What's interesting is the link in the article points to another discusion group at technocrat.net. Is this a valid source of information? It would be analogus to quoting another usenet post and claiming it to be both news worthy and factual.
4) I'm from the government and here to help.
3) I won't ____ in your mouth.
2) Micros~1 products are stable.
1) I read it on the internet, so it must be true.
I would feel more comfortable actually reading the GPL in this story.
From the page:In brief, the experiment calls for you to install a unique, state-of-the art climate model on your home PC and keep it running, possibly for a year or more.
Wow, that's quite a commitment. I haven't made that kind of commitment to some programing languages.;)
First Distibuted.net, then Seti, now Casino-21. These are all wonderful solutions to large scale computing problems. I've been running Seti@, and Distributed for a while now, and (like most of you) I'm happy to give back to the comunity when ever I can.
Spare computing horsepower (being a comodity that it is) is a powerful resource. Combining this with the faster/chaper connections (DSL/Cable) can make some comuting problems within reach!
So why hasn't someone tryed to build a comercial model of this computeting solution? I'de gladly leave my home puter logged on for a few pennies a day. (Ebay?! are you listening?)
" Madonna: Thank you for saying these compliments [holds up hands]. Please stop with taking sensationalist photographs until I have removed my garments for all to see [laughs]. This is a joke I have made. " LOL
I think it's nice to see major companys throwing there name behind Linux and it's cause. HP has over 100,000 employees worldwide and had total revenue of $47.1 billion in its 1998.
In the famous words of many US congressmen, 'a billion here, a billion there, sooner or later, that's real money!'
The thing that makes our little medium (Web/Ecomerce) so popular is open, and well documented protocols. These open protocols (TCP/IP, HTTP, CGI, HTML, cookies) makes it possible for anyone with MySQL and to much spare time to create a wonderfully interactive and customizable interface.(read Rob);)
This is a good thing. This good thing attracts a potentially huuuuuuge audience (read/.) and can be a base for building the foundation for Ecomerce . What's most interesting, is that the one thing that makes it so accessible (open, and well documented protocals) is also the one thing that makes it easy to duplicate.
Now, when an Ecomerce company goes public and looks for outside investors, the one thing investors want to here is ROI. They want to hear that you have something none else has. Something nobody can duplicate. something . . ....wait for it . ....proprietary. (cringe)
I work for a large machine tool manufacturer and I use this wonderful little phrase (It's patented!) everyday in my pitch to clients. I even hand them a printout of our companies patent on each little piece of technology in the machine and I walk them through the value of each one.
Does this mean that it's a defensive patent? No! Is it a patent that our legal department fights tooth and nail? Hell no! Are there others using the patented technologies in there machine tool? Yes! Do we care?.. not really . . we still get to use that wonderful little sales tool (patented!) in our presentation.
Abstract A method and system for placing an order to purchase an item via the Internet. The order is placed by a purchaser at a client system and received by a server system. The server system receives purchaser information including identification of the purchaser, payment information, and shipment information from the client system. The server system then assigns a client identifier to the client system and associates the assigned client identifier with the received purchaser information. The server system sends to the client system the assigned client identifier and an HTML document identifying the item and including an order button. The client system receives and stores the assigned client identifier and receives and displays the HTML document. In response to the selection of the order button, the client system sends to the server system a request to purchase the identified item. The server system receives the request and combines the purchaser information associated with the client identifier of the client system to generate an order to purchase the item in accordance with the billing and shipment information whereby the purchaser effects the ordering of the product by selection of the order button.and this was granted?!
Re: your comments: I would instead suggest that a computer language which is widely adopted and solves a significant class of problems would be a better choice
Then Dennis Richie is the obvious choice. He invented C and used C to invent UNIX
Re: your comments:Shouldn't the people who spend their lives bettering the field, which very directly affects science, get a Nobel prize as well? I say yes. Guess who I'd nominate first?
Don't forget Micros~1 Bob(tm)..the revelutionary user interface! (gasp-gag)
(cmon' now..who else besides me remembers this MS Bob thing????)
And that wonderfull little paper-clip OOOooooo that's NOT cutting edge, baby !
Fast is, IBM has great labs. They are one of the only "new technology" companys around. Wasn't it just last week they set a new record *again* for drive density?
From the article:IBM has been training its sales force to offer Linux to customers and even has 300 Linux specialists in its Global Services Division. IBM also works with Linux vendor Caldera Systems to train resellers to deliver Linux offerings. IBM has an army of a sales force, and they have there fingers in many diverse industries. In effect, IBM is going to evagilize the cause of Linux to many people that wouldn't normally consider it as a viable networking solution.
