I do not need a power plant to power a PDA. There are nuclear power plants, there is solar energy, there are many ways to get energy. Oil will make energy more expensive in the short term but the access to food is a bigger concern than the access to energy. I'll build my own generator and use solar energy if energy is the problem.
What is this irrational nonsense about Africa and how exactly did Africa get involved in the debate about libraries?
It has nothing to do with the majority of people. The majority of people will never step foot into a physics laboratory. But most schools still have one. Strange, huh?
It also has nothing to do with being cool. If there was ever a time when the library was the cool place to hang out, I haven't heard of it.
If you have a "good" culture then you'll consider the library the coolest place to hang out. If you are in college and you don't hang out at the library, perhaps you should spend your time doing something else because thats basically what college is about. You pay to hang out at the library, talk to professors, and maybe occassionally with students. If you go to a college to party, then you are letting your valueable money go to waste and I'm fine with that because its not my money.
Just because you, and some people you know, don't find libraries useful, doesn't mean universities and colleges should get rid of them for everyone. There's still a large number of people, even if they're a minority) who prefer reading books to reading online. I'm thinking about going to graduate school, and not having a traditional library would rule out a school immediately, no questions asks.
If you are going to debate with someone, at least debate things I've actually said. I never said libraries werent useful. I said books arent useful to me personally. I don't have a use for books anymore because I know the technology. I'm posting here on slashdot when I could be reading a book, the newspaper, etc. Why? The internet has more diversity of information. The library has a very restricted westernized style of handling information, a lot of the best information might not be at that specific library you are at, and I doubt you want to travel from library to library looking for that important book.
I don't know about you but all that matters to me is portability and access to information. PDAs are more portable than books, and the internet is a better model of distribution. These are facts and you cannot argue against it.
Show us some of the secret information which cannot be found online. What book is so valueable that I cannot find any information like it on the net.
I can find anything online from programming, to websites on conspiracies. I see more diversity of information on the internet than in any library, and I can access websites from all around the world.
How does a library ever compare to the global noosphere?
How exactly do you read a 500 page book in comfort? The book would be so heavy and ugly that reading it is going to hurt your neck even more then staring at a screen hurts your eyes. Trust me I know from experience, I have never been able to finish a 500 page book.
Tell us why you like how a book feels in your hand. Also tell me why its more important for a book to feel right than to have dozens of books in a PDA?
I honestly don't like reading from a PDA screen, but its a lot lighter than carrying books around.
Whats the point of reading fiction? What exactly are you learning from it?
I can understand people who read to study information for school, or for survival, but why waste valueable time on fiction? If I understood the value of fiction then perhaps I'd care more about books, but honestly in this fast paced competitive world, I do not have time for fiction. So enjoy reading Harry Potter or whatever good fiction books you like to read, I'll keep reading every book I have to read to stay one step ahead of you in the field/classroom, and we will both be happy.
What secret data is in the "literature" that I cannot find on the internet? Show me one book that has information that cannot be found anywhere else that is of vital importance.
The majority of people who are going to the library are just reading what their class or course requires and not much more. The only way for people to actually get educated is for people to have a list of all the best books and the way the library is current set up its impossible to
1. read every single book
2. know which books are the best books
So solve these problems.
Now, BEGIN! You have 10 minutes to respond to this msg with your solution.
I think the online library has to be superior to the physical library. Technically it can but it must be superior in order to be a successful replacement.
Now, if it were superior as the technology says it can be, I'd need a place to hang out and do my readings and this is where the coffeeshop atmosphere makes sense. It's this or Starbucks.
I suppose digital information. Why? When we move information into the digital form its more free. This benefits the world at the cost of bringing competition to the elite.
Give me one reason why I need a physical book to access text that I can more efficiently read from my PDA or my laptop? Just give me one good reason why carrying books is more efficient than carrying a PDA.
Highlight on your PDA, hightlight on your printout of your PDF, when you highlight in library books it annoys anyone who has to read the book after you as much as it annoys people to see pages torn out from the book.
When it comes to reading, I do most of it on the computer, and the majority of people from my generation do most of their reading online. The library just isnt as cool as it once was simply because no one wants books anymore. We outnumber folks like you so if you dont like it, go to Barnes and Nobles or hit up Amazon.
