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Synthesizer Pioneer Bob Moog Dies

Sigalarm writes "CNN is reporting that synthesizer pioneer and all-around vanguard of electronic music Bob Moog has passed away at age 71. Dr. Moog built his first electronic instrument -- the theremin -- at age 14 and made the MiniMoog, 'the first compact, easy-to-use synthesizer,' in 1964. He was the first to bring the electronic synthesizer within reach of most musicians, and his MiniMoog is still highly praised and often emulated, to this day."

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  1. Moog Archives by bigwavejas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since Moogmusic is ./'d to hell, try Moonarchives

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    1. Re:Moog Archives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      try Moonarchives [moogarchives.com]
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    2. Re:Moog Archives by Seumas · · Score: 0, Troll

      The passing of a BM is always sad. :(

    3. Re:Moog Archives by Basehart · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is a very sad day indeed.

      Bob's musical instruments not only helped create the electronic music genre but also subtly changed many other musical genres.

      With the introduction of ever more powerful instruments you'd be hard pressed to turn on the radio and not hear a synthesizer of one form or another in the mix.

      There's an interview with Bob here which is also mirrored here

    4. Re:Moog Archives by pjwhite · · Score: 3, Informative

      Many nice tributes to Bob can be found in the guestbook at CaringBridge. I was especially impressed to see a recent entry from Isao Tomita, a true pioneer from the early days of electronic music.

    5. Re:Moog Archives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      MOOG dead. OOG sad. OOG break some skull

    6. Re:Moog Archives by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Oh, right. This Moog guy invents electronic(a) music and *I'm* the troll.

    7. Re:Moog Archives by bani · · Score: 2, Interesting
      a lot of artists are indebted to moog:

      Isao Tomita:
      SUNDAY, AUGUST 21, 2005 06:56 PM CDT
       
      Dear Dr. Moog,
       
      This is from Isao Tomita. I was shocked by the news from Roland that you are in the hospital. I am very much anxious for your quick recovery.
       
      In 1972, even before the release of my first album from RCA Records, I made a visit to MOOG Factory in Buffalo with my friend interpreter, Mr. Ayugai, and had a chance to show my recorded tape to you. I had already purchased MOOG III through Japanese Trading company, but a large synthesizer was completely new in Japan then, and there were no one to tell me how to use it. I performed with my own way of trial-and-error method.
       
      This truned out to be a good result. I still remember clearly your word. You said "This is the expression by MOOG III nobody has ever made."
       
      Soon after my visit, RCA Records decided to release the series of my work.
            "Snowflakes Are Dancing: The Newest Debussy"
            "Moussorgsky:Pictures At an Exhibition"
            "The Planets"
      All three above were listed on top (No.1) of Billboard Classical Chart.
       
      I owe you for MOOG III which brought me a success, and further more your contribution to the developement of electronic instrument is highly noted and innumerable musicians in the world have received the benefit.
       
      I do wish and pray for your quick recovery.
       
      Isao Tomita
      suzanne ciani:
      MONDAY, AUGUST 22, 2005 02:09 PM CDT
      Dear Bob,
      You live on in the hearts of all of those who
      have known and loved you. And when we pass,
      you will live in history. Thank-you for being a part of my life in so many ways. I will miss you.
      Suzanne Ciani

      Suzanne Ciani
      Bolinas, CA
      United States


      steve vai:
      MONDAY, AUGUST 22, 2005 04:45 PM CDT
       
      I still remember clearly the day my older keyboard-playing friend showed me his MiniMoog. I was so blown away. This was probably 1980 or 81. I was really young and this guy really helped me understand the huge opportunities synthesizers offered. Eventually, he let me borrow this machine for lengthy periods of time, including some blank template pages for me to create my own sounds!
       
      We will miss you Bob. Go with God.
       
      steve vai
      Larry Fast:
      SUNDAY, AUGUST 07, 2005 12:28 PM CDT
      Bob,
       
      You've been an absolute inspiration to me in using electrical engineering as a truly creative art from. Without your contributions to our world, my career as an electronic composer would have been far more difficult. You brought that "synergy" to my twin loves of creative electronic design and music creation. It has been an honor knowing you for over 30 years.
       
      Keep up the good fight.
       
      with all best wishes,
       
      Larry Fast lfast@synergy-emusic.com
      Hans Zimmer:
      SATURDAY, AUGUST 20, 2005 05:40 AM CDT
       
      Dear Dr.Moog.
       
      My thoughts and prayers are with you and your loved ones. I would never have been able to turn my dreams into reality had you not first given us yours. I:d just like to take this opportunity to add my name to this list and thank you for all that you made possible.
       
      sincerely,
       
      Hans Zimmer
      there are many others, these are the ones i was able to find quickly.
    8. Re:Moog Archives by Atsi+Otani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think this one would be pretty obvious, too...

      Keith Emerson


      ...Well, Bob, it's not the end of the world. As you created my sound with your creation, I will continue to define it with my definition... God Willing!

      sincerely,

      August 22, 2005

      I play keyboards and synthesizers and am sure that the musical world would be different without what Bob Moog created. He may be gone, but his technology will continue to help musicians create new music for a long, long time. Thanks, Bob Moog!

  2. What was he thinking.. by frinkacheese · · Score: 1

    about how his idea has developed. Moving from valve oscilators and mixers to digital music synthesizers and samplers...

    1. Re:What was he thinking.. by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 2, Informative

      Moving from valve oscilators and mixers to digital music synthesizers and samplers...

      He was thinking "...and back". Lots of contemporary electronica/trip hop bands actually use analog synthesizers (Moog included) for many reasons. If you don't understand these reasons, just listen to groups such as Air.

    2. Re:What was he thinking.. by Atsi+Otani · · Score: 1

      Actually, most digital music synthesizers (romplers) and samplers aren't that different from Moog synths. Modern synths usually have a ton of effects and use sampled waveforms instead of analog saw waves, square waves, sine waves, etc., but the way they shape sounds (filters, modulation) are pretty similar.

      I think he would have been be more dissapointed with the way a lot of keyboard players use synths as sample playback machines and don't create their own sounds. However, I think this was partially because of the Yamaha DX7, which was extremely unpredictable when editing sounds. I heard that Yamaha made a lot of money by selling ROM cartridges with new patches.

  3. Pronunciation by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Informative

    FYI, proper pronunciaction of Moog is 'Moag', like 'moat' with a 'g', and not like 'Moo'-g, like a cow would say it.

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    1. Re:Pronunciation by juangonzo · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's how his name is pronounced. He has stated that his products can be pronounced either way but he likes the way that sounds like a cow better.

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    2. Re:Pronunciation by EatAtJoes · · Score: 1

      Does that mean the great stomp boxes he recently designed should be called MoagerFoager?

      I always wondered if he actually cared how people pronounced the names of his synths. Until I learned the correct pronounciation of his name, I always felt moooooog was a great name for something that went mooooooooooooo (at least on a square wave).

    3. Re:Pronunciation by deliciousmonster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cows' hooves and somewhat awkward purchase prevent them from playing instruments requiring greater dexterity than, say, a drum- and usually a timpany drum at that. As such, the odds that they need to pronouce Moog at all are slim, making your point... wait for it... moot at best.

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    4. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and not like 'Moo'-g, like a cow would say it.

      Actually, I'm pretty sure cows say everything like 'moo' so that might not be very helpful. ;D

    5. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      not like 'Moo'-g, like a cow would say it.
      Only English speaking cows. For example the Dutch ones go "Boo."
    6. Re:Pronunciation by justforaday · · Score: 1

      No wonder I'm so afraid of Dutch cows...

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    7. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mooooooogh!

    8. Re:Pronunciation by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Funny
      Oh thank god. I prefer Moo-g, but the geek in me wants to be a know-it-all pedantic stickler for language. So now I know enough correct to get me uninvited to any future party!

      "Yes, the name is pronounced Moag, but Mr. Moag has said that his instruments can be pronounced either way..."

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    9. Re:Pronunciation by lupinstel · · Score: 0

      I think a better way to describe the pronounciation would be to pronounce it like "rogue".

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    10. Re:Pronunciation by nappingcracker · · Score: 1

      better yet:
       
      like 'mogul' (A very rich or powerful person; a magnate; series of bumps you ski over)

      or

      'vogue' (prevailing fashion, practice, or style)

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    11. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I've seen the likes of the grammar police but now we have the pronunciation police?? Pretty odd considering you can not hear me pronouncing the word in my head from where you are.
      Next up, the color correctness police that have a constant need to remind us wiht charts and graphs about proper gamma correction and color temperature. ;)

    12. Re:Pronunciation by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 1

      If I may interject some friendly debate, I have been lead to believe (perhaps correctly, perhaps incorrectly) that the pronunciation is similar to "dog" or "log." I welcome a confirmation of either.

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    13. Re:Pronunciation by Gropo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man... You don't want to screw with the Dutch and their proper noun pronounciations. M-oh-g was playing with fijr on that one.

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    14. Re:Pronunciation by hitchhikerjim · · Score: 1

      If I recall correctly, at a demo he did just after the NAMM where he introduced them, I heard him pronounce them just that way -- MoagerFoager.

      But he was a practical person. I suspect he didn't care how you pronounced them as long as you bought and used them.

    15. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just some good ol' karma whoring from the GP.

    16. Re:Pronunciation by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      You got it backwards according to wikipedia.

    17. Re:Pronunciation by corpsiclex · · Score: 3, Informative
      Uh, no..you got it backwards. Here is the correct quote:
      Vermont Review: First off: Does your name rhyme with "vogue" or is like a Cow's "moo" plus a "G" at the end?
      Dr. Robert Moog: It rhymes with vogue. That is the usual German pronunciation. My father's grandfather came from Marburg, Germany. I like the way that pronunciation sounds better than the way the cow's 'moo-g' sounds.
      sources: http://members.tripod.com/vermontreview/Interviews /moog.htm
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Moog
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    18. Re:Pronunciation by juangonzo · · Score: 1

      I wish I had a source for it. However, I think I read it in a magazine that's now out of business (musician magazine). The wiki article doesn't really contradict what I said though. His name is pronounced like vogue and his instruments are pronounced however you want.

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    19. Re:Pronunciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The wiki article doesn't really contradict what I said though"

      Oh really?

      You:

      "He has stated that his products can be pronounced either way but he likes the way that sounds like a cow better."

      Dr. Moog:

      It rhymes with vogue. That is the usual German pronunciation. My father's grandfather came from Marburg, Germany. I like the way that pronunciation sounds better than the way the cow's "moo-g" sounds.

    20. Re:Pronunciation by Insensitive_Claudio · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they actually had an instrument called the Moog Rogue. Pronouncing it Moo-g would have thrown off that clever little moniker.

    21. Re:Pronunciation by thesymbolicfrog · · Score: 1

      Moag has re-entered the Source Stone... HSHSHHSHHS!

    22. Re:Pronunciation by unitron · · Score: 1

      Since somebody beat me to the father of Worf joke I'll just observe that no matter which way you pronounce it, it needs more cowbell.

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  4. Haunted House by kevin_conaway · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where would haunted houses be without the theramin?

    And where would boardwalks be without haunted houses? Childhood as we know it would collapse.

    1. Re:Haunted House by Eggman27 · · Score: 5, Informative

      FYI, Bob didn't invent the theremin, but rather it was his work building and marketing them that led to his innovation of the modern synthesizer.

    2. Re:Haunted House by itomato · · Score: 1

      You insensitive clod, we know nothing of haunted childhood boardwalks.

      Twilight Zone reruns OTOH...

      BTW - Bob didn't invent the Theremin, it was Lev Sergeivitch Termen (later Leon Theremin)

    3. Re:Haunted House by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 3, Funny

      When it happens, I'll blame those meddling kids.

    4. Re:Haunted House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The theremin wasn't invented by Bob Moog, he just built one when he was 14.

      A russian, Lev Sergeyevich Termen (Leon Theremin) invented the theremin in 1919, 45 years before the Moog prototype was made.

