I've been reading a lot of comments to this rumour all over the place. And I think I can condense the opinions of Solaris users as follows:o
"Yes! This is great! Sun can take all it needs from Linux and we don't have to give a single thing back! We'll finally destroy those fuckers!"
Which, I think, proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that they really do get the whole free software thing and aren't just a bunch of breadhead cunts beholden to a particularly dumb and unattractive corporation whose only redeeming feature is the entertainment value of its twitching death throes.
The same can be said for many people that downloaded Firefox. They tried it out, didn't like it, and switched back to IE.
It was probably too much effort to keep using Firefox.
Every time their computer finally boots up they already have 15 instances of IE displaying various free XXX search engines. Might as well just use one of those instead of starting something else.
Sure, no writing, but that's why you convert all your drives to HFS+.
Good point! I'm converting all my NTFS drives as we speak. I assume that Windows will still be able to read from them afterwards or you would have mentioned it? I sure hope so!
It reads Internal, External or Anal, whichever I chuck at it.
I know that Apple tends to be associated with homosexuality, but I think you're taking things a bit too far.
The article has some quotes in defence of string theory too but they're not as interesting. The usual blah, blah, blah, give us more time and eventually you'll see that we're right thing.
Yeah, that's the trouble with physics isn't it? So damn slow!
They should stop all this theorising and arguing and get on with building a faster than light drive.
And who will lose? Basically you average Joe who's one of the many who's bought an iPod and one of the 2b downloads from iTunes say.
So basically Apple customers?
Well, that's just awful. I can't imagine anyone wanting to harm such a fine, upstanding body of people.
What could they possibly have done to deserve it?
You would think from this that they spend all their time whining on-line, annoying people and defending DRM just because it's a product of the shining beacon of anal light that is Apple. And that's just absurd.
I'm especially irritated because I have just spent the last week trying to find an rdiff-backup or rsync that functions on Windows WITHOUT A FUCKING 2GB or 4GB FILE SIZE LIMITATION! Even the Cygwin people could only tell me to "try it"...How about putting it in the fucking FAQ what the file size limits are?!
It really fills me with regret to hear that those free software developers didn't write their free software to meet your exact needs.
I suggest you use commercial backup software instead.
You can make the money to buy the software through male prostitution. It won't be a great stretch for you, since you're clearly already a cocksucker.
Oh, now I see - Microsoft shill. OK, now that we know what you're up to it all makes sense. Sorry about the Zune, and the HD disc format that might have won had you actually supported it with the 360.
Anyone who makes an accusation of shilling for MS based on so little evidence is clearly a Sony plant.*
*Just thought I'd better point out that this is a joke. It's just that I notice you're an Apple fan and I know they tend to have problems with humour, irony and not sucking other men's cocks.
full use of the ps3 system and gentoo go hand in hand. your processors will be compiling most of the time.
Actually Gentoo for the PS3 is distributed as binary packages. The PS3 doesn't really have enough RAM to make compiling everything a comfortable experience.
But don't let actual facts get in the way of your bandwagon jumping, karma whoring comments.
And from what I've seen of recent Fedora releases, all that processor power on the PS3 would be used to startup and run Yum.
and I'm not sure what you mean by a better package management system than say fedora....
Perhaps he means less likely to shit itself at random times for obscure reasons?
The ability to install multiple versions of the same package without causing yourself brain damage?
A command line package management tool that doesn't suck so bad that it forces you to use the graphical tools that actually do 21st Century stuff like dependency resolution but which when then turn out to suck even harder?
I'm not really a fan of Gentoo, but your comment seems to imply that the Fedora package management tools don't suck donkey cock. The only way I can imagine anyone holding that opinion would be if that was the only one they'd ever used.
And exactly which part of the Gentoo installation did you find so scary? Partitioning your hard drive without a graphical tool to hold your hand? Installing the boot loader? Compiling the kernel? Actually reading the install document - you know, the one that explains everything in detail and assumes almost no prior knowledge?
