If that is a not-so-subtle attempt at Godwinning me, you should ask yourself what countries Iran has invaded in modern history, or what fascist or imperialist intentions they have shown. You might also want to think about how that argument could so easily be turned back on the U.S., and ask those same questions about the U.S. in the last ten years. The answers point to a truth you probably don't want to think about. So why not just sit down instead?
North Korea is a different story. There is a whole different dynamic at work in that country. I'll deliver my thoughts on that when a NK story pops up.
The whole reason that Iran and North Korea even began pursuing nuclear weapons is because of that incredibly stupid "Axis of Evil" speech that George Bush made in 2003. When the largest military power in the world labels you as one of three "Axis of Evil" members, then proceeds to invade one of the other two, it tends to make you a bit twitchy. And, both Iran and NK know that the only way to really protect yourself from U.S. invasion is with nuclear weapons.
Due mainly to Israeli and U.S. propaganda, a lot of people seem to think that Iran is building nukes to attack Israel. But the fact is that Iran has never shown itself to be a particularly hostile or irrational nation in any military sense. And even despite the anti-U.S. rhetoric that followed the revolution that overthrew the U.S. puppet shah and the U.S. helping Saddam Hussein during the Iraq/Iran war, Iranians have been surprisingly open to U.S. diplomacy in the past. They were even one of the first countries to offer the U.S. condolences after the 9-11 attacks, and in the pre-Bush years maintained a stable, if sometimes tense, relationship with the U.S. They're a country that seems to want to be liked on the world stage. But they're also a country that wants to send a message to the U.S. that they're not going to stand by and be invaded on some U.S. oil grab.
So we cut off their banks and hit them with sanctions. Fine. A lot of Iranian people will suffer. And maybe this will lead them to negotiate, maybe not.
But you know what I bet would ABSOLUTELY lead them to negotiate and drop their nuke program?
1) Offer a few public goodwill gestures to make it clear that the U.S. is *not* going to invade them or attack them 2) Tell Mossad to stop assassinating their scientists, or face sanctions of their own. 3) Reign in Israel and make it clear to them that attacking Iran will NOT be tolerated, and will cost them the friendship of the U.S. 4) Normalizing relations with Iran.
You do those four things, and you won't need to cut off their banks to get them to the table. They'll be *running* to get to the table.
I think Borg Jobs would have been more appropriate (or, even better, a Jesus/Jobs mashup). Balmer was a shadow of Gates, Gates was off fighting hunger in Africa, and Jobs was taking over the world.
Think of it like that scene in Airplane 2 where heavily-armed terrorists are walking right through the security checkpoint while the TSA holds an old lady at gunpoint to search her purse.
If you can make it to Austin you'll be okay. Think of it as a sane oasis, surrounded by a wasteland of angry mutants circling around it in dune buggies.
Andy Baio sold Upcoming.org to Yahoo in 2005 for an undisclosed sum, and agreed at the time to help the company file for patents based on the site he had invented and the code he had written.
If you feel so strongly about it, feel free to give all that money to a charity, Mr. Morality.
Oh, what's that you say? Oh, you want to KEEP all the money but still bitch? I guess that makes you the hero who cashed that check but didn't really WANT to, man.
Reminds me of the guy who gets caught hacking, turns in all his hacking buddies for a reduced sentence, and then tells them afterwards "Oh, I didn't know they were going to use my testimony *against* you guys."
Was there really a huge clamor of people wanting a Google+ manual? You would probably make more money selling a collection of annoying animated gifs and hideous wallpapers for peoples' MySpace pages.
The personal data of anyone participating in some random survey is probably pretty useless. Good luck getting a credit card on the credit score of someone willing to show up to some strange lab on the promise of a $10 payment and a free soda.
Well they did use military force to overthrow the puppet shah the U.S. put into place when they overthrew Iran's democratically-elected government in 1953 in an oil grab.
But that's probably not an example that puts the West in the best light.
I'd rather have countries launching lame DDoS's than launching missiles.
And I wouldn't mind living in a world where everyone put down their guns and just started being dicks to each other on the internet instead. Besides, in that world, all us losers on/. could finally be the badass war heroes who women want to sleep with.
Of course, most will probably just use both the internet AND their guns/missiles.
I'd pay $2 just for getting it on my Xbox. It's a lot of hassle to rip a DVD and get it over to my Xbox (you have to stream it from a running computer and deal with conversion issues--and the quality suffers). I could put my whole regular catalog on there pretty cheap, never have to deal with the discs again, and stream it directly from their servers (like Netflix) with no hassles. I'm sorry, but that's actually a pretty good deal (for me at least).
If that is a not-so-subtle attempt at Godwinning me, you should ask yourself what countries Iran has invaded in modern history, or what fascist or imperialist intentions they have shown. You might also want to think about how that argument could so easily be turned back on the U.S., and ask those same questions about the U.S. in the last ten years. The answers point to a truth you probably don't want to think about. So why not just sit down instead?
Your right. My apologies.
North Korea is a different story. There is a whole different dynamic at work in that country. I'll deliver my thoughts on that when a NK story pops up.
I meant "rein in" wiseguy.
Oh sorry, what I meant to say was F1RST POST!!!!!!!
