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Roku Is the Top Streaming Device In the US and Still Growing, Report Finds (techcrunch.com)

Roku is the top streaming media player device in the U.S., and its growth is only increasing. According to the latest industry report from market intelligence firm Parks Associates, 37 percent of streaming devices in U.S. households are Roku devices, as of the first quarter of this year. That's up from 30 percent in the same quarter last year, the report notes. TechCrunch reports: The growth is coming at the expense of Roku's top competitors, like Apple and Google, with only Amazon's Fire TV able to increase its install base during the same timeframe. Fire TV devices are in 24 percent of U.S. households, as of Q1 2017, up from 16 percent last year. That climb allowed Amazon to snag the second position from Google's Chromecast, which has an 18 percent share. Lagging behind, Apple TV's market share fell to 15 percent -- a drop that Parks Associates Senior Analyst Glenn Hower attributes to Apple TV's price point. Roku last fall overhauled its line of streaming players with the intention of plugging every hole in the market. That strategy is seemingly paying off. There's now a Roku device to meet any consumer's needs -- whether that's an entry-level, portable and affordable "stick," to rival the Fire TV Stick or the Chromecast dongle, or a high-end player with 4K and HDR support, lots of ports, voice search remote, and other premium bells and whistles.

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  1. They should repeat this study by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    I'm sure there's a few months' lag in compiling the data and then processing it. Things have happened since Q1 2017 that make Roku less than useless for many users. I expect this growth spurt to be rather short lived. Before you pile your life savings into the IPO...

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    1. Re:They should repeat this study by crashumbc · · Score: 1

      Care to share these things that happened in Q1 2017?

      I don't own one so I'm generally curious, especially considering the current priate device of choice is the "Fire Stick"

    2. Re:They should repeat this study by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      what besides them giving a warning about private channels potentially infringing copyright regulations?

    3. Re:They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't the nearly ubiquitous Smart TVs pretty much kill the need for Roku for many users? Assuming that it's for Netflix and then Amazon Prime Video a distant second... (Amazon couldn't be sad if their firestick dies either since it's just a means to an end).

    4. Re:They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean pirate stuff.

      Don't be a fucking pussy. Say it.

    5. Re:They should repeat this study by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually Roku has made decent progress there too - my "smart TV" in my bedroom is a Roku TV, as are a decent number of the ones I've seen in stores. The interface actually isn't bad. It's just the regular Roku setup and the other inputs are just selections like the apps. All the TV settings are just integrated into the Roku settings screens.

      Also, FWIW, my downstairs TV is a standard "dumb" TV, and I'm using a Roku stick there too. I used an Amazon Fire TV for quite a while but I had to keep restoring the firmware to default and after a while it wouldn't even work correctly then. The Roku has been much less problematic for me.

      Never used a Chromecast and the last Apple TV I owned was the first gen one so I don't really have opinions on them.

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    6. Re: They should repeat this study by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Roku is much better than any of the smart tvs that I have come across. I did not even setup the smart functions on the tv I bought--I use a roku instead. I find the UI much easier to use on the roku and I trust Roku more than any of the tv manufacturers.

    7. Re:They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be a fucking pussy.

      Says the Anonymous Coward.

      Is it really piracy when you are completely willing to pay for content but can't get it due to region-locking restrictions?

    8. Re:They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure there's a few months' lag in compiling the data and then processing it. Things have happened since Q1 2017 that make Roku less than useless for many users. I expect this growth spurt to be rather short lived. Before you pile your life savings into the IPO...

      Yeah, like Sling TV sending you a free Roku when you sign up. So, probably Roku is even more popular now.
      I already had a Fire Stick, but sure, I'll take a free Roku.

    9. Re: They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't want a free roku. My TV, and my PlayStation already stream Netflix and amazon, and both have yet to ask me for a credit card.

    10. Re: They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing you're the anti-shill...you must have some fancy outfit.

    11. Re:They should repeat this study by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't the nearly ubiquitous Smart TVs pretty much kill the need for Roku for many users? Assuming that it's for Netflix and then Amazon Prime Video a distant second... (Amazon couldn't be sad if their firestick dies either since it's just a means to an end).

