Yes, 2010 was about as close as it gets, but even in that one many of the Russians were played for comic relief and Roy Scheider was the clear protagonist. Only the Russian captain stood out as a serious character, and her scenes were pretty brief.
The USSR's space program was mentioned VERY briefly in the The Right Stuff (IIRC it was literally for a matter of seconds), and functioned purely as the incentive for NASA to create the GREATEST SPACE PROGRAM EVAR!!! And I believe the sole mention of non-Americans in The Martian was a brief scene near the end where some anonymous Chinese were very briefly shown helping the heroic-American stars rescue their fellow heroic-American Matt Damon. Both were the cinematic equivalent of South Park episode where the main character walks around flaunting his giant dick for 30-minutes, while his counterpart is given a 15-second scene to briefly show his 1-inch micropenis (for equity).
I think the Space Shuttle was nothing more than a contractor boondoggle from the start. The U.S. should have continued development of the much more powerful and practical Saturn line in the 1970's instead of turning NASA into a glorified jobs program and cash funnel for bullshit-artist contractors who over-promised on the Space Shuttle from day one. If they had, maybe the manned space program wouldn't have become a PR-focused mess that never got beyond LEO again. As it is, NASA has become a money-sink joke, while the Russians at least were smart enough to stick with a program that was cost-effective if not particularly visionary anymore.
Way better than a Clintonazi whose throwback anti-Russian stance might have led to WWIII.
But oh noes!!!!! The Donald might want to start using the evil term "illegal aliens" again instead of "undocumented workers"!!!! LETS ALL CLUTCH OUR PEARLS and vote in a bellicose corporate whore instead!!!
It's very telling of the American popular mindset that not a single mainstream movie out of Hollywood has ever shown a non-American space program accomplishing anything of any importance in their science fiction (or even their documentaries, for that matter). In the rare cases where non-Americans are even shown, they're usually just used as some sort of comic relief (the laughable Russian stereotype cosmonaut in Armageddon being one of the most offensive examples).
Name one popular American film (documentary, fiction or otherwise) that has ever shown the USSR or Russian space program as anything other than a backdrop to NASA's *amazing accomplishments*.
That's called "propaganda." And if you don't think that says anything about American attitudes, I would suggest it's you who is dealing with retardation issues.
I guess that's why Hollywood continues to churn out movies showing NASA (and NASA *ONLY*) sending men into space even though they haven't been able to do that for six years now. Yep, no butthurt or denial there at all.
Also your "bit of a gap" is rapidly approaching a decade, with no end in sight.
If I had a nickel for every piece of "NASA's story represents the entirety of the space race/USSR-Russia sucks/Let's pretend that NASA is the only space program" propaganda piece in journalism and pop culture that has come out since 1957, I could fund my own space program that would be better than anybody's.
Yeah, I get it, butthurt Americans are mad that they can no longer send men into space. So they feel the need to come up with any metric to show that NASA is somehow still superior to the Russians, even as they have to beg Russia for rides to ISS.
Americans, still fighting the Cold War long after everyone else went home.
I could literally give you over a hundred citations of Democrats and left-wing media citing and circulating this story as an indictment of Trump, bit I'll just give you a couple of typical examples from The Huffington Post and Esquire:
The point is that both sides (and their media allies) have become guilty of smearing the other with the most despicable charges, often based on the flimsiest of evidence. It has almost become a defacto standard to call your political opponent a pedophile and/or rapist. And the left has also made it a routine to call Republicans racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. And the right has also made it a routine to call its opponents criminal, treasonous, un-American, etc.
Discourse on both sides has devolved into a giant, very ugly screaming match. And that ain't good.
The Dems call all republicans racists because they are republican. Now the Republicans can fight back and call all Democrats pedophiles. In today's media led world there is in fact nobody who is not either a pedophile, a racist, or a nazi.
Yep, that's the level of political discourse these days, both sides seeing how far they can go to demonize their opponent as the worst human being on the planet. I think political discourse today has gotten worse than it was during the McCarthy era, and is rapidly approaching an 1850's level of vitriol. And the 1850's vitriol led to a civil war.
