In an alternate universe, which has Meg Whitman as both the brilliant and reigning Governor of California, I can hear her preach how telecommuting is the answer to global warming and run-away automobile infrastructure costs. Yes, the same Meg Whitman, I can hear her 'doing her job' now; it doesn't seem so unfathomable, you know?
This is the kind of decision-making that earns people of her class millions if not up-front, then at least in out-the-door compensation. Low-risk to her ass, while such a major-change seems both plausible and relatively do-able as she seems to be smart, with no concept or care for how things have actually been done up until now, and the people involved. Hell, Marissa Meyer at Yahoo already has enacted this thinking months ago; and not the freshest of ideas. Meg thinks her bosses on the board will appreciate such a decisive move, and also The Changes She Enacted. This piddly decision has CYA written all over it. It takes no measure into the talent that chooses to telecommute (using HP IP and modern-technology) into consideration, or their personal investments, and certainly stresses the workforce and pool of talent.
The Clinton administration used Lotus Notes, and none of this was newsworthy. Lotus Notes is a solid database system with excellent replication.
Then the Bush administration came in and ditched Notes for Exchange and made headlines for lost emails and failure to archive; almost as if the crappy Microsoft functionality was desirable for not being up to the task of keeping operable, accurate archives of staff messages.
The current administration uses a Drupal/OpenAtrium intranet with email notification.
Would the cowbell(s) with which you would like to have a private relationship with freely give consent to being muffled, so as not to disturb other people. If so, and no laws are being broken, whatever smokes your shorts buddy.
I haven't seen the show yet, but have heard a little about it. Dr. Who is a sort of time traveling detective, that is apparently victorious once-again having re-released his complete recorded video-taped series for the masses to consume and enjoy; thwarting, for now, his time-traveling enemies. I hope I've accurately understood the gist of this current episode. Long live Dr. Who!
In my mind, where this will have the largest impact, is by reducing local housing pressures; especially local housing inflation.
Amazon is basically doing the same thing using prime real estate in Downtown Seattle. These companies have such a large workforce that comprises such a large part of the surrounding community, stressing daily transportation, or local bandwidth, etc., these same companies have got to be taking the daily lifestyles of their employees, along with the impact onto the community, into consideration as part of the overall plan.
Just to add one more detail to your argument. You write that killing Android on Nokia is what forced Microsoft to just out-right buy Nokia, and that's grounds for legal action. What about not selling the N950 ever, anywhere?
It was the N9/N950 running Meego which is what started the whole burning oil platform memo/argument from Elop. Elop did everything he could to bury that device and the entire team that developed it, because he wanted to sleep with Microsoft so bad, and do an exclusive. Yet the Meego team did deliver and despite Elop it did go on sale, not in the US or EU but only in a few places like Saudi Arabia and South Africa, thanks to Elop. The US and EU countries were only allowed to buy crippled Microsoft Windows Phone 7.8 OS phones; while Microsoft took more time to finish Windows Phone 8 at Nokia's timely expense.
That's a major Osborne directly attributable to Elop.
So yeah, minority partner Microsoft at the behest of former Microsoft manager S. Elop and Nokia CEO does seem to have driven OS choices on multiple occasions. But l forgot until now what a lovely piece of evidence the N950 is. The N950 which wasn't even allowed to be sold, yet was finished and made available for developers. How much money would a wider release of the N9 generated, and ignoring that for a moment, how much revenue would have been generated if the N950 would have gone on sale even if only in the limited markets the N9 was allowed to be sold in? Why wasn't the N950 ever allowed to be sold anywhere? Look for yourself at what a lovely device it is:
How popular would this device have been, along with the N9 given sufficient resources & marketing love? We're talking iPhone and Android killers, because along with features like tethering 3g over low-power bluetooth, and low-power SIP support in the OS, Nokia was way ahead of their time. (disclaimer: I use 3g SIP over bluetooth w/ my N9 w/ Ubuntu 12.04 a lot, and battery life is great).
As long as Stephen Elop was Nokia CEO, Nokia handset division was going to be a 100% Microsoft shop. A real CEO should have remained focused to prior Meego efforts and strategy, and worked to fix problems along those lines.
I dream of Elop defending himself in court against the charges you have suggested, *while* he is active CEO of Microsoft, taking them down with him. (But no way will Bill let him be CEO of Microsoft, because aside from delivering Nokia to him, his actual performance was abysmal).