We should have done this 5 years ago. The sooner we move to digital libraries the better, why? Simple. No one likes physical books anymore, they are heavy, they are difficult to store, theres a limited amount of them, and overall people are less likely to read when they have to use the old system.
I think online libraries are the future, and if we really want to help people we should offer free access to these libraries to anyone in the third world with internet access. This is good news folks.
Now the only way to make this better is to allow anyone from any college anywhere in the world to access one giant online library of combined college networks.
Too much emphasis is on math. If we actually targeted language majors, artists and writers you'd most likely get people who learn the language quicker because learning and using language has nothing to do with calculus.
The problem with computer science is the requirements for a computer science degree is based on how well you can solve math problems. Most problems in programming arent math problems, they are just bugs. If we want code with less bugs, and we want high quality code, chances are you wont find it from a math major simply because math and writing are polar opposites, so unless we plan to only recruit from MIT and Caltech where students can do both, we need to have programming in the writing department of school, and have the hardware and engineering in the math department.
This would allow you to educate the writers to code and the mathematicians to handle the problem solving aspect. If you try to train people to do both, you end up with someone mediocre at both.
Java, C, C++, part of writing complex code is learning to think in code, and this may require a basic level of math and logic, but definately not to the level of calculus. How many of you have actually used calculus in your programming?
Bernie Worrell is credited for creating the funkadelic sound using the Moog keyboard. This sound lasted for over 20 years and is now the basis for the funk and R&B genre.
The power of the Moog keyboard is unquestionable when its in the right hands.
There is a documentary about Bernie Worrells work in the industry using this keyboard
Bernie Worrell: Stranger On Earth
--I think you will find that those you might consider the greediest capitalists create more jobs than anyone else. Building large businesses to make me lots of money takes other people.
Yes, this is why the worker must pick only the greedy capitalists which create high paying jobs in North America.
Also for venture capital, investing dollars to build and fund businesses in Africa would be cheap for the average American. Africa needs venture capital, America has deep pockets.
People gain by working smarter not harder. Right now workers arent working in their own best interest in some cases.
Think outside the box for a moment here. A person should live whereever the money is, but we live in a global economy. This means if you make money in Europe on the Euro your money might actually be worth more than the dollar at some point. This money can be used to help build the local community at home. People have been giving money back to their homelands for a while now, why do you think Americans would just abandon everything?
The point is if you are running a business, you'll move to whereever business is and whereever money is. Where you live does not matter anymore, its what you do with your money that matters now, its who you help with your money, and its how you invest. You don't have to give to charity when you can buy stock. You can be a capitalist while also doing good work, its more challenging but it improves peoples live. Right now most capitalists are just making money to make money, if they actually did give back to their communities we would be in a much better state. This does not mean giving back through higher taxes, it means giving back by venture capital.
I do not require money, I fix what I can when I can. I'm guessing a lot off Americans understand that they are their government. When Americans think about war, and collectively want it, the government will make it appear.
The government is owned by the money, the money is owned by the government, and right now the people people who are aware own the government whilee the people who are unaware are owned by it.
Go to a library and you can read up on how things are set up. You don't change the government or the politicians, you start by changing yourself and the people you know. It has the same effect.
You should feel guilty for supporting poverty, war, and for what has been done to the poor. If you do not feel guilty, or any sorta remorse, responsibility, etc, then by this definition you are a psychopath.
Look at Africa? Who is responsible for this? Look at ghettos in the USA and tell me who is responsible? Lets look at the native Americans, who is responsible?
If Americans are not psychopaths, when is it going to be time to take responsibility and fix these problems? They wont fix themselves, and even if you did not create them yourself, you benefit from its existance.
If we arent psychopaths, ok, lets actually discuss how to help Africa, lets actually trade with Africa. Let's actually rebuild ghettos in this country instead of just watching it on MTV. Why should we accept such low standards when we could do better? We are the richest country in the world, the least we could do is have a country with no ghettos. We might not be able to save Africa all by ourselves, but if we actually traded with Africa like we trade with Europe then perhaps Africa wouldnt be starving to death. Fair trade.
