Newton's Theory of Gravity is F=Gm1m2/r^2. Easily disprovable, and has been by Einstein's GR. BTW, you wrote 3 screenfuls and said nothing useful - this is why philosophy gets a bad name, long arguements that say it's impossible to get off the earth because the energy required is infinite because W = Int(F), and the force curve is always positive, then Newton comes along with calculus.
The IDers arguement against evolution because it's highly improbably (1 out of 10^500000000 chance) is utter crap. It ignores the fact that a human being doesn't need to spring full formed from the primordeal soup, all that needs to be done is have very simple organisms, reproduction, and mutation, and evolution happens. The fact that CS has in the past 20 years discovered and made many uses of evolutionary algorithms to do complex things, sometimes doing things that we don't know how to write algorithms for, is even more evidence against ID and for evolutionary theory.
How are cancer and heart attacks not natural? Do you expect people to live to be 1000 and die because their cells have stopped being able to divide? What exactly is an "unnatural food"? Does it become "unnatural" because "chemicals" were added to it? Have you any idea how many chemicals are all around you - why you've probably got tons of them in your system!
When you lay off the fear of "chemicals" and actually get eductated, maybe people won't regard you as an idiot spouting off about stuff they know jack about.
Hey man, I don't eat any chemicals, that shit'll fuck you up. I grow my own vegetables and soybeans, don't eat meat, and only smoke all natural pot. Eating all natural is the only way to stay healthy, since nature never provides anything harmful.
Never made jerky eh? Sugar is a pretty common ingredient, google beef jerky recipes.
Judging by the rest of your comment, esp re: apples, you need to get over the teenage rebellion again "they" and "the man". "They" are the ones who love dopes like you because they own organic food stores charging you $10 for $2 of food.
Clearly, someone has not had the experience of snorting fine Bolivian cocaine off underage hooker's asses. Plus, "Caffeine's a helluva a drug" just doesn't sound cool.
Pull your head out of your ass and realize that if someone presents a different opinion, they're not automatically a Fox-drone.
The colonists sure owe the trappers for educating them about the terrain and conditions of say, Baltimore or Yorktown. After all, the colonists only lived there so needed help for these genius woodsmen. Use some thought, the Revolutionary War wasn't fought in Ohio or Michigan, it was fought in the colonies, where people lived. Also use facts, like the French fleet were important to Washington's winning the Battle or Yorktown.
I'm still waiting for you to refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach." The only thing you've shown me is you have the writing skills and reading comprehension of a gradeschooler.
>(where) *when* no links *were posted*(hadn't even been sent by anyone.)
An attempt at an insult from someone that writes at a 1st grade level. Charming.
And where exactly do you refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach."? From someone who actually uses them on a regular basis, as opposed to wiki.
I'm American, so you'll have to help me out a bit. I found this table that gives results for private philanthropy as %of GDP. I believe the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, France, the UK, Finland, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, and Poland are all part of Europe, and only the first 5 give more percentagewise than the US. Furthermore, the Netherlands is #1, yet its GDP is 481.1 billion, compared to America's 11.75 trillion. Make what you want about giving 4.49% vs 2.47%, but you can't argue that 21.6 billion helps those in need more than 290 billion.
Your analysis of govt is also wrong. Vocal minorities with lobbiests have a very disproportionate impact on govt policy, witness the **AA, or more positively, the 60s civil rights movement. Furthermore, someone who donates privately *chooses* to do that, whereas someone whose donatation was "given" in the form of taxes was compelled by force to do that. Which is more charitable?
Do be a good chap and stop hating America for your delusions. Hate us for being the lone economic superpower who doesn't care to listen to a continent that has only withen the past 50 years stopped waging near-constant wars with each other.
Gee, wiki and dictionary.com vs a medical optics company, I wonder which is a better source of information? And where exactly do your links refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach."