The last time IBM threw it's sales force behind a new technology, it brought on the PC revolution of the 80s. Now, refocused (and restricted from antitrust practices), IBM is taking on an open source deved OS and will make a strong push for a good position in the networking revolution of the 21st century.
I for one welcome IBM to the fold, and hope they eventually give back to open dev comunity that has given so much.
Welcome to the next century, IBM (IttyBittyMachines)
1) Find some pimple faced kid just graduating from some mid-western college
2) Convince said programer that his software can 'change the world'.
3) Convince said programer to convince his friends to join (at slave labor wages).
4) Add one part VC and 2 parts underwriting . . simmer ..and Poof! IPO.
5) Keep breathing life into it for another 2 years while lining up a buyer for the company (and waiting untill the SEC lets you excersise your options).
6) Cash out. Begin at step one.
Did I miss anything ?
Re:Mosaic 0.9 to Mozilla M10...a look back.
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Thanks for the good feedback. Yes I left the original copyright and banner adds on the article so that there is no confusion as to the source. Also, Wired still gets the banner hits without the bandwidth. I make no claim that the content is my own, and even refer the source of the original post. Soon after this slashdotpost calms down, I'll take the page down. I hope this clears up any confusion.
Saying there is a shortage of skilled workers in the hitech industry is like the NBA saying there is a shortage of players in the league. There isn't a shortage of players, there's just a shortage of _GOOD_ players.
2008 Steve Balmer takes assumes CEO position of Microsoft Inc.
2010 Lord Torvalds is voted in control of the DOJ mandated Microsoft Open Source tree.
2011 Mrs. Gates confirms the rumors that her husband Bill has always been insane, and is finaly getting profesional help.
2012 Linux kernel 5.5.4 is simultanoisly distoed to the worlds computers over 10Gps optical lines.
2013Dennis Richie recieves a nobel prize for his life long work in technology.
2014 CEO Steve Balmer gets pissed drunk at a frat party and blathers "Hi-Tech? fuuuuck,the OS is simple, a kid could write it!" (MS stock slides below $10 for the 5th time that year)
2015 CEO of WorldcomOL, Steve Chase, turns down a sell offer from Microsoft
2016 Microsoft is purchased by RedHatWorldcomOL ($4 a share). The source is used to training new programers how *not* to write code.
2017 Bill Gates (while serving his 20 years) is forced to actually try to use his products. He spends his later years sucking his thumb waiting for his micros~1 computer to reboot.
What have they accomplished? How for have they gotten? What have they contributed to the comunity? Lets step back for a second and look at the big picture.
This is he original press release of Mosiac 0.9 in 1994, just 5 short years ago. Mosiac featured , among other things, "Native support for the JPEG image format"(which was a big deal at the time!)
One of the more interesting quotes in a Wired article is one of the First Review of Mosiac 0.9 (a fantastic,sometimes funny, look back in time) features some quotes from then VP of technology Marc Anreesen. "If the company does well, I do pretty well," says Andreessen. "If the company doesn't do well" - his voice takes on a note of mock despair - "I work at Microsoft."
In just 5 years, Netscape has helped redefine the IT landscape, and has forced a lot of people to look again at the multi-platform delevopment model. As they rewrite the code base for the 21st centrury, Lets not be so hard on the team that has given so much.
>But if bill could do it all over again, would he do it different? not likely.
It's exactly this kind of thinking that makes windows such a poor product. you say "there's no real advantage in being technically superior" and applaud the company that delivers more of the same?
So in other words, you're very happy paying BIG money for an OS that is technically inferior , but is good for MS cash flow? (read:vig) You're the one opening your wallet..stand up....stand proud...demand an operating system that actually operates.
Stop subsidizing Bills coke habit. (What else could motivate such terrible software?)
On the technical issue, I mean think about it. . Lets consider a very honest/valient/ethical programer who took it upon himslef to solve every little nit-picking problem in wordstar. After taking years to discover/fix/workaround nearly every flaw, He relreases to a world running 5Ghz processors and 1Gig of Ram. It's a matter of scale. And until that one thing changes (Speed/AmountOfRAM) changes, all this talk is just pissing in the wind.
On the legal issue, I think the lack of liability most software companies enjoy is scandelous. I think Netscapes "Talkback" is a step in the right direction, They may not be taking libility for the crash, but at least NS pretends to care.