It's not a difficult problem to solve, its not an expensive problem to solve, and in the long term it helps the economy to put the poor to work. Putting the poor in prisons and robbing them of jobs is not only cruel, its illogical.
Why should the USA be outsourcing labor when we can just hire all these people living in ghettos to build stuff? Let's hire them to build the fiber optic internet accross the country. Let's build new trains, lets build stuff, it might cost money to build but it will pay for itself.
It has nothing to do with politics, you could be a conservative and not be a racist, and actually care about the poor. Jesus Christ himself cared about the poor, Jesus Christ was not hanging with the romans and saying let the poor starve to death.
400 billion on war. Hundreds of billions on the Iraq war alone, so I don't even want to hear the petty excuse that we don't have enough money to fix America's problems when we are spending it on fixing Iraq's problems.
You can at least pay for our healthcare. We have to pay for your wars to protect your special interests? The least you could do is protect the people who pay for these wars. DO you care about the soldiers? Do you care about the health of America? Do you care about the old?
Just come out and admit you don't care, just be brave and say it. Why argue with me about how healthcare is bad, and how the poor should take care of themselves, when you want to just say you don't care? Just come out and say it, you don't care about the soldiers or the workers. If you don't care then yes, Social Security, Universal Healthcare, and Economic Security are all meaningless. If you want America to be the strongest then you also want America to be the healthiest, most happy, more economically secure nation on earth.
Don't worry, I'll leave America and move to a country that cares, along with the rest of the people who think like me, and you'll have your survival of the fittest world you desire. Good luck.
None of us like to be treated like machines. Bosses don't, People dont. So why should we create a culture or a workplace which values people are machines?
If we treat people as people, they'll be more loyal, they'll work longer hours because they won't mind it, and they'll ultimately be more productive.
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I talk to females, I learn, I study, I work, I eat and I sleep. I do not have time for games, life is competitive and America has no time for losers.
So my entertainment is my work and my work is my entertainment. Does this answer your question?
I do not need a power plant to power a PDA. There are nuclear power plants, there is solar energy, there are many ways to get energy. Oil will make energy more expensive in the short term but the access to food is a bigger concern than the access to energy. I'll build my own generator and use solar energy if energy is the problem.
What is this irrational nonsense about Africa and how exactly did Africa get involved in the debate about libraries?
It has nothing to do with the majority of people. The majority of people will never step foot into a physics laboratory. But most schools still have one. Strange, huh?
It also has nothing to do with being cool. If there was ever a time when the library was the cool place to hang out, I haven't heard of it.
If you have a "good" culture then you'll consider the library the coolest place to hang out. If you are in college and you don't hang out at the library, perhaps you should spend your time doing something else because thats basically what college is about. You pay to hang out at the library, talk to professors, and maybe occassionally with students. If you go to a college to party, then you are letting your valueable money go to waste and I'm fine with that because its not my money.
Just because you, and some people you know, don't find libraries useful, doesn't mean universities and colleges should get rid of them for everyone. There's still a large number of people, even if they're a minority) who prefer reading books to reading online. I'm thinking about going to graduate school, and not having a traditional library would rule out a school immediately, no questions asks.
If you are going to debate with someone, at least debate things I've actually said. I never said libraries werent useful. I said books arent useful to me personally. I don't have a use for books anymore because I know the technology. I'm posting here on slashdot when I could be reading a book, the newspaper, etc. Why? The internet has more diversity of information. The library has a very restricted westernized style of handling information, a lot of the best information might not be at that specific library you are at, and I doubt you want to travel from library to library looking for that important book.
I don't know about you but all that matters to me is portability and access to information. PDAs are more portable than books, and the internet is a better model of distribution. These are facts and you cannot argue against it.
Show us some of the secret information which cannot be found online. What book is so valueable that I cannot find any information like it on the net.
I can find anything online from programming, to websites on conspiracies. I see more diversity of information on the internet than in any library, and I can access websites from all around the world.
How does a library ever compare to the global noosphere?
How exactly do you read a 500 page book in comfort? The book would be so heavy and ugly that reading it is going to hurt your neck even more then staring at a screen hurts your eyes. Trust me I know from experience, I have never been able to finish a 500 page book.