If you find those things so hard, why are you even using Linux?
In my opinion there are only 3 Linux distros that get package management right - Slackware, Debian and Gentoo. Everything else is just a mess of hacks and poor design caused by their desire to cater to people like you.
And yes, I know Fedora supports APT. But it still uses it to install RPMs and the whole RPM system is fucked up by design. If you're going to argue with this point, please first download and read Maximum RPM. I know it's old and out of date - they've added plenty more suckage since then.
If the man who invented the math that astrophysicists currently use to model plasma recused himself from his own invention during his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, shouldn't astrophysicists listen? Or are astrophysicists allowed to make up science as they see fit?
Ah, I see you're back and you still don't have any evidence other than the acceptance speech of a Nobel laureate.
But you've used so many words that you must be on to something, right?
Anyway, your theories are clearly being suppressed by the powers that be. I highly recommend setting fire to yourself in front of a major landmark in order to draw attention to this.
Built in HDTV output, digital audio, small nice looking box, DVD... It has a lot of nice options +++ I get to use it as a game machine too. MythTV is cool on old hardware if you are doing older standard def content.. I am doing DigitalTV recordings (straight off the air in the new HDTV ATSC format).. so I need a front end with enough horse power to seamlessly decode HDTV content.
Gosh! That does sound wonderful. Except for all the little problems, like this one you mention in passing on your blog :
"However there is a catch... you have to run the video in frame buffer mode.. apparently Sony currently blocks Linux from accessing the video card directly... hopefully Sony will provide a better API."
You know as well as I do that that is never going to happen. The only way you're going to access all that hardware directly is if someone finds a way of breaking out of the hypervizor. And since IBM have been perfecting those for the last 30-40 years, I don't much fancy your chances.
PS3 Linux will go the same way as PS2 Linux. An interesting, but crippled curiosity that everyone will soon tire of.
Enough to prevent HD videos playing smoothly? Enough to prevent smooth scrolling looking nice?
As someone eles has already replied - Framebuffer only. So no 3D acceleration and, maybe if you're really lucky, very basic 2D acceleration (BitBLT). So to answer your question, any graphically intensive task will suck. And in the case of a framebuffer we can define intensive as "scrolling, solid window dragging, playing video, moving a mouse pointer smoothly, highlighting text etc, etc..."
It just so happens that I've got a Voodoo3 card in the pile by my desk. It will fucking annihalate the PS3 running Linux for all the tasks you mentioned.
One of the reasons I'm doing this is so that in the decades to come as astrophysicists finally begin to accept *real* plasma physics into their domain more and more, and people here on Slashdot begin to realize that they were wrong to invoke the term pseudoscience without actually learning about the topic that they were ostracizing, we can all go back over my postings and the responses to them, and we can all *learn* from the experience with the hope that it will never happen again.
So what you're basically trying to say is, "WAAAH! Don't be mean to me!"?
Anyway, I'd just like to let you know that I'm not discounting what you say because it derives from the Electric Universe theory. I'm discounting it because of the ratio of words to actual evidence. As far as I can tell from what you have written, the main basis for this theory is something that a Nobel prize winner said during his acceptance speech.
FTA, it looks like the supernova is brighter than the host galaxy's core. Not a bad way to go out, if you're a star.
But quite a bad way to go if you're a budding civilisation in the aforementioned galaxy. Having your entire planet sterilised can really ruin your day.
What kind of interface does it use? I remember there was a review of a samsung one that used ATA66, not exactly the best interface in the world. Shouldn't these things be able to actually use the capabilities (bandwidth) of SATA2 unlike most HDs today?
Yeah, because SATA2 is like 300MB per second so if they'd used that it would have been 5 times faster!
No. Let's introduce some reality to this situation. The transfer speed of this flash drive is not directly stated, but it will not be anything like 66MB/s. The speed advantage of these devices comes from the latency not raw bandwidth. So ATA66 would be entirely adequate for this device and SATA2 would make minimal difference.
