Too many provocative comments on here by people who don't back up what they say with a name.
and what is to be done about it that will not destroy the global economy, which can and will also leave thousands starving and without medical aid
The global economy will suffer greatly when we have totally destroyed the earth. Which may have already been accomplished. Leaving billions starving and without medical aid.
Yes, the climate has always changed, and it always will, and climate changes in the past have brought about mass extinctions, and the climate has never changed anywhere close to the rate that it is currently.
Like any Western company doing major business with China, Cisco has had to jump through all sorts of hoops, hand over a large amount control of local operations to party apparatchiks and work under contracts that change significantly and frequently after being signed.
They don't actually have to do any of that, assuming that a legitimate scenario is to not do business with China at all. Which of course it is not.
Cisco is in too deep to take a stand at this point, they have more to lose than the CCP does. The CCP has demonstrated repeatedly that human rights aren't a concern for them and given their hostile reaction whenever a Western government or NGO (Nobel Committee) explicitly or implicitly criticizes their human rights record they aren't exactly concerned about their international image either. Cisco on the other hand pretty much can't win this no matter what they do. Just like most any Western company doing big business in China these days.
LOL! Yeah, and in this respect, the Chinese government is much more honest and open than the corporations it does business with.
No one is saying that Cisco shouldn't do business with China. You could argue that, but it isn't the issue presented here.
The issue is that Cisco has set up their equipment in such a way that it can be specifically used to violate human rights. Probably beta tested in the US under the "Patriot Act" which also violates human rights.
If you want to argue that it should be illegal to do business with countries that violate human rights, the sad fact is that no one should do business with the US. Or almost any other country for that matter.
I haven't used Photoshop in years and I'm no professional. I have used GIMP and I can say that single window is a welcome change for me.
Photoshop is good software. I haven't used it in years either, the Gimp does way more than I need. If I used it all day, every day, maybe Photoshop would be worth the megabucks, but I don't.
ever acted on these 18 patents to a significant degree? Because isn't there a chance they ignored these patents in the name of progress? Could Google end up using these to an abusive level? I'm wondering if we're going to see some evil applications by Google. Hopefully not.
Mr. Anon Coward, how do you know that Motorola hasn't used the patents? I'd say that the chances are 99% that they have, or they would have been the target for patent trolls.
Patents are useful even if you don't go around suing people over them. They are useful to keep people from suing you. Which is why Google needs them.
Why not? It's not like patenting something dcades after it was actually invented by someone else is unusual...
But not all the patents will be from 1994, just the oldest one (one would hope, since that's an expensive way to get some patents 3 years before they expire)...
Assuming that the patent lifetime does not go up in the next three years, which is not unlikely.
Can't have technology in the public commons, then anyone could use it!
Instead of one socialist state, which, while far from ideal, managed to provide livable conditions to most of its citizens, there are now three wild, impoverished areas with destroyed infrastructure and without social order, simmering in civil war.
Interesting perception there. But if there's a so-called "civil war" shouldn't there be a war first? Instead we see that the war, such as it was, ended in 2008.
Interesting point, it wasn't really a war, it was a totally illegal and unwarranted invasion by a terrorist super power bent on controlling the region for it's resources.
Because *cough*Tea Party*cough*, it looks like you can't even prevent tyranny of the minority.
It has to be tyranny first. The Tea Party also has the virtue of being on the right side of the taxation argument.
Yes, tax the poor and give it to the rich. I take it you're either one of the rich, or one of the poor that buys into the propaganda that giving all the money to the rich will help you out. LOL!
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and what is to be done about it that will not destroy the global economy, which can and will also leave thousands starving and without medical aid
The global economy will suffer greatly when we have totally destroyed the earth. Which may have already been accomplished. Leaving billions starving and without medical aid.
Yes, the climate has always changed, and it always will, and climate changes in the past have brought about mass extinctions, and the climate has never changed anywhere close to the rate that it is currently.
Too bad, Mr AC, that we keep cutting down tropical forests. It doesn't help the situation.
Do not feed the troll.
ditto. And I'm grateful too.
Said the AC Troll.