We have a sectrtary in our office who is constantly dealing with a crashing windows PC. Whenever it crashes, she diligently writes down the stack dump numbers and emails it off to MS. Day after day, week after week, her problems go unresponded to. I like the service model for software...it's part of getting a task done, and if it's not performing said task, MS shouldn't get payed that day.
Most software sucks because of Moores law. Until researchers "hit a wall" in processing power , what posible insentives to people have to maintain/treek/improve/optimize code when it's going to be scaled out of relevance in a year? I think Moores law/marketingtrend could slow down just a little bit.
See this story for details on the Jobs and Woz blue boxen. This PBS documentory (by Mr. Cringley) gives a very good look back at how computer came to be, and where they are going.
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If there's anything we can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask. I'm just glad nobody got hurt.
4) I'm from the government and here to help.
3) I won't ____ in your mouth.
2) Micros~1 products are stable.
1) I read it on the internet, so it must be true.
I would feel more comfortable actually reading the GPL in this story.
Wow, that's quite a commitment. I haven't made that kind of commitment to some programing languages. ;)
Spare computing horsepower (being a comodity that it is) is a powerful resource. Combining this with the faster/chaper connections (DSL/Cable) can make some comuting problems within reach!
So why hasn't someone tryed to build a comercial model of this computeting solution? I'de gladly leave my home puter logged on for a few pennies a day. (Ebay?! are you listening?)
ahhh yes...babelfish can be fun :)
babelfish
" Madonna: Thank you for saying these compliments [holds up hands]. Please stop with taking sensationalist photographs until I have removed my garments for all to see [laughs]. This is a joke I have made. " LOL
I think it's nice to see major companys throwing there name behind Linux and it's cause. HP has over 100,000 employees worldwide and had total revenue of $47.1 billion in its 1998.
In the famous words of many US congressmen, 'a billion here, a billion there, sooner or later, that's real money!'
This is a good thing. This good thing attracts a potentially huuuuuuge audience (read /.) and can be a base for building the foundation for Ecomerce . What's most interesting, is that the one thing that makes it so accessible (open, and well documented protocals) is also the one thing that makes it easy to duplicate.
Now, when an Ecomerce company goes public and looks for outside investors, the one thing investors want to here is ROI. They want to hear that you have something none else has. Something nobody can duplicate. something . . . ...wait for it . . ...proprietary. (cringe)
I work for a large machine tool manufacturer and I use this wonderful little phrase (It's patented!) everyday in my pitch to clients. I even hand them a printout of our companies patent on each little piece of technology in the machine and I walk them through the value of each one.
Does this mean that it's a defensive patent? No! Is it a patent that our legal department fights tooth and nail? Hell no! Are there others using the patented technologies in there machine tool? Yes! Do we care?.. not really . . we still get to use that wonderful little sales tool (patented!) in our presentation.
It's a sales tool. That's all
Abstract A method and system for placing an order to purchase an item via the Internet. The order is placed by a purchaser at a client system and received by a server system. The server system receives purchaser information including identification of the purchaser, payment information, and shipment information from the client system. The server system then assigns a client identifier to the client system and associates the assigned client identifier with the received purchaser information. The server system sends to the client system the assigned client identifier and an HTML document identifying the item and including an order button. The client system receives and stores the assigned client identifier and receives and displays the HTML document. In response to the selection of the order button, the client system sends to the server system a request to purchase the identified item. The server system receives the request and combines the purchaser information associated with the client identifier of the client system to generate an order to purchase the item in accordance with the billing and shipment information whereby the purchaser effects the ordering of the product by selection of the order button. and this was granted?!
Then Dennis Richie is the obvious choice. He invented C and used C to invent UNIX
nuff said?
a Nobel Prise for CS . . ummm lemme guess..
could it be ummmm . .
parhaps the legendary . .
the open source revolutionary . .
one and only . .
the Jimmy Kimal to my Ben Stein. .
the master of disaster . . .
king o' crackers . .
that freaky phreaker . .
a real geeks geek . .
the churnin hunk o' burnin' funk . .
better than bevis. . .
doper than dilbert . .
the king of all coders . .
the big man! . .
Malda!?
ummm yea, ok...he doesn't suck ;)
Don't forget Micros~1 Bob(tm)..the revelutionary user interface! (gasp-gag)
(cmon' now..who else besides me remembers this MS Bob thing????)
And that wonderfull little paper-clip OOOooooo that's NOT cutting edge, baby !