The only other advantage of SATA2 is Native Command Queueing. One which I do not think is going to apply to Flash drives.
Although to be fair, I believe you were thinking of that silly Gigabyte (the manufacturer not the capacity) RAM drive thing. Which used DDR RAM instead of Flash and did have a stupidly slow interface which eliminated most of the potential speed boost. But that thing was just retarded anyway.
If you don't produce a steady stream of non-achievements people might start saying things like "Hey, what did that 3.26 billion dollars (http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/faq/mission.cfm) we just gave you for the Cassini project actually accomplish?" This way, you can say "Hey, the Cassini project CONFIRMED the existence of LIQUID which is almost like WATER which is a prerequisite for LIFE which would be the BIGGEST DISCOVERY EVER."
It's too early in the morning to come up with an eloquent and coherent response to your short sighted, small minded yankie bullshit. So I'm just going to content myself with wishing that you die unhappy and unfulfilled, preferably soon.
A little off topic... but, if you need Linux to work with WiFi and other gear that only has Windows drivers, you can run in a virtualized environment like VMWare. No, it's not the right answer, but it's here now and it works. I can't be bothered to fiddle with WiFi drivers just to get into Linux for a few minutes here and there... it's nice to have it just work with the virtualized network drivers provided by VMWare - especially now that VMWare Server is free as in beer.
So your solution is to only run Linux/BSD under Windows? Great, thanks for that. I certainly can't see any problems with your approach.
The GNU/advocates on this site need to understand something about me.
That presupposes that they would care who you are and what you have to say. You might want to work on that part before asking people to read your incoherent, paranoid ramblings.
I suggest that you commit suicide in some kind of horrific and interesting way in order to draw attention to your opinions.
I bet that would be pretty difficult precisely because of the security features of OpenBSD. I bet you that VMWare uses all kinds of nasty tricks like self modifying code and executable data that would make the OpenBSD kernel (and Theo) shit itself in disgust.
If you've got the Unix bug but want good driver support, consider a Mac. I'm a die-hard linux geek, but I'm writing this on a MacBook Pro. I run Fedora Core 6 and Windows under VMWare, the first for my fix (and development), the second for a couple apps that haven't been ported yet. With the virtualization support in the latest Intel processors it's really quite usable, and wireless is never a problem.
Why do you need FC6 under VMWare if the Mac is such a great replacement for Linux? Surely you can do all of your development under MacOS? Or are you developing Linux apps? If so, just tell the end users to switch to Macs. I don't see why they'd object when it's a perfect replacement. Obviously they're not asking you for that kind of advice, but neither did the original poster.
A couple of other points.
1. The virtualisation support in current Intel and AMD chips is actually slower than software virtualisation. Maybe this doesn't apply to Macs because they're so insanely great.
2. The built-in wireless chipset in your Mac may be well supported, but how many external PCMCIA/ExpressCard/USB adapters did you test before stating that the Mac has good driver support? It must have been the majority, right? I've heard the situation is a bit shit, but I haven't done the testing that you have.
3. "I'm a die-hard linux geek". No, you're a Mac advocate impersonating one. The way you can tell is when someone mentions that they want to use a free OS on their PC, you tell them to spend $2000 and up on proprietary hardware and software. It's quite easy with a bit of practice.
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I've been reading a lot of comments to this rumour all over the place. And I think I can condense the opinions of Solaris users as follows :o
"Yes! This is great! Sun can take all it needs from Linux and we don't have to give a single thing back! We'll finally destroy those fuckers!"
Which, I think, proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that they really do get the whole free software thing and aren't just a bunch of breadhead cunts beholden to a particularly dumb and unattractive corporation whose only redeeming feature is the entertainment value of its twitching death throes.
I don't surf for porn or cracked software; the only two kinds of web sites were my A/V software ever went off.