Yes, but we're talkin' about an $8 dollar a month (estimated international average cost) for a legal all-you-can-eat streaming entertainment service of quality with a pleasant GUI. What exactly is your complaint? You can't keep up with your friends, with regards to the popular culture? Have you tried paying more, as one would assume your friends have been doing?
Yes. We also have an FTC, however they sold out awhile ago. Some people can only dream of SIM. Some people don't even know what economic freedom is made possible by SIM standardization.
In short, the music recording industry may be taking a hit, but the music culture is going through a renaissance.
Yes, from the Point of View of a consumer, that is a desk-based knowledge-worker in I.T. who listens a *lot* this is true, and thank goodness for it! It used to be I'd work all night listening to local FM play the familiar hits. Now, Last.fm recommends based off my scrobbled listening history, plus I can instantly reject what I'd otherwise be stuck with, and quickly move on. And for $3 a month I can remove the commercials.
rtb61's argument is well known, but I'll explain it.
Microsoft owned very little of Nokia prior to the sale.
So you understand this much already, which is good. However you are failing to take into account Stephen Elop who arrived a few years ago, from Microsoft, to become Nokia CEO, and eventually sell Nokia at a greatly reduced price to Microsoft, (which paid for the transaction with offshore profits that couldn't be repatriated into the US easily anyway.
What was the mechanism by which Microsoft got Nokia's board of directors and executives to implement plans to the disadvantage of minority shareholders?
Stephen Elop
For that matter, how were minority shareholders disadvantaged by Nokia not going bankrupt and receiving subsidies from Microsoft followed by a buyout for more than the phone division was worth.
By ditching their own OS efforts, i.e. Meego, and doing an exclusive for Windows Phone which failed dramitically.
Please, let me cite some Stephen Elop CEO facts for you to decide yourself:
NOKIA CORPORATION UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Corporate quarterly revenues up 26% from 10.0B Euro to 12.6B Euro Next 2.5 years - Corporate quarterly revenues down 55% from 12.6B Euro to 5.6B Euro
First 6 months - Corporate quarterly profit up 200% from 295M Euro to 884M Euro Next 2.5 years - Corporate quarterly profit of 884M Euro turned into loss of -115M Euro
During first 6 months - Standard & Poor's rating for Nokia A, Moody's rating A2, Fitch's rating A On last day of office - Standard & Poor's rating for Nokia junk, Moody's rating junk, Fitch's rating junk
On day before Elop announced as new CEO - Nokia share price $9.70 On day before Elop released his Burning Platforms memo - Nokia share price $11.28 (up 16%) On day before Nokia announces Elop to step down as CEO - Nokia share price $3.90 (down 65%)
NOKIA HANDSET UNIT PERFORMANCE UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Handset quarterly revenues up 25% from 6.8B Euro to 8.5B Euro Next 2.5 years - Handset quarterly revenues down 69% from 8.5B Euro to 2.6B Euro
First 6 months - Total handsets profit first 6 months 1.8B Euro Next 2.5 years - Total handsets loss next 2.5 years 361M Euro
First 6 months - North America quarterly handset volume flat from 2.6M units to 2.6M units Next 2.5 years - North America quarterly handset volume down 80% from 2.6M units to 0.5M units
First 6 months - China quarterly handset volume up 13% from 19.3M units to 21.9M units Next 2.5 years - China quarterly handset volume down 81% from 21.9M units to 4.1M units
Nokia handset market share when Elop started - 33% Nokia handset market share when Elop departed - 14%
Nokia ranking handsets when Elop started - 1st Nokia ranking handsets when Elop departed - 2nd
Gap to leader when Elop started - Nokia 50% bigger than number 2 (Samsung) Gap to leader when Elop departed - Samsung 30% bigger than Nokia
This handset unit has now been sold (plus patents and mapping licences) for 5.3B Euro to Microsoft
NOKIA SMARTPHONE DIVISION PERFORMANCE UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly revenues up 29% from 3.4B Euro to 4.4B Euro Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly revenues down 73% from 4.4B Euro to 1.2B Euro
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly profit up 94% from 283M Euro to 548M Euro Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly profit of 548M Euro turned into loss of -168M Euro
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly volume up 18% from 24.0M units to 28.3M units Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly volume down 74% from 28.3M units to 7.4M units
Nokia smartphone market share when Elop started - 35% Nokia smartphone market share when Elop departed - 3%
Nokia ranking smartphones when Elop started - 1st Nokia ranking smartphones when Elop departed - 9th
Reading TFA I understand they are using a mesh of Raspberry Pis that can sense motion and subsequently sending (at-least) a still image to a server somewhere. The same unit is also monitoring sound so the network can triangle gunshots using microphones (for an immediate police response). And obviously these units must be durable and low maintence.