You know that really pompous guy at the party who always has to let everyone know that he doesn't even OWN a TV? That guy who feels the need to interject himself into every conversation by letting everyone know that gourmet food is the ONLY way to eat? That guy who always knows more than everyone about everything and wants everyone to KNOW it?
I pretty much just assume that any company these days with an office or HQ in northern Virginia, Maryland, or DC is a CIA front company. Shit, they're one of the biggest industries in those states.
The whole wall thing was the stupidest part of the Trump campaign to me. I know the wall is largely symbolic, but everyone knows that this won't actually work. If you really want to stop illegal immigration, all you need to do is have the FBI and INS start arresting execs and managers at every company/farm/business that employs illegals and sticking them with real prison-time and hefty fines. You start doing that consistently and regularly and illegal immigration will dry up, as the incentive for illegals to come here disappears. There aren't going to be any jobs for illegals if the farmers and businesses who hire them know there is a good chance they're going to get caught and face prison time for illegal hiring. And no one is going to cross the border if there are no jobs here waiting for them.
But no one wants to do that because both Republicans and Democrats give a wink-wink to the businesses/farms that hire illegals (businesses who also, coincidentally, donate to their campaigns). It's quid-pro-quo politics that fucks over legal workers, makes bullshit symbolic gestures like a wall that won't stop anything, and demonizes illegals who are just doing what they have to do to feed their families (when the REAL blame should be on those who incentivize them to come here in the first place).
No, Trump won because he mobilized a white working class that's tired of being ignored by a smug, pompous left that completely ignores the concerns of "flyover" states and labels every white person as racist just because they dare to oppose policies of open borders and trade deals that always end up fucking over the working class.
Just curious why you think people in your country need jobs more than people in other countries do? Trump's policy can be summed up as "If they're outside our borders, F**K 'em all!" That's pre mid-20th-century thinking. Not going to be helpful.
Newsflash: Every country's government acts in the interest of its own citizens first. That's kind of the whole point of having countries in the first place.
I came across one table at the old location where someone practically raped the pine needles off a small Christmas tree.
Probably one of those new "ecosexuals". And yes, that's apparently an actual thing now, and not just some joke about extremist eco-hippies. And no, they don't get nature's consent first, presumably.
I swear, it's becoming harder and harder to parody the left when so many of their own have become parodies of themselves.
And if Twitter were bought tomorrow by a right-wing billionaire who announced plans to ban all pro-SJW accounts, I'm sure you wouldn't be the first person out howling in the streets about it.
Like I said, just remember that the precedent you set today can be used against you tomorrow. It's the classic Robespierre lesson.
No, I'm not a troll. I'm just someone with opinions that often conflict with radical-left mentality of Silicon Valley. I'm someone who doesn't want to be silenced on all social media platforms just because I refuse to completely and unequivocally endorse the SJW dogma.
And just remember--if you silence *me* today, you're establishing a precedent for someone to silence *you* tomorrow.
Twitter is a private service. If it wishes to offer its users the tools to block certain messages, then that's between said users and Twitter.
And I'm sure you would feel the same way if it were the SJW's getting their message blocked, right? For example, if Twitter were to start blocking all messages advocating gay rights, you would be totally cool with that I'm sure.
I was referencing your Red Dawn hyperbole. But yes, I fully expect that Donald Trump will break many, if not most, of his campaign promises just like every President has done since ever. Do you seriously think Hillary was ever going to deliver on all her promises?
Lighten up, Francis. Trump isn't going to eat your baby, put you in a concentration camp, or start WWIII.
I feel like I'm listening to the crazy shit about Muslim Obama coming to take our guns away all over again, only this time the batshit insanity is coming from the left.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, 2010 was about as close as it gets, but even in that one many of the Russians were played for comic relief and Roy Scheider was the clear protagonist. Only the Russian captain stood out as a serious character, and her scenes were pretty brief.