So it only alerts when visiting websites you don't visit?
The same can be said for many people that downloaded Firefox. They tried it out, didn't like it, and switched back to IE.
It was probably too much effort to keep using Firefox.
Every time their computer finally boots up they already have 15 instances of IE displaying various free XXX search engines. Might as well just use one of those instead of starting something else.
Sure, no writing, but that's why you convert all your drives to HFS+.
Good point! I'm converting all my NTFS drives as we speak. I assume that Windows will still be able to read from them afterwards or you would have mentioned it? I sure hope so!
It reads Internal, External or Anal, whichever I chuck at it.
I know that Apple tends to be associated with homosexuality, but I think you're taking things a bit too far.
The article has some quotes in defence of string theory too but they're not as interesting. The usual blah, blah, blah, give us more time and eventually you'll see that we're right thing.
Yeah, that's the trouble with physics isn't it? So damn slow!
They should stop all this theorising and arguing and get on with building a faster than light drive.
And who will lose? Basically you average Joe who's one of the many who's bought an iPod and one of the 2b downloads from iTunes say.
So basically Apple customers?
Well, that's just awful. I can't imagine anyone wanting to harm such a fine, upstanding body of people.
What could they possibly have done to deserve it?
You would think from this that they spend all their time whining on-line, annoying people and defending DRM just because it's a product of the shining beacon of anal light that is Apple. And that's just absurd.
I'm especially irritated because I have just spent the last week trying to find an rdiff-backup or rsync that functions on Windows WITHOUT A FUCKING 2GB or 4GB FILE SIZE LIMITATION! Even the Cygwin people could only tell me to "try it"...How about putting it in the fucking FAQ what the file size limits are?!
It really fills me with regret to hear that those free software developers didn't write their free software to meet your exact needs.
I suggest you use commercial backup software instead.
You can make the money to buy the software through male prostitution. It won't be a great stretch for you, since you're clearly already a cocksucker.
Oh, now I see - Microsoft shill. OK, now that we know what you're up to it all makes sense. Sorry about the Zune, and the HD disc format that might have won had you actually supported it with the 360.
Anyone who makes an accusation of shilling for MS based on so little evidence is clearly a Sony plant.*
*Just thought I'd better point out that this is a joke. It's just that I notice you're an Apple fan and I know they tend to have problems with humour, irony and not sucking other men's cocks.
Gosh, my mom can do better marketing than that.
Maybe, but she's never going to find the time is she? What with me fucking her in the ass twenty three and a half hours a day.
As a general rule, it's probably best not to drag your mother into your Slashdot comments.
full use of the ps3 system and gentoo go hand in hand. your processors will be compiling most of the time.
Actually Gentoo for the PS3 is distributed as binary packages. The PS3 doesn't really have enough RAM to make compiling everything a comfortable experience.
But don't let actual facts get in the way of your bandwagon jumping, karma whoring comments.
And from what I've seen of recent Fedora releases, all that processor power on the PS3 would be used to startup and run Yum.
and I'm not sure what you mean by a better package management system than say fedora....
Perhaps he means less likely to shit itself at random times for obscure reasons?
The ability to install multiple versions of the same package without causing yourself brain damage?
A command line package management tool that doesn't suck so bad that it forces you to use the graphical tools that actually do 21st Century stuff like dependency resolution but which when then turn out to suck even harder?
I'm not really a fan of Gentoo, but your comment seems to imply that the Fedora package management tools don't suck donkey cock. The only way I can imagine anyone holding that opinion would be if that was the only one they'd ever used.
And exactly which part of the Gentoo installation did you find so scary? Partitioning your hard drive without a graphical tool to hold your hand? Installing the boot loader? Compiling the kernel? Actually reading the install document - you know, the one that explains everything in detail and assumes almost no prior knowledge?
If you find those things so hard, why are you even using Linux?
In my opinion there are only 3 Linux distros that get package management right - Slackware, Debian and Gentoo. Everything else is just a mess of hacks and poor design caused by their desire to cater to people like you.