Wow! You can parrot a statistics phrase! If you'd bothered to think, you'd realize that anti-correlation =* not-causation, so the increase in violent videogames is not a cause of youth violence, as the hypothesis "violent videogames cause violent youth", has been shown to be without merit.
*Violent videogames may indeed cause violent youth, and some unknown factor is preventing all these violent youth from causing violence - however, this is about as sensible as believing this
Yeah, but those aussies got even by genetically engineering a koala that reproduces asexually and having it stow aboard the return flight. Damn clever criminals.
>I never said faith was better. Contradicted by this in your original post, "My faith does not need to subject itself to new "understandings" of science. The possibility of findings being discovered as faulty is pretty good.", implying science is greatly flawed and therefore faith is superior.
>But since there's a great war in science pitting theists against atheists. There is not religious war in science, the only "war" is against dumbasses, who happen to be mostly evangelical christian creationists, instead of people trying to invent perpetual motion.
>If you feel the need to evangelize to me... - evangelize
1 : to preach the gospel to
2 : to convert to Christianity
>appriciate ->appreciate.
>But I would appriciate it if you would be objective... And the next sentance is some petty attempt at my intelligence, from someone who probably doesn't know what QFT even stands for, much less what it's used for.
>...many variables are obscure or hidden or confusing. A lot of programming languages contain obscure or confusing statements if you aren't familier with them, just like the gravitationl constant's units of m3 kg-1 s-2 are illogical by "common sense". As for hidden variables, are you talking about about what science hasn't discovered, or saying these hidden variables can't be discovered by science?
Re:relativity. SR deals with objects traveling >.1c, GR deals with gravitation. QFT is the current description of the weak force which governs radioactive decay. GPS satilites signals need to be corrected by GR.
>You haven't argued any of the points I made in the analogy... Back those "points" up with some evidence that you know what you're talking about and I will.
This post is evidence that your information is wrong, hence blatent falsehoods etc.
Care to actually provide something of substance instead of ignorance and attempts at flames?
Shooting holes though your poorly thought our rhetoric with you have massive emotional investment in is not flaming. - from somebody's sig.
Ah, the old, "faith is better than science because faith doesn't change". You have missed the entire point of science, the use of empirical evidence to decide which theories are valid, and which are not. I do not have faith in science, any more than I have faith that if I go to the supermarket I can buy a 24 pack of 12oz aluminum cans of coke. Your evolution analogy is flawed - if you want to play the game of science, you have to provide evidence. It's the lack of said evidence, that has caused creationism to be dismissed as worthless.
Science does not operate like mathematics. A mathematical theorem is proven, a scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been experimentally verified. Science works fine when current theories are "faulty", it means that something was missed and then people go try to update the theory. If relativity was "proven wrong", the only thing that's likely to affect you is your GPS doesn't work because it's correcting for relativity, which doesn't exist anymore.
Based on your analogy of science and programming, you've gotten your knowledge from a very inaccurate and biased source. A correct analogy would have science as some massive open source project, with anyone the current participants deem worth it having their work looked at, and if it's good then integrating it, and removing old cruft. Do be a good chap and learn about things before you spout you mouth off to "defend your faith", your flawed analogies and blatent falsehoods give all religious people a bad name. Oh, re: "Science is not a horse to bet on" - are you from the 21st century, typing this on a computer, or did someone transcribe your clay tablets sent by messenger slaves.
Since Microsoft has told developers not to rely on the HDD being there, it's clear that they aren't insincere about selling the $299 version, any more than Honda is insincere about selling a Civic versus a Accord. Take a deep breath and don't let the anti-MS paranoia get to you so much.
I assure you that I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass; I had to endure psychiatrists and paxil, risperdal, zolaft, and prozac from 12-17, and as a result I had a very foggy memory of that time, as well as some other problems.
Your description of depression, and the justification for drugs, sounds exactly like what some psychiatrist would say to explain it, as well as the false analogy of diabetes being comparable to "mental illness".