Tell us why you like how a book feels in your hand. Also tell me why its more important for a book to feel right than to have dozens of books in a PDA?
I honestly don't like reading from a PDA screen, but its a lot lighter than carrying books around.
I don't think electricity will be our problem. We will sooner run out of oil.
Maybe we should all be learning all we can about science so we can survive peakoil. Hit the libraries!
Whats the point of reading fiction? What exactly are you learning from it?
I can understand people who read to study information for school, or for survival, but why waste valueable time on fiction? If I understood the value of fiction then perhaps I'd care more about books, but honestly in this fast paced competitive world, I do not have time for fiction. So enjoy reading Harry Potter or whatever good fiction books you like to read, I'll keep reading every book I have to read to stay one step ahead of you in the field/classroom, and we will both be happy.
What secret data is in the "literature" that I cannot find on the internet? Show me one book that has information that cannot be found anywhere else that is of vital importance.
The majority of people who are going to the library are just reading what their class or course requires and not much more. The only way for people to actually get educated is for people to have a list of all the best books and the way the library is current set up its impossible to
1. read every single book
2. know which books are the best books
So solve these problems.
Now, BEGIN! You have 10 minutes to respond to this msg with your solution.
I think the online library has to be superior to the physical library. Technically it can but it must be superior in order to be a successful replacement.
Now, if it were superior as the technology says it can be, I'd need a place to hang out and do my readings and this is where the coffeeshop atmosphere makes sense. It's this or Starbucks.
I suppose digital information. Why? When we move information into the digital form its more free. This benefits the world at the cost of bringing competition to the elite.
Give me one reason why I need a physical book to access text that I can more efficiently read from my PDA or my laptop? Just give me one good reason why carrying books is more efficient than carrying a PDA.
Highlight on your PDA, hightlight on your printout of your PDF, when you highlight in library books it annoys anyone who has to read the book after you as much as it annoys people to see pages torn out from the book.
When it comes to reading, I do most of it on the computer, and the majority of people from my generation do most of their reading online. The library just isnt as cool as it once was simply because no one wants books anymore. We outnumber folks like you so if you dont like it, go to Barnes and Nobles or hit up Amazon.
We should have done this 5 years ago. The sooner we move to digital libraries the better, why? Simple. No one likes physical books anymore, they are heavy, they are difficult to store, theres a limited amount of them, and overall people are less likely to read when they have to use the old system.
I think online libraries are the future, and if we really want to help people we should offer free access to these libraries to anyone in the third world with internet access. This is good news folks.
Now the only way to make this better is to allow anyone from any college anywhere in the world to access one giant online library of combined college networks.
It's simple, if you want to compete with google for engineering talent, pay more money for talent. If you don't have as much money as good, too bad.
Hey fellow engineers, looks like we can raise our prices!
Too much emphasis is on math. If we actually targeted language majors, artists and writers you'd most likely get people who learn the language quicker because learning and using language has nothing to do with calculus.
The problem with computer science is the requirements for a computer science degree is based on how well you can solve math problems. Most problems in programming arent math problems, they are just bugs. If we want code with less bugs, and we want high quality code, chances are you wont find it from a math major simply because math and writing are polar opposites, so unless we plan to only recruit from MIT and Caltech where students can do both, we need to have programming in the writing department of school, and have the hardware and engineering in the math department.
This would allow you to educate the writers to code and the mathematicians to handle the problem solving aspect. If you try to train people to do both, you end up with someone mediocre at both.
Java, C, C++, part of writing complex code is learning to think in code, and this may require a basic level of math and logic, but definately not to the level of calculus. How many of you have actually used calculus in your programming?
Why is that bad? Just do something which wouldnt be profitable for Google. Invent a new industry.
We could use a group search feature. If we all are talking via IM why not let one person search and have everyone access the results?
Bernie Worrell is credited for creating the funkadelic sound using the Moog keyboard. This sound lasted for over 20 years and is now the basis for the funk and R&B genre. The power of the Moog keyboard is unquestionable when its in the right hands. There is a documentary about Bernie Worrells work in the industry using this keyboard Bernie Worrell: Stranger On Earth
--I think you will find that those you might consider the greediest capitalists create more jobs than anyone else. Building large businesses to make me lots of money takes other people.