And yes, I know Fedora supports APT. But it still uses it to install RPMs and the whole RPM system is fucked up by design. If you're going to argue with this point, please first download and read Maximum RPM. I know it's old and out of date - they've added plenty more suckage since then.
If the man who invented the math that astrophysicists currently use to model plasma recused himself from his own invention during his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, shouldn't astrophysicists listen? Or are astrophysicists allowed to make up science as they see fit?
Ah, I see you're back and you still don't have any evidence other than the acceptance speech of a Nobel laureate.
But you've used so many words that you must be on to something, right?
Anyway, your theories are clearly being suppressed by the powers that be. I highly recommend setting fire to yourself in front of a major landmark in order to draw attention to this.
Built in HDTV output, digital audio, small nice looking box, DVD... It has a lot of nice options +++ I get to use it as a game machine too. MythTV is cool on old hardware if you are doing older standard def content .. I am doing DigitalTV recordings (straight off the air in the new HDTV ATSC format) .. so I need a front end with enough horse power to seamlessly decode HDTV content.
... you have to run the video in frame buffer mode .. apparently Sony currently blocks Linux from accessing the video card directly ... hopefully Sony will provide a better API."
Gosh! That does sound wonderful. Except for all the little problems, like this one you mention in passing on your blog :
"However there is a catch
You know as well as I do that that is never going to happen. The only way you're going to access all that hardware directly is if someone finds a way of breaking out of the hypervizor. And since IBM have been perfecting those for the last 30-40 years, I don't much fancy your chances.
PS3 Linux will go the same way as PS2 Linux. An interesting, but crippled curiosity that everyone will soon tire of.
....I'd buy it to dump nuclear waste. I doubt it has the strictest waste regulations in the world.
u ghsSealand.html
No, but as it only has room for about 3 barrels you're unlikely to make a great deal of money either.
Here's some pictures of your new "nation" :
http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/SealandTwo/Ro
And because it's been around for nearly a whole year, you know it's perfect for long term archival storage.
Look! There's even some blogs about it. What could go wrong?
Enough to prevent HD videos playing smoothly? Enough to prevent smooth scrolling looking nice?
As someone eles has already replied - Framebuffer only. So no 3D acceleration and, maybe if you're really lucky, very basic 2D acceleration (BitBLT). So to answer your question, any graphically intensive task will suck. And in the case of a framebuffer we can define intensive as "scrolling, solid window dragging, playing video, moving a mouse pointer smoothly, highlighting text etc, etc..."
It just so happens that I've got a Voodoo3 card in the pile by my desk. It will fucking annihalate the PS3 running Linux for all the tasks you mentioned.
One of the reasons I'm doing this is so that in the decades to come as astrophysicists finally begin to accept *real* plasma physics into their domain more and more, and people here on Slashdot begin to realize that they were wrong to invoke the term pseudoscience without actually learning about the topic that they were ostracizing, we can all go back over my postings and the responses to them, and we can all *learn* from the experience with the hope that it will never happen again.
So what you're basically trying to say is, "WAAAH! Don't be mean to me!"?
Anyway, I'd just like to let you know that I'm not discounting what you say because it derives from the Electric Universe theory. I'm discounting it because of the ratio of words to actual evidence. As far as I can tell from what you have written, the main basis for this theory is something that a Nobel prize winner said during his acceptance speech.
Peer review, motherfucker! Do you speak it?
FTA, it looks like the supernova is brighter than the host galaxy's core. Not a bad way to go out, if you're a star.
But quite a bad way to go if you're a budding civilisation in the aforementioned galaxy. Having your entire planet sterilised can really ruin your day.
What kind of interface does it use? I remember there was a review of a samsung one that used ATA66, not exactly the best interface in the world. Shouldn't these things be able to actually use the capabilities (bandwidth) of SATA2 unlike most HDs today?
