscribing the behaviours of "intellectuals" and actually gauge them by their obvious, titular trait: their intellect. Everything else is irrelevant (and it's illiberal of you to suggest otherwise).
Somehow, jokes or subtlety are destroyed by people explaining it... no thanks from me to you! ;)
Apple doesn't want to be a brand of over-indulgence.
I'm sure there's no danger of that.
Yes, it's just you. Echelon is a physical surveillance system based on the subtle perturbations caused by electrical equipment, and/or a massive effort to record and understand all radiocommunications.
Did you remember to divide the figures per capita?
Uses a cane? I think that went out with the Seventh Doctor, no?
In the sense the GP was using it, perhaps. But there is a real sense in which the term 'socialised medicine' is a narrower subset of 'universal healthcare'. This narrower term really only applies to the UK and Cuba, where healthcare is mostly run (not just paid for) by the government.
Yes, probably why the two lead kernel hackers apart from Linus are English and Welsh. Don't do the stereotype thing. I've travelled almost all of Europe, and in a day-to-day way found the Central Europeans to be the most conservative, the Eastern Europeans the most progressive, with Western Europe stuck in between, with say Spain the most conservative and the Scandinavians the most progressive.
Yes, you would never engage in "insane babbling", would you?
"exonerate a baby raping, nazi supporting, organization"
Oh, right...
You also immediately jumped to the conclusion that I'm religious. And may I remind you that you brought the Protestant churches into the picture, not I. My original post referred merely to who preserved so much knowledge for us -- the Catholic Church. But rave on, good sir, rave on...
"You might consider providing proof for your insane babbling, rather than demand some from me which you will reject out of hand as it doesn't come from properly sterilized sources."
I don't think many references are needed to disprove your idiotic statements with who's the bottom of barrel scum. The worst violators of human rights are, in approximate order: uncivilised tribal societies, pre-Industrial non-Western countries, feudal systems, tyrannical Western-styled governments (from Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia to African and Latin American petty dictatorships), and then perhaps near the end of the list you might find pre-Enlightenment modern organised religion (Muslim, Hindu, Protestant Christian, Catholic Christian, in order of decreasing violence). Let me know what you'd like me to cite.
You, sir, simply have an agenda, and are blinded to reason because of it.
I like the demonic horn on the girl.
In open source, the software focus is on quality and empowering the end user.
That's as may be, but in free software, the focus, no, the raison d'etre, is the maintenance and improvement of the user's freedom. Proprietary software, by definition, goes against that. Interoperating with proprietary software is often useless for it, and sometimes at odds with its purpose. Until Microsoft quits trying to sideline and crush this fundamental goal of user freedom, there is not much point in being diplomatic. Until then, the only reasonable thing to do is to ignore them and keep on coding (or documenting, or testing, whatever).
I'm afraid you subscribe to the common propaganda about the Church put forth by Protestants. Recent historical analysis of the Inquisition, for instance, shows that thousands of times more people were burned for witchcraft by Protestant communities than the Catholic Church. In other words, simple and uneducated barbaric folk. Now, I am not trying to exonerate the Catholic Church; I detest many things about it myself. But your portrayal of them as being a force for suppressing rather than preserving, on the whole, knowledge throughout the Dark Ages simply does not stand up to what we know about history. And your claim that Muslims preserved more knowledge than the Church simply shows how biased and ridiculous your claims are. If you do wish to argue further, then please cite some reputable reference.
I didn't say user-friendly. Besides, Unix and X11 have been around since the 70s. Granted they weren't as well marketed or idiot-proof, or simple to configure, but I wasn't claiming those. I just said two things -- efficient and secure -- and did not make anything up in claiming that. I think that those things ought to be priorities above desktop-friendliness.
That's fine, but it's still no excuse for why other OS makers can do all that and more, and far more efficiently and securely than Windows, whether 98 or 2000 or XP or Vista.
In a word, no. I wish I hadn't already posted in this thread and could use my mod points on such a gross perversion of the facts.
Oh, and who do you think preserved most of the pre-Dark Ages knowledge for us in the first place? Who copied and preserved the Greek philosophical texts? That's right, the Church. Monks in monasteries. The Church has played a very important role in education.
Natural selection is a particularly bad example, as the Catholic and Anglican churches (which were the only active ones in the times you are speaking of) both endorse evolution by natural selection. Just some fundamentalist American churches don't.
The situation is a bit different. Wikipedia gives a good overview of the situation, and why people were outraged about it before 2006.