Yes, this is why the worker must pick only the greedy capitalists which create high paying jobs in North America.
Also for venture capital, investing dollars to build and fund businesses in Africa would be cheap for the average American. Africa needs venture capital, America has deep pockets.
People gain by working smarter not harder. Right now workers arent working in their own best interest in some cases.
We are our own god. Or at least thats what science proves.
Think outside the box for a moment here. A person should live whereever the money is, but we live in a global economy. This means if you make money in Europe on the Euro your money might actually be worth more than the dollar at some point. This money can be used to help build the local community at home. People have been giving money back to their homelands for a while now, why do you think Americans would just abandon everything?
The point is if you are running a business, you'll move to whereever business is and whereever money is. Where you live does not matter anymore, its what you do with your money that matters now, its who you help with your money, and its how you invest. You don't have to give to charity when you can buy stock. You can be a capitalist while also doing good work, its more challenging but it improves peoples live. Right now most capitalists are just making money to make money, if they actually did give back to their communities we would be in a much better state. This does not mean giving back through higher taxes, it means giving back by venture capital.
people who dont care, they require money.
I do not require money, I fix what I can when I can. I'm guessing a lot off Americans understand that they are their government. When Americans think about war, and collectively want it, the government will make it appear.
The government is owned by the money, the money is owned by the government, and right now the people people who are aware own the government whilee the people who are unaware are owned by it.
Go to a library and you can read up on how things are set up. You don't change the government or the politicians, you start by changing yourself and the people you know. It has the same effect.
You should feel guilty for supporting poverty, war, and for what has been done to the poor. If you do not feel guilty, or any sorta remorse, responsibility, etc, then by this definition you are a psychopath.
Look at Africa? Who is responsible for this? Look at ghettos in the USA and tell me who is responsible? Lets look at the native Americans, who is responsible?
If Americans are not psychopaths, when is it going to be time to take responsibility and fix these problems? They wont fix themselves, and even if you did not create them yourself, you benefit from its existance.
If we arent psychopaths, ok, lets actually discuss how to help Africa, lets actually trade with Africa. Let's actually rebuild ghettos in this country instead of just watching it on MTV. Why should we accept such low standards when we could do better? We are the richest country in the world, the least we could do is have a country with no ghettos. We might not be able to save Africa all by ourselves, but if we actually traded with Africa like we trade with Europe then perhaps Africa wouldnt be starving to death. Fair trade.
It's not a difficult problem to solve, its not an expensive problem to solve, and in the long term it helps the economy to put the poor to work. Putting the poor in prisons and robbing them of jobs is not only cruel, its illogical.
Why should the USA be outsourcing labor when we can just hire all these people living in ghettos to build stuff? Let's hire them to build the fiber optic internet accross the country. Let's build new trains, lets build stuff, it might cost money to build but it will pay for itself.
It has nothing to do with politics, you could be a conservative and not be a racist, and actually care about the poor. Jesus Christ himself cared about the poor, Jesus Christ was not hanging with the romans and saying let the poor starve to death.
400 billion on war. Hundreds of billions on the Iraq war alone, so I don't even want to hear the petty excuse that we don't have enough money to fix America's problems when we are spending it on fixing Iraq's problems.
We have the money.
You can at least pay for our healthcare. We have to pay for your wars to protect your special interests? The least you could do is protect the people who pay for these wars. DO you care about the soldiers? Do you care about the health of America? Do you care about the old?
Just come out and admit you don't care, just be brave and say it. Why argue with me about how healthcare is bad, and how the poor should take care of themselves, when you want to just say you don't care? Just come out and say it, you don't care about the soldiers or the workers. If you don't care then yes, Social Security, Universal Healthcare, and Economic Security are all meaningless. If you want America to be the strongest then you also want America to be the healthiest, most happy, more economically secure nation on earth.
Don't worry, I'll leave America and move to a country that cares, along with the rest of the people who think like me, and you'll have your survival of the fittest world you desire. Good luck.
None of us like to be treated like machines. Bosses don't, People dont. So why should we create a culture or a workplace which values people are machines?
If we treat people as people, they'll be more loyal, they'll work longer hours because they won't mind it, and they'll ultimately be more productive.