What I'd like to know is how are they drawing power while remaning hidden? It seems solar *has* to be part of the equation, hasn't it? I can't see how they power those rasberry Pis + transmitters.
I've been using that Zalman design for several years already, which was an improvement over the previous Zalman design I was using for the same dusty situation. That is what has worked best for me over time.
However I appreciate the suggestions for water cooling from this thread. I haven't been considering it, and when I did long ago, it was too exotic and pricey, and I was concerned about water-related risks as well.
I was doing some Saturday morning window shopping, and I suppose if I was to buy a new case + cooling comb right this moment, I'd focus on a 140mm exhaust area & water cooling.
I am using Altec Sonata cases which do have a filter on the front, and which I do clean regularly, however this isn't nearly enough for my dusty environment, which is near a major urban intersection of traffic.
The difference between these Zalmon's versus all the other cooler designs is there are no nooks and crannies for the dust to collect into, so a good blast of compressed air will clear the cooler fins and passages.
And yes, those Zalmon blades *are* sharp like knives, so be warned handling them!
Gotta jump in here to say I standardized on this Zalmon radial design several years ago for all my boxes and haven't looked back. The thing for me is dust, which would easily clog all the other coolers reviewed in TFA. Like it or not my PC real estate is dusty! Over the years I've aquired two types of tools to deal with the (serious) problem (very well).
These Zalmon coolers make it realistic to remove the dust. With x-acto knives if necessary, without rebuilding the entire PC. I just open the case regularly to deal with the issue and life is good.
NPR was just doing a similar story about folks who skydive in flying squirrel wingsuits. They say there's no thrill like flying above the earth at well over 100MPH. It is also implied and understood there is no such thing as a do-over either. Life is inherently risky, while risks of death can be a real turn-on for folks.
That price *includes* Windows 8 Pro, 64 bit. It really is an all-in-one, unless you use linux; in which case you might as well build your own from parts that will last longer than this sum total unit.
Looks like the next step will be for MS to just require it on everything, even though it doesn't work.
How many engineers from the Microsoft Corporation does it take to screw in a light bulb?
The answer is zero actually. It doesn't take a single engineer from the Microsoft Corporation, because the Microsoft Corporation simply declares Darkness[tm] to become the new standard.
Also last week NPR did a fair piece on the FWD.us agenda to viscerate the current immigration/H1B discussion; in order to except themselves (as a classic lobbyist move). If I didn't hate Zuckerburg enough before, I certainly do now. He's a freaking zillionaire, while having no concept of actually *working* in the tech field, as a career, and *trying* to grow old in this country while supporting self/family. Yet he's all in favor of rolling over older I.T. workers while importing fresh blood from abroad to support his business, at lower costs.
Miano is a former programmer. Now he's a lawyer who represents displaced tech workers. He blogs for the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that's decidedly right-wing. But for now, groups like this are just about the only ones opposing the increase in tech worker visas. Miano says with tech giants like Facebook teaming up with well-heeled liberal groups, he doubts his views will get much of a hearing on Capitol Hill. Martin Kaste, NPR News.
Kudos to Elon Musk for dropping out of this %$#@! lobbying group. This is just another example of extremely wealthy people working to buy influence with the best government money can buy.
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In an alternate universe, which has Meg Whitman as both the brilliant and reigning Governor of California, I can hear her preach how telecommuting is the answer to global warming and run-away automobile infrastructure costs. Yes, the same Meg Whitman, I can hear her 'doing her job' now; it doesn't seem so unfathomable, you know?