I've been running Linux non-stop since 1993, and have never looked back.
Me too, built an ISP with Linux 1993. Had a Sun box on back order, but eventually we just cancelled it and got everything working for free.
That was awesome.
Sucking up.
I didn't know that. Can't last long with Harper at the helm.
I'd like one of those!
Like any Western company doing major business with China, Cisco has had to jump through all sorts of hoops, hand over a large amount control of local operations to party apparatchiks and work under contracts that change significantly and frequently after being signed.
They don't actually have to do any of that, assuming that a legitimate scenario is to not do business with China at all. Which of course it is not.
Cisco is in too deep to take a stand at this point, they have more to lose than the CCP does. The CCP has demonstrated repeatedly that human rights aren't a concern for them and given their hostile reaction whenever a Western government or NGO (Nobel Committee) explicitly or implicitly criticizes their human rights record they aren't exactly concerned about their international image either. Cisco on the other hand pretty much can't win this no matter what they do. Just like most any Western company doing big business in China these days.
LOL! Yeah, and in this respect, the Chinese government is much more honest and open than the corporations it does business with.
Cool map, nice presentation of the data. Too bad it doesn't make sense stand alone, outside the context of the article.
Although it might be a good idea to go after the companies that sell tuns to Mexican warlords. Particularly the ones used to kill American agents.
But then, selling weapons to people that kill Americans seems to be a big business in the US, so don't waste your time.
The issue is that Cisco has set up their equipment in such a way that it can be specifically used to violate human rights. Probably beta tested in the US under the "Patriot Act" which also violates human rights.
If you want to argue that it should be illegal to do business with countries that violate human rights, the sad fact is that no one should do business with the US. Or almost any other country for that matter.
Cheney and Rumsfeld.
Who probably did it.
can you not tell the difference between a successful businessman and a dictator who controls every aspect of a country's life by military force?
LOL! That's a trick question.
Not in these interesting times.
I haven't used Photoshop in years and I'm no professional. I have used GIMP and I can say that single window is a welcome change for me.
Photoshop is good software. I haven't used it in years either, the Gimp does way more than I need. If I used it all day, every day, maybe Photoshop would be worth the megabucks, but I don't.
Long live the Gimp.
ever acted on these 18 patents to a significant degree? Because isn't there a chance they ignored these patents in the name of progress? Could Google end up using these to an abusive level? I'm wondering if we're going to see some evil applications by Google. Hopefully not.
Mr. Anon Coward, how do you know that Motorola hasn't used the patents? I'd say that the chances are 99% that they have, or they would have been the target for patent trolls.
Patents are useful even if you don't go around suing people over them. They are useful to keep people from suing you. Which is why Google needs them.
Apple is NOT a patent troll.
So says the AC.
Why not? It's not like patenting something dcades after it was actually invented by someone else is unusual...
But not all the patents will be from 1994, just the oldest one (one would hope, since that's an expensive way to get some patents 3 years before they expire)...
Assuming that the patent lifetime does not go up in the next three years, which is not unlikely.
Can't have technology in the public commons, then anyone could use it!
Actually, you should just watch Colbert. Funny guy.
First of all, Obama probably does what he is told, second of all, don't argue with the AC's (guilty) it only encourages them.
Instead of one socialist state, which, while far from ideal, managed to provide livable conditions to most of its citizens, there are now three wild, impoverished areas with destroyed infrastructure and without social order, simmering in civil war.
Interesting perception there. But if there's a so-called "civil war" shouldn't there be a war first? Instead we see that the war, such as it was, ended in 2008.
Interesting point, it wasn't really a war, it was a totally illegal and unwarranted invasion by a terrorist super power bent on controlling the region for it's resources.
but Libya is now going to end up like Iraq.
Which would be terrible if Iraq were doing badly.
What planet are you from?
Because *cough*Tea Party*cough*, it looks like you can't even prevent tyranny of the minority.
It has to be tyranny first. The Tea Party also has the virtue of being on the right side of the taxation argument.
Yes, tax the poor and give it to the rich. I take it you're either one of the rich, or one of the poor that buys into the propaganda that giving all the money to the rich will help you out. LOL!