      No, it doesn't. I own a Smart TV which isn't as smart as it claims to be. I love its large display capabilities, but the "smart" in it, it ain't that smart (same goes to most, if not all smart TVs.)

      It has an interface that sucks, but you don't want to update its firmware, for it bricks from time to time. That's when I got me a Roku streaming stick (and later a Roku 2 with an Ethernet adapter.)

      Both are convenient and when are on travel, we can take the streaming stick with us to plug it on a TV at a hotel (though good hotel now offer Netflix and Hulu as well.)

      Even if Smart tv manufacturers were to get their shit together and truly deliver smart software in them, I'd rather decouple them. There is a point where embedding makes no sense, with integration being the more advantageous alternative for the consumer.

      If a Smart TV firmware bricks or its wireless adapter go toast, what do you do? Buy a new one? In the meantime a portable streaming device that you can hook to the TV's hdmi port (and preferably with an Ethernet adapter) that costs you a double-figure? That sounds like a more reasonable alternative.

      I'm not buying TVs for their smartness anymore, just its display capabilities.

      I'm not sure what has happened with the latest family of Roku products, but I cannot complain with what I have right now.

    12. Re: They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, stream Netflix and not spy so much.

    13. Re:They should repeat this study by Quirkz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I see Smart TVs as being about the same as the combination printer/scanner/fax systems. It's wedging three separate technologies into one device, and in the process cheapening all of them. Also, when one goes down, they all go down, and then you get absurdities like not being able to fax because you're out of toner.

      My typical streaming device lasts 3-6 years, and the technology is changing rapidly. My typical TV lasts a decade or more, and for the most part I'd rather not try to keep up with expensive features there, and just want a nice screen at a reasonable price. I've avoided smart TVs simply because I figure the streaming part is likely to fail or become obsolete long before the screen does, and I'd like to be able to replace that component independently. If non-smart TVs ever go extinct, I'd still be inclined to leave the TV disconnected, and continue using the streaming device of my choice.

      Besides, most of my dumb TVs can't even do their own tuning and display interfaces right. I've got an RCA that insists on turning itself on every single day, via a timer feature that cannot be disabled. If they're that terrible about simple features, do you really want them putting their hands on proprietary streaming interfaces? I'd rather leave that to the experts.

    14. Re:They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it's still copyright infringement. So, for the common use of the word "piracy"...

    15. Re: They should repeat this study by Thundercat007 · · Score: 1

      Our "smart tv" came with a bunch of pre-installed apps that don't work out of box at all. I mean Netflix works, Hulu not available on my region, Vudu didn't work, Pandora didn't work. Yay Smart tv.

    16. Re:They should repeat this study by ilsaloving · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's because "Smart" TVs are crap. The landscape of video services is changing constantly, so if you buy a TV now, there's an excellent chance that one or more of the features will no longer function several years from now because the manufacturer can't arsed to put out updates once they got your money.

      And that's ignores the several instances of TV manufacturers pulling shady stunts like sending audio or other personal data back to the manufacturer on a regular basis.

      No... A TV should be nothing more than a device that displays pretty pictures and makes noises. Everything else belongs in an inexpensive and easily replaceable/updatable unit.

    17. Re: They should repeat this study by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

      Smart TV could kill Roku if they didn't suck. Samsung makes a good dislay, but their smart TV especially sucks and has a very small lifecycle compared to Roku. My first Samsung smart TV doesn't even support Amazon video anymore, yet my first Roku is still chugging along with it. Shit, even my 2016 model Samsung TV smart features suck.

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    18. Re:They should repeat this study by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      I agree here. Roku is all about streaming. Many TV manufacturers treat the streaming like an afterthought, just another check-off box on the list of features.

      But there are Roku smart TVs, where some major brands embed the Roku as the smarts. Which may be a good idea if you can't find a new dumb TV anymore.

    19. Re:They should repeat this study by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      I love its large display capabilities, but the "smart" in it, it ain't that smart (same goes to most, if not all smart TVs.)