    5. Re:Haunted House by colmore · · Score: 1

      Ok, Mr. Know it all, who invented the Theremin then? Betcha don't know that one!

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    6. Re:Haunted House by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Leon Theremin. Says so in the post just above yours.

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  5. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll have to listen to all my Wendy Carlos CD's that are encoded on my iPod in a memoriam.

  6. God Speed, Bob... by Eggman27 · · Score: 1

    My music technology professor knew (and worked with, I think) Bob... He's got a signed picture from Bob from the 70s in the teaching lab at the music school.

    1. Re:God Speed, Bob... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always wondered this, maybe you can clarify:

      Is godspeed really fast (because He is omnipotent and can produce miracles in fractions of a second), or is it really slow (because He is ageless, has all the time in the universe, and doesn't need to be rushed)?

      Just curious. thanks.

    2. Re:God Speed, Bob... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      David Borden?

    3. Re:God Speed, Bob... by unitron · · Score: 1
      "Is godspeed really fast (because He is omnipotent and can produce miracles in fractions of a second), or is it really slow (because He is ageless, has all the time in the universe, and doesn't need to be rushed)?"

      Perhaps it really means "May you make good speed" in a sort of reverse of how "May God be with you" turned into "Goodbye", but I've always understood it to mean "May God speed you on your way (and watch over you and protect you throughout the journey)" (in the nice sense, not the "I hope God gets you out of here in a hurry" sense).

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    4. Re:God Speed, Bob... by Eggman27 · · Score: 1

      William Purse, Duquesne University.

  7. Damn sad day... by Phil+John · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...a pioneer in the truest sense of the word. I found out he had a brain tumour a few weeks ago. Hope he died surrounded by friends and family.

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  8. RIP Bob by Bjimba · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a tribute, I'm queueing up one of the first mainstream albums to use a Moog: The Beatles' "Abbey Road".

    So long, and thanks for all the samples!

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    1. Re:RIP Bob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That better not be an illegal mp3 version! Think of the children!

    2. Re:RIP Bob by femto · · Score: 1
      Small point. Moog synthesisers are analog and produce their sound 'from scratch'. There are no samples involved. (In the time domain at least.) To quote Moog
      "Synthesizers (at least Moog synthesizers) do NOT use manufactured effects and they do NOT use pre-recorded samples."

      I think you will find that the first digital sampling synthesiser was the Fairlight.

      The first analog sampling synthesiser was the Mellotron.

      Anyone know what the first digital synthesiser was?

      That covers both meanings of "sample", as in a short sound or a single data point of a digital sequence.

    3. Re:RIP Bob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first digital polysynth was the RMI Keyboard Computer, in '74. The first truly affordable one would probably be the ubiquitous Yamaha DX-7 which came out in '83.

      I don't know what the first digital monosynth was. Anybody else?

    4. Re:RIP Bob by wulfhound · · Score: 1

      Generally the Yamaha DX-series (particularly the DX-1 and the hugely popular DX-7) from about '83 are considered the first digital synthesizers, tho there are various hybrids (microprocessor controlled analog synths with some digital components to the oscillators and envelope generators) and lab prototypes (first digital synth prototypes probably existed around 1974) before that.

    5. Re:RIP Bob by rekoil · · Score: 1

      That would be the PPG Wave, although I believe only the oscillators were digital; the filters were still analog.

    6. Re:RIP Bob by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1
      Anyone know what the first digital synthesiser was?
      The first actually successful digital synthesizer was actually the Fairlight CMI - yes, I know it was a sampler too, but it started life as a digital synthesizer. The "real" first digital synth may have been the Quasar I in 1975, the predecessor of the Fairlight.


      That said, EMS had a digital oscillator bank in the early 1970s at the Putney studio. It formed part of a huge 60-channel vocoder controlled by a PDP-8, among other things.

    7. Re:RIP Bob by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      The DX-1 was manufactured in 1985, and only 140 of them were made. The DX-7 came out in 1983, the result of research into digital synthesis that Yamaha had been conducting since the late 1970's. If I recall correctly, Yamaha licensed the theoretical implementation of FM synthesis from a university and made it a practical reality.

    8. Re:RIP Bob by chefren · · Score: 1

      Anyone know what the first digital synthesiser was?

      I don't know if Erkki Kurenniemis DIMI-A from 1969 was the first and how much of it was actually digital but here is some info grabbed from the net:

      "Erkki Kurenniemi [b. 1941] was the key figure during the early years of Finnish electronic music. He built the Helsinki University's electronic studio and started voluntary work during 1961-62. Kurenniemi was a physicist, but a strong interest in electronic music and electronic instruments took him into the music world. When he was a young student, he had an electronic studio at the school's organ balcony for a short time, where he made some experiments with his schoolmates during the late 50's. But his dream of a real studio came true a few years later when he was offered the chance to build the university's studio. Serious work started and little by little his self-made equipment was ready and studio work could commence.

      From the beginning of 1963 other composers started to visit and work at the studio. At a very early stage [in early 1960s], Kurenniemi decided to use digital technology in his electronic instruments. Another basic idea was to think of the whole studio as a one big instrument and to develop it technically in the direction where it would be possible to play the studio in real-time. In fact his composition On-Off was played in real time for the tape. During the recording process he controlled all tape machines, sound sources and effects himself.

      Kurenniemi worked at the university studio until the end of the decade, when he left to found his company Digelius Electronics Ltd to build and market his own original electronic instruments. At the top of the Kurenniemi's design line were DIMI-series [Digital Music Instrument] synthesizers. DIMI-A [1969] was controlled and played by an 'electric pen'; DIMI-E ['electroencephalophone', 1970] by electrodies connected to a human head, reading brainwaves; DIMI-S ['sexophone', 1971] by sensors attached to the arm, reading electrical chances from the skin.

      The most interesting of Kurenniemi's digital instruments is DIMI-O [1971], a video-synthesizer. By using a video camera and monitor, all moving video images could be converted to electronic music by this device. He organized concerts where DIMI-O was controlled by a dancer's movements or a symphony orchestra conductor's hand moves. He also did an 11-minute long film DIMI Ballet [1971], in English, where he demonstrates the capabilities of DIMI-O video-synthesizer with the help of a dancer. The film is one of the first works in the field of interactive video art.

      It should also be mentioned that all of Kurenniemi's electronic instruments still exist and still function. Kurenniemi also created the first commercially manufactured and marketed microcomputer in 1973 (two years before the American MITS Altair), and during late 70's worked with robotics. Later on he became interested in Artificial Intelligence and since the 90's has worked as a researcher/coordinator at the Heureka Science Museum. Recently he finished a manuscript for the book about his theory of music harmony, which mathematically proves a totally new perspective on the subject.

      As was previously mentioned, On-Off [1963] was composed in real-time at the Helsinki University's electronic studio. Kurenniemi has stated that the name and the character of the work is connected to the acoustic experience of the power-station's generator-hall."

  9. The server seems getting slower, so... by rd4tech · · Score: 4, Informative

    The following is link from his biography on the same website:

    The Man Behind the Machines

    What would the world of modern music be like without the inventions of Bob Moog? One answer would be: very boring. Bob Moog's namesake analog synthesizers have affected popular music in ways he might not have expected back in 1954 when he began building theremins with his father. But 50 years later, Bob's musical instruments have catapulted so many styles of music into the future, and his contributions to both players and technicians grow even more profound in retrospect.

    Where would R&B, rap and hip-hop be if groups like Parliament and Funkadelic hadn't used Moog keyboards? Where would rock and roll be if groups from Yes to the Beatles hadn't used Moog keyboards? Would jazz music have branched off into fusion without Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea using Moog keyboards? And would classical music have enjoyed such resurgence without Wendy Carlos and her modular Moog synthesizer? The questions are hypothetical, of course, because synthesizers have infiltrated every style of music, and so many companies have tried to recreate that analog sound. But above all the copycats and spin-offs, it always comes back to one name: Moog.

    After ten years of making theremins, providing unearthly sounds to science fiction movies and avante garde musicians, Bob Moog met experimental composer Herbert Deutsch, whose search for electronic sounds inspired Bob to create the first Moog Modular Synthesizer. Though Bob took on the project just for fun, when he premiered it at the Audio Engineering Society Convention in October of 1964 the response was immediate and Bob started taking orders on the spot. By the time he received a graduate degree (PhD in Engineering Physics, Cornell University) in the summer of 1965, the R. A. Moog Co. had delivered several modular synthesizer systems, mostly to academic and experimental composers. But it would be a few years later when public awareness of Moog synthesizers would leap ahead beneath the nimble fingers of Wendy Carlos.
    Carlos' renowned album "Switched-On Bach" was released on Columbia Records at the
    end of 1968, achieving immediate success. The album went on to sell over a million copies, creating a sharp demand for Moog modular synthesizers throughout 1969 and early 1970. Many "switched-on" records were produced during that period. By the end of 1970, the now incorporated R. A. Moog Inc. introduced the Minimoog®, a compact performance synthesizer based on the technology of Moog modular products, enabling keyboardists to take the Moog on the road. And that began a decade of music that would be forever altered by the Minimoog and its incomparable sounds.

    R. A. Moog Inc. officially changed its name to Moog Music Inc. in 1971 and became a division of the now defunct Norlin Music in 1973. Moog synthesizers were widely used by professional musicians and the "Sound of the Moog" became an integral part of our musical culture. The list of songs is far too long to print here, but from rock to R&B, from jazz to classical music, the Moog sounds were everywhere.

    At the end of 1977, Bob left Moog Music and in 1978 founded Big Briar for the purpose of developing and building electronic musical instruments with novel player interfaces. Actual Moog keyboards were made for the better part of the next decade by Norlin Music, but with the heart and soul of Moog gone, Moog keyboards ceased production by 1986. Though gone from his namesake company, Bob's interest in synthesizers and instruments could not be quelled. From 1978 to 1992, Bob operated Big Briar on a small scale and kept building custom instruments. He was also representing Synton, a Dutch manufacturer of modular equipment, and providing consultation services to other music technology manufacturers. In addition, Bob served as Kurzweil Music Systems' Vice President of New Product Research from 1984 through 1989, and taught music technology courses at the University of North Carolina at Asheville from 1989 to 1992.

    1. Re:The server seems getting slower, so... by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      What would the world of modern music be like without the inventions of Bob Moog? One answer would be: very boring.

      What? Does that mean that modern music depends on technology to be interesting, not on the creativity of the composer?

      Hmm...that would explain a lot.

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    2. Re:The server seems getting slower, so... by rd4tech · · Score: 1

      although I like new music (especially electronic), still, there isn't anything even close to the combination of mozart + piano.

    3. Re:The server seems getting slower, so... by renehollan · · Score: 1
      That would be Walter Carlos.

      He had the "operation" to become Wendy after Switched-On Bach was produced.

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    4. Re:The server seems getting slower, so... by elucido · · Score: 1

      Bernie Worrell is credited for creating the funkadelic sound using the Moog keyboard. This sound lasted for over 20 years and is now the basis for the funk and R&B genre. The power of the Moog keyboard is unquestionable when its in the right hands. There is a documentary about Bernie Worrells work in the industry using this keyboard Bernie Worrell: Stranger On Earth

  10. Tribute by saskboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Someone should posted a MIDI version of Taps.

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    1. Re:Tribute by petsounds · · Score: 1

      Moogs never used MIDI until recent revisions, you insensitive clod. They were pure analog devices.

    2. Re:Tribute by dstone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone should posted a MIDI version of Taps.

      That would make for an awful tribute, in my opinion. Moog pioneered and championed analog, imperfect, and continuously variable signals. MIDI is all about crisp, quantized, digital, perfectly sequencable and recordable signals.

      A better tribute, in my opinion, would be to play taps on some his own gear (or at least a Theremin or something) run through a class Moog ladder filter.

      That would get him self-oscillating, I'm sure.

    3. Re:Tribute by Zoop · · Score: 1

      No, it should be a series of CV gate voltages and timings.