By your own words, "wishing away a mental illness", youv'e already taken the view that you're powerless to change your mind by thought, and must revert to drugs. Religion and yoga were suggested because they require less sheer willpower than simply thinking positively by providing an aid. Go get yourself involuntarily admitted to the psych ward of a local hospital, and see how much help the psychiatrist gives you in listening to you. I guarantee it'll jack squat.
Really? Where did I demonstrate that I was a stupid heartless bastard? You, on the other hand, have an even more narrow polarized viewpoint than a typical neo-con; someone who doesn't agree with you in exactly the right was is labeled as "a stupid heartless bastard". You might get people to believe that you're as compassionate as you say if you weren't a hypocrite, and so insecure that you try to insult others who don't subscribe to the nonsense of trying to legislate everything away.
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Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. *puff*
Newton's Theory of Gravity is F=Gm1m2/r^2. Easily disprovable, and has been by Einstein's GR. BTW, you wrote 3 screenfuls and said nothing useful - this is why philosophy gets a bad name, long arguements that say it's impossible to get off the earth because the energy required is infinite because W = Int(F), and the force curve is always positive, then Newton comes along with calculus.
The IDers arguement against evolution because it's highly improbably (1 out of 10^500000000 chance) is utter crap. It ignores the fact that a human being doesn't need to spring full formed from the primordeal soup, all that needs to be done is have very simple organisms, reproduction, and mutation, and evolution happens. The fact that CS has in the past 20 years discovered and made many uses of evolutionary algorithms to do complex things, sometimes doing things that we don't know how to write algorithms for, is even more evidence against ID and for evolutionary theory.
How are cancer and heart attacks not natural? Do you expect people to live to be 1000 and die because their cells have stopped being able to divide? What exactly is an "unnatural food"? Does it become "unnatural" because "chemicals" were added to it? Have you any idea how many chemicals are all around you - why you've probably got tons of them in your system!
When you lay off the fear of "chemicals" and actually get eductated, maybe people won't regard you as an idiot spouting off about stuff they know jack about.
Hey man, I don't eat any chemicals, that shit'll fuck you up. I grow my own vegetables and soybeans, don't eat meat, and only smoke all natural pot. Eating all natural is the only way to stay healthy, since nature never provides anything harmful.
>even beef-jerky has fricking sugar in it!
Never made jerky eh? Sugar is a pretty common ingredient, google beef jerky recipes.
Judging by the rest of your comment, esp re: apples, you need to get over the teenage rebellion again "they" and "the man". "They" are the ones who love dopes like you because they own organic food stores charging you $10 for $2 of food.
Clearly, someone has not had the experience of snorting fine Bolivian cocaine off underage hooker's asses. Plus, "Caffeine's a helluva a drug" just doesn't sound cool.
>does the ice cap really reflect that much energy?
.1-5 degrees, someone with a thermo book can provide a better answer, and this doesn't include the increase caused by the greenhouse gases water and co2.
51% sun's energy absorbed, 4% reflected, the rest interacts with the atmosphere.
Snow and ice can reflect between 80-90% of incident solar energy.
So it seems that melting all the ice on earth cannot have more than a 4% increase in absorpation, and the corresponding rise of
"The French are the connecting link between man and the monkey." -Mark Twain 1879
Pull your head out of your ass and realize that if someone presents a different opinion, they're not automatically a Fox-drone.
The colonists sure owe the trappers for educating them about the terrain and conditions of say, Baltimore or Yorktown. After all, the colonists only lived there so needed help for these genius woodsmen. Use some thought, the Revolutionary War wasn't fought in Ohio or Michigan, it was fought in the colonies, where people lived. Also use facts, like the French fleet were important to Washington's winning the Battle or Yorktown.
Our Oldest Enemy : A History of America's Disastrous Relationship with France
There are some sneers money can buy. For everything else, there's slashdot.
I'm still waiting for you to refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach." The only thing you've shown me is you have the writing skills and reading comprehension of a gradeschooler.
>(where) *when* no links *were posted*(hadn't even been sent by anyone.)