      The problem with smart TVs is software, and it's not going to change.

      A Smart TV only came about because the control chips for TVs inherited the advances made by smartphones. My TV (a 55" Sharp Aquos, before HiSense) features a 166MHz ARM processor on it and actually runs an embedded Linux. Its sole purpose is to do the UI and other parts of the control aspect of the screen. It has the beginnings of "Smart" features though I've never bothered hooking it up to the network to try them. Back before the iPhone days, 166MHz processors were common for ARM, and decent enough.

      These days, using a 165MHz processor for the control part makes no sense - it's not going to be significantly cheaper - the license fees for the low end ARMs may be cheaper, but the marginal cost to pretty much do a custom ASIC eats up any potential savings. Better to just use available off the shelf processors which include a fast ARM code of 1GHz or more off the shelf. Even if you only need a tiny fraction of it.

      So what do you do with the spare processor power? You make it smart. But now your "smart" software is being written by people who don't really have a clue how to do UIs beyond what they normally do, and whose idea of a firmware update updates everything. It's like people who code in the Linux kernel all day are suddenly tasked with doing a UI and apps middleware layer - they're not going to do a great job because the skill set is so different.

      Normally at this point you'd go "so buy a middleware layer and use that" (which is what LG did when they bought WebOS), and what Google does with Android TV, or Roku. But that's time and money as well and you have to learn how to use the middleware layer. So you just annoy the existing devs who think UI is easy.

    20. Re: They should repeat this study by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Some TV manufacturers partner with Roku now. For those people who insist on having the streaming built in I suppose. or if you can't find a dumb TV anymore and any new TV is going to be a smart TV you may as well buy one that's actually smart.

      Even the Roku TVs have the drawback that you're stuck with the original model for the life of the TV. You can get a new Roku of course, and ignore the one in your TV, just like many people get a streaming device and ignore the TV's smarts.

    21. Re: They should repeat this study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll answer for him. It's a smart device attached to your home network: I trust Roku to regularly update their software and not turn my TV into an Orwellian nightmare surveillance device or brick my TV through incompetence or malice, unlike Samsung, for example.

  2. Surprising by Presence+Eternal · · Score: 2

    Rokus are fine, and it's great they are provider agnostic, but how is this possible? They compete directly with the primary methods people use to research and buy these devices, and I've not observed any exciting capability or pricing to them. I own three, but that's simply because they're not google, apple, or amazon.

    1. Re:Surprising by bobbied · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I own four, but use only one right now..

      Roku is basically in the "it works" category for nearly all the service providers I know of and care to use. I've only had one fail, but it took a lighting hit that took the rest of my AV equipment to make it happen. That is why I believe they are top of the heap.

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    2. Re:Surprising by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      They've established a brand by starting in the market early (most people do recognize the name Roku), and they're priced pretty competitively. The cheapest one is $30 and though it lacks a few features of the more expensive models it's still a perfectly functional device.

      Granted, there's not much actual differentiation in function between the different manufacturer's here so I'd consider any company's lead being "fragile", but still - I don't see any reason why Roku wouldn't be doing well.

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    3. Re: Surprising by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Most people?

      I'm not sure that's true. It seems unlikely, actually. I'm not sure that anyone I regularly speak with, in meatspace, knows what one is. I know, but I'm a geek.

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    4. Re: Surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More slashvertisements carpet bombed with pre-written positive comments will MAKE IT TRUE!

      -Roku

    5. Re: Surprising by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure "most people" know what streaming is, other than what is done in the bathroom.

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    6. Re: Surprising by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I first heard about them on a financial forum, where people were talking about what to do if they cut cable. Those were definitely not technical people on the whole, though the "let's talk budget" crowd is probably a bit of a niche, too.

    7. Re: Surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have huge displays in Target, and Walmart. Shoot when I bought my most recent roku half the display was gone. I had the dubious pleasure of shopping in a Walmart in the middle of nowhere Missouri last month and they had displays for them there as well. If they sell them to country bumpkins then yes they know about them.