    4. Re:Tribute by clifyt · · Score: 1

      No, but he was one of the lead developers of one of the greatest digital instruments out there, the Kurzweil K2000.

      That was mid-80s, so you've had two decades of Moog that could play midi.

    5. Re:Tribute by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ok but be a geek, run it through a midi to cv gate converter :)

      I used the novation bass station's built in converter to talk to a Moog Rogue, worked fine.

      Goodbye, mr Moog.

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    6. Re:Tribute by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1

      I shoulda known clifyt would have to throw his $0.02 in here somewhere. :P

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    7. Re:Tribute by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, MIDI is all about being a language of messages and control, not about actual sound signal itself. MIDI is actually what seperates the performance from the sound generation.

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    8. Re:Tribute by JazzHarper · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Moog's low-pass VCF circuit is a brilliant design.

      Matched, differential transistor pairs are stacked to form a ladder. The transistors aren't being used for gain, though. The control voltage varies the current through the stack which causes the conductance of the transistors to vary... a lot. The cutoff frequency can be swept through five orders of magnitude by the control voltage alone.

      I showed that circuit to quite a few EE profs before I found one who could give an adequate explanation of how it worked.

      Sheer genius.

    9. Re:Tribute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, MIDI is all about being a language of messages and control, not about actual sound signal itself.

      The entire control aspect of MIDI, the entire frequency range and "note" aspect of MIDI, all of MIDI's timing, and every other control or signal is quantized, perfect, reproducable, and digital.

      You can't -continuously- vary the tempo, the frequency of gate signals, the frequency of any oscillator, the resonance value of any filter, etc. Oh, sure, you can get 16 bits or more of resolution on these digital settings in MIDI and you can send those signals at some divisor of 31 kHz (or whatever MIDI's rate is), which is fairly fast and fairly smooth, but it's simply not analog or continuous control.

      If you've ever heard classic MIDI "zipper" noise when controlling a filter or oscillator, you'll agree. And when you don't hear such digital artifacts during MIDI control, it's simply because a smart engineer has kept those artifacts below a reasonable level of perception. I'm not saying MIDI control is worse or evil, but it's not what Robert Moog pioneered, nor was it what he was best at, nor what is what most people will remember him for.

      MIDI is actually what seperates the performance from the sound generation.

      MIDI is one way to do it. Analog sequencers and analog patches are another. Where MIDI requires a distinction be made between an audio signal and a control signal (MIDI addressing only the latter, and only digitally), analog does not. Signal is signal and there's nothing to stop you from (and everything to encourage you to try) taking an "audio" output and sending it to a "control" input or vice versa.

      Sweep one -10V to +10V oscillator (audio) with another -10V to +10V oscillator (control) and you'll be doing something that MIDI just can't do. When a jack says "output" on a patchable analog rig, you can treat it as control or audio. It's really quite elegant. And nasty.

    10. Re:Tribute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cripes...you a f'n stalker!!!

      I knew there was a reason I should have posted anonymously like I do most of the time anymore!!!

    11. Re:Tribute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      no, a better tribute would be to shove a whistle up your ass and fart.

    12. Re:Tribute by 7Prime · · Score: 2, Informative

      That would make for an awful tribute, in my opinion. Moog pioneered and championed analog, imperfect, and continuously variable signals. MIDI is all about crisp, quantized, digital, perfectly sequencable and recordable signals.

      That's not entirely acurate actually, Bob Moog is invaluably connected to MIDI. It was Bob who actually published the first public article detailing the MIDI standard (developed by Yamaha, Roland, and a consortion of other synth companies from 1980-83) in Keyboard Magazine, in 1983. This was, as it was meant to be, the final call, making MIDI the universal interface standard. The man himself was so reveared that when he said that there needed to be one universal interface standard, and that MIDI was that standard, everyone simply had to listen to him. If he hadn't done so, it's quite possible that no one interface standard would have been solidified, and synths would be no more compatable than today's computers.

      So, the man is almost as important to MIDI as he is to the synthesizer. He invented neither, but in both cases brought them into a stage where they could be much more usable and commercially viable.

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    13. Re:Tribute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      When I sat next to Bob at an awards diner in 1993 he was very excited about his new project - MIDI theremins. Of course he succeeded. Thanks for everything, Bob.

    14. Re:Tribute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That would make for an awful tribute, in my opinion. Moog pioneered and championed analog, imperfect, and continuously variable signals. MIDI is all about crisp, quantized, digital, perfectly sequencable and recordable signals.

      The interface is not related to the sound generator, and to my mind, Moog championed the analog sound more than anything else. Nearly all analog synthesizers have MIDI retrofit options these days. You can stick MIDI on a Mini Moog and it'll still sound 100% Mini Moog, but the difference is controllability. In fact I seem to recall one Welsh company even released a product called the MIDImoog which was exactly that; the guts of a Mini Moog but with MIDI and an additional LFO.

    15. Re:Tribute by unitron · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't happen to have a link to a schematic (even simplified), would you?

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  11. Documentary about Moog by Jason+Scott · · Score: 4, Informative

    A documentary about Robert Moog, called simply "Moog", came out last year, directed by Hans Fjellestad. A site about the movie is here:

    http://www.zu33.com/moog/

    While the movie doesn't work for everyone (it's a little arty and a little weird), it has a lot of interview footage with Bob Moog and his unique outlook on life. It's well worth getting and a very dreamy, very loving portrait of the man.

    How lucky we are that Fjellestad took this project on.

    1. Re:Documentary about Moog by robinMoog · · Score: 1

      I've seen this film at its premier in Sheffield, and we had a chance to talk to the director afterwards. It is a very charming portrait of a beautiful and gentle man who had far more diverse interests than just electronics (even though that was his passion). I thought it was a fantastic film. If you get the chance, watch it.

  12. So very sad by Trizzledog · · Score: 1

    Synth dad. :(

  13. My Respects before i bring a lightheart here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Makes ya think, is he really gonna settle for just playing a harp 'up there'?

    So long, and thanks for all the BASS.

    respect,love, and continuation,

    jamesr.

  14. Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hehe, Moog, that's a sweet name!

    Since the site's dead, here's some cool info about him: www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/moog

    1. Re:Moog by robslimo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Speaking of obsolete analog in a digital world, these guys still make DIY analog synth kits (and other stuff). They've been around since the late 60s, early 70s.

  15. Minimoog was released in 1970! by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Informative

    As far as I know, the original article is wrong. Moog synthesizer in 1960's were modular. They were indeed easier to use than the competition because at least they included normal musical keyboard (oddly enough, Bob Moog was one of the rare engineers who understood that musicians want to play their synths just like piano or Hammond organ). Minimoog was the compact one, but it wasn't released until around 1970.

    1. Re:Minimoog was released in 1970! by bjb · · Score: 1
      Yes, the 1960's had the modular Moog, and in 1970 an engineer at Moog created the MiniMoog from spare parts lying around in the attic. Four designs later, they ended up with the classic MiniMoog "Model D" circa 1970. Later when Moog Music was purchased by Norlin, other models came out that didn't quite have the same charisma, but kept the company alive.

      Its interesting that you mention "musical keyboard" and that Moogs were easier to use than the competition.

      The main competitor to the Moog in the 1960s was the Buchla 100 (and later models), which was quite a different beast. Not only did it not have a keyboard (it used an array of touch sensitive pads along with the common set of dials, lights and switches), but the patch cord system was significantly different. On the Moog, you used standard 1/4" plugs (like a guitar patch cord). You could plug anything into anything, giving you a very wide range of possibilities. On the Buchla, you had two different types of cords. Some were banana plugs, some were patches. Control voltage (like pitch, volume, triggers, etc) would be through banana plugs, and audio (sound output) would be through patch cords (or something close to that; my memory is fuzzy here). Because of this strict separation of wires and their purposes, it made it a little easier to get sound out of a Buchla because you knew that A plugged into B, not A into 2. Since Moog used the same cords all around, you could effectively plug a control into an audio, which may prevent you from getting any sound in your complex patch setup.

      The keyboard is the other interesting point. Moog selected the keyboard because he played piano and was familiar with it. Remember, when the Moog and Buchla came out, nobody had ever seen these things before, so how DO you define how to make sound out of a variable-pitch thing like this? Nobody had set the rule that a synthesizer is a keyboard instrument at that time; Moog made his that way, and people adopted it. Buchla took more of an engineer's approach to it, and provided triggers and pressure pads, etc. Which was easier to play? Go to the synthesizer section of a music store today and see which became the popular format for some kind of answer to that question.

      What about other competition? Though Moog was the first and most popular, old analog synthesizers are infamous for their poor oscillator stability. What this means is that as the temperature of the device changed, the pitch of your "middle C" wasn't quite in tune 10 minutes later; you actually had to warm up, re-tune, play, and re-tune some more as you worked with your Moog. Wendy Carlos' "Switched on Bach" was a long and tedious project, simply because she could only play parts at a time before having to re-tune. The competition eventually came around in the form of the company "ARP". What ARP did was not much different from what Moog had been producing, but the HUGE difference was the improved oscillator stability. This made synthesizers almost road-worthy enough to bring on gigs. However, there was still one more problem: the size of the devices.

      Enter: MiniMoog. Improved oscillator stability, compact design, and enough sound possibilities to use on the road. Though not as flexible as the modular Moogs, it did one heck of a job. Thats the significance of the MiniMoog in a nutshell. The Moog name was revitalized.

      OK, enough typing for now. Highly recommend "Switched on Bach" for early Moog music, and google Suzanne Ciani for Buchla 100 samples (she is probably the most famous Buchla artist over the years, doing a lot of advertising tracks and such).

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  16. Bye bye Bob... by MsGeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember meeting Robert Moog at a music technology convention in 1981. He was still designing new instruments, but was in the paradoxical position of not being able to put his own name on them...thanks a lot CBS Music.

    He was able to get his trademarks back and his designs, and a new version of the Minimoog came out at the most recent NAMM convention in California in January. Here's a non-sponsored link to it.

    He was a geek's geek, and put the tech in techno. He will be missed.

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    1. Re:Bye bye Bob... by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 3, Informative
      I remember meeting Robert Moog at a music technology convention in 1981. He was still designing new instruments, but was in the paradoxical position of not being able to put his own name on them...thanks a lot CBS Music.

      CBS Music never owned the Moog trademark. In the 1970/80s it was owned by Norlin, who also owned Gibson guitars, Lowrey organs, Maestro FX pedals, Pearl Drums, among others.

      The Moog trademark lapsed by the mid 90s and was snatched up by Don Martin. After promises of reissued Moog products, accepting 50% deposits, and very little product delivered, Don was forced into bankruptcy and the assets were liquidated. Bob Moog stepped in to reacquire the trademarks to his name and the instruments, and operated as Moog Music since 2002.

      Bob's 21st century Minimoog, the Voyager, is an outstanding product. I have one of the early Voyagers and it is a high quality product, as is the other Moog products they currently make.

      We lost a great man this weekend.

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    2. Re:Bye bye Bob... by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      > thanks a lot CBS Music ...

      They also seriously damaged the reputation of Fender guitars. (Disclaimer: I've owned a CBS acoustic gutiar for about 35 years, and it's quite a playable instrument, although I had to shave a fair bit off the bottom of the bridge because the neck was poorly set - easier than pulling the damn thing apart.)

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    3. Re:Bye bye Bob... by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      Thanks for correcting me...Norlin...of course. Sorry about that.

      Somehow I remembered them being in the same corporate conglomerate as Fender. Senior moment.

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  17. A sad day in music history by Adrilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a friend said "...that guy was a legend.

    Robots, Computers and Satan would have nothing to dance to if it weren't for him."

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    1. Re:A sad day in music history by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

      What's really sad is how persecuted those who enjoy electronic music are. Just last weekend a rave in Utah was broken up by the national guard. Hundreds of peaceful dancers threatened with guns, and dozens beaten and arrested. This was a fully licensed event, and the police simply ripped up the permits and waved their guns. Here is a video of the raid, and some first hand accounts.