An attempt at an insult from someone that writes at a 1st grade level. Charming.
And where exactly do you refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach."? From someone who actually uses them on a regular basis, as opposed to wiki.
Do YOU know how to read? If they say the same, why post a "correction"?
I'm American, so you'll have to help me out a bit. I found this table that gives results for private philanthropy as %of GDP. I believe the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, France, the UK, Finland, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, and Poland are all part of Europe, and only the first 5 give more percentagewise than the US. Furthermore, the Netherlands is #1, yet its GDP is 481.1 billion, compared to America's 11.75 trillion. Make what you want about giving 4.49% vs 2.47%, but you can't argue that 21.6 billion helps those in need more than 290 billion.
Your analysis of govt is also wrong. Vocal minorities with lobbiests have a very disproportionate impact on govt policy, witness the **AA, or more positively, the 60s civil rights movement. Furthermore, someone who donates privately *chooses* to do that, whereas someone whose donatation was "given" in the form of taxes was compelled by force to do that. Which is more charitable?
Do be a good chap and stop hating America for your delusions. Hate us for being the lone economic superpower who doesn't care to listen to a continent that has only withen the past 50 years stopped waging near-constant wars with each other.
Gee, wiki and dictionary.com vs a medical optics company, I wonder which is a better source of information? And where exactly do your links refute "Technically, that's what a colonoscope is for. The endoscope is more commonly used to look into the stomach."
Wow! You can parrot a statistics phrase! If you'd bothered to think, you'd realize that anti-correlation =* not-causation, so the increase in violent videogames is not a cause of youth violence, as the hypothesis "violent videogames cause violent youth", has been shown to be without merit.
*Violent videogames may indeed cause violent youth, and some unknown factor is preventing all these violent youth from causing violence - however, this is about as sensible as believing this
However, relations with Eurasia have ground to a halt due to the assasination of Oceania's ambassador.
Yeah, but those aussies got even by genetically engineering a koala that reproduces asexually and having it stow aboard the return flight. Damn clever criminals.
>I never said faith was better.
.1c, GR deals with gravitation. QFT is the current description of the weak force which governs radioactive decay. GPS satilites signals need to be corrected by GR.
Contradicted by this in your original post, "My faith does not need to subject itself to new "understandings" of science. The possibility of findings being discovered as faulty is pretty good.", implying science is greatly flawed and therefore faith is superior.
>But since there's a great war in science pitting theists against atheists.
There is not religious war in science, the only "war" is against dumbasses, who happen to be mostly evangelical christian creationists, instead of people trying to invent perpetual motion.
>If you feel the need to evangelize to me... - evangelize
1 : to preach the gospel to
2 : to convert to Christianity
>appriciate ->appreciate.
>But I would appriciate it if you would be objective...
And the next sentance is some petty attempt at my intelligence, from someone who probably doesn't know what QFT even stands for, much less what it's used for.
>...many variables are obscure or hidden or confusing.
A lot of programming languages contain obscure or confusing statements if you aren't familier with them, just like the gravitationl constant's units of m3 kg-1 s-2 are illogical by "common sense". As for hidden variables, are you talking about about what science hasn't discovered, or saying these hidden variables can't be discovered by science?
Re:relativity. SR deals with objects traveling >
>You haven't argued any of the points I made in the analogy...
Back those "points" up with some evidence that you know what you're talking about and I will.
As you persist on painting science as some hodgepoge group with your flawed analogies, here's a defn "Science is a procedure for converting observations into "understanding", or more precisely into general rules about what will be observed given certain conditions." There are dissenting voices, like a professor of geology that believes the grand canyon was created in a few days and the earth is 6000 years old, and scientists have fought hard to keep science from being perverted by including beliefs like that from being called science.
This post is evidence that your information is wrong, hence blatent falsehoods etc. Care to actually provide something of substance instead of ignorance and attempts at flames?
Shooting holes though your poorly thought our rhetoric with you have massive emotional investment in is not flaming. - from somebody's sig.