This is the kind of decision-making that earns people of her class millions if not up-front, then at least in out-the-door compensation. Low-risk to her ass, while such a major-change seems both plausible and relatively do-able as she seems to be smart, with no concept or care for how things have actually been done up until now, and the people involved. Hell, Marissa Meyer at Yahoo already has enacted this thinking months ago; and not the freshest of ideas. Meg thinks her bosses on the board will appreciate such a decisive move, and also The Changes She Enacted. This piddly decision has CYA written all over it. It takes no measure into the talent that chooses to telecommute (using HP IP and modern-technology) into consideration, or their personal investments, and certainly stresses the workforce and pool of talent.
The Clinton administration used Lotus Notes, and none of this was newsworthy. Lotus Notes is a solid database system with excellent replication.
Then the Bush administration came in and ditched Notes for Exchange and made headlines for lost emails and failure to archive; almost as if the crappy Microsoft functionality was desirable for not being up to the task of keeping operable, accurate archives of staff messages.
The current administration uses a Drupal/OpenAtrium intranet with email notification.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/04/bush-lost-e-mails/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/08/white-house-memo-no-white-house-email-recovery-this-year/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/02/11/whitehousegov-releases-second-set-open-source-code
Would the cowbell(s) with which you would like to have a private relationship with freely give consent to being muffled, so as not to disturb other people. If so, and no laws are being broken, whatever smokes your shorts buddy.
Happy 1st Monday of October!
I haven't seen the show yet, but have heard a little about it. Dr. Who is a sort of time traveling detective, that is apparently victorious once-again having re-released his complete recorded video-taped series for the masses to consume and enjoy; thwarting, for now, his time-traveling enemies. I hope I've accurately understood the gist of this current episode. Long live Dr. Who!
Watching that video, I can only visualize the jellyfish screams, as they are shredded into a liquid vapor.
However on an evolutionary perspective of food-chain, this might be a local improvement. Robots are good at large-scale gardening.
In my mind, where this will have the largest impact, is by reducing local housing pressures; especially local housing inflation.
Amazon is basically doing the same thing using prime real estate in Downtown Seattle. These companies have such a large workforce that comprises such a large part of the surrounding community, stressing daily transportation, or local bandwidth, etc., these same companies have got to be taking the daily lifestyles of their employees, along with the impact onto the community, into consideration as part of the overall plan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/26/us/as-amazon-stretches-seattles-downtown-is-reshaped.html
Right on. Gnome3 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS FTW!
Just to add one more detail to your argument. You write that killing Android on Nokia is what forced Microsoft to just out-right buy Nokia, and that's grounds for legal action. What about not selling the N950 ever, anywhere?
It was the N9/N950 running Meego which is what started the whole burning oil platform memo/argument from Elop. Elop did everything he could to bury that device and the entire team that developed it, because he wanted to sleep with Microsoft so bad, and do an exclusive. Yet the Meego team did deliver and despite Elop it did go on sale, not in the US or EU but only in a few places like Saudi Arabia and South Africa, thanks to Elop. The US and EU countries were only allowed to buy crippled Microsoft Windows Phone 7.8 OS phones; while Microsoft took more time to finish Windows Phone 8 at Nokia's timely expense.
When the N9 launched, very shortly thereafter Elop even publicly trivialized it by demo'ing a Windows Phone prototype, with his own hands at the Communasia Communications Symposium in Singapore, on June 22, 2011.
http://youtu.be/r1lsJOwdmfA
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2011/jun/23/nokia-n9-windows-phone-tease
That's a major Osborne directly attributable to Elop.
So yeah, minority partner Microsoft at the behest of former Microsoft manager S. Elop and Nokia CEO does seem to have driven OS choices on multiple occasions. But l forgot until now what a lovely piece of evidence the N950 is. The N950 which wasn't even allowed to be sold, yet was finished and made available for developers. How much money would a wider release of the N9 generated, and ignoring that for a moment, how much revenue would have been generated if the N950 would have gone on sale even if only in the limited markets the N9 was allowed to be sold in? Why wasn't the N950 ever allowed to be sold anywhere? Look for yourself at what a lovely device it is:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Nokia-N950-16GB-/171130186470?
How popular would this device have been, along with the N9 given sufficient resources & marketing love? We're talking iPhone and Android killers, because along with features like tethering 3g over low-power bluetooth, and low-power SIP support in the OS, Nokia was way ahead of their time. (disclaimer: I use 3g SIP over bluetooth w/ my N9 w/ Ubuntu 12.04 a lot, and battery life is great).