      The government is waging war on its own citizens under the guise of the war on drugs, now blatantly violating the constition. It's clear that if you are not a good christian who drinks beer and watches football, you're a second class citizen. I'm just glad nobody died.

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    2. Re:A sad day in music history by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not saying illegal things didn't happen there. But illegal things happen at every concert and club in the world. Electronic music fans are particularly singled out.

      Now as for the permits, they were destroyed by the police. If you don't believe it, we'll find out when it all goes to court. The police just didn't care that this event was as legal as an Allman Brothers concert. The linked article is extremely poorly researched, and deliberately biased towards the government.

      Anyway, if you've ever been to a rave you'd know that there's almost never any trouble. Ravers are peaceful friendly people. Most all raves are well planned with security and medical. The only "problems" that happen are people consuming drugs of their own volition. Illegal yes, but does that justify waving assault rifles in their faces?

      Besides, if you care so much about law and order, you should be concerned that this raid happened in a lawful manner. It wasn't.

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    3. Re:A sad day in music history by hitchhacker · · Score: 2, Informative


      looks like the video link is gone.
      I found more info at wikinews with links to videos.

      -metric

    4. Re:A sad day in music history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      Now as for the permits, they were destroyed by the police.

      That doesn't really do justice to it:

      The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."

      Source: From the account of one of the headline DJs

      Other choice quotes:

      Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point.

      One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.

      Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant.

      Spread the word.
  18. R.I.P. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you, Bob, for all the joy you have given to so many musicians through your electronic instruments. Rest in peace.

  19. Listening Suggestion by Ann+Elk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Switched on Bach by Wendy Carlos, especially the last track (Initial Experiments). You can hear Wendy working with a prototype Moog pressure-sensitive keyboard, trying various settings and arrangements. Wendy's narration provides great background to the experiments. As a geek, it is (by far) my favorite track on the CD.

    RIP, Bob.

    1. Re:Listening Suggestion by Telecommando · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually Wendy was going by the name Walter Carlos back then, at least that's how she's listed on my copy of the album, which is worn and scratchy from repeated playing. It's a groundbreaking piece of work, somewhat mindblowing at the time. Must dig it out again and find a turntable.

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    2. Re:Listening Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the time of the recording, wouldn't that have been Walter Carlos?

    3. Re:Listening Suggestion by AndyBusch · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but she went and changed her name on all her older work. Recent issues of Switched on Bach list her as Wendy, though the photo is unchanged.

    4. Re:Listening Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      especially the last track (Initial Experiments)

      Hmm, must be a bonus track on the CD. It's not on the LP.

  20. Bury him in a 19" wide, rackmountable casket... by dstone · · Score: 4, Funny

    powered by +/-12V DC, with lots of silver toggle switches, red LEDs, black plastic knobs, and a big patch panel of jacks for audio and Control Voltage in/out.

    Oscillate wildly, Robert Moog.

    See also: Robert Moog Wikipedia page.

  21. Wikipedia Article by magicchex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wikipedia article on Robert Moog.

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    1. Re:Wikipedia Article by Bender_ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Google search for Robert Moog

  22. Cyberpunk Fuction by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Whose synthesizer is this?"

    "It's a sampler, baby."

    "Whose sampler is this?"

    "Bob's."

    "Who's Bob?"

    "Bob's dead, baby. Bob's dead..."

    1. Re:Cyberpunk Fuction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the uninitiated, see this: http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/cyberpunk.fiction -1.html

      Refer to track 8 and substitute "Chemlab" for "Bob"

    2. Re:Cyberpunk Fuction by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > "Whose synthesizer is this?"
      > "It's a sampler, baby."
      > "Whose sampler is this?"
      > "Bob's."
      > "Who's Bob?"
      > "Bob's dead, baby. Bob's dead..."

      ...riffing on Cyberpunk Fiction , a parody of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack. (I'm going from memory here, it's been a while since I've heard it... but it's also probably a fitting tribute, since without Bob, none of the following suggenres would have existed...)

      "Y'know what they call industrial music over there? Electro Body Music!"
      "Electro Body Music? What do they call techno?"
      "Well, techno's techno. Except in Paris they call it 'le techno'."
      "What do they call house?"
      "I don't know, I don't listen to that shit. But you know what put on drums in Holland?"
      "What?"
      "Flange."
      "Goddamn!"
      "They fuckin' bury 'em in it..."

      The first track of the album album also features a bit of dialog that, by itself, is worth the price of the entire album:

      "All right, everybody, be COOL! I'm your new SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR!"
      "Any of you fucking Ewoks move and I'll terminate every last motherfucking job on the mainframe!"

  23. An archetect of many eras of music by DoddyUK · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's a shame to see he's gone. His work lead to generations of synthesizers, dominating the music scene of the 80s. Plus you just gotta love that little riff from The Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations" :)

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    1. Re:An archetect of many eras of music by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Informative

      That riff is not thanks to Mr. Moog but rather to Paul Tanner who built the electro-theremin, which was of course based on the traditional hands-waving-in-space theremin.

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  24. Better Guide by Rufus88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or, for the /. crowd:

    It's pronounced "moag", as in, "Worf, son of".

    1. Re:Better Guide by pwroberts · · Score: 1

      That's "Mogh". But I still laughed :-)

    2. Re:Better Guide by eMartin · · Score: 1

      ...and now we're laughing at you. :P

    3. Re:Better Guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I like it better when it sounds like Quark's mom, "Moogie"

    4. Re:Better Guide by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 1

      heh heh... I always wished someone would release a compilation album called "Son of Moog," perhaps with a cheesy subtitle like "Restoring the Family Honor of Electro-Funk." If ST:TNG had come out in the late '70s or early '80s, I'm sure it would have happened.

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  25. Another good story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


    The Man Behind the Machines

    What would the world of modern music be like without the inventions of Bob Moog? One answer would be: very boring. Bob Moog's namesake analog synthesizers have affected popular music in ways he might not have expected back in 1954 when he began building theremins with his father. But 50 years later, Bob's musical instruments have catapulted so many styles of music into the future, and his contributions to both players and technicians grow even more profound in retrospect.

    Where would R&B, rap and hip-hop be if groups like Parliament and Funkadelic hadn't used Moog keyboards? Where would rock and roll be if groups from Yes to the Beatles hadn't used Moog keyboards? Would jazz music have branched off into fusion without Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea using Moog keyboards? Where would Rob Malda be without all of the handjobs he gave to Moog? And would classical music have enjoyed such resurgence without Wendy Carlos and her modular Moog synthesizer? The questions are hypothetical, of course, because synthesizers have infiltrated every style of music, and so many companies have tried to recreate that analog sound. But above all the copycats and spin-offs, it always comes back to one name: Moog.

    After ten years of making theremins, providing unearthly sounds to science fiction movies and avante garde musicians, Bob Moog met experimental composer Herbert Deutsch, whose search for electronic sounds inspired Bob to create the first Moog Modular Synthesizer. Though Bob took on the project just for fun, when he premiered it at the Audio Engineering Society Convention in October of 1964 the response was immediate and Bob started taking orders on the spot. By the time he received a graduate degree (PhD in Engineering Physics, Cornell University) in the summer of 1965, the R. A. Moog Co. had delivered several modular synthesizer systems, mostly to academic and experimental composers. But it would be a few years later when public awareness of Moog synthesizers would leap ahead beneath the nimble fingers of Wendy Carlos.
    Carlos' renowned album "Switched-On Bach" was released on Columbia Records at the
    end of 1968, achieving immediate success. The album went on to sell over a million copies, creating a sharp demand for Moog modular synthesizers throughout 1969 and early 1970. Many "switched-on" records were produced during that period. By the end of 1970, the now incorporated R. A. Moog Inc. introduced the Minimoog®, a compact performance synthesizer based on the technology of Moog modular products, enabling keyboardists to take the Moog on the road. And that began a decade of music that would be forever altered by the Minimoog and its incomparable sounds.

    R. A. Moog Inc. officially changed its name to Moog Music Inc. in 1971 and became a division of the now defunct Norlin Music in 1973. Moog synthesizers were widely used by professional musicians and the "Sound of the Moog" became an integral part of our musical culture. The list of songs is far too long to print here, but from rock to R&B, from jazz to classical music, the Moog sounds were everywhere.

    At the end of 1977, Bob left Moog Music and in 1978 founded Big Briar for the purpose of developing and building electronic musical instruments with novel player interfaces. Actual Moog keyboards were made for the better part of the next decade by Norlin Music, but with the heart and soul of Moog gone, Moog keyboards ceased production by 1986. Though gone from his namesake company, Bob's interest in synthesizers and instruments could not be quelled. From 1978 to 1992, Bob operated Big Briar on a small scale and kept building custom instruments. He was also representing Synton, a Dutch manufacturer of modular equipment, and providing consultation services to other music technology manufacturers. In addition, Bob served as Kurzweil Music Systems' Vice President of New Product Research from 1984 through 1989, and taught music technology courses at the University of North Carolina at Asheville from 1989 to

  26. FreshAir interview by kondrag · · Score: 5, Informative

    Terry Gross interviewed Robert Moog back in 2000. The interview is available online here:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=1113447

    1. Re:FreshAir interview by solarium_rider · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is also an article on him today on Day to Day and an obituary on All Things Considered. There are about a half dozen or so articles on him on NPR actually for those interested.

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    2. Re:FreshAir interview by wemgadge · · Score: 2, Informative

      He had an interview with Dick Gordon on The Connection on 9/5/2002: http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2002/09/2002090 5_b_main.asp/ (... another NPR show, sadly cancelled now..)

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  27. Einstein? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Informative

    "He's like an Einstein of music," Carlini said. "He sees it like, there's a thought, an idea in the air, and it passes through him. Passing through him, he's able to build these instruments."

    Wow, deep stuff, man, but don't bogart that joint. At first sight, I though Mr. Carlini must be some hack that CNN tapped for a quote. Turns out, Carlini is a force in the NYC entertainment industry -- http://carlinigroup.com/pdf/bio.pdf. Sorry for the PDF.

    Let me join the rest of the music world in wishing Dr. Robert Moog peaceful journeys. Without his genius, we might never have experienced music as we know it today.

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    1. Re:Einstein? by dr_dank · · Score: 0, Troll

      Without his genius, we might never have experienced music as we know it today

      True, but it may have prevented A Flock of Seagulls and the Thompson Twins.

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  28. damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I`m gonna listen Rick Wakeman all day

  29. Polar Prize winner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robert Moog playing in an abandoned nuclear reactor hall at KTH after being awarded the Polar Music Prize in 2001. movie+pictures

  30. Moog's Hometown Newspaper Story by sjvn · · Score: 1

    When I moved to Asheville, NC a few years back I was pleasantly surprised to find that Moog, who work I had long admired, was also living here.

    http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article ?AID=/20050822/NEWS01/50822006/1001

    Good-bye, and thank you.

    If was your instrument and Walter--later Wendy--Carolos'work, which brought me to classical music.

    Steven

  31. a true pioneer by hotsxx2004 · · Score: 1

    its sad how another one bites the dust. May he rest in peace

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  32. emulators? by notnAP · · Score: 1
    ...the "Minimoog" is still highly praised, and often emulated, to this day."

    Only the ancient synth geeks among us will have understood this emu pun/reference.


    See here for emu info.

  33. Re:Cyberpunk Fuction huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did you mean "fiction"?

  34. The kingdom falls by noiseusse · · Score: 1

    Buchla Lives! But seriously, that guy deserves way more credit for advancing analog synthesis than Moog.

    1. Re:The kingdom falls by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

      Buchla was a major force on the West coast, and in heavy-experimental acidhead electronic music. But Bob ruled the East Coast, his use of a traditional keyboard opened synths to pop & classical genres.

      Later, ARP and others copied many aspects of Moog's designs, the Japanese ate everyone's lunch, and the rest is history.

        Buchla & Serge stuck with the touch sensitive sequencer keyboards that I prefer, but 50,000 working musicians preferred the traditional keyboard.