      Maybe the people you know in "meatspace" don't talk to you because you're a condescending prick?

    8. Re: Surprising by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I am indeed a condescending prick. Though you point to a different thought process. The vast majority of people I spend time with don't actually go to either of those two stores. (See, I told you that you were correct about my being a prick.)

      However, they don't go 'cause those stores are quite a long ways away.

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    9. Re:Surprising by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      They're in the stores. Ie, at Target when you look at the TV models, the Rokus are in boxes on the shelf below or to the side. And in larger numbers than the Apple or Amazon boxes. Amazon probably had the marketing advantage if you bought TVs online so that you always saw its recommendations, but not so much if you were buying from a brick and mortar store. Apple and Google don't seem to be marketing their devices much.

      Also when I did my research on this (which automatically means I'm not a typical consumer) the Roku was agnostic. At the time the big selling point of Apple TV was the integration with itunes and being able to use your existing purchases, but Apple had let this product languish for quite some time. Amazon was pushing its own streaming service. The ChromeCast was nice, but far too limited without a real remote control or on-screen browsing, it's a very different model of streaming since it relies upon your phone or tablet.

      Roku also had the nice feature of being able to search across apps to see who offered a particular movie and what the price was. Roku also has a larger range of products than the competition.

    10. Re: Surprising by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I suspect (hope?) most people shop at stores in "meatspace", where Amazon doesn't have a big advantage. I mean who goes to Walmart to buy a TV and then decides "hey, when I get this home I need to remember to search Amazon for a streaming device"? No, they're going to buy what's on the shelves.

    11. Re: Surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that leaves two possibilites.

      Either you live out in the middle of nowhere. Thereby your anecdotal evidence is worthless because they (as in the people you talk to in meatspace) probably don't even have high speed internet. Or you live somewhere that is populated but neither of those stores serve your area, in which case please feel free to substitute whatever your local general merchandise store in place of Target or Walmart.

      To be honest though I find it hard to believe you live anywhere at least in North America that has the high speed internet needed for streaming that does not have a store selling Rokus close to you. I mean they have a Walmart in Fairbanks Alaska for crying out loud.

      Either way it ignores my point that if the folks in middle of nowhere (as in 75 miles from a big city) Missouri are buying streaming devices then they are not as uncommon as your position states.

    12. Re: Surprising by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I have fairly decent DSL, as do many of my local peers. I'm outside of Rangeley, Maine - if you want to see how far I am from either of those two stores.

      I don't think there's even a local place to get such a device.

      My question is about the "most." That seems really unlikely. I've never seen them on display - though I know my daughter owns one. (She lives elsewhere. She asked me which device she should get, I recommended the Roku over the Fire.) She's not very typical, either. She's fairly well paid, educated, and a bit of a geek.

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  3. Re:Impeachment is the top governing device by bobbied · · Score: 1

    For the Roku? No time soon....

    Other uses of impeachment are in the same boat...

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  4. "Plug Every Hole" Indeed by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Roku doesn't have a competitive content business themselves (even though they want to), which means that (so far) it's in their best interest to work hard to make sure their platform works with everyone.

    1. Re:"Plug Every Hole" Indeed by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Roku not having a competitive content business is by design. Roku was originally created within Netflix and then spun out because Netflix wanted to be able to make deals with other hardware providers without it seeming like they were competing against them.

  5. Ubquitous device by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    What TFA does not say is how many households have no streaming device.

    1. Re:Ubquitous device by BlueStrat · · Score: 0

      What TFA does not say is how many households have no streaming device.

      Indeed. I don't watch TV shows and only very occasionally watch a movie that's many years old, on my computer. Don't own a "TV". Between the exceedingly poor quality of current movies and TV series and the behavior of the media cartels regarding their abuse of copyright, screw 'em! I won't give them money *or* eyeballs.

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    2. Re:Ubquitous device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey grandpa! TV now is better than it's ever been, there's no way a person could possibly keep up with every good show.

      If you don't watch TV, fine. If you don't eat at Taco Bell, don't tell us whether Enchiritos are delicious or no.