The USSR's space program was mentioned VERY briefly in the The Right Stuff (IIRC it was literally for a matter of seconds), and functioned purely as the incentive for NASA to create the GREATEST SPACE PROGRAM EVAR!!! And I believe the sole mention of non-Americans in The Martian was a brief scene near the end where some anonymous Chinese were very briefly shown helping the heroic-American stars rescue their fellow heroic-American Matt Damon. Both were the cinematic equivalent of South Park episode where the main character walks around flaunting his giant dick for 30-minutes, while his counterpart is given a 15-second scene to briefly show his 1-inch micropenis (for equity).
Is that the best you can do?
I think the Space Shuttle was nothing more than a contractor boondoggle from the start. The U.S. should have continued development of the much more powerful and practical Saturn line in the 1970's instead of turning NASA into a glorified jobs program and cash funnel for bullshit-artist contractors who over-promised on the Space Shuttle from day one. If they had, maybe the manned space program wouldn't have become a PR-focused mess that never got beyond LEO again. As it is, NASA has become a money-sink joke, while the Russians at least were smart enough to stick with a program that was cost-effective if not particularly visionary anymore.
Way better than a Clintonazi whose throwback anti-Russian stance might have led to WWIII.
But oh noes!!!!! The Donald might want to start using the evil term "illegal aliens" again instead of "undocumented workers"!!!! LETS ALL CLUTCH OUR PEARLS and vote in a bellicose corporate whore instead!!!
It's very telling of the American popular mindset that not a single mainstream movie out of Hollywood has ever shown a non-American space program accomplishing anything of any importance in their science fiction (or even their documentaries, for that matter). In the rare cases where non-Americans are even shown, they're usually just used as some sort of comic relief (the laughable Russian stereotype cosmonaut in Armageddon being one of the most offensive examples).
Name one popular American film (documentary, fiction or otherwise) that has ever shown the USSR or Russian space program as anything other than a backdrop to NASA's *amazing accomplishments*.
That's called "propaganda." And if you don't think that says anything about American attitudes, I would suggest it's you who is dealing with retardation issues.
I guess that's why Hollywood continues to churn out movies showing NASA (and NASA *ONLY*) sending men into space even though they haven't been able to do that for six years now. Yep, no butthurt or denial there at all.
Also your "bit of a gap" is rapidly approaching a decade, with no end in sight.
If I had a nickel for every piece of "NASA's story represents the entirety of the space race/USSR-Russia sucks/Let's pretend that NASA is the only space program" propaganda piece in journalism and pop culture that has come out since 1957, I could fund my own space program that would be better than anybody's.
Yeah, I get it, butthurt Americans are mad that they can no longer send men into space. So they feel the need to come up with any metric to show that NASA is somehow still superior to the Russians, even as they have to beg Russia for rides to ISS.
Americans, still fighting the Cold War long after everyone else went home.
I could literally give you over a hundred citations of Democrats and left-wing media citing and circulating this story as an indictment of Trump, bit I'll just give you a couple of typical examples from The Huffington Post and Esquire:
http://www.esquire.com/news-po...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
The point is that both sides (and their media allies) have become guilty of smearing the other with the most despicable charges, often based on the flimsiest of evidence. It has almost become a defacto standard to call your political opponent a pedophile and/or rapist. And the left has also made it a routine to call Republicans racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. And the right has also made it a routine to call its opponents criminal, treasonous, un-American, etc.
Discourse on both sides has devolved into a giant, very ugly screaming match. And that ain't good.
The Dems call all republicans racists because they are republican. Now the Republicans can fight back and call all Democrats pedophiles. In today's media led world there is in fact nobody who is not either a pedophile, a racist, or a nazi.
Don't forget when Dems tried to call Trump a pedophile too.
Yep, that's the level of political discourse these days, both sides seeing how far they can go to demonize their opponent as the worst human being on the planet. I think political discourse today has gotten worse than it was during the McCarthy era, and is rapidly approaching an 1850's level of vitriol. And the 1850's vitriol led to a civil war.
