We don't manufacture anything in North America anymore because we have environmental regulations that cost billions of dollars to comply with.
That's one reason, I doubt it's the main reason. It's cheaper to produce things in China for many reasons, mainly labour.
So this is how Reagan's trickle down economics work, give companies huge tax breaks, many pay no taxes at all, and that money will trickle down, as we have seen above, to... China.
Apple doesn't care about the planet or slave labor so long as they can make a profit. That has been the goal of Apple since Steve took over, and that's part of the reason I don't buy Apple.
A good and proper reason to boycott a corporation. The problem is ALL corporations are like that, you have to get your hardware somehow, so bending your principles with Apple or some other equally guilty company is six of one...
I have to agree with you there, I couldn't see my mother installing Linux. No chance. Of course she couldn't install any OS. I don't see how that is relevant.
Everyone seems to be insulted, and no one read the article.
The title of this post is way too inflammatory. I suppose it would be OK if everyone read the article, but they are already pissed off. All the non-programmers (and some of the programmers) feel they have been directly insulted. And without the context of the article, they have.
Basically it's a troll that evoked a flame war, it should not have been posted that way.
Yes, call us idiots. You know, not everyone is a computer programmer. There is a reason we are called the users. We use. Others make. I use a program because it does a task for me. Leave the task of writing software to those with the ability and interest to do so.
You didn't read the article, it's about people who improve the code and don't give back the improvements.
Aside from that, merely being an advocate is a good and valuable contribution to an open source project. The more users there are, the more attention a project gets, the more bug reports get filed, the more programmers hear about it and use it.... etc.
You can file bug reports, yes? It's in your own best interest to do so, and it's a good feeling merely to point out a bug and see it fixed. And it makes the software you use better.
But that isn't what the article was about, the tag line is misleading.
That said, there are other ways to contribute to open source without having to code. Being an ambassador by raising awareness (kind of like a meatspace OSALT) and providing support with help is just as valuable as the greatest bug fix check-in.
That's right. If you use FOSS to any degree, it is hypocritical of you to not act an advocate.
To Duradin, who said
So basically the GPL was created specifically to tell people what they cannot do.
In the sense that it says you cannot remove the freedoms specifically granted in the license, the yes, it does. And in the sense that it is a license and you must agree with it and uphold it, then yes it does.
Nobody's arguing that. Heck, even slavers don't enslave people for the sake of taking their freedoms from them. For the slavers, it's about selling the slaves, and for the buyers, it's about the free labor slaves provide. For Apple, it's about their style of lock-in (thus the continued revenue stream).
But you are arguing exactly that, Apple does not want you to be free to use other software. That is a restriction of your freedom, and whether you call it a cause an effect or a side effect, it is what it is.
i'm glad you didn't post anon so it can be known you're another one of those who thinks that people would agree with you if only they were as smart as you
It's a trivial bit of humour. And since it seems to have been modded up as funny, I'd suggest that there are some people who think it contributes.
OTOH, you did post anonymously. I'm sure you understand that no one gives a flying fsck about insults tossed up by a coward that can't stand up for what he says by signing his posts. In fact, you may have been the reason that it was modded up in the first place.
At the end of the day, he may not have contributed much, but you are an ass.
That is the article, you twit. The data is right there. Why did you only look at the map?
I'll speak real slow.
I did not only look at the map.
My comment was that the image does not stand alone, and it would be nice if it did, it needs the context of the article to make sense. It's a cool image, I like it, fuck off.
The twit comment is completely uncalled for, and you are an extremely rude asshole.
I think the position of the courts is that corporations have the same rights as people. People with bottomless pockets. Not entirely equal that is.
What doesn't seem to be in line is accountability. When was the last time a corporation was executed for murder?
Corporations don't pay for their crimes, we pay for their crimes. And pay and pay and pay...
I'd like to see BP torn apart for what they have done in the gulf, the same for Wall street. Revoke the charter of these world class criminals, that might have an effect. Fines don't change anything.
The clueless AC speaks again, because Al Gore gets on a plane to fly around the world speaking, one of hundreds of millions of people who fly, he is a hypocrite.
He should stay home, then he would not be a hypocrite, and we wouldn't have to listen to him speak.
Bit of a catch 22 there.
Can't blame you for not signing this lame post. It makes no sense whatsoever, and we've all heard it a hundred times.
Also, even if what you say were true, look up displacement. Volume changes when ice thaws, mass does not, so it wouldn't lower the ocean (if all the ice were floating) the level would remain the same.
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We don't manufacture anything in North America anymore because we have environmental regulations that cost billions of dollars to comply with.
That's one reason, I doubt it's the main reason. It's cheaper to produce things in China for many reasons, mainly labour.
So this is how Reagan's trickle down economics work, give companies huge tax breaks, many pay no taxes at all, and that money will trickle down, as we have seen above, to... China.
So much for that theory.
Apple doesn't care about the planet or slave labor so long as they can make a profit. That has been the goal of Apple since Steve took over, and that's part of the reason I don't buy Apple.