    3. Re:Ubquitous device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That, I say, that boy is about as sharp as a bowling ball, and twice as dense!

    4. Re:Ubquitous device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Likely due to it being irrelevant.

    5. Re:Ubquitous device by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Likely due to it being irrelevant.

      That is likely to be the case, but numbers would be nice to back that insight.

  6. AirPlay alternative for Roku? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    One of the things I like most about having a (3rd gen) Apple TV is AirPlay. But one of the things I don't like about the device is having to use iTunes to stream my ripped movies and TV shows to it.

    Does Roku have a similar (and solid) feature that works with various computers, tablets, etc.?

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    1. Re:AirPlay alternative for Roku? by neovoxx · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I'm not familiar with airplay, Plex makes for a great and free media server/streamer that has apps on just about every ecosystem including Roku.

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    2. Re:AirPlay alternative for Roku? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Roku + Plex is about as good as it gets. I haven't tried Apple TV but I have some Chromecasts that lie around unused.

    3. Re:AirPlay alternative for Roku? by Drakonblayde · · Score: 2

      The Roku app has their equivalent of AirPlay (Play on Roku) where you can stream content stored on your device directly to the Roku

    4. Re:AirPlay alternative for Roku? by Albanach · · Score: 1

      I have some Chromecasts that lie around unused.

      Ebay them. They sell for almost retail.

      Personally, I love my Chromecasts and can't think why I'd want a Roku instead? Is it just for Amazon Prime, because they refuse to cooperate with (or even sell) Chromecasts?

  7. Recent changes to fire TV are terrible. by cutefatbird · · Score: 1

    I used to love Fire TV and use it almost exclusively but the changes they made to the UI, (Homepage and search category's.) are really terrible so I may look to moving to Roku player. (Even the voice search is fubar after 'Alexa' updates.) Basically after recent changes Fire TV is now constantly trying to sell u content even if you try to search in free Amazon Prime only content. (They have actually made it difficult to search for your free Prime media and your purchased library only. The changes to the homepage and search categories are really terrible so I may look to moving to Roku as well.

  8. Oh little Roku how I love thee, and also my sister by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I love my little Roku 3. I wish it were legal to marry it, or my sister. Either one.

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  9. But Roku are motherfuckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't they want to restrict your ability to watch what you want on the device you bought? I hear they are deactivating channels they don't like. So this Slashvertizement well backfire, no doubt.

    1. Re: But Roku are motherfuckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brought to you by microsofts newest streaming box. Streaming piles of shit faster than a speeding bullet

  10. It's all about the interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My parents are now in their 80s, and they used half a dozen different DVRs (including three different models from Comcast that were just dreadful) before I finally gave-up and bought them a TiVo. They actually used it unlike the others.

    I connected an old Mac Mini to their TV, and they never used it even though I had it sync to my collection of hundreds of movies and TV shows. Same with Chromecast, their Samsung "smart" TV, Amazon Fire, and Apple TV. I gave them my old Roku, and they love it. They use it nearly every day.

    Aside: I'm in my mid-fifties and so are most of my friends. In my opinion, they're overwhelmed by choices of what to watch, and Netflix's recent change to hide real ratings has really made them angry. I recently heard that The Expanse was going to be available to watch on Netflix so I asked my coworkers and friends, and not a one of them still has Netflix. They've really hurt themselves with their rating fiasco.

    1. Re:It's all about the interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Expanse is coming to Netflix on Sept 8th, on my birthday! I haven't taken a single day off of work in nearly five years since I manage production systemsd, but dammit I'm not working that day!

  11. But if you are outside the USA... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    Roku support is utterly terrible.

    NVidia shield TV is the way to go. NVidia somehow manage to deliver enterprise grade support to consumers including things like RMA forward replacements.

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    1. Re:But if you are outside the USA... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      For twice the cost of Roku.

    2. Re:But if you are outside the USA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait... Roku has support? Why?

      You plug it in... it just works. It's like a light bulb -you shouldn't need "support" for it.

    3. Re:But if you are outside the USA... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Wait... Roku has support? Why?