You know that really pompous guy at the party who always has to let everyone know that he doesn't even OWN a TV? That guy who feels the need to interject himself into every conversation by letting everyone know that gourmet food is the ONLY way to eat? That guy who always knows more than everyone about everything and wants everyone to KNOW it?
Well that guy has his own show on BBC radio.
I pretty much just assume that any company these days with an office or HQ in northern Virginia, Maryland, or DC is a CIA front company. Shit, they're one of the biggest industries in those states.
Building a wall - now a fence
The whole wall thing was the stupidest part of the Trump campaign to me. I know the wall is largely symbolic, but everyone knows that this won't actually work. If you really want to stop illegal immigration, all you need to do is have the FBI and INS start arresting execs and managers at every company/farm/business that employs illegals and sticking them with real prison-time and hefty fines. You start doing that consistently and regularly and illegal immigration will dry up, as the incentive for illegals to come here disappears. There aren't going to be any jobs for illegals if the farmers and businesses who hire them know there is a good chance they're going to get caught and face prison time for illegal hiring. And no one is going to cross the border if there are no jobs here waiting for them.
But no one wants to do that because both Republicans and Democrats give a wink-wink to the businesses/farms that hire illegals (businesses who also, coincidentally, donate to their campaigns). It's quid-pro-quo politics that fucks over legal workers, makes bullshit symbolic gestures like a wall that won't stop anything, and demonizes illegals who are just doing what they have to do to feed their families (when the REAL blame should be on those who incentivize them to come here in the first place).
No, Trump won because he mobilized a white working class that's tired of being ignored by a smug, pompous left that completely ignores the concerns of "flyover" states and labels every white person as racist just because they dare to oppose policies of open borders and trade deals that always end up fucking over the working class.
Just curious why you think people in your country need jobs more than people in other countries do? Trump's policy can be summed up as "If they're outside our borders, F**K 'em all!" That's pre mid-20th-century thinking. Not going to be helpful.
Newsflash: Every country's government acts in the interest of its own citizens first. That's kind of the whole point of having countries in the first place.
I came across one table at the old location where someone practically raped the pine needles off a small Christmas tree.
Probably one of those new "ecosexuals". And yes, that's apparently an actual thing now, and not just some joke about extremist eco-hippies. And no, they don't get nature's consent first, presumably.
I swear, it's becoming harder and harder to parody the left when so many of their own have become parodies of themselves.
Except pesky physics, which still refuses to budge.
Maybe they would have voted for Sanders, if Democrats had given them that alternative.
racist, misogynistic fascist
If you keep calling everyone who disagrees with you those kinds of names you're going to lose again in 2020.
And if Twitter were bought tomorrow by a right-wing billionaire who announced plans to ban all pro-SJW accounts, I'm sure you wouldn't be the first person out howling in the streets about it.
Like I said, just remember that the precedent you set today can be used against you tomorrow. It's the classic Robespierre lesson.
No, I'm not a troll. I'm just someone with opinions that often conflict with radical-left mentality of Silicon Valley. I'm someone who doesn't want to be silenced on all social media platforms just because I refuse to completely and unequivocally endorse the SJW dogma.
And just remember--if you silence *me* today, you're establishing a precedent for someone to silence *you* tomorrow.
Twitter is a private service. If it wishes to offer its users the tools to block certain messages, then that's between said users and Twitter.
And I'm sure you would feel the same way if it were the SJW's getting their message blocked, right? For example, if Twitter were to start blocking all messages advocating gay rights, you would be totally cool with that I'm sure.
because they want to keep out groups of people
Yeah, those are called "borders" and that's one of the most important things that every country uses them for.
Just as soon as Amazon buys Taco Bell.
I was referencing your Red Dawn hyperbole. But yes, I fully expect that Donald Trump will break many, if not most, of his campaign promises just like every President has done since ever. Do you seriously think Hillary was ever going to deliver on all her promises?
Lighten up, Francis. Trump isn't going to eat your baby, put you in a concentration camp, or start WWIII.
I feel like I'm listening to the crazy shit about Muslim Obama coming to take our guns away all over again, only this time the batshit insanity is coming from the left.