    2. Re:The kingdom falls by torpor · · Score: 1

      they're both of equal magnitude, dude .. there's nothing that makes one 'better' than the other, both men have done a lot for the world of synthesizers ..

      that said, i'd take an arp over a mini any day ..

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      ; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
    3. Re:The kingdom falls by noiseusse · · Score: 1

      I think there may be a resurgence of interest in buchla's designs now that many people are beginning their musical careers using computers instead of keyboards.

      Have you seen these? http://www.buchla.com/200e/index.html

    4. Re:The kingdom falls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know moog and buchla worked together recently on a piano keyboard to midi converter called the pianobar?

      I've not had a chance to try one. It's a clever idea.

      http://www.moogmusic.com/newsarch.php?cat_id=24

  35. Mini-Moog inspired my career by bobalu · · Score: 1

    It was ELP's Lucky Man, and when I heard that thing I said "Man, I've got to do that." When my Vox Continental keyboard kept breaking down I got started in electronics, and when the Fairlight came out I switched to software.

    I got to meet him once at an Audio Engineering Society convention; just shook his hand and said "Thanks".

    He was the real thing.

    --
    The revolution will NOT be televised.
  36. Sigh.... by aliensporebomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think what we think of as "modern music" would not sound the same without it.

    Keith Emersons' heart stopping sounds at
    the close of the single "Lucky Man" was
    probably my first exposure to synthesizer
    music. I later heard Switched on Bach as
    well as many of the electronic german bands
    who specialized in synthesis.

    Some synthesizer-predominant artists
    such as Tangerine Dream, Synergy,
    Kraftwerk, Michael Hoenig, Klaus Schulze,
    Ash Ra Tempel, Vangelis, Wendy Carlos,
    and SFF among many, many others simply
    wouldn't sound the same OR actually
    sound at all without them.

    I think of an interview with the canadian
    band Saga who at one time owned "one of
    everything" that Moog made and was offered
    an endorsement deal from Moog and they said
    "why bother? We already own everything you
    make!" That's a ringing endorsement.

    And the secret to the Moog sound was the filters
    in those instruments. Every synthesizer made
    had their own unique sound. But everyone tried
    to copy the Moog filter sound and didn't quite
    succeed.

    I bet they will still be buying Minimoogs' in
    100 years - something about that design and
    sound with tweakable knobs urges playing.

    Small wonder that in the 80s when synth
    makers went to touch panels or increment and
    decrement buttons players liked them less
    even though the sounds were unique because
    the interface made you play a certain way.
    The sound was more alive when you could
    manipulate the sound with knobs while
    playing.

    Notable makers who used the "knobs as sound
    shaping devices" were Wolfgang Palm of the
    venerable PPG (and later Waldorf) as well as
    Roland who resurrected the "plethora of knobs"
    idea with their JD800. Knobs work and Mr.
    Moog must have just understood this. Some
    others did too.

    But the Moog sound was instantly identifiable.
    And it is still used today. And very likely
    100 years from now. That Minimoog voyager
    with blue LEDs is an object of lust for more
    than just a few.

    Bon Voyage, Robert:
    Let's hope he'll rest in peace or spend eternity
    driving God insane with giant filter sweeps on
    the biggest modular in the universe.

    1. Re:Sigh.... by onemorechip · · Score: 1
      May I add a few of my favorites to your list of Moog synth artists:

      Yes/Rick Wakeman (Fragile, Close to the Edge, Six Wives of Henry VIII)

      Chick Corea (The Leprechaun contains some of the best Moog sounds I've ever heard)

      Manfred Mann (Waiter, There's a Yawn in My Ear, from The Roaring Silence)

      While many people have mentioned Switched-On Bach, another Walter^H^H^H^H^Hendy Carlos album, The Well-Tempered Synthesizer, featuring works by Bach, Scarlatti, and Monteverdi is also worth a listen. Especially for the Scarlatti. I don't know if it's available on CD.

      I'm not sure of this one: Did the Alan Parsons Project (the group, not the WMD) use a Moog on I, Robot?

      We owe some of the best sounds of progressive music to Bob Moog. He'll be missed but those sounds will live on.

      --
      But, I wanted socialized health insurance!
    2. Re:Sigh.... by bjb · · Score: 1
      Keith Emersons' heart stopping sounds at the close of the single "Lucky Man" was probably my first exposure to synthesizer music.

      What's interesting is that the "Lucky Man" Moog track was just a warm-up for Emerson; he didn't realize that they were recording.

      As the story goes, he was playing along with the studio tape and figuring out what to do for his solo. When the tape finished, he looked over at the mixing room to tell them that he was ready to record, but they all had huge grins on their face because they loved what they had heard, and recorded. He was a bit disappointed that they had recorded it because, I believe, they wrote directly to the master. Erasing and re-recording would have been very difficult, and thus they kept the original.

      Makes you think - what would Keith Emerson have played if he had the 2nd chance?

      --
      Never hit your grandmother with a shovel, for it leaves a bad impression on her mind...
  37. Quick and easy Theramin by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    Any ham radio types out there with a 'grid dip meter' can easily play the therimin: just tune your ham rig to a frequency that the dipper is on, and wave your hand near the coil. I was doing it last night and it's strangly addictive. There's no volume control like on a real one tho.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  38. I have an excerpt from his funeral... by Quaoar · · Score: 4, Funny

    beeep boop booooooop beeep boop booooooooop beeep boop booooop, beeep boop boooooop, beeep boop booooop...

    --
    I'll form my OWN solar system! With blackjack! And hookers!
    1. Re:I have an excerpt from his funeral... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sample and hold patch???

  39. RIP Moog by SolusSD · · Score: 1

    ah.. He'll be missed. I built a digital theremin in 7th grade for a science fair. One of the most awe inspiring instruments I'vehttp://hpweb100.interact.nonreg/iiAdmin ever seen.

  40. Re: Bob Moog by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm going to have to listen to my Walter Carlos version of "Switched on Bach" - on vinyl.

    --
    No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
  41. Re: Bob Moog by burne · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have it somewhere: I Feel Love by Donna Summer. Baseline is Giorgio Moroder and the classic MS-10/SQ-10 pair. Must have been the first introduction to a sequencer for most people. Little did they know.. He will be missed.

  42. Getting prurient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    If was your instrument and Walter--later Wendy--Carolos'work, which brought me to classical music.

    Oh, come on.

    Were you even born when the events you allude to happened?

    Everybody with any familiarity with electronic music knows that Switched-On Bach had a different name on it. So did the first couple of others, including my favorite The Well-Tempered Synthesizer.

    Nobody over the emotional age of five gives a shit.

  43. Had a MicroMoog by esconsult1 · · Score: 1
    Back in the day, I owned a Micromoog, this thing was so analog, that internal crossover effects itself could create new sound effects!

    My old man owned a copy of Switched on Bach when I was little, and I loved Walter (later Wendy) Carlos' interpretations.

    As I grew up learning the piano, then getting to love electronics and later computing, the Micromoog was in my electronics lab right beside the soldering iron, so I could riff while I worked. I got it as a cast off gift from a musician when I repaired his new synthesizer.

    While the micro is now long gone (experimented on to death by my brother and I), synthesizers still hold a special place, and I own a Yamaha DX7 to this day, which is still awesome.

    Rob Moog will be missed by this programmer dearly.

  44. Synthesizers 'round the world have this to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...in tribute to Bob Moog:

    bweeep boop bweep

  45. RIP by RiotNrrd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    /me queues up some Rush out of respect.

    "Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone..."

  46. Re:Fuck you Moog by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, the AC got modded as troll, probably because of his wording. But I'll rephrase his point of view and present the opposite as well:

    Pro-electronic music: synthesizer and samplers are instruments, just like a harpsichord or a bassoon. Instruments are just tools that channel the creativity of composers and performers. Therefore you still have to be a good composer or performer to make good music with electronics.

    Against electronic music: synthesizer and samplers sounds very good with little to no effort or talent. Therefore, a whole generation of people without talent, or the ability or patience to learn to play an instrument through years or practice, started to spew out what they think is music, but really isn't much more than a cold, soulless collection of sounds at best.

    My opinion is: yes, both.

    --
    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  47. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> I Feel Love by Donna Summer

    Either that or just shoot yourself in the kneecap with a nailgun. Same effect.

  48. Poor moderation, please mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this modded troll? It's good information for anybody interested in the life work of Moog.

    We will miss you Bob!

    1. Re:Poor moderation, please mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where would Rob Malda be without all of the handjobs he gave to Moog?
       
      This is good information about Moog???

  49. a powerful instrument in the right hands... by xenomouse · · Score: 1

    To get an idea of how powerful and diverse a Moog synthesizer can be, check out Joy Electic. Ronnie Martin is by no means everyone's cup of tea. His music brings to my imagination an atari on crack, or a manic Trent Reznor on a sugar rush.

    At the least, check out images of Ronnie's Lab.

  50. In honor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In honor of one of the great electronic music pioneers i'll go out an buy a "mooger fooger" first this tommorrow.

    ( dispite the fact that I still dont have a clue about what a "mooger fooger" does. But the name is fucking awesome! )

    Retep Vosnul

  51. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Warf Son-of-Moog, plans to honor his father by incorporating the Bat'leth into a new music synthesizor design to "imporve its killing efficiency ten-fold." His released statement concluded,
    "many people remember my father for his defense of James Kirk. It was little known that he jammed with Jerry every time the Dead came to town. It was far out, man."
    Truly a Klingon icon.

    Posted anon for obvious reasons. Disclaimer: I'm an electronica fan, and of Goa-Psy trance especially, so this kinda stinks as my music enjoyment owes a lot to what this guy did.
  52. Loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I was fortunate to meet Bob at the Theremin festival, in of all places Erie PA, when I was working on my senior thesis, a visual guide to playing the theremin.

    I traded emails with him for a while and he reviewed my work which was a visual communications prpblem more than anything. He was extremely nice and down to earth. I even asked if he would be interested in publishing it and I think he might have even considered it for a minute or two, though nothing ever came of it.

    I was amazed how approachable and interested he was in talking to people about his work even 30 years or more! He seemed quite introverted and shy, and a bit put off by the psychos who are typically obssessed with analog synths,

    He gave a lecture on the history of electronic music, followed by a classically trained Thermenists performance.

    I hope Big Briar will continue without him they make some amazing stuff...

  53. Roland TB303 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a lot of people know this, but this classic dance machine from '83 actually uses Moog's transistor filter stack.

  54. Synthesizing the Moog by e4g4 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Arturia, for those of you with a few hundred bucks to spend, has a software model of the both the Minimoog and the wall sized Moog Modular. It's one of the best ways (that i've found) to get warm, analog synth goodness out of my machine. Bob Moog will surely be missed - and his contributions to the electronic world will live on, with or without the original, gargantuan equipment.

    --
    The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein
    1. Re:Synthesizing the Moog by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 1

      Indeed, these virtual synths produce great quality and can even do more than the original instruments (i.e. polyphony)

      --
      Sample this!
  55. Synth genius, but not the first by bitrex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Though Bob Moog was obviously a genius of electronic instrument design, he is often credited with being the first to develop the voltage-controlled oscillator and voltage controlled filter. Actually the credit should go to Dr. Freidrich Adolf Trautwein and his Trautonium, a vacuum tube behemoth constructed in Germany in 1930. The VCOs were thyratron tubes (similar to solid state SCRs) that were used as relaxation oscillators, which were tuned by applying a negative voltage to their control grids. There are schematics available for similar tube synth circuits available at Metasonix, which also has tube synth modules for sale.

  56. Check out the Moog Cookbook by schmidt4brains · · Score: 1

    The Moog Cookbook is a cool duo from LA that does cover versions of 80s/90s/00s tunes using (primarily) Moog instruments. Available on iTunes, they have some great covers of Lenny Kravitz, Green Day, Nirvana, Soundgarden, an others.

  57. Switched On -- Honorably... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bob Moog proved that the term "honorable businessman" is not an oxymoron, at least not in his case.