      You plug it in... it just works. It's like a light bulb -you shouldn't need "support" for it.

      I had a Roku controller stop working. Roku won't send replacement controllers outside the USA. Getting replacement controllers from 3rd parties is a LOT more expensive than directly from Roku.

      Also, unrelated to support, over the years this Roku has gotten more and more laggy and slow, often doesn't respond to the controller for a few clicks, etc.

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  12. They should repeat this torrent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once again the mantra that piracy hurts no one will be proven false when private channels disappear.

  13. Reason? by dicobalt · · Score: 0

    I'd bet people are hesitant to pay into the Goolag due to YouTube shenanigans.

    1. Re:Reason? by hackel · · Score: 1

      I bet most people don't have a clue what you're talking about. YouTube shenanigans? What? I definitely don't consume most of my content from YouTube, and generally ignore anything that happens there.

  14. Really? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, I bought one once thinking it would be easy and simple and useful.

    After I got repeated errors in just trying to set the damned thing up, I unplugged it, put it back in the box, and bought the Apple TV I should have bought in the first place.

    At the time I was thinking "Jesus, if I can't set this fucker up no way non technical people will have a chance".

    I never got to see it do anything, I just got stalled at like step 2 of the setup and said "fuck it, this isn't worth my time" and doesn't deserve my money.

    Sure, I might be an idiot .. but after 25 years in the industry, if I bought it at Best Buy and can't get through the setup process, then I have to conclude the product just isn't ready for use by your average consumer. Just some dumb ass cryptic error I had no idea what it meant or what to do.

    My Apple TV? It worked right the first time, and has done so ever since. Roku felt like an unpolished turd.

    1. Re: Really? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rokus are total garbage. And roku TVs are fucking laughable.

      What kind of retard buys a TV with a 3 button remote that refuses to work without a credit card number?

      Fuck this bullshit ad, fuck roku, and fuck you.

  15. Can't say I'm surprised.... by Drakonblayde · · Score: 2

    I'm up to three of them in the house now, and I wouldn't be surprised if another 2 or 3 got added in the next couple of years as the kids get older and want their own TV's in their rooms.

    For my family, it aggregates the platforms we use to consume media (Plex for local, Netflix and Amazon Prime for non-local) into a single device that's simple to use and just works.

    And after I figured out how much data they were sending back and Pi-Holed their telemetry domains, all was right with the world.

    1. Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... by hackel · · Score: 1

      If you have to pi-hole their domains in the first place, that is unacceptable.

      Also, you have 3 TVs and the kids don't even have their own yet? WTF?

  16. Re:Impeachment is the top governing device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One need not vote for Hillary to see Trump impeached.

  17. Re:Really? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given you decided on an apple TV i agree; you might be an idiot.

  18. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I only vaguely know that that is.

    I've been administering my own slackware boxes since 1996.

    1. Re:lol by Wootery · · Score: 1

      Would you like me to clap like a seal?

  19. Don't you need a CC by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    and have to register the "hardware" before you can use it? That's why I never got one...

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    1. Re:Don't you need a CC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Register yes, but you can work around the CC requirement with a roku representative. I did a couple of years ago.

    2. Re:Don't you need a CC by DynamicBits · · Score: 1

      You don't need a credit card, but I do believe the Roku account is required. To register without a credit card, use the following URL: https://my.roku.com/signup/nocc

  20. what about tablets, laptops, htpcs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously if you take out all the streaming decices you will be left with something like roku, yes.

  21. It's worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I started out using a Apple TV, but quickly realized Roku offered a better deal. I mostly use Netflix and Amazon video and find Roku a affordable streaming device. I suppose if your all in on Google Play the Chromecast option is better. Anything but Apple TV which is completely over priced for what it delivers.

  22. The SDK is simple, open-ish, powerful by netsavior · · Score: 2

    I have played with the SDK which is simple and straightforward, in a few hours I wrote a "channel" that streams menus and content from my own server. My 3 year-old can use the menus. .