As long as Stephen Elop was Nokia CEO, Nokia handset division was going to be a 100% Microsoft shop. A real CEO should have remained focused to prior Meego efforts and strategy, and worked to fix problems along those lines.
I dream of Elop defending himself in court against the charges you have suggested, *while* he is active CEO of Microsoft, taking them down with him. (But no way will Bill let him be CEO of Microsoft, because aside from delivering Nokia to him, his actual performance was abysmal).
Yes, but we're talkin' about an $8 dollar a month (estimated international average cost) for a legal all-you-can-eat streaming entertainment service of quality with a pleasant GUI. What exactly is your complaint? You can't keep up with your friends, with regards to the popular culture? Have you tried paying more, as one would assume your friends have been doing?
Yes. We also have an FTC, however they sold out awhile ago. Some people can only dream of SIM. Some people don't even know what economic freedom is made possible by SIM standardization.
You mean Lenny?
http://nerdvittles.com/?p=6762
Yes, from the Point of View of a consumer, that is a desk-based knowledge-worker in I.T. who listens a *lot* this is true, and thank goodness for it! It used to be I'd work all night listening to local FM play the familiar hits. Now, Last.fm recommends based off my scrobbled listening history, plus I can instantly reject what I'd otherwise be stuck with, and quickly move on. And for $3 a month I can remove the commercials.
Mod up informative!
rtb61's argument is well known, but I'll explain it.
So you understand this much already, which is good. However you are failing to take into account Stephen Elop who arrived a few years ago, from Microsoft, to become Nokia CEO, and eventually sell Nokia at a greatly reduced price to Microsoft, (which paid for the transaction with offshore profits that couldn't be repatriated into the US easily anyway.
Stephen Elop
By ditching their own OS efforts, i.e. Meego, and doing an exclusive for Windows Phone which failed dramitically.
Please, let me cite some Stephen Elop CEO facts for you to decide yourself:
NOKIA CORPORATION UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Corporate quarterly revenues up 26% from 10.0B Euro to 12.6B Euro
Next 2.5 years - Corporate quarterly revenues down 55% from 12.6B Euro to 5.6B Euro
First 6 months - Corporate quarterly profit up 200% from 295M Euro to 884M Euro
Next 2.5 years - Corporate quarterly profit of 884M Euro turned into loss of -115M Euro
During first 6 months - Standard & Poor's rating for Nokia A, Moody's rating A2, Fitch's rating A
On last day of office - Standard & Poor's rating for Nokia junk, Moody's rating junk, Fitch's rating junk
On day before Elop announced as new CEO - Nokia share price $9.70
On day before Elop released his Burning Platforms memo - Nokia share price $11.28 (up 16%)
On day before Nokia announces Elop to step down as CEO - Nokia share price $3.90 (down 65%)
NOKIA HANDSET UNIT PERFORMANCE UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Handset quarterly revenues up 25% from 6.8B Euro to 8.5B Euro
Next 2.5 years - Handset quarterly revenues down 69% from 8.5B Euro to 2.6B Euro
First 6 months - Total handsets profit first 6 months 1.8B Euro
Next 2.5 years - Total handsets loss next 2.5 years 361M Euro
First 6 months - North America quarterly handset volume flat from 2.6M units to 2.6M units
Next 2.5 years - North America quarterly handset volume down 80% from 2.6M units to 0.5M units
First 6 months - China quarterly handset volume up 13% from 19.3M units to 21.9M units
Next 2.5 years - China quarterly handset volume down 81% from 21.9M units to 4.1M units
Nokia handset market share when Elop started - 33%
Nokia handset market share when Elop departed - 14%
Nokia ranking handsets when Elop started - 1st
Nokia ranking handsets when Elop departed - 2nd
Gap to leader when Elop started - Nokia 50% bigger than number 2 (Samsung)
Gap to leader when Elop departed - Samsung 30% bigger than Nokia
This handset unit has now been sold (plus patents and mapping licences) for 5.3B Euro to Microsoft
NOKIA SMARTPHONE DIVISION PERFORMANCE UNDER ELOP
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly revenues up 29% from 3.4B Euro to 4.4B Euro
Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly revenues down 73% from 4.4B Euro to 1.2B Euro
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly profit up 94% from 283M Euro to 548M Euro
Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly profit of 548M Euro turned into loss of -168M Euro
First 6 months - Smartphone quarterly volume up 18% from 24.0M units to 28.3M units
Next 2.5 years - Smartphone quarterly volume down 74% from 28.3M units to 7.4M units
Nokia smartphone market share when Elop started - 35%
Nokia smartphone market share when Elop departed - 3%
Nokia ranking smartphones when Elop started - 1st
Nokia ranking smartphones when Elop departed - 9th
Gap to leader when Elop started - twice a
replying to my own post. I see the answer now:
Reading TFA I understand they are using a mesh of Raspberry Pis that can sense motion and subsequently sending (at-least) a still image to a server somewhere. The same unit is also monitoring sound so the network can triangle gunshots using microphones (for an immediate police response). And obviously these units must be durable and low maintence.