The whole reason that Iran and North Korea even began pursuing nuclear weapons is because of that incredibly stupid "Axis of Evil" speech that George Bush made in 2003. When the largest military power in the world labels you as one of three "Axis of Evil" members, then proceeds to invade one of the other two, it tends to make you a bit twitchy. And, both Iran and NK know that the only way to really protect yourself from U.S. invasion is with nuclear weapons.
Due mainly to Israeli and U.S. propaganda, a lot of people seem to think that Iran is building nukes to attack Israel. But the fact is that Iran has never shown itself to be a particularly hostile or irrational nation in any military sense. And even despite the anti-U.S. rhetoric that followed the revolution that overthrew the U.S. puppet shah and the U.S. helping Saddam Hussein during the Iraq/Iran war, Iranians have been surprisingly open to U.S. diplomacy in the past. They were even one of the first countries to offer the U.S. condolences after the 9-11 attacks, and in the pre-Bush years maintained a stable, if sometimes tense, relationship with the U.S. They're a country that seems to want to be liked on the world stage. But they're also a country that wants to send a message to the U.S. that they're not going to stand by and be invaded on some U.S. oil grab.
So we cut off their banks and hit them with sanctions. Fine. A lot of Iranian people will suffer. And maybe this will lead them to negotiate, maybe not.
But you know what I bet would ABSOLUTELY lead them to negotiate and drop their nuke program?
1) Offer a few public goodwill gestures to make it clear that the U.S. is *not* going to invade them or attack them
2) Tell Mossad to stop assassinating their scientists, or face sanctions of their own.
3) Reign in Israel and make it clear to them that attacking Iran will NOT be tolerated, and will cost them the friendship of the U.S.
4) Normalizing relations with Iran.
You do those four things, and you won't need to cut off their banks to get them to the table. They'll be *running* to get to the table.
Does that count?
Yeah, they could pay you $6 per student a month. Or they could just download Alice (which is much better and teaches actual OOP) for free.
But thank you for your Slashvertisement.
No, that is unpossible.
Only rich elite kids could afford the Brittanica.
So could libraries.
I think Borg Jobs would have been more appropriate (or, even better, a Jesus/Jobs mashup). Balmer was a shadow of Gates, Gates was off fighting hunger in Africa, and Jobs was taking over the world.
What is this "Constitution" you speak of?
Think of it like that scene in Airplane 2 where heavily-armed terrorists are walking right through the security checkpoint while the TSA holds an old lady at gunpoint to search her purse.
If you can make it to Austin you'll be okay. Think of it as a sane oasis, surrounded by a wasteland of angry mutants circling around it in dune buggies.
12:00 midnight: Let there be light, motherfuckers! How you like this TIME AND SPACE, haters?
12:31 a.m.: Galaxies and stars forming. Yep, let's get this party STARTED!!
4:00 a.m.: All work and no play
8:00 a.m.: Makes God
1:00 p.m.: A dull boy
5:00 p.m.: Earth forms. Great, another rock. Boooooorrrring.
5:20 p.m.: Life on earth. Well, this has potential.
11:53:12 p.m.: Hah, suck on THAT, dinosaurs!
11:59:59 p.m.: Humans evolve! Hey, looks like this "life" thing is finally going somewhere.
11:59:59:59:46 p.m.: Reality television? *That's* where you took it? Really?
12:00 midnight: Hope you losers read those Mayan calendars I sent.
Slashdot won't let you post until it verifies you haven't RTFA.
I already do that with Netflix streaming anyway.
Andy Baio sold Upcoming.org to Yahoo in 2005 for an undisclosed sum, and agreed at the time to help the company file for patents based on the site he had invented and the code he had written.
If you feel so strongly about it, feel free to give all that money to a charity, Mr. Morality.
Oh, what's that you say? Oh, you want to KEEP all the money but still bitch? I guess that makes you the hero who cashed that check but didn't really WANT to, man.
Reminds me of the guy who gets caught hacking, turns in all his hacking buddies for a reduced sentence, and then tells them afterwards "Oh, I didn't know they were going to use my testimony *against* you guys."
Lol. Survey finds that 95% of people are undergrad students at Cambridge.
Was there really a huge clamor of people wanting a Google+ manual? You would probably make more money selling a collection of annoying animated gifs and hideous wallpapers for peoples' MySpace pages.
The personal data of anyone participating in some random survey is probably pretty useless. Good luck getting a credit card on the credit score of someone willing to show up to some strange lab on the promise of a $10 payment and a free soda.
Are you arguing that the best way to help a suicidal person is to give them more guns?
Well they did use military force to overthrow the puppet shah the U.S. put into place when they overthrew Iran's democratically-elected government in 1953 in an oil grab.
But that's probably not an example that puts the West in the best light.
I'd rather have countries launching lame DDoS's than launching missiles.
And I wouldn't mind living in a world where everyone put down their guns and just started being dicks to each other on the internet instead. Besides, in that world, all us losers on /. could finally be the badass war heroes who women want to sleep with.
Of course, most will probably just use both the internet AND their guns/missiles.
I'd pay $2 just for getting it on my Xbox. It's a lot of hassle to rip a DVD and get it over to my Xbox (you have to stream it from a running computer and deal with conversion issues--and the quality suffers). I could put my whole regular catalog on there pretty cheap, never have to deal with the discs again, and stream it directly from their servers (like Netflix) with no hassles. I'm sorry, but that's actually a pretty good deal (for me at least).