    Bob had the occasion to visit Raymond Scott in his studio, and see one of Scott's secret inventions-- the sequencer. Scott unfortunately, was very protective of his ideas-- so much so that he undoubtedly took many of them to his grave. Scott didn't want his secret invention to get out-- though apparently needed some confirmation from someone qualified to appreciate it, else why would Bob be seeing it in the first place?

    Consequently, the Moog Synthesizers did not have sequencers until the competition came up with them and started beating Moog up in the marketplace, so finally Scott let Bob off the hook and allowed Bob to manufacture sequencers for his synthesizers. Bob probably could have just stolen the idea, though in fact it's likely he would have arrived at it independently, but because Bob was honorable, he didn't use the sequencer concept without Scott's OK.

    Just one of a wide variety of great stories. They don't make them like that anymore...

    I got to meet Bob briefly in L.A. at the unveiling of the Fairlight CMI in the 1970s (or was it early '80s, I forget)-- he was involved in some of the PR of the instrument. It was a small group, and Bob gave a nice talk on music technologies. Great guy...

    The Moog VCF is still being emulated (along with most of his other components) in digital "virtual analog" synthesizers today. I had a chance to pick up a classic Moog modular setup in the '70s for about $500. I still kick myself for passing it up. (big darn thing though, I had an Arp 2600 at the time (still have) and preferred the convenience of it, but while the 2600 has increased in value, not nearly as much as an original Moog modular-- plus the coolness factor now of a big 1/4" jack patched synth would now be pretty hard to beat)...

    1. Re:Switched On -- Honorably... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bob will be missed. And if you want a 1/4" patch cable synth, try synthesizers.com.

  58. Re: Bob Moog by Golias · · Score: 1

    Same person. Walter became Wendy between "Switched on Bach" and "Switched on Bach 2" She also did the soundtrack Tron, among others.

    --

    Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  59. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Oh fuck. I have that record too. On vinyl. But nothing to play it on...

    When I still had a record player, I played it a lot. Really great stuff. When you compare it to the awful "sampled on Bach" you'll notice that although the latter uses samples, the former sounds more ... real. The warmth and inprecision of the analog synths make it sound natural, even if the sounds themselves are crazy.

  60. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rush playes music live which requires synthesizers, since there are only 3 of them sometimes Geddy Lee has to play bass and play synthesizers at the same time using the Moog Taurus bass pedals. Even though it's just triggerd sounds the coordination needed takes talent to pull off.

  61. Almost Bought a MiniMoog... by MadMorf · · Score: 1

    Back in the late '80s I found one for sale at a used record store in Miami
    Only $300...
    That thing was fun to play with...

    I kept going to the store and amusing the owner with all the weird noises I made with it, but I just kept procrastinating over buying it and eventually someone else got it...

  62. Thanks by Ed+Almos · · Score: 1

    As a fan of Walter (now Wendy) Carlos, Tangerine Dream, Tomita, Brian Eno and Stevie Wonder I bid you farewell sir and offer these few words of thanks.

    Regards

    Ed Almos
    Budapest, Hungary

    --
    The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus, 56-120 A.D.
  63. tragic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I think what we think of as "modern music" would not sound the same without it.

    Keith Emersons' heart stopping sounds at
    the close of the single "Lucky Man" was
    probably my first exposure to synthesizer
    music. I later heard Switched on Bach as
    well as many of the electronic german bands
    who specialized in synthesis.

    Some synthesizer-predominant artists
    such as Tangerine Dream, Synergy,
    Kraftwerk, Michael Hoenig, Klaus Schulze,
    Ash Ra Tempel, Vangelis, Wendy Carlos,
    and SFF among many, many others simply
    wouldn't sound the same OR actually
    sound at all without them.

    I think of an interview with the canadian
    band Saga who at one time owned "one of
    everything" that Moog made and was offered
    an endorsement deal from Moog and they said
    "why bother? We already own everything you
    make!" That's a ringing endorsement.

    And the secret to the Moog sound was the filters
    in those instruments. Every synthesizer made
    had their own unique sound. But everyone tried
    to copy the Moog filter sound and didn't quite
    succeed.

    I bet they will still be buying Minimoogs' in
    100 years - something about that design and
    sound with tweakable knobs urges playing.

    Small wonder that in the 80s when synth
    makers went to touch panels or increment and
    decrement buttons players liked them less
    even though the sounds were unique because
    the interface made you play a certain way.
    The sound was more alive when you could
    manipulate the sound with knobs while
    playing. Malda's tendencies to to penetrate himself
    with a stalk of celery also accelerated this trend.

    Notable makers who used the "knobs as sound
    shaping devices" were Wolfgang Palm of the
    venerable PPG (and later Waldorf) as well as
    Roland who resurrected the "plethora of knobs"
    idea with their JD800. Knobs work and Mr.
    Moog must have just understood this. Some
    others did too.

    But the Moog sound was instantly identifiable.
    And it is still used today. And very likely
    100 years from now. That Minimoog voyager
    with blue LEDs is an object of lust for more
    than just a few.

    Bon Voyage, Robert:
    Let's hope he'll rest in peace or spend eternity
    driving God insane with giant filter sweeps on
    the biggest modular in the universe.

    1. Re:tragic by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Parent is subtle troll; search for 'celery'.

      Most of it was interesting, though. Guess that was plagiarised from elsewhere....

      --
      "Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
    2. Re:tragic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think for that the poster deserves a +5 Insightful. I'll be damned if I could find it after skimming through it twice.

      What the hell, is this an out of work 419'er?

    3. Re:tragic by madprof · · Score: 1

      It is there alright. Read through the middle section very very carefully.

  64. Interesting name, Moog. by tji · · Score: 1
    What kind of name is that, anyway? Perhaps Comanche Indian, like Poon(1)?


    (1) See Fletch: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089155/

  65. Synth superstar by j0ris · · Score: 1
    This is sad news. The man really was a legend in synthesizer land, where I spend a lot of my time.

    I used to hang out on the Analogue Heaven mailing list a few years ago. At that time the news that Mr. Moog would come out with a modern version of his classic Minimoog synth was all the hype.

    Lots of people were willing to fork over $2500 for this monophonic synth... many even paid a few hundred bucks extra for a "Signature Edition" which the man had personally autographed. I thought this was all a bit ridiculous, but it was evidence of his synth superstardom. I wonder if these autographed Minimoogs will raise in value now that the man has passed away...

  66. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "synthesizer and samplers sounds very good with little to no effort or talent."

    But there are a whole host of people for whom songs built from a loops and a few simple keyboard phrases don't appeal.

    Therefore, it's a question of the listener's taste rather than musician's ability.

  67. He "got it" by eno2001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When it came to technology and art, Bob Moog actually "got it" compared to nearly everyone else in the IT world. (See my Slashdot profile for my statement about why I believe technology exists) He knew that he was the engineer (a brilliant one at that) and not the musician. He knew that the musician was the one with the "magical connection" to the instrument. This is what seems to be lacking in the rest of IT when thinking about the end users. He "got it" and nearly everyone else doesn't.

    --
    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
    1. Re:He "got it" by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      He knew that he was the engineer (a brilliant one at that) and not the musician. He knew that the musician was the one with the "magical connection" to the instrument. This is what seems to be lacking in the rest of IT when thinking about the end users. He "got it" and nearly everyone else doesn't.

      In the early days, there were a lot of electronic music engineers who put on shows for instruments they developed - and half the audience were electronics engineers or computer science/math grads. Then, as electronic (non-guitar/drum) music became more popular, people migrated from the general music scene into it.

      But without Moog, all would have been for naught.

      --
      -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  68. RIAA a bunch of MQQGER FOOGERS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if the RIAA( recording ass. of america) could be as innovative. MQQGER FOOGERS!

  69. He Milked the Mini-Moog Then Fell Behind by Black-Man · · Score: 1, Interesting

    C'mon... the Polymoog?!? Who in their right mind would buy a glorified organ when the Prophet-5 was available for the same price? Typical tale of small business owner who got caught up in the hype and innovation died. He milked the mini-moog for over 10 years and didn't have a true polyphonic sucessor until the Memorymoog... and it's tuning issues are legendary.

    His latest products rock! I have the MF-101 and 104 and they are truly a delight. Hope his sons further the business.

    1. Re:He Milked the Mini-Moog Then Fell Behind by DSP_Geek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Polymoog wasn't his. David Luce designed that one.

      I read a David Luce paper in Journal Of The Audio engineering Society. Nice measurements of musical instrument spectra, completely faulty mechanism for describing how they changed with amplitude.

      Here's a link to a good history of Moog Music, including how Luce was chosen to run the outfit after Moog left.
      http://www.synthmuseum.com/moog/

    2. Re:He Milked the Mini-Moog Then Fell Behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and it's tuning

      "its".

  70. Re:Fuck you Moog by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The basis of electronica is the Darmstadt electronic compositions of the 1950s, when Karlheinz Stockhausen and György Ligeti were active, some years before Moog became known to the public.

  71. My Theramin by stuffduff · · Score: 1
    I have a signature series theramin from Big Briar, back when he had lost the use of his own name in his business. It's a beautiful instrument, painted black with chromed antennas and since it's the signature series it has his name on it in silver pen.

    Back when I was a kid my dad made one for my mom, that used optical sensors. It always fascinated me, and I enjoyed the way it was used in so many shows and movies, everything from The Outer Limits to The Day The Earth Stood Still.

    Guess I'll get it out tonight and play a song for Bob, and thank him for all his many contributions that have enriched so many of our lives.

    --
    "Can there be a Klein bottle that is an efficient and effective beer pitcher?"
  72. First song by infochuck · · Score: 1

    I believe that Simon and Garfunkel's "Save the Life of my Child" was the first song to utilize a Moog; stick that in your playlist and smoke it.

    As an aside completely unrelated to that last bit, it's a wild song; very psychedelic, and not what one would expect from S&G.

    1. Re:First song by Sonicboom · · Score: 3, Informative

      actually - the first Rock single to use a Moog synth (as an instrument - not as a noise machine) was The Monkees' "Star Collector".

      --
      [Connection closed by foreign host]
    2. Re:First song by infochuck · · Score: 1

      Right. I stand corrected. This does, of course, mean you probably shouldn't add the track to your playlist. Friends don't let friends listen to Mickey Dolenz.

    3. Re:First song by tm1rules · · Score: 1

      What about "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys?

    4. Re:First song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Good Vibrations" is often cited as a popular song that uses the theremin - but the instrument heard on "Good Vibrations" is not in fact a theremin, and Moog did not invent the theremin anyway (Theremin did), so there's no connection between the song and Moog. There certainly isn't any Moog synthesizer on it.

    5. Re:First song by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      The weird lead line in Good Vibrations sounds like a Theremin. It certainly predates Moog synthesisers.

  73. *sigh* by HoodCrowd · · Score: 1

    sound of taps on a theramin (if you ever knew what the hell a theramin was playing)

  74. Troll alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Second, our design work is an ongoing collaboration with many technically-trained people. For instance, many Moog products, including our recently-introduced Minimoog Voyager, have benefited from our collaboration with Rob Malda, a child molesting pervert. And of course, the Piano Bar, our latest product, is an ongoing collaboration between Don Rinkles and us. Jeff Bates has been molesting boys since he was a teenager, and his shit-encrusted meat popsicle has popped more ass-cherry than all the niggers on death row."

  75. Minimoog was released in 1970 by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    not 1964...

  76. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She, uh, switched between Bachs eh?

  77. Sorry to disagree by NemesisNL · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry to disagree. Synthesizers didn't create a whole generation of talentles musicians. The record companies did, the public that bought the records did. A good composition isn't defined by the sounds you use. Composing is an art and no musical instrument be it a violin or a sampler will ever disguise lack of talent. I know.....I'd be rich and famous by know instead of producing pages and pages of php code and just playing in my own free time.

  78. OMFG... Insightfull?... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You and the ones who moderated you up: Get a sence of humor.............