What I'd like to know is how are they drawing power while remaning hidden? It seems solar *has* to be part of the equation, hasn't it? I can't see how they power those rasberry Pis + transmitters.
I've been using that Zalman design for several years already, which was an improvement over the previous Zalman design I was using for the same dusty situation. That is what has worked best for me over time.
However I appreciate the suggestions for water cooling from this thread. I haven't been considering it, and when I did long ago, it was too exotic and pricey, and I was concerned about water-related risks as well.
I was doing some Saturday morning window shopping, and I suppose if I was to buy a new case + cooling comb right this moment, I'd focus on a 140mm exhaust area & water cooling.
http://www.maximumpc.com/nzxt_kraken_x40_review
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352029
I am using Altec Sonata cases which do have a filter on the front, and which I do clean regularly, however this isn't nearly enough for my dusty environment, which is near a major urban intersection of traffic.
The difference between these Zalmon's versus all the other cooler designs is there are no nooks and crannies for the dust to collect into, so a good blast of compressed air will clear the cooler fins and passages.
And yes, those Zalmon blades *are* sharp like knives, so be warned handling them!
Gotta jump in here to say I standardized on this Zalmon radial design several years ago for all my boxes and haven't looked back. The thing for me is dust, which would easily clog all the other coolers reviewed in TFA. Like it or not my PC real estate is dusty! Over the years I've aquired two types of tools to deal with the (serious) problem (very well).
Zalmon coolers of this design
http://www.zalman.co.kr/global/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=416
cans of compressed air to blast the cooling fins and:
a Dyson hand-held vacuum!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Dyson%20DC34%20Hand-held%20Vacuum
These Zalmon coolers make it realistic to remove the dust. With x-acto knives if necessary, without rebuilding the entire PC. I just open the case regularly to deal with the issue and life is good.
NPR was just doing a similar story about folks who skydive in flying squirrel wingsuits. They say there's no thrill like flying above the earth at well over 100MPH. It is also implied and understood there is no such thing as a do-over either. Life is inherently risky, while risks of death can be a real turn-on for folks.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/27/215784315/wingsuit-flying-incredible-thrill-but-no-second-chance
I am now imagining the plethora of virtual machines, and I like what I see!
That price *includes* Windows 8 Pro, 64 bit. It really is an all-in-one, unless you use linux; in which case you might as well build your own from parts that will last longer than this sum total unit.
How many engineers from the Microsoft Corporation does it take to screw in a light bulb?
The answer is zero actually. It doesn't take a single engineer from the Microsoft Corporation, because the Microsoft Corporation simply declares Darkness[tm] to become the new standard.
Also last week NPR did a fair piece on the FWD.us agenda to viscerate the current immigration/H1B discussion; in order to except themselves (as a classic lobbyist move). If I didn't hate Zuckerburg enough before, I certainly do now. He's a freaking zillionaire, while having no concept of actually *working* in the tech field, as a career, and *trying* to grow old in this country while supporting self/family. Yet he's all in favor of rolling over older I.T. workers while importing fresh blood from abroad to support his business, at lower costs.
But let's not simply single Mark out. Let's also add LinkedIn's Reid Hoffman, Dropbox's Drew Houston and Yahoo's Marissa Mayer to the list of those supporting FWD.us.
http://www.npr.org/2013/05/09/182516877/facebook-joins-lobby-for-overhauling-immigration
Kudos to Elon Musk for dropping out of this %$#@! lobbying group. This is just another example of extremely wealthy people working to buy influence with the best government money can buy.