Yeah, because SATA2 is like 300MB per second so if they'd used that it would have been 5 times faster!
No. Let's introduce some reality to this situation. The transfer speed of this flash drive is not directly stated, but it will not be anything like 66MB/s. The speed advantage of these devices comes from the latency not raw bandwidth. So ATA66 would be entirely adequate for this device and SATA2 would make minimal difference.
The only other advantage of SATA2 is Native Command Queueing. One which I do not think is going to apply to Flash drives.
Although to be fair, I believe you were thinking of that silly Gigabyte (the manufacturer not the capacity) RAM drive thing. Which used DDR RAM instead of Flash and did have a stupidly slow interface which eliminated most of the potential speed boost. But that thing was just retarded anyway.
If you don't produce a steady stream of non-achievements people might start saying things like "Hey, what did that 3.26 billion dollars (http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/faq/mission.cfm) we just gave you for the Cassini project actually accomplish?" This way, you can say "Hey, the Cassini project CONFIRMED the existence of LIQUID which is almost like WATER which is a prerequisite for LIFE which would be the BIGGEST DISCOVERY EVER."
It's too early in the morning to come up with an eloquent and coherent response to your short sighted, small minded yankie bullshit. So I'm just going to content myself with wishing that you die unhappy and unfulfilled, preferably soon.
We just had this argument last night.. great to see so much "support" from the alternative OS community.
OSX isn't an alternative OS, it's just another proprietary, commercial and mostly closed source OS.
It's about as alternative as Pearl Jam.
A little off topic... but, if you need Linux to work with WiFi and other gear that only has Windows drivers, you can run in a virtualized environment like VMWare. No, it's not the right answer, but it's here now and it works. I can't be bothered to fiddle with WiFi drivers just to get into Linux for a few minutes here and there... it's nice to have it just work with the virtualized network drivers provided by VMWare - especially now that VMWare Server is free as in beer.
So your solution is to only run Linux/BSD under Windows? Great, thanks for that. I certainly can't see any problems with your approach.
The GNU/advocates on this site need to understand something about me.
That presupposes that they would care who you are and what you have to say. You might want to work on that part before asking people to read your incoherent, paranoid ramblings.
I suggest that you commit suicide in some kind of horrific and interesting way in order to draw attention to your opinions.
1. Make VMWare Player work on OpenBSD
I bet that would be pretty difficult precisely because of the security features of OpenBSD. I bet you that VMWare uses all kinds of nasty tricks like self modifying code and executable data that would make the OpenBSD kernel (and Theo) shit itself in disgust.
Security > Convenience does have consequences.
If you've got the Unix bug but want good driver support, consider a Mac. I'm a die-hard linux geek, but I'm writing this on a MacBook Pro. I run Fedora Core 6 and Windows under VMWare, the first for my fix (and development), the second for a couple apps that haven't been ported yet. With the virtualization support in the latest Intel processors it's really quite usable, and wireless is never a problem.
Why do you need FC6 under VMWare if the Mac is such a great replacement for Linux? Surely you can do all of your development under MacOS? Or are you developing Linux apps? If so, just tell the end users to switch to Macs. I don't see why they'd object when it's a perfect replacement. Obviously they're not asking you for that kind of advice, but neither did the original poster.
A couple of other points.
1. The virtualisation support in current Intel and AMD chips is actually slower than software virtualisation. Maybe this doesn't apply to Macs because they're so insanely great.
2. The built-in wireless chipset in your Mac may be well supported, but how many external PCMCIA/ExpressCard/USB adapters did you test before stating that the Mac has good driver support? It must have been the majority, right? I've heard the situation is a bit shit, but I haven't done the testing that you have.
3. "I'm a die-hard linux geek". No, you're a Mac advocate impersonating one. The way you can tell is when someone mentions that they want to use a free OS on their PC, you tell them to spend $2000 and up on proprietary hardware and software. It's quite easy with a bit of practice.