  79. well they bungled the Theremin description by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Born in 1934 in New York City, Moog paid for his studies at Queens College and Columbia University by building and marketing theremins, which are played by passing the hand through and around vibrating radio tubes. Theremins were used create the spooky "eww-woo-woo" sounds on the soundtracks of science fiction films such as "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

    Um, no. Theremins are not played by "passing the hand through and around vibrating radio tubes."

    There are two ANTENNAS protruding from the cabinet and you wave you hands around the antennas.

    FFS, how can someone be so blinking ignorant?

    I saw an old film of the Theremin being played by Termen and I fell in love with it. I have found schematics and other instructions to build one with tubes. I'm currently scrounging around garage sales for the stuff I need to build one as they were originally designed.
    I've read that the tube based ones sound much better than the IC based ones..

  80. Guitars are just an image thing by Arru · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Aren't we forgetting the hordes of technically talented guitarists, bassoon players and whatnot spewing out album after album of bland chords and scales with no artistic content?

    The synthesizer (or actually the sequencer) disconnected technical quality from talent, but to this day creativity has very little to do with neither electronics nor fast fingers.

    Then consider this: guitars and drums make anyone look cool playing them, thus no need for worthwhile music being played. Synths (or laptops...it's the 2000s now ya'know) on the other hand, look so geeky that the creative output will be judged (more fairly) by ears alone.

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  81. god damn liberals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what is UP with you liberals and your total disrespect for life? every god damned liberal i've ever had the misfortune of encoutering has always bene quick to make jokes about people's deaths or advocate killing babies or shrugging off the hell and damnation they will face when they die

    maybe you're all juts so scared to die because you've got an eterinity of hellfire ahead of you

    it's time to stop this nonsense. forget about your techno "music" and your "culture" and start going to church where you'll get some good quality music for a change!

    1. Re:god damn liberals by earthbound+kid · · Score: 1

      Heh, all the old churches are bleeding members to newer churches, which due to their small size and lack of age have no organ, just a Casio (the bastard son of Moog) and a PA system.

      Or worse, they play that devil rock and roll "music" (if you can even call it that). In twenty years, church music may finally move from the 60's to the 80's, meaning no more Peter, Paul, and Mary-esque "As the Deer," just Kraftwerk-esque "Tour du Heaven."

  82. Eek! by MoogMan · · Score: 1

    Oh crap..

  83. "Moog" is a Dutch (from Holland) name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The "Moog" name comes from Holland.

    From this link (or Google cache,

    Spelling variations include: Moges, Mogge, Mogg, Moog, Mogges, Mogge-Pous and many more.

    First found in Holland, where the name became noted for its many branches in the region, each house acquiring a status and influence which was envied by the princes of the region.

    Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Hugh Moger, who settled in New England in 1632; Tho Mogg, who settled in Virginia in 1674; Hans Michael Mogg, who settled in Pennsylvania in 1732; Anna Herzog Maag, who came to Carolina or Pennsylvania in 1738.


  84. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what do *you* listen to, captain taste?

  85. Re:Fuck you Moog by ezweave · · Score: 1

    As a fan of analog synths (ok, so emo is big on it, but so is retro pop), the sounds produced by an analog synth are much different than those produced on a digital synth. Most people have probably not played an analog synth, but the tones are, er warmer. They have a distinctive sound (aka: The Cars, The Rentals, Blondie, The Get Up Kids, The Sounds, The Beastie Boys...) but they do not have that "cheap" sound that digital (aka your first Casio Tonebank keyboard) synths have.

    Not to mention it takes work to find good analog tones, they are not push button (analog modeling synths sometimes are) or at least you have to program them first. And the expression inputs affect the sound as well.

    So the troll is really way off base here. Bob Moog really added to modern music. Sampling has nothing to do with Moog synths, sorry bud. Plus I love his ring mod guitar pedals (too bad they are $300 a pop).

    As an aside, maybe they could lower the price of the new mini-moogs to below a couple of grand, or re-issue the prodigy models (I want one!).

  86. Re: Bob Moog by Ucklak · · Score: 1

    I've got the "By Request" Album (vinyl) with `Walter`'s caricature and credits on it.

    Needless to say, I also have SOB and WTS as Walter. SOB-II album I have and Sonic Seasonings has `Wendy` on it.

    20 years ago, I build my own monophonic synthesizer using (I think, it's been a while) 755 and 756 Voltage Controlled Oscillators with Bob Moog and Wendy clearly being the motivation.
    We (had a friend in with me) built a 1-octave key bank and kept most everything on breadboards.
    We did etch a few copper plates for our circuits but it was a cool project.

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  87. Sad news, but celebrate his life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wasn't happy to hear about the news of his death. I just sent him some cheerfull words a month ago after learning of his illness, my mother went through the same but she survived. I am so sick of hearing about brain tumors, the thought make me sick. Anyway, if you are a fan of any type of music, Moog has influenced it in some way. I still dream of owning a Minimoog and/or micromoog. I havent seen anything that could replace one of these on the market today. Even virtual instruments. No one has been able to capture the magic of those instruments. ... I fade away thinking about a moog bassline.

    RIP Mr. Moog, your contributions will never be forgotten. Thanks.

  88. Moog! by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


    I remember being a kid and listening to this album over and over and over again on my father's 4-channel system (while tripping out on the cover art).

    My father still has that old Sansui quadrophonic setup (and the original speakers).

    Come to think of it, he might still have this vinyl sitting in the middle of his "Kingston Trio" collection...

  89. I feel love by Arru · · Score: 1

    Clarification: MS10 and SQ10 are Korg models, although of the same popular analog design as Moog's pioneering equipment about 10 years earlier.

    Regarding I Feel Love (1977), it's likely the first sequencer track heard by the big audience, and yet today it's got an interesting balance between catchiness and experimentation. Also uncannily true to later formulations of techno...

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  90. No worries by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    just change the wikipedia entry, and then he will have it right.

  91. Seriously? by th3space · · Score: 1

    A punk rock website beat you to this news...punk...rock. This is a tech website...a tech site that lost to a dinky (by /. standards, at least) site ostensibly dedicated to a style of music that has historically eschewed the use of such techie devices (not strictly, mind, but by and large). I have actually lost most of the respect I had remaining for good ol' slashdot...

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  92. Met him once by $lanza · · Score: 1

    He came to speak at a music store where I was working in Chicago about 10 years ago that sold Theramins. I knew a little about what he'd done, but didn't really grasp the bredth of his life and experiences at the time, which is probably good, because I just had a normal conversation with him in the storage room about soup and travelling in Africa. I recall that he was not afraid to pass gas audibly in front of you, which was somehow almost endearing, when juxtaposed with his candor. He was interesting to talk with and kinder than I expect someone with his fame to be.

  93. Moog Inspired My Career in Electronics by dprice · · Score: 1

    When I was about 8, I remember hearing Switched on Bach in someone's car. The sound of the Moog synthesizer intrigued me, and after that point I tried to find recordings and information about synthesizers. In my teens, I started tinkering with electronics kits to make various oscillator circuits, and I continued to collect synthesizer related material. I went into electrical engineering in college and have since made a career out of electronics.

    Just last year, I bought a Moog Theremin, which included an instructional DVD with an introduction by Bob Moog. It was nice to see one of my childhood heroes on the DVD. Some kids are inspired by people like football players, baseball player, or firemen; my inspiration was Bob Moog.

  94. Farewell, Dr. Moog by TheOldCrow · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dr. Moog was perhaps the best at bridging the gap between artists and technology. He'd be the first to admit he was not the first synthesizer inventor, but he is widely regarded as the synthesizer pioneer because he worked closely with musicians to bring the technology out of the lab and into the studio. Many of his modules are the direct result of trial-and-error testing: he would build a module, say a coincidence switch, then have for example W. Carlos try to work with it and get feedback on what it did well and what needed improvement. It was several years of this sort of engineering->field use->feedback cycle that resulted in the Moog 15, Minimoog and so on. This was Bob's true skill: being able to turn the desires of the musician into something they could actually use.

        Bob's booth at NAMM was a dozen feet from ours from 2001-2003. Bob was such a low-key guy, he often did what lots what other highbrow names in the music industry wouldn't do: he would do things himself. I still remember when he was there alone in the booth, tweaking one of his Minimoog Voyagers, and needed to borrow a soldering iron. Our booth's boss--who like the rest of us staffing the booth became EEs and synthgeeks *because* of the affable white-haired Doctor--had one when Bob walked over to politely ask to use it:

    http://www.oldcrows.net/synthshop/moog_setup.jpg

        That picture is what Bob was all about. Always tweaking, never afraid to do whatever was needed himself, even when it was showtime.

        Goodbye, Bob--you were a great teacher but an even greater friend.

  95. Re:Fuck you Moog (apples and oranges) by farmkid · · Score: 1

    > The basis of electronica is the Darmstadt electronic compositions of the 1950s

    Well, they were preceeded by the Theramin, so 'basis' may be a bit strong.

    But a key point is that Stockhausen and Ligeti were composers who, like Harry Partch, created instruments as a biproduct of creating their music. To a significant degree, when the music was done, so was the instrument.

    Moog was an instrument builder only, and his efforts toward perfecting his machines continued for decades.

    In summary, his contribution is that of enabling musicians, not that of creating works per se. And we can hope that his impact will far outlast that of Stockhausen :-)

  96. MY GOAL by nilbog · · Score: 1

    My goal is to live my life such that I am mentioned on a slashdot blurb when I die.

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    1. Re:MY GOAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's easy... just make like Harris and Klebold.

  97. Moog at a gig by david.given · · Score: 1
    I remember hearing... I don't know when... that once when there was a band, heavily into synth, who were doing a concert and Robert Moog happened to be around. During the interval they were talking backstage, and the band members managed to persuade him to come on stage at the beginning of the second half.

    The audience went absolutely apeshit. Everyone there knew about him, about the instruments, and to say they were glad to see him was an understatement --- the way it was reported to me he got more applause than the band did.

    Does anyone remember this story? Can anyone provide references?

  98. Re:Fuck you Moog by khallow · · Score: 1
    Against electronic music: synthesizer and samplers sounds very good with little to no effort or talent. Therefore, a whole generation of people without talent, or the ability or patience to learn to play an instrument through years or practice, started to spew out what they think is music, but really isn't much more than a cold, soulless collection of sounds at best.

    Assuming for the moment that you're right about the skill required for real electronic synthesizers rather than the toys. What is the problem? I get the feeling that we're supposed to defer all creativity to a group of elite musicians. Ie, if you haven't practiced for X period of years, then you're not supposed to generate music good or bad?

  99. Sigh, another icon dead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First Stephen King, now Dr Moog. Truly American icons.

  100. Moog set the standard by Wansu · · Score: 1


    ... by which other electronic instruments would be judged. Tone is king and I've yet to heard anything that can create the incredible variety of tones his synthesizers could produce. Only a handful of artists were able to tap into it's full potential. Much of the synth work I subsequently heard in the 80s and 90s just didn't touch the early stuff played on the massive Moog Modular by Keith Emerson and Walter/Wendy Carlos.

    I own a Moogerfooger Low Pass Filter (and a Control Panel) and it is way cool as an effect pedal. It's also an engineering momument.

    The music world will miss you Bob. I hope Moog Music lives on and continues to produce innovative products.

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  101. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better shit than any of you asswipes care about. Whitesnake, Warrant, Poison, any of them could kick your sorry ass.

  102. Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Chamberlin came before the Mellotone.

  103. Info Brought to You By by pin_gween · · Score: 1

    Lawpoop, as in rhymes with "scoop", not "ope" like the Catholic leader. ;)

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  104. Some Moog music you may want to check out... by Beek · · Score: 1

    A collection of electropop records. Most of them feature the Moog as the main instrument.

    Off the top of my head, these are the albums I own that utilize the moog:
    Hugo Montenegro - Moog Power
    Hugo Montenegro - Neil's Diamonds
    Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior
    Edan - Beauty And The Beat

    There is a distinct sound with the moog. I'm not a musician, so maybe it's an effect I'm making up, but I notice it.

    Still looking for a copy of Moog Indigo on vinyl.