Fast is, IBM has great labs. They are one of the only "new technology" companys around. Wasn't it just last week they set a new record *again* for drive density?
The last time IBM threw it's sales force behind a new technology, it brought on the PC revolution of the 80s. Now, refocused (and restricted from antitrust practices), IBM is taking on an open source deved OS and will make a strong push for a good position in the networking revolution of the 21st century.
I for one welcome IBM to the fold, and hope they eventually give back to open dev comunity that has given so much.
Welcome to the next century, IBM (IttyBittyMachines)
1) Find some pimple faced kid just graduating from some mid-western college
2) Convince said programer that his software can 'change the world'.
3) Convince said programer to convince his friends to join (at slave labor wages).
4) Add one part VC and 2 parts underwriting . . simmer . .and Poof! IPO.
5) Keep breathing life into it for another 2 years while lining up a buyer for the company (and waiting untill the SEC lets you excersise your options).
6) Cash out. Begin at step one.
Did I miss anything ?
Thanks for the good feedback. Yes I left the original copyright and banner adds on the article so that there is no confusion as to the source. Also, Wired still gets the banner hits without the bandwidth. I make no claim that the content is my own, and even refer the source of the original post. Soon after this slashdotpost calms down, I'll take the page down. I hope this clears up any confusion.
Saying there is a shortage of skilled workers in the hitech industry is like the NBA saying there is a shortage of players in the league. There isn't a shortage of players, there's just a shortage of _GOOD_ players.
2010 Lord Torvalds is voted in control of the DOJ mandated Microsoft Open Source tree.
2011 Mrs. Gates confirms the rumors that her husband Bill has always been insane, and is finaly getting profesional help.
2012 Linux kernel 5.5.4 is simultanoisly distoed to the worlds computers over 10Gps optical lines.
2013Dennis Richie recieves a nobel prize for his life long work in technology.
2014 CEO Steve Balmer gets pissed drunk at a frat party and blathers "Hi-Tech? fuuuuck,the OS is simple, a kid could write it!" (MS stock slides below $10 for the 5th time that year)
2015 CEO of WorldcomOL, Steve Chase, turns down a sell offer from Microsoft
2016 Microsoft is purchased by RedHatWorldcomOL ($4 a share). The source is used to training new programers how *not* to write code.
2017 Bill Gates (while serving his 20 years) is forced to actually try to use his products. He spends his later years sucking his thumb waiting for his micros~1 computer to reboot.
This is he original press release of Mosiac 0.9 in 1994, just 5 short years ago. Mosiac featured , among other things, "Native support for the JPEG image format"(which was a big deal at the time!)
One of the more interesting quotes in a Wired article is one of the First Review of Mosiac 0.9 (a fantastic,sometimes funny, look back in time) features some quotes from then VP of technology Marc Anreesen. "If the company does well, I do pretty well," says Andreessen. "If the company doesn't do well" - his voice takes on a note of mock despair - "I work at Microsoft."
In just 5 years, Netscape has helped redefine the IT landscape, and has forced a lot of people to look again at the multi-platform delevopment model. As they rewrite the code base for the 21st centrury, Lets not be so hard on the team that has given so much.
It's exactly this kind of thinking that makes windows such a poor product. you say "there's no real advantage in being technically superior" and applaud the company that delivers more of the same?
So in other words, you're very happy paying BIG money for an OS that is technically inferior , but is good for MS cash flow? (read:vig) You're the one opening your wallet..stand up....stand proud...demand an operating system that actually operates.
Stop subsidizing Bills coke habit. (What else could motivate such terrible software?)
fire up the jargon file...I think we've got one
IRON ON! sheees...keep it simple
On the legal issue, I think the lack of liability most software companies enjoy is scandelous. I think Netscapes "Talkback" is a step in the right direction, They may not be taking libility for the crash, but at least NS pretends to care.
We have a sectrtary in our office who is constantly dealing with a crashing windows PC. Whenever it crashes, she diligently writes down the stack dump numbers and emails it off to MS. Day after day, week after week, her problems go unresponded to. I like the service model for software...it's part of getting a task done, and if it's not performing said task, MS shouldn't get payed that day.
Most software sucks because of Moores law. Until researchers "hit a wall" in processing power , what posible insentives to people have to maintain/treek/improve/optimize code when it's going to be scaled out of relevance in a year? I think Moores law/marketingtrend could slow down just a little bit.
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Openwolly in 2.3 . . yea. yea. yea. we could Beowulf them muthas.