A good and proper reason to boycott a corporation. The problem is ALL corporations are like that, you have to get your hardware somehow, so bending your principles with Apple or some other equally guilty company is six of one...
cpunks:cpunks has been working fine... CP's not dead ;)
So it does, thank you!
Better keep this a secret.
Why would you expect your mother to do that?
The title of this post is way too inflammatory. I suppose it would be OK if everyone read the article, but they are already pissed off. All the non-programmers (and some of the programmers) feel they have been directly insulted. And without the context of the article, they have.
Basically it's a troll that evoked a flame war, it should not have been posted that way.
Yes, call us idiots. You know, not everyone is a computer programmer. There is a reason we are called the users. We use. Others make. I use a program because it does a task for me. Leave the task of writing software to those with the ability and interest to do so.
You didn't read the article, it's about people who improve the code and don't give back the improvements.
Aside from that, merely being an advocate is a good and valuable contribution to an open source project. The more users there are, the more attention a project gets, the more bug reports get filed, the more programmers hear about it and use it.... etc.
You can file bug reports, yes? It's in your own best interest to do so, and it's a good feeling merely to point out a bug and see it fixed. And it makes the software you use better.
But that isn't what the article was about, the tag line is misleading.
That said, there are other ways to contribute to open source without having to code. Being an ambassador by raising awareness (kind of like a meatspace OSALT) and providing support with help is just as valuable as the greatest bug fix check-in.
That's right. If you use FOSS to any degree, it is hypocritical of you to not act an advocate.
To Duradin, who said
So basically the GPL was created specifically to tell people what they cannot do.
In the sense that it says you cannot remove the freedoms specifically granted in the license, the yes, it does. And in the sense that it is a license and you must agree with it and uphold it, then yes it does.
As does every license.
That was how I took it. Sarcasm always has a point behind it, you don't have to agree with it.
Of course, in this case the quote comes from a stupid movie.
Sure, it's a stupid quote, but it's a great movie.
You take that back or Keyser Soze might just appear at your door. THEN you'll be sorry.
Or perhaps you were trying to be funny?
Ya think!?
Sherlock Holmes is in awe.
Sherlock Holmes doesn't live on the eastern seaboard. If he did, he wouldn't think your jokes are any funnier than I do.
Nobody's out to get your freedom.
Nobody's arguing that. Heck, even slavers don't enslave people for the sake of taking their freedoms from them. For the slavers, it's about selling the slaves, and for the buyers, it's about the free labor slaves provide. For Apple, it's about their style of lock-in (thus the continued revenue stream).
But you are arguing exactly that, Apple does not want you to be free to use other software. That is a restriction of your freedom, and whether you call it a cause an effect or a side effect, it is what it is.
Do like I did:...
*Three fixes later...*
*installing Ubuntu*
I had a similar experience. The client was my ageing mother.
She still has problems, but a lot less of them, and the computer always works fine.
The greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist -- Verbal Kint
The greatest trick a god ever pulled was convincing the world that he did exist. -- Tsingi. (aka, the devil)
If humanity is to survive, we must pledge to eliminate all carbon dioxide from our atmosphere by 2030
Isn't that going a bit far?
Trees breathe it in, we breathe it out, we aren't going to get rid of ALL of it, nor do we want to.
Or perhaps you were trying to be funny?
i'm glad you didn't post anon so it can be known you're another one of those who thinks that people would agree with you if only they were as smart as you
It's a trivial bit of humour. And since it seems to have been modded up as funny, I'd suggest that there are some people who think it contributes.
OTOH, you did post anonymously. I'm sure you understand that no one gives a flying fsck about insults tossed up by a coward that can't stand up for what he says by signing his posts. In fact, you may have been the reason that it was modded up in the first place.
At the end of the day, he may not have contributed much, but you are an ass.
That is the article, you twit. The data is right there. Why did you only look at the map?
I'll speak real slow.
I did not only look at the map.
My comment was that the image does not stand alone, and it would be nice if it did, it needs the context of the article to make sense. It's a cool image, I like it, fuck off.
The twit comment is completely uncalled for, and you are an extremely rude asshole.
What doesn't seem to be in line is accountability. When was the last time a corporation was executed for murder?
Corporations don't pay for their crimes, we pay for their crimes. And pay and pay and pay ...
I'd like to see BP torn apart for what they have done in the gulf, the same for Wall street. Revoke the charter of these world class criminals, that might have an effect. Fines don't change anything.
I give up on answering them. Suffice to say that if you aren't going to put your name behind your comments, no one should give a shit what you say.
I suspect that most of these AC troll comments are from the same person, they certainly read the same.
It was a little nutty.
Sign your posts 455H013, and sign the other 30 posts too.
He should stay home, then he would not be a hypocrite, and we wouldn't have to listen to him speak.
Bit of a catch 22 there.
Can't blame you for not signing this lame post. It makes no sense whatsoever, and we've all heard it a hundred times.
And now the AC (probably the same one, or one of a few) plays the Nazi card.
Clueless twit.
The It proves nothing, the major polar ice masses are not floating in the water, 90% of them are on land. They are sliding into the water.
STFU or sign your posts so we can point at you and laugh.