  105. A great man, leaving behind a wide wake by Cliff+Stoll · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From 1968 to 1973, I worked with Robert Moog.

    I was just an undergraduate, assigned to maintain the synthesizer at the University/Buffalo; Bob would often visit and show me nifty wrinkles and hacks for the system. It was a time when your fingers were likely found on a sliderule, an oscilloscope probe, or the cork of a soldering iron.

    For his large synthesizers, Moog's circuit cards were etched and soldered by hand, and fitted into a wood frame work, with a spiffy black anodized front panel. The potentiometers were a constant headache: even milspec pots developed noise after a month of hard use by musicians.

    Bob standardized on one volt per octave for his voltage controlled oscillators; my job was keeping these working ... along with Bode ring oscillators, third-octave vocoders, two flat-plate echo chambers, and a handful of multitrack Ampex tape decks.

    A visit from Bob Moog might mean experimenting with nonlinear mixers, measuring how an audio expander could minimize apparent noise, or the Fourier transforms of trumpets and coronets. With patch cords hanging around his neck, Bob helped rewire my homebrew Theramin to minimize drift, using a 2N107 germanium transistor as a thermal sensor.

    Thirty five years later, I've been an astronomer, computer jock, writer, lecturer, and Klein Bottle mogul. But I'll never forget Bob Moog ... a creative engineer, artistically aware, supportive of everyone from egocentric musician to a hopeful but uncertain technician.

    - Cliff Stoll 2005/8/22

    1. Re:A great man, leaving behind a wide wake by cburley · · Score: 1
      A visit from Bob Moog might mean [...] the Fourier transforms of trumpets and coronets.

      And just how does one perform a Fourier transform on a coronet, I wonder?

      ;-)

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  106. We are getting closer and closer... by ModernGeek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...to the realization of the civil war. It is the working class vs. the non working class, and as our time traveling friend John Titor teaches us. He told us this war will start between 2004-2005 and we won't fully realize it until 2008. None of it will come as a suprise, it will be organized police establishments vs. rednecks with automatic shotguns. It will happen slowly in phases. People in rural areas will be marked as terrorists, and seen as a threat to the new, totalitarian government. Everything will be so gradual, we will never even notice it. Thanks to Russia, they will step in and speak for the non working class, and put an end to it. In 2036 our generator will be seen as the generation who had it all and pissed it away. We will be seen as lazy as we watched our government take away our rights, and our country. Things like this raid will become more and more common as time passes, and noone will think a thing about it. Titor said since he told us these things, we have a chance of stopping the civil war, but he thinks we won't. Three billion people will die, and the world is gonna have to start from scratch.

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  107. on a related note... by utexaspunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    there's a great documentary on the life of Leon Theremin called Theremin - an electronic odyssey, in which Bob Moog is featured prominently. It also has a hilarious interview with Brian Wilson, who appears to be stoned out of his gourd. A definite must-see...

    1. Re:on a related note... by Eggman27 · · Score: 1

      We actually had to WATCH that movie for one of the classes I had with the aforementioned music tech professor. I remember the whole class laughing their asses off during Brian Wilson's section.

  108. Compact??? Easy to use??? by Insensitive_Claudio · · Score: 2, Informative

    "the first compact, easy-to-use synthesizer"

    Having used a Mini-Moog, I can tell you it is far from compact, and it is certainly not easy to use. Other than that, the Mini is nothing short of brilliance. Two VCOs form the basis of its authoritative sound. It falls short of a full blown ADSR, but it gets the job done.

    One interesting thing I read is that there was a club that used to have jam sessions where guys would bring out their Minis and set them all to the same EXACT settings and exhibit completely different sounds.

    The digital reproductions can't hold a candle... but those analogs could NEVER stay in tune...

    1. Re:Compact??? Easy to use??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Minimoog has three oscillators. The third can be used either as an audio sorce, or for modulating the others.

      And a Minimoog is compact and easy to use, at least compared to a Moog (or Buchla) modular. I can carry one with ease.

  109. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, right.

    Poison is one of the most talentless group of instrument owners ever to walk on a stage. The drummer couldn't keep a beat to save his life.

    Warrant and Whitesnake played tasteless boring crap like most hair metal bands, but at least they knew how to play.

    I bet you're a Skid Row fan too. Wanker.

  110. Amazing Grace played on a Theremin... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 1

    ...perhaps would be more fitting.

  111. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Gottlieb Daimler invented the basis for the automobile, but Henry Ford made thost technologies much more accessable to the masses.

  112. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snipped Off Cock... or something

  113. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enjoy your "advanced apes banging on skins and thrapping amplified metal cords" music, you unsophisticated dipshit. Just don't try and beat us over the head with your lack of breadth, mmkay?

  114. Re:Fuck you Moog (apples and oranges) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stockhausen isn't as bad as he sounds.

  115. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But there are a whole host of people for whom songs built from a loops and a few simple keyboard phrases don't appeal.

    Yes.

    Therefore, it's a question of the listener's taste rather than musician's ability.

    Yes. Taste is subjective. But that doesn't change the fact that talent does matter. Within any genre of music, or any kind of art, certain people will have wider and deeper appeal than others. Those people are generally called 'talented'.

    "All bad poetry is honest." said Oscar Wilde. And by that, he meant that 'bad' poetry had great emotional significance to the person who wrote it, but very little for everyone else. You can say the same for all art, really.

    Now that we've established that there is a certain general definition of 'good' and 'bad', even though it is subjective on the individual level. It follows that within different art forms the proportions of work which is 'good' versus that which is 'bad' could be different.

    What I think the grandparent meant, was that the lower the barrier to entry of an art form (such as electronic music versus classical), the higher the proportion of 'bad' stuff.

    One rationale for this would be that the barrier of entry to the medium matters less to a person with a strong need to express themselves. And that a stronger need to express yourself generally corresponds to an expression which resonates with more people. (and thus is 'better').

    A poem takes less effort to write than a complete book, so you'd expect a bigger proportion 'bad' poetry than 'bad' novels. (and that's my experience, anyway) It takes more effort to write a symphony than a pop song. So the same goes there. And it takes less effort to write a minimalistic electronic piece than a song requiring a full band.

    That doesn't mean that one medium is worse than the other! You can't compare works of art between different mediums. But I believe it does say something about the proportion.

    In the field of minimalistic electronic music, Kraftwerk is perhaps the biggest group. They've sold millions of records. I don't think any have been as successful. So that means a large group of people out there must like Kraftwerk, but not other music in the same medium.

    So no, it's not about the medium itself. There is a difference which comes from the artist's own ability.

  116. Not a song but my fave with the Moog. by Martix · · Score: 1

    Switched on Bach. Got it on Vinyl Should make a CD for the car

  117. Re: Bob Moog by unitron · · Score: 1
    "20 years ago, I build my own monophonic synthesizer using (I think, it's been a while) 755 and 756 Voltage Controlled Oscillators..."

    The 7555 is the low power CMOS version of the 555 timer chip (and the 556 is two of them on one chip-the 558 is a quad version), but perhaps you mean the 565 Phase-locked Loop and 566 Voltage controlled Function Generator (which were also used in conjunction with the 567 tone decoder in home brew Touch-Tone systems).

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  118. Re:Fuck you Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The irony of this is that one of Whitesnake's guitarists (Steve Vai) mourned Moog's passing.

  119. You are ommiting a fundamental detail.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Were there any drugs during the concert?

    If yes, sorry, no simpathy, it is illegal, you should change the assholes that govern you.

    If not, then ,yeah, maybe you are living that mini Orwellian nightmare we perceive from outside the US.

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    1. Re:You are ommiting a fundamental detail.... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      You are ommitting a fundamental detail. There are drugs at every concert. Are you seriously suggesting we raid every dance club and booze hall in the country?

      My point is the electronic music listeners are singled out as a part of culture war. When was the last time you heard about a phish show being shut down by grunts in fatigues with assault rifles? Wouldn't that piss you off just a little bit? If not phish, how about Bon Jovi or U2? There's more heroin and coke at any U2 show than at any rave or phish show. Anyway. even if a few patrons have drugs, does that justify the whole event being shut down?

      Think about it this way, what's the worst case scenario at a rave? If things went really really wrong there could be beatings, guns drawn, kidnappings even. Our police are trying to prevent that by doing the same thing! This is curing the disease by killing the patient!

      In a way you're right. This kind of military action is the only way to stop peaceful people from doing drugs at a peaceful party. The only hope of winning the war on drugs is a scorched earth policy, and our constitutional rights are the first casualties.

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  120. Re: Bob Moog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    20 years ago, I build my own monophonic synthesizer using (I think, it's been a while) 755 and 756 Voltage Controlled Oscillators with Bob Moog and Wendy clearly being the motivation.


    20 years ago.

    1985.

    Seems like an awful lot of trouble. Why didn't you just go down to the music store and buy a DX-7?

  121. Bob Moog's Family Guestbook by AUDIOMIND · · Score: 1
  122. Mark Parent as Troll by Pope · · Score: 1

    QUOTE: Where would Rob Malda be without all of the handjobs he gave to Moog?

    Very clever. :rolleyes:

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  123. Re: Bob Moog by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    If the only interesting thing about Wendy Carlos is the different name on her earlier albums you're missing a very important point (and have big problems with your own sexuality).

    I've heard being transgendered compared to a prison sentence: you've done your time, you've paid your debt to society, but some assholes just won't let you move on and forget something you'd really rather put behind you.

    Personally, I'd rather listen to her breathtakingly beautiful (and deliciously weird) Beauty in the Beast. Of her early stuff, my fave remains The Well-Tempered Synthesizer.

    ...laura

  124. Re: Bob Moog by Golias · · Score: 1

    Well, the other thing interesting about it is that a name-change is involved, so not everybody realizes that its the same person.

    The only point I was making was that the Walter Carlos who recorded "Switched on Bach" was the same person as the Wendy Carlos the grandparent was raving about.

    Not every mention of a sex-change is an assult on the person's lifestyle choice. Try not to be so hypersensitive.

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  125. I Know The History by Black-Man · · Score: 1

    And it doesn't change the facts that he had his name on this crap gear and where was the innovation after the mini-moog? The Multi-moog? The Micro-moog?? Just repackaged.

  126. Robots, Computers and Satan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I don't know about Robots and Computers but Bob Moog had nothing to do with Satan. Many people might be surprised to know that he was a devout Jew. He and his wife frequently hosted seders in his home for their friends and family. There's a beautiful photo of him on the caringbridge.com site showing this.

  127. Re: Bob Moog by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    There is a fine line between accuracy and assholism, and many of the postings in this thread are on the wrong side of the line.

    Sad, but this is Slashdot, so I'm not disappointed. Just embarrassed.

    ...laura

  128. Thank you Moog by onemorechip · · Score: 1
    Amen to that...No digital synth can touch the Moog. As for samplers -- well, I do like the Mellotron sound but it is much more limited in timbre variations, and while you can sample a Moog with a modern digital sampler it would never be the same. A given filter envelope will produce a different sound for every note on the keyboard, and the sampler will have a hard time capturing those nuances.

    I wonder if the troll was confusing sequencers and synthesizers. A sequencer could substitute for talent but a synth could not.

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  129. Thanks Bob by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    Fond memories of Keith Emerson

    If I'd been a little richer I'd have bought one, but I had to settle for a crappy Arp 2600 with tiny girlie jacks.

    RIP

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  130. Re: Bob Moog by Ucklak · · Score: 1

    (why anonymous?)

    DX-7 was too expensive and we didn't have any money.

    We nickeled and dimed everything we could. We worked in an electronics lab environment in the entertainment sector so most of the tools and supplies were readily available.
    The only things we had to buy were (as I remember):
    switches for the keys
    most of the power supply
    565 and 566 chips

    We used spare plastic sheets for the keyboard and had tons of spare wire.

    We wanted to by a keyboard shell for our keyboard but that was $200. The other option was use a toy piano and that was $60 which was too much at the time for our budget.
    So we used enough switches for 1 octave and had a dial that changed the frequency for the other octaves.

    It was a pretty cool experiment/project

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