    The roku also accepts rest calls for pretty much all the remote control functions, and you can add "launch parameters" to your custom channels, effectively allowing you to add arbitrary rest calls.

    So basically I have a local picture menu that you can run from a browser to launch movies on any of my TVs, using fully supported and easy to understand roku APIs.

    This makes it basically the only viable choice for my household

  23. Poor in the UK by simpz · · Score: 1

    Maybe because Murdoch's Sky have a stake in Roku and use a re-branded Roku for their NowTV box they sell. But they haven't yet launched the Roku 4 in the UK and don't really push their boxes.

    So if you want 4K look elsewhere....

    Firesticks and Chromecasts seem a lot more common.

  24. Re: Really? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, the old "Roku requires a credit card" myth again.

  25. Re:Really? How? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    Really? My wife got ours set up in just a few minutes. I think we spent more time trying to remember our Netflix password than doing any other part of the setup. It's basically:

    1) plug connectors to TV
    2) connect Roku to wifi (or physical cable)
    3) enter account details into the channels (like Netflix, Amazon) that you subscribe to.

    I don't remember there being anything else to it.

  26. Myth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then why did the Roku I bought yesterday ask for my credit card on startup?

    1. Re:Myth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the AC that has never bought a roku?

      Mine didn't.

    2. Re:Myth? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Mine did. But it may have been optional, I don't remember now. I just entered the CC number thinking I might want a pay per view movie someday, but so far I haven't bought anything.

  27. Re: Really? How? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised at the number of AC comments posting venomous bile about a mere device, but the inaccuracy of this post is laughable. I don't even know what "three-button remote" you're objecting to, but my Roku remote has something like a dozen buttons, covering all the normal features you'd expect. It's a far sight more intuitive than the PS3 controller is for streaming, for sure.

  28. I wish they'd go back. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a Roku 3, loved it, then got another.

    The remote had changed... four buttons for services (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) which I could ignore, but they changed the "rewind 7 seconds" button* with a "voice search button that pulls you out of whatever it is you are doing and doesn't provide an undo method. Not a fan. Also, they moved the fabric Roku "flag" from the side where it was easy to remove to the bottom where it pokes my palm.

    * Rewind seven seconds, the feature I never thought I'd use, but dang if it isn't handy. Especially since the PBS channel has an option for CC on replay. "What did he just say?" push button, he repeats it with closed captioning. It was a great feature, though I wish Netflix (Youtube?) would include the CC on replay feature.

  29. Re:Really? How? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    For some oddball reason, my Spectrum-Warner remote, which did everything else, didn't want to switch to HDMI 2. And, since I got my Roku soon after a move, I had a hellova time finding the original TV remote, which did work.

    The Roku itself seemed straightforward, but maybe a Joe Sixpack or Aunt Tilly would disagree.

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    Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
  30. Roku was the worst tech experience of my life by el_smurfo · · Score: 1

    I bought a Roku Ultra to be able to watch both Amazon and Google content on one device. Even though it was months after release, the apps still had audio sync issues making the services unwatchable. The forums were filled with complaints and I posted logs and questions which were ignored. Literally the only reply I ever received from a Roku forum moderator was a complaint that my post was off topic for the thread (I was posting in an active thread as most others were ignored). Ditched Roku that day and would never buy such a poor quality product from an unresponsive tech company like Roku again.

  31. Re: Really? How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. Or the piece of shit apple remote. LOL

  32. My needs by hackel · · Score: 1

    "There's now a Roku device to meet any consumer's needs."

    Oh really? There's a Roku that can run Kodi and other Android applications? That's great! And it supports casting from a phone as well? Perfect! I've been waiting for Roku to catchup. Even better is that it's an open-source operating system.

    Oh. Wait. Roku is still proprietary garbage, that's right. What a terrible article.

  33. Re:Really? How? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Hmm, I plug it into HDMI port, plug it into power, and then... it worked.
    Yes, you put in a credit card number. This is for on demand purchases only, just remember to never use it. If you're paranoid then use a pre-paid $10 card then have it expire.
    For Apple TV, don't you need to have an Apple account? I thought it was heavilly iTunes based?