Jamaica Literacy: definition: age 15 and over has ever attended school total population: 87.9% male: 84.1% female: 91.6% (2003 est.)
US Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write total population: 97% male: 97% female: 97% (1999 est.)
Let me guess, you're a product of the great Jamaican school system?
Ah, the old, "faith is better than science because faith doesn't change". You have missed the entire point of science, the use of empirical evidence to decide which theories are valid, and which are not. I do not have faith in science, any more than I have faith that if I go to the supermarket I can buy a 24 pack of 12oz aluminum cans of coke. Your evolution analogy is flawed - if you want to play the game of science, you have to provide evidence. It's the lack of said evidence, that has caused creationism to be dismissed as worthless.
Science does not operate like mathematics. A mathematical theorem is proven, a scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been experimentally verified. Science works fine when current theories are "faulty", it means that something was missed and then people go try to update the theory. If relativity was "proven wrong", the only thing that's likely to affect you is your GPS doesn't work because it's correcting for relativity, which doesn't exist anymore.
Based on your analogy of science and programming, you've gotten your knowledge from a very inaccurate and biased source. A correct analogy would have science as some massive open source project, with anyone the current participants deem worth it having their work looked at, and if it's good then integrating it, and removing old cruft. Do be a good chap and learn about things before you spout you mouth off to "defend your faith", your flawed analogies and blatent falsehoods give all religious people a bad name. Oh, re: "Science is not a horse to bet on" - are you from the 21st century, typing this on a computer, or did someone transcribe your clay tablets sent by messenger slaves.
Sec. 238.0 Bait advertising defined.1 Bait advertising is an alluring but insincere offer to sell a product or service which the advertiser in truth does not intend or want to sell. Its purpose is to switch consumers from buying the advertised merchandise, in order to sell something else, usually at a higher price or on a basis more advantageous to the advertiser. The primary aim of a bait advertisement is to obtain leads as to persons interested in buying merchandise of the type so advertised.
Since Microsoft has told developers not to rely on the HDD being there, it's clear that they aren't insincere about selling the $299 version, any more than Honda is insincere about selling a Civic versus a Accord. Take a deep breath and don't let the anti-MS paranoia get to you so much.
I assure you that I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass; I had to endure psychiatrists and paxil, risperdal, zolaft, and prozac from 12-17, and as a result I had a very foggy memory of that time, as well as some other problems.
Your description of depression, and the justification for drugs, sounds exactly like what some psychiatrist would say to explain it, as well as the false analogy of diabetes being comparable to "mental illness".
By your own words, "wishing away a mental illness", youv'e already taken the view that you're powerless to change your mind by thought, and must revert to drugs. Religion and yoga were suggested because they require less sheer willpower than simply thinking positively by providing an aid. Go get yourself involuntarily admitted to the psych ward of a local hospital, and see how much help the psychiatrist gives you in listening to you. I guarantee it'll jack squat.
Really? Where did I demonstrate that I was a stupid heartless bastard? You, on the other hand, have an even more narrow polarized viewpoint than a typical neo-con; someone who doesn't agree with you in exactly the right was is labeled as "a stupid heartless bastard". You might get people to believe that you're as compassionate as you say if you weren't a hypocrite, and so insecure that you try to insult others who don't subscribe to the nonsense of trying to legislate everything away.
Since you apparently lack the reading comprehension skills to have noticed this the first time around, Several recent papers show that allergies may be caused by lack of work for your immune system. When a germ gets into your blood stream, you make proteins called antibodies that attach to and kill that germ. If you have few infections early in life, your antibodies look for something to attack, even if it is not an invading germ: It may attack dust mites or cat dander or ragweed pollen. However, before you try to give your young child an infection, realize that this is just a theory, has not been proved yet, and may be wrong. In addition, your "cleaner and cleaner approach"'s fear of all germs is exactly the reason behind the growing problem of drug resistance. So yes, it works, but I doubt that creating